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  • Sonic The Hedgehog is a gaming icon, with so many hit games and even a Sonic movie on the way there is no slowing down for this blue hedgehog. So join The Leaderboard as we run through all it in The complete Sonic timeline.
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    Sonic The Hedgehog is one of gamings biggest icon and has a legacy of amazing games from the original Sonic The Hedgehog, Sonic Adventures 1 and Sonic Adventure 2, plus so many more. Sonic is even speeding his way on to the big screen in the Sonic the Hedgehog movie. So join The Leaderboard as we bring you the complete Sonic timeline. We will explore Sonic the Hedgehog 1 through 3, both Sonic Adventure games, Sonic Heros, Sonic 06, Sonic Generations, and Sonic forces.
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  • @TheLeaderboard
    @TheLeaderboard  Před 4 lety +1906

    For those of you wondering where certain game are, we explain it at 25:43! If you wanna see a deeper dive into the Sonic Timeline, we can definitely piece together an absolutely complete version, including all of Sonic Team's games! Let us know in the comments below. Also, what do you guys prefer 2D or 3D Sonic?

    • @webdude15
      @webdude15 Před 4 lety +36

      I prefer 3d.
      Also....when are u gonna tell us how the sonic COMICS and games tie together to make '2 timelines' gonna love that

    • @michaelkindt3288
      @michaelkindt3288 Před 4 lety +15

      ‘Tis be a noble effort, but this video is more complete: czcams.com/video/ubhjoxxT4P8/video.html (and as a part 2)

    • @jamesoffutt2801
      @jamesoffutt2801 Před 4 lety +10

      Both

    • @Jostanos
      @Jostanos Před 4 lety +15

      I happen to like both 2D and 3D versions of Sonic.

    • @BenSchubert1995
      @BenSchubert1995 Před 4 lety +23

      23:24 Aren't we going to talk about Sonic Mania? ....No? ...Ok then...

  • @IronMan-2008
    @IronMan-2008 Před 4 lety +5469

    Mario talking about the Sonic timeline.

    • @sebastianfontanez1081
      @sebastianfontanez1081 Před 4 lety +196

      He has disguised himself

    • @EMP_Maniac
      @EMP_Maniac Před 4 lety +116

      @@sebastianfontanez1081 You're not wrong: the shirt I picked was a deliberate choice since it had some Sonic blues/whites and a dash of golden yellow for rings.
      Fun little easter egg for ya. ;)

    • @EMP_Maniac
      @EMP_Maniac Před 4 lety +69

      Also, thank you for calling this out! I almost did a totally different intro to make a gag out of that fact, but seeing this is WAY more satisfying. :D

    • @balls699
      @balls699 Před 4 lety +17

      I WAS GOING TO COMMENT THAT!!!

    • @iloveanimations9088
      @iloveanimations9088 Před 4 lety +8

      WHY ARE YOU HERE

  • @HyperMetal
    @HyperMetal Před 4 lety +3127

    “He encounters Mecha Sonic, not to be confused with Metal Sonic.”
    *proceeds to not even talk about Metal Sonic’s debut game, Sonic CD despite being canon.*

    • @DarkFrozenDepths
      @DarkFrozenDepths Před 4 lety +227

      not to mention that mania ties into the classic timeline and is why classic sonic meets modern sonic a 2nd time....

    • @phlpcockrell
      @phlpcockrell Před 4 lety +42

      He mentions it at the end though.

    • @joshuadavis2279
      @joshuadavis2279 Před 4 lety +107

      Should we also acknowledge the fact that the robot in Sonic 2 is actually Silver Sonic and not Mecha or Metal Sonic?

    • @sparx0414
      @sparx0414 Před 4 lety +39

      IKR,
      I was like where is sonic CD????

    • @jujushmoojoo
      @jujushmoojoo Před 4 lety +20

      But sonic mania conclusion ends up with sonic going into a portal and by the time he is out of the portal boom! He saves tails and joins the force to stop evil!

