Victorinox Cybertool L (Cybertool 41)
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- čas přidán 2. 03. 2020
- The Cybertool L has a lot in common with the popular SwissChamp. Though the additional tools on this model, as the name implies, make it a better solution for those working in tech repair.
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I love my Cybertool. My parents gave it to me twenty years ago, and I still carry it and use it daily. I totally forgot about that pin though, until you showed that! I could have used that a million times... And I lost the screwdriver long ago until I was reminded of it and ordered a new one yesterday.
I'm strangely attracted to the behemoth SAKs. They're too big for me to conveniently carry but just looking at them makes me happy.
Seeing the Champ alongside the Cybertool really made me realise just how much more suitable the latter is for me. Great review 👍
They have more "snaps" to "snap". :3 More fun to play with at the DMV or other long lines, when your cell phone battery is low. 😛
Lol, you don’t have to explain. We get it.
Same here. Been watching too many videos of the larger SAKs an end up buying a Craftsman eventhough i didnt need one 😝 just nice to play around with the tools. And in case anything came up, ive the solution in my bagpack always ready
I like the big ones and have got the XLT (and a Swiss Champ) but really, the Cybertool L in this video would replace them both. It has the slimmer body of the Swiss Champ, with hex tools not found on the Swiss Champ (that are on the XLT). The XLT is 43mm and that's too much! When the Cybertool L exists at 33mm I think it's the #1 all rounder. I'd trade in both my used Swiss Champ and XLT together for a new one of these.
@Ben
My pleasure sir. Glad you, and your viewers, could enjoy them almost as much as I do. :)
I'll have them back on the way to you tomorrow, thanks again.
@@txtoolcrib Excellent, sir, my wife razzed me for getting excited about a stranger getting to review my knives. :D
Outside the Target Demographic some things are just beyond their understanding, and visa versa.
That 5 mm driver is a female Hex drive 5 mm for D-SUB connectors - like the ones on female VGA ports, for example.
I tested it on them; It works well!
www.victorinox.com/global/en/Products/Swiss-Army-Knives/Medium-Pocket-Knives/CyberTool-L/p/1.7775.T
Just a reminder, The bit driver of the Cybertool family seems to be some other kind of metal and it will gradually lose its luster in time but its strength and rigidity are still like something brand new. I have a Cybertool L for 8-9 years and found that bit driver turns into a much darker black color, but it still works perfectly.
If you only buy the Cybertool for collection the color changing issue is something you definitely need to take care of. If you look for something that is going to be a mini toolbox in your house then I definitely recommend the Cybertool L over the Swiss Champ. A lot of people don't go fishing and also many don't use the magnifying glass, but people always get to use a set of drivers sooner or later.
I use the fish scaler for quite a bit of stuff. I love that tool. I never use it for fish though. The little prongs on the top come in handy for clipping PC fan clips on and off heatsinks without removing the GPU. I think that tool would have been a better tool to include in the cybertool over the saw even though the intended purpose doesn't really fit with the theme of the knife. I can't really think of many uses for a saw while fixing electronics though.
@@frank234561 You are right, but it is Victorinox who designs these tools and gives them their unique and "official" purposes. However most of the time people improvise on how we actually use the tools, and Victorinox always does a great job as their tool quality is great.
We can easily see why Victorinox doesn't put the fishery tool with the cyber tool bit driver because according to their own official use the fishery tool is going to touch a lot of water, which basically kills any electronics. Instead, they put the LED light and a magnifying glass to make the "Cyber tool Lite" which fits the bit driver even better.
(Don't buy the swisschamp xlt if people are not buying them to add into the collection, even if it contains both the swisschamp and cybertool bit driver, as it is more expensive than both the swisschamp and cybertool L combined and is thicker and more difficult to use compared to either of the model)
Thanks for your great videos! They are very helpful since you add your valuable perspective in using tools, not just enumerating features.
You’re very welcome, thanks for watching.
As a woodworker, I also find Leatherman saws more aggressive... but sometimes that's not what you need as it can result in a rougher cut. The actual advantage Leatherman has is where they have replacable jigsaw blades, like on the Surge.
