I like these engines i really dont care what others say….. i do prefer the dt tho rode a 2011-12 one for a month nothing was wrong with it exept when it went over the hardest bumps one of the hadles for the exits Would pop Open Every once in a while nothing wrong when you compare it to the 2015-16 blue bird that i ride…..
The 6.4’s were not a horrible design as far as the hard parts were concerned…it was all the add-ons that made them ticking time bombs…Ford’s add-on’s were worse than International’s but they were still crappy nonetheless…they were capable of producing ridiculous hp and torque and their bottom ends were super strong!…if fully deleted and coupled with a respectable tune they would hold together quite well…also, the factory oil change intervals were wayyyyy off!!!..it was a finicky engine that needed good oil and oil changes every 5000 miles in order to get reasonable reliability out of them…these guys putting Rotella T6 in them thinking they could extend their services to 15-20,000 miles got very rude awakenings not far down the road…you would be better off putting Walmart oil in every 5000 than putting T6 every 10,000…the engines ran dirty and had fuel dilution issues along with heavy sooting problems so the oil had a great deal of contamination by the time 10000 rolled around and if some other catastrophic issue didn’t happen by that time, the upper valve train would frigg off on them…also they were not a NAPA filter friendly engine!!!..none of the powerstroke or navistar engines liked aftermarket filters!!..factory filters or nothing at all!!…orrr you could just go out and buy something with a 5.9, 6.7, or 6.6 in it and beat them like your red headed stepchild and never have an issue!…but I digress..🤷🏻♂️
I have been very impressed with the 6.4s that were deleted, like you said, they are ridiculous!!!! I've had several that I bought from auction that did not get deleted in time )=
You can delete them, but then theres still issues baked into the design. Most common issues we see is high pressure fuel pump failure (which means 8 new injectors yay!!), front cover cavitation, we cant rebuild the connecting rods because theres no bushing in the small end like almost every other motor, bent cranks. Theres quite a few deleted trucks that roll into the shop we still have to put a motor in even on a stock level tune that just deletes the regen.
Need some advice here. A local junk yard of mine is selling a 2010 IC CE with the Maxxforce 7 6.4l V8 (just like yours)... Has 75k miles and they are asking only 2,800 dollars. BUT, has been sitting for 2 years (periodically moved around). No problems with it they said. Is it worth a buy or would I be making risk?
sitting wouldn't bother me, but the maxxforce 7 is a ticking time bomb. I'd buy the bus take the engine out and sell it to someone that needs it. A running engine alone is worth triple or quadruple their asking price.
@@frostydoesit i would have rather had a refined continuation of the DT 360 in-line 6 5.9liter instead of the Maxxforce 7. Could call it the Maxxforce 360.
@@frostydoesit that’s exactly why I think that international should have continued it and modified it to use egr, DPF and DEF without major issues like the Maxxforce 7.
The Maxxforce 7 engine will always be so nostalgic to me. It's like my childhood.
Oh sheesh lol!!!
Such a nostalgic sound from my days in elementary and middle school. All the IC CE's with that engine in my district are now retired :(
All retired here too
That was a good cold start for a maxxforce at 18°!
It sure was, that was a nice running Maxx7 for sure!
Nostalgia 🥲
All the memories and feels...
I like these engines i really dont care what others say….. i do prefer the dt tho rode a 2011-12 one for a month nothing was wrong with it exept when it went over the hardest bumps one of the hadles for the exits Would pop Open Every once in a while nothing wrong when you compare it to the 2015-16 blue bird that i ride…..
The 6.4 is plagued with soooo many problems....emissions the
Biggest part of that.
@@frostydoesit I think he’s trying to say he likes the sounds it makes and doesn’t understand that it’s literally one of the worst diesels ever made 😂
The 6.4’s were not a horrible design as far as the hard parts were concerned…it was all the add-ons that made them ticking time bombs…Ford’s add-on’s were worse than International’s but they were still crappy nonetheless…they were capable of producing ridiculous hp and torque and their bottom ends were super strong!…if fully deleted and coupled with a respectable tune they would hold together quite well…also, the factory oil change intervals were wayyyyy off!!!..it was a finicky engine that needed good oil and oil changes every 5000 miles in order to get reasonable reliability out of them…these guys putting Rotella T6 in them thinking they could extend their services to 15-20,000 miles got very rude awakenings not far down the road…you would be better off putting Walmart oil in every 5000 than putting T6 every 10,000…the engines ran dirty and had fuel dilution issues along with heavy sooting problems so the oil had a great deal of contamination by the time 10000 rolled around and if some other catastrophic issue didn’t happen by that time, the upper valve train would frigg off on them…also they were not a NAPA filter friendly engine!!!..none of the powerstroke or navistar engines liked aftermarket filters!!..factory filters or nothing at all!!…orrr you could just go out and buy something with a 5.9, 6.7, or 6.6 in it and beat them like your red headed stepchild and never have an issue!…but I digress..🤷🏻♂️
I have been very impressed with the 6.4s that were deleted, like you said, they are ridiculous!!!! I've had several that I bought from auction that did not get deleted in time )=
You can delete them, but then theres still issues baked into the design. Most common issues we see is high pressure fuel pump failure (which means 8 new injectors yay!!), front cover cavitation, we cant rebuild the connecting rods because theres no bushing in the small end like almost every other motor, bent cranks. Theres quite a few deleted trucks that roll into the shop we still have to put a motor in even on a stock level tune that just deletes the regen.
Need some advice here. A local junk yard of mine is selling a 2010 IC CE with the Maxxforce 7 6.4l V8 (just like yours)... Has 75k miles and they are asking only 2,800 dollars. BUT, has been sitting for 2 years (periodically moved around). No problems with it they said. Is it worth a buy or would I be making risk?
sitting wouldn't bother me, but the maxxforce 7 is a ticking time bomb. I'd buy the bus take the engine out and sell it to someone that needs it. A running engine alone is worth triple or quadruple their asking price.
6.4 powerjoke is a disaster
Yes they are! 7.3 for me plz
Price ???
This one sold a while back
These engines are the worst. I think the Cummins isB 6.7 and Maxxforce DT is better for the ic CEs.
I agree 110% 6.4 were all junk....in medium duty or powerstroke....
@@frostydoesit tbh the Maxxforce 7 shouldn’t have been a thing.
@@frostydoesit i would have rather had a refined continuation of the DT 360 in-line 6 5.9liter instead of the Maxxforce 7. Could call it the Maxxforce 360.
@@charlesrodriguez7984 the dt360 was a great engine. I'd like to swap one if those into a pickup someday
@@frostydoesit that’s exactly why I think that international should have continued it and modified it to use egr, DPF and DEF without major issues like the Maxxforce 7.
Woah! Is that straight piped???
It actually did have a muffler under there. It sounds great, though!
@@frostydoesit OK
Most advanced diesel for next 50 years
Cummins chevy guys all stfu when they learn they only have a 3inch downpipe
The 6.4 are pretty bad