  • @milesdapro
    @milesdapro Před 2 lety +230

    "Finally Sonic kicks Shadow's ass, Tails beats Eggman's ass and they stop the eclipse cannon effectively kicking its ass"
    favorite quote of all time

  • @gowi042782
    @gowi042782 Před 2 lety +58

    From an innocent game to a hedgehog with guns! What a world we live in…

  • @tfisanegg6712
    @tfisanegg6712 Před 3 lety +718

    "Did they ever fix the moon?"
    *Those type of questions make people go missing.*

    • @OsgoodAli
      @OsgoodAli Před 2 lety +11

      Exact 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

    • @realepicaaron3326
      @realepicaaron3326 Před 2 lety +20

      pretty sure the explanation from sega of europe was “it turned to the other side” or something like that

    • @Crazybrainsproductionz
      @Crazybrainsproductionz Před rokem +6

      The sonic x anime explains this eggman fixes it to put it in front of the moon so he can hypnotize people with light orbs

    • @NynyLemon123
      @NynyLemon123 Před rokem +1

      @@realepicaaron3326 BUT THE MOON PHYSICALLY CAN´T JUST TURN TO THE OTHER SIDE CRHBKHBCRKVHCR sonic team u silly billy

  • @dogeymon83
    @dogeymon83 Před 4 lety +1916

    I don’t know where Robotnik gets all his funding from.

    • @Ringworm1281
      @Ringworm1281 Před 4 lety +21

      czcams.com/video/xUDMvkWbNfM/video.html

    • @Thundomsticatdforall
      @Thundomsticatdforall Před 4 lety +86

      The million dollar question...lol

    • @HeyitsMartyn
      @HeyitsMartyn Před 4 lety +71

      Because he’s batman.

    • @tasmsinist3rsix664
      @tasmsinist3rsix664 Před 4 lety +224

      "Don't you ever wonder where your tax dollars go?"

    • @miniaturejayhawk8702
      @miniaturejayhawk8702 Před 4 lety +121

      Throughout the Series it is known that Eggman holds Several assets:
      - Doctor-Title
      - Global Enterprise
      - Casinos
      - Oil Fields
      - Robot Armies
      Its wouldn't surprise me if we would find out he is one of the most wealthiest people on Mobius.

  • @adeadphish7931
    @adeadphish7931 Před rokem +51

    I still love the Shadow saga (SA2, SH, Shadow the Hedgehog) and REALLY hope the third movie does him justice, especially given people working on it worked in those games. Also, I may be a Nintendo kid first but his time on the GameCube blurred the 90s console war battle lines enough that it doesn't matter these days

  • @mykitchenmyroutine6682
    @mykitchenmyroutine6682 Před 3 lety +201

    Classic Sonic leaving in forces be like : change da world, my final message
    *Goodbye*
    Edit: How did this get 46 likes .
    Second edit: what. The actual. *FU-*

    • @chip-toons
      @chip-toons Před 3 lety +1

      this deserves a lot more than four likes

    • @MilkIsTheOne
      @MilkIsTheOne Před 3 lety +2

      Sonic Mania Adventure
      Sonic: *BONJOUR*

    • @MilkIsTheOne
      @MilkIsTheOne Před 3 lety +1

      @Super Mario Michael 2
      Do you think that Sonic Mania and Sonic Force's is canon?

    • @atompunk456
      @atompunk456 Před 3 lety +1

      lmao

    • @eligo_1392
      @eligo_1392 Před 2 lety +1

      69 likes

  • @raven3067
    @raven3067 Před 4 lety +691

    Mario: All hedgehogs look the same.
    *THATS SPECIST*

    • @spooderman6312
      @spooderman6312 Před 3 lety +19

      he IS mario

    • @user-dx8nl9qm9d
      @user-dx8nl9qm9d Před 2 lety +19

      Actually... that would be racist.... since hedgehogs are a different race than humans

    • @Jrock24cantbebeat
      @Jrock24cantbebeat Před 2 lety +2

      Though...under the right light, yes they look the same. But... yeah... though he was pissed because 9/10 his mind said: How the hell.

    • @KingDaveth
      @KingDaveth Před 2 lety

      @@Jrock24cantbebeat "WOW BRO!"
      ;D

    • @willuigi64
      @willuigi64 Před 2 lety +1

      @@user-dx8nl9qm9d it’d be speciesist

  • @lunapyrope9683
    @lunapyrope9683 Před 4 lety +925

    The only part of 06’ that’s really canon is establishing Silver as a time cop to be a reoccurring character so he and Blaze can come back for the olympics, and just Silver for forces.

  • @zaybeol