Also, the chisel is mostly used bevel-down when cutting a housing dado or similar 'groove' in wood, for a more shallow cut and better control over how much you chisel out. This becomes more apparent when using it as a scraper and you want to avoid damaging the surface being scraped - Using it bevel-up as you describe means a deeper cut and often it will dig down into the wood far further than you might want to go... However, using it side-on with the flat horizontal to flatten/smooth something out, like lap joints or tenon cheeks, does work best bevel-up.... and in both use cases, Victorinox does have it the better way round - Bevel-down, you want the back of the bevel juuuuuuuuust a hair's breadth up off the surface, which on these knives means you have just the right amount of space to wrap your fingers round and beneath the knife!
I carry this at work everyday, saves me a lot of long walks to the toolboxes. I’ve used the saw/ scissors on large cable ties, and the little pliers while desoldering. I’ve even used the little tweezers for installing very small shims. The driver too is excellent, especially when working on sv manifolds because of the reach into recessed holes. Also my tooth pick gets used a lot lol
This is the next in my collection. I put most of my swiss army knives to everyday use. The only exception is my 2021 limited edition carbon fiber with Damascus main blade knife. That one is just for show. I believe this one will become my main carry swiss army knive. Thanks for the video man!
Hey, for what it's worth, I think you make the best knife reviews on CZcams. I've picked up a leatherman for the first time after watching your video. It's the TTi to be exact. Really love it, and I prioritized the blade steel over the other minor advantages of the wave. I'll probably pick up the Cybertool M to keep in my bag after watching this too. Thanks for your good work!
Thank you, I really appreciate that. Good choice on the TTi, that is a great multi tool.
Love the trick with the pen. This is why I watch reviews.
With this video I bought the Cyber Tool L
Thanks and great review
Such a coop tool! (I have no use for it but it's still really neat)
Thank you for this great presentation! Your word is bond for me!
I have the cybertool lite and absolutely love it. I never carry it in my pocket, but have it either in my daypack, car or at a central place in the house so it is always within reach.
I would like to get my hands on that model as well.
Thank you, you answered right the questions I wanted to ask. Thumbs up!
I ordered one of these yesterday and really looking forward to it.
I won't be carrying it in my pocket, but attached to my work bag on a lanyard and stored in a pocket.
Sadly, I recently lost my old Swiss army knife whilst travelling, which I had since the early 90s (so about 32 years old).
Still, this new one will have more functionality, so life goes on.
Thanks for the review!
OH wait, NM, I just found my old Victorinox as the bottom of a bag! Happy days!
After watching some YT videos, the old one is a Victorinox Explorer, but a really old one I got in the early 90s.
I'll keep the old one on a keychain and the cyber tool on my work bag as planned.
Excellent review! It's my camping EDC!
Thank you sir.
Thank you very much for this very informative video!
You're very welcome. Thank you for watching.
i‘ve seen an aftermarket replacement for the tweezers that functions as a fire starter (sparker). also, additional bits to fit are availabe at Lee Valley.
Great comparison video. I carry a Victorinox Handyman, which is the Cybertool L(less the driver and the pen). It's only 'failing' for me is the lack of a Phillips driver, and hence I am giving strong consideration to the Swisschamp or Cybertool L. Thanks for helping!
You're quite welcome, appreciate you taking the time to watch.
Aaah....my video for dinner time.
Glad I could help.
Thanks for the helpful review. I think if anything - for completeness you might have wanted to mention the wire cutting and crimping function of the pliers.
I think their pliers are crazy good, I ripped skin off my thumb because of how grippy they were. I wish that instead of putting a crimper on it, they should put replaceable wire cutter on them, maybe a mod for you to do sometime :P
You say the only tool you would miss that's on the Champ, is the in line Phillips, but why is this an issue. The Cyber has 3 different sized Phillips bits, which can be used in line, or even at 90° for more torque. Surely the Cyber L is vastly superior in this area. Also, it's reach is much better than the Champ.
I was thinking the same
It’s a fantastic tool. Everything in one. For me, personally, have a 4 bits in pocket (not in case on belt) much more useful than big pliers. I’ve got from cybertool more, then from any of my leatherman.
This bad boy has everything! I think I would choose the last cyber tool you reviewed over this because it is smaller. I dont always use a saw/file with what I do and when I do I grab my leather man super tool 300 for those tasks.
