What Are Metal Shingles? Finishes, Price Range, Longevity, Warranties
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- What are metal shingles and how do they compare to other roofing types?
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Today on The Metal Roofing Channel, we kick off our series about metal shingles with Todd Miller, President of Isaiah Industries. Thad and Todd discuss the benefits of metal shingles, the wide variety of styles and finishes, materials, durability and longevity, cost, warranties, and more. Make sure to subscribe for next week's video on how metal shingles are made!
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I am replacing one of these with a standing seam. The reason being the valeys use 'flangeing' and some sort of binding material. Over time in Texas heat the seams contract and expand and form tares which allow water in. Anyway from what i hear the standing seam does not have kocking and thus avoid the problem because valeys run under and clips in with no binding materials . Long story short had water damage water came in and shorted wiring around my airconditioner system and, and, and. Roof alone 56k. I don't speak roof bit that was the gest i got. All i know is make sure about your contractors
Very nice explanation, roll formed sheet metal have much higher toughness to weight ratio than any other type of shingles which cause less weight during snow accumulations and less stresses on the roof beam structure, therefore much more lighter and simpler structure for the roof can be designed which is an advantage economically.
I'm glad he looped back around to longevity near the end because when he was asked about price, he made it sound like metal roofs might only last 5 to 15yrs. I was thinking "that can't be right, but I'll wait and see if he specifically addresses life expectancy". Good follow up at the end, crisis averted. Warranty is anywhere between 40yrs and lifetime, the limitation usually being paint.
Agreed. His story about the metal roofs in Ohio that have been around since the 1800's really drove that point home! Thanks for commenting! -Thad
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I have no doubt that those roofs are copper$$$ Unfortunately, metal scrappers are the least logical people on the planet. I used to live in a neighborhood where you'd come back from vacation and no one had broken into your house, but your gutters, downspouts, and aluminum siding might be gone.
I live in Ohio and I'm planning a new rural build. It will have a standing seam steel roof (I will be looking at Sheffield Metals products). But, I'm also considering a mix of horizontal and shingle type metal siding. I'll only be looking at steel because of my history with the insidious metal scrappers and their lust for copper and aluminum.
Wow, really! That's a first for me, I haven't heard that one before. Very interesting! Luckily steel, especially Galvalume, is a great product as well. Let me know if I can help in any way. Thanks and good luck! -Thad
How do they perform on eaves and valleys prone to ice dams in northern climates? Seems as though water can back up and get underneath them similar to asphalt compared to the ice dam resiliency or standing seam metal roof
I have been looking at metal roofs and also looking which type is best for DIY and it looks like the Metal Shingles are lend more to the DIY compared to the standing seam type. I have installed fiberglass/asphalt and concrete tile roofs on homes i have owned so I am trying to get a good idea if can do this my self.
Hey Owen, yes there are many people who decide to take on their metal shingle project themselves. If you go through an Isaiah Industries dealer, there is tons educational material on installation practices that will help! -Thad
Could you explain in another event the benefits of Metal Shingle over Slate Tile
Does it makes the house warmer?
what would the benefit be for it to be light? also as a home owner when I plan to walk on my roof how slippery is it? Will i dent it if Im 250 lbs? thanks guys keep up the good work
You can't walk on them when they're wet, you really will skate off the edge. The pitch of your roof matters. You really should follow health and safety guidelines which means a scaffold tower to the height of your eves and really a safety harness as well, as a private individual you can invariably do as you wish. If you walk in the middle of the tiles then will dent in, they generally pop out again, but at 250 pounds they might not. You are supposed to put your weight on the leading edge (Of the row) as that's where the roofing baton is put horizontally across the roof trusses and where the steel panels are nailed in, Ideally if you stand on the edge that is also on the roofing truss underneath that would be optimal. (If I was a private individual going on a roof I'd make sure that the soles of my footwear are the type that stick more to metal and I'd wear general building gloves that have that sprayed on plastic finishing as that grips well to metal).
how do you repaint a metal roof ?
Another question is solar panel mounting on Metal Shingles and how easy / difficult that is?
Here is a video that Todd put out about installing solar panels: czcams.com/video/yKx1lJU_PCE/video.html
At the end he mentions there are instructions available for mounting solar to metal shingles, so they can definitely walk you through that. Thanks! -Thad
How do you cut back a too long overhang ?
Can a solar system be added to the roof? I was told that it would cancel the warranty?
I realize that the roof material is not really an insulation, but we have to consider that there will be more heat transfer by conduction than with more traditional materials. Any thoughts?
Also, what about compatibility with solar electric systems?
Installed similar to asphalt shingles for the solar. As for heat transfer, depending on the reflectance rating it can be similar or better than asphalt shingles, it will also depend on house style and wether or not the attic is a heated/ cooled space or not
when they speak of strength, they are referring to the resistance against weather elements .... but can 250lb+ person walk around on the roof as they can with an asphalt shingle roofing material?
If there are areas of the roof that has frequent foot traffic, there are foam inserts that can be purchased to reinforce those locations. -Thad
Hello, Very good videos . I have two roofs to redo 4000 sq. ft. and it is on the Asphalt shingle, to install metal shingles , can we pause the membrane directly on the shingle ? or remove the shingle? Or install plywood on the shingle, membrane and metal shingles ?? Thank you very much for your suggestions !
We generally recommend removing the existing asphalt shingle roof so you can properly inspect the roof deck and make any repairs to the existing structure before installing a new roof. I actually have a video about roofing over asphalt shingles coming out on Wednesday, but it focuses on standing seam. I know metal shingles are installed over asphalt shingles all the time, but I would check with the specific manufacturer of the system and get their recommendation. -Thad
The Metal Roofing Channel Hello, I will check with the manufacturer's recommendation. Thank you very much for your quick feedback, your answer enlightens me enormously because I have three submissions and not one process the same way, but one recommends removing the existing cover.
@@pierrec7968 tear them dried up nasty shingles off
what happens if one of these interlocking panels needs a section repaired, such as to address a leak? Unlike normal shingles or slates, there's no way to just replace one tile is there?
Each panel can be easily individually replaced if it is damaged! -Thad
@@TheMetalRoofingChannel Thanks Thad. How is that done? Doesn't it interlock on all four sides?
@@TheMetalRoofingChannel Can these metal shingles be removed from one house and applied to the roof of another house? That may be the only way to take advantage of their durability. I attended an auction this week where one pile of used vertical seam metal roofing sold for more than $1,000.
What difference does it make how many times the house is sold when limiting the warranty?
This is normal for many products, especially in building products like windows. A lot of products have an initial warranty regardless of how many owners, and then have a very long extended warranty to original purchaser only. It's a way of cutting down on warranty expense, but offering a very long warranty to the person who makes the initial decision on whether to buy it.
Country manor Shake.
Is the best I've installed.
I wouldn't a metal/steel roof on my house.
Aluminium is light weight
What about if you had to walk on the roof for some reason, how much damage would be caused ?
It depends on the profile of metal shingle you end up going with. Some profiles are taller and have more of a gap between the metal and the roof deck, and some are closer to the deck. However, the main consideration would be frequency. How often would you be walking on the roof? If you have a particularly high traffic area, you can add foam backers to the underside of the metal shingles to reduce any strain to the metal. You can hear Todd talk about the foam in next week's episode on how metal shingles are made. Hope this helps! -Thad
Also would you slide your @ss if these metal shingles are wet/slight dew?
In addition to the optional foam backers, if extensive work is being done on the roof, such as perhaps chimney cleaning, you can lay foam or boards on top of the metal shingles and then walk on those. They distribute the weight and prevent damage to the roof.
What about moss? Will this keep the moss off of my roof? What about leaves? I have maple trees and fir trees plus others here. I have a huge moss issue..
You should get a standing seam/long run steel or metal shingles that have a smooth paint finish. Then use an anti mold/moss on your roof (as a wash) say at least yearly. Moss takes hold quickly once its got something to latch onto.
Can a metal shingle roof typically be installed over one layer of asphalt?
no, only standing seam
Very nice video, but disappointing you didn't talk about cost..
Here's a video all about cost : bit.ly/metal-shingle-roof-price-cost-video -Thad
I wanted some of these on my tiny home build as siding instead of doing cedar shake on the sides...but DAMN...36lbs per panel...OOF...
But a pound or less per square foot? Not bad at all in comparison to asphalt shingles.
I'm surprised you didn't show metal that is shaped like red clay tile. Both are very common in Europe. It's what I'm shopping for.
Hey David, you're right! I will make sure we show those tile-shaped systems over the next couple weeks. We still have lots to cover! Thanks for the comment! -Thad
Check this product out: www.decra.com/metal-roofing-products/villa-tile And if you're anywhere close to northern VA I'd be glad to install it for you.
What about mildew?