Very awesome tool tho! Great review my friend I always love your videos
I think I prefer the smaller version as well. This one is a bit chunky. Great for a bag or vehicle though.
build quality of leatherman is amateur at best.
I have both the cybertool M and the Super Tool 300 and it gets me through whatever I need.
By far the best review on this tool I’ve seen! I need to replace a lost Swiss Champ and this is the leading contender. Do you know what size bits I would need to buy to use in the driver? Thanks for your time and attention.
This is the best all-round, even if you're not working on electronics. It's the same thickness as a Swiss Champ at 33mm but it includes the hex tools that aren't on the Swiss Champ. The reason the Swiss Champ is the same thickness without the hex tools is, it has the fish scale tool (useless for most people), a large Philips (the hex tools have one anyway) and a magnifying glass. If you can do without the magnifying glass then this Cybertool L is far better than the Swiss Champ, but it's a lot most costly too.
Thank you.
Its good to see them go with a standard 4mm bit size rather than something proprietary. It's not a 1/4" bit (which wouldn't fit in the tool and would be oversized for the intended purpose) but lots of companies make 4mm bits. Regards the positioning of the chisel, I agree. If they couldn't move it to the far side they could at least have put the bevel/cutting edge on the other side of the tool.
Try using a 1/4" _square to hex adapter_ on the SwissChamps' phillips head, and see if it'll turn. Or try the adapter on the bottle openers' flathead screwdriver.
I'm really thinking of getting one of these for modding, getting rid of the knife/knife/bottle opener layer, the pliers layer and the saw/"little driver" layer. Four layers should work much better for my pocket, and while I'd miss the large knife, I live with silly laws which removing that layer would help with.
What I'm primarily after is the metal file and the bit set, and this tool is the only one with both...well, except for the 15-layer models. But I want a multitool fit for EDC, not for the glove compartment.
Nice review
Thanks!
Nice review! I pocket carry a Swiss Champ around, mainly at work, it's a great tool to have, saved me several walks to look for a proper tool. I buyed it mostly because of the plyer, once my previous Swiss knife hadn't it. Seeing your video made me want this Cybertool 41 because that driver, and these bits seems to be very useful on my everyday routine, but I wonder if the bit's holder tip don't get in the way when you try to use the driver applying a good amount of force, it's a little over prominent, maybe?
I didn't notice any issue with the holder causing any interference at all.
This is my everyday pocket knife for the last 5 years (had a cybertool M for the past 15 year)... It’s a bit heavy and large but nothing stand in its way. Pro tips: the plier also have a very powerful wirecutter and the cap opener have a wire stripper...
Thanks for the tips, and thanks for watching.
Do u prefer Cybertool L over M?
@@azku The Cybertool L got a wood and and metal saw/file really handy for destroying cardboard boxes and cutting tru nails and screws. But now I don't install much big equipment anymore I missed the weight and slimness of the Cybertool M
@@BigMacIIx So there's quite a bit of difference in terms of weight amd size between M and L?
@@azku Side by side the Cybertool L looks too wide and feel slightly heavier in my jeans pockets
I miss a ruler and a magnifying glass here. But overall, it's a fantastic EDC.
There are more cybertool bits available which are included on the Swisschamp XXL. Unfortunately, no where to store them on this knife, probably in a small pouch or case. I’m probably on my 3rd Cybertool 34 (or M) since 2002, and have also had a Cybertool Lite. Seriously considering the L as a Swisschamp alternative which I have 3 and an XLT.
Kinda wish the cybertool L had a ruler of some kind. Something to measure with is always handy. Everything else is great.
Cybertool L is going on my wish list...
It's a nice knife.
This V'nox reminds me of a specialized mult-itool I have of which you may not be aware. It's for use with quality amateur telescopes in the field. Made by Orion telescope. com, it has the same type of bit holder & driver, and I wonder whether it inspired or was inspired by the Tech Tool. It also has the same type of kniife, pliers, can opener, and bottle opener blades, although the fit & finish is not up to Victorinox standards. Instead of a 2nd knife blade it has a "blade" that has 10mm & 7/16" hex cutouts where the edge would be and a 13mm cutout between them on the spine side. There is also the T-handle Phillips you dislike. The most unique tools, however, are built into the thicker of the 2 scales. There is a small, soft-bristled brush that folds up out of the scale to be extruded from the protective cover and detached to dust the lenses of the telescope . At the other end is a red light (doesn't destroy your night vision) for note-taking, map reading, and using the tool for adjustments or repair. It comes with a belt sheath that has a pocket for a lens cloth. The 2 CR927 lithium cells are visible through the translucent, dark blue handle under a removable cover.
Sounds really interesting.
In your opinion, what is the best cybertool?
i wish victorinox would produce a tool that acts as a „companion“ tool to their more basic knives. the cybertool is no longer a pocket knife, unless you wear suspenders 😅. sometimes i just need the basics and other times (travelling for instance) i‘d like to have the extras included in the cyber tool series.
just throwing this out there since you mentioned companion tools - i actually use the cybertool S with an aftermarket pocket clip as a companion tool to my main EDC, which is the swisstool spirit X. my first ever EDC was the cybertool L (which was the cybertool 41 back when i purchased it) and i still to this day get angry at losing it nearly a decade ago, but was in time even more thrilled with the spirit X as its replacement as I came to depend on having a good strong set of full size pliers on my person at all times. i really missed that cybertool driver though, so adding the cybertool S along with my spirit X gave me that back along with the occasionally handy pen, tweezers, pin, and eyeglass screwdriver. just something for your consideration, cheers!
It's funny because the philips is supersceded by the bit driver. I wouldnt miss the fish scaler at all. But if they found a way to get the magnifier on the cybertool i'd rather carry that around than the champ. The magnifier to me seems better fitted on a cyber tool
A fun bit of info, I'm not 100 percent positive but it makes sense, I've heard if a victorinox has the multi purpose hook then it has scissors and vice versa, just thought I'd share that 👍👍👍
I think you're right. Each layer is universally layed out in each knife. The twin knives are always to the one end, and the combo/can opener tools are to the other end. Across the whole range, the tools are always in the same configuration. That's why the Cybertool Driver is offset, as Ben shows. They had to keep the same layout, adding the Driver into the mix.
@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic I think it may only be true with 91 mm, and that got me thinking, is the reamer always opposite of the opening tools? I only have a huntsman in front of me
@@anthonymascis9833 I'm at work, but my Swiss Champ's reamer is, indeed, directly "under" the opening tools. Below is the tool layout of my Swiss Champ:
Spine layer=Main layer
Corkscrew=main blades
Reamer=opening tools
Chisel=metal file
Flat driver=saw
Nothing=fish descaler
Nothing=pliers
Nothing=MLens/ILPhilips
Awe=openers
@@OutsideTheTargetDemographic nice, thank you for the info 👍👍👍
@@anthonymascis9833 No problem. It's a fun "symmetry" thing to notice. :)
i don't know if this is a recent development, but currently you can find a couple of additional bits from a 3rd party.
both of them small hex on both sides.
Where can you find those bits?
@@onemanwreckingcrew i have seen them on ebay and places that sell accessories and replacement parts for victorinox knives.
Thx for an great overview, really makes me interested in getting a cybertool at some point.. If you want to see a comparison of saw blades check out Felix Immler (CZcams). He found that Leatherman seemed to or different saw blades on different models and some really performed poorly. The Charge was on par, or slightly better than the Victorinox (in his test). Cheers!
I have caught a lot of his videos, I don't think I have seen that one though. I need to go check it out.
My Swisschamp has no hole for a pin or hook. Must be an old one.
I like cyber tool L
The chisel is in the right place, it’s just you don’t realise that you were using it the wrong way round. 🙄
The can opener can also be use as Philips screw driver!
Thank you, actually several people have made me aware of that fact.
it is just a handyman with screwdriver bits
And a file
The pin is not a safety pin
You ever seen a grown man naked.
Shit, your hands are massive, the sak looks small in comparison, or I have lady hands
That corkscrew is the most useless tool on any multitool.
I know a lot of people would disagree with that statement.
Tell that to Felix Immler!
And how else would you open a wine bottle?
@@sanjivjhangiani3243 If you need to have a corkscrew on a EDC multitool, you have a drinking problem.
@@zero604 rofl 😄