Here is an issue I have with metal roofs. I will have my stand alone garage/barn style roof. I will cover it with a standing seam metal roof. I heard Martha Stewart once say her metal roof is loud when it rains. On my garage t doesn't matter, but what about my house. It is also a barn style roof as the house is a Dutch Colonial. and the mansard part of the roof is right at window level. Won't I hear the sound of water hitting metal while inside, and tryintg to sleep? Would it sound like water hitting an empty aluminum garbage can? Nobody is talking about the sounds.
I like the sound of rain on a metal roof. It isn't that loud, and it definitely doesn't sound like water hitting a trash can, but it is noticeable.
The level of sound is relative to any insulation you have which will dampen the noise. I lived in a metal roofed house as a kid and the sound of rain was definitely noticeable as there was no loft insulation. Must admit I liked the sound of the rain on the roof.
how hard is it to repair this metal shingle roofing?
We've never had to repair a metal shingle roof, metal roofs are tough. The metal sheet of shingles is nailed horizontally into the underlying roofing baton. Get a fixing sheet on the product and you'll see how its affixed.
Why the f am I redoing a roof every 10 years in Florida if using metal? Less weight, way more rigidity, and as long as the finish is clean why do I need to replace? I'm over the high cost bs and insurance bs. I've done all my own home remodeling including roofing and I'm just at a loss for words. The whole system is ridiculous. Warranty doesn't mean squat if the insurance company is making you replace it. The extra cost isn't worth it either.
What is the cost difference between this metal roof system and a snaplock system? Any pros/cons between the 2 systems? I am about to do a roof now and that question put the purchase of your product on hold until we reviews costs and life expectancy/warrantee.
Hello! Great question. We actually have a video about metal shingle cost coming out April 8, but I can give you a quick answer. If you check out this video, bit.ly/metal-roof-cost-price-video , you can see a snaplock pricing example around 1:53. We priced the same house with two different kinds of metal shingles, and it came out to be about double the price as the snaplock. There are several reasons for that. Material, paint finish, amount of labor, and more all contributed. There could be steps you could take to help reduce the cost of the metal shingles and get it closer to snaplock, but metal shingles will most likely be more expensive because of the labor involved alone. Of course, it depends on your contractor and area. If you need any technical help or have any specific questions about warranties, I would suggest getting in contact with the Sheffield Metals technical department: www.sheffieldmetals.com/Resources/Technical-Department I hope this is helpful! -Thad
Here's the video I promised! czcams.com/video/43wbSz5G3kQ/video.html
-Thad
A bundle of shingles is 80lbs, 3 per square. That's 240 lbs, 1 SQ is 100sq ft.. therefore an asphalt shingle roof is 2.5 lbs per square foot
I'm very interested in these...what is thr general cost in comparison to regular shingles?
Also can they be walked on? Normally I climb on my roof to clean my gutters...
The cost will be higher than an asphalt shingle roof. You can check out this video to hear some actual pricing numbers: czcams.com/video/43wbSz5G3kQ/video.html
A foam backer can be installed on areas that you expect to have heavy foot traffic so the roof isn't damaged. -Thad
Take my money
Pricing is elusive.
Why no Diamonds?
Bigg Time uses diamonds.
Diamonds are the best.
Shitty when comes too solar and an installer there is no racking system for these types of shingles makes the possibility of goin solar other than ground mount for these home owners
I thought plastic shingle that are thick would work well, be sent resistant, rust proof, cheaper, easier to mass produce, heat and cold protection, and easy to color!!!!
This doesn't look like an upgrade. I wouldn't trust the durability. Also, betting it would be hard to find competent installers and labor cost would be "through the roof".
Asphalt shingles are junk, they are nailed to the underlying OSB and must sweat leading to the rapid deterioration of the substrate. Its very surprising that they as a roofing solution are still used. OSB rapidly deteriorates when exposed to moisture.
@@cowboybuilder THAT Is Why You Roll Out Tar Paper FIRST On To The Wood, And Then Weather Shield On It As Well. You Must Not Know Very Much About Roofing Kiddo. You're Taking BIG STUPID Shortcuts By Putting Shingles Directly On To A Wood Roof. You Sound Like A Cowboy Builder All Right...
Why would someone make steel shingles which is not resistant to rust ??? I think this will defeat the purpose .
After 50 years the underlying wood of the roof along with the nails would be getting closer to end of life. After say 30 years if the roof was resprayed then its quite likely you could end up with a 100 year roof etc.
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Very nice dodging and no actual answer. Like, it will last 2 to 3 time as long as a Parrot.
Too much talking!!, not enough showing you the Product. Go home!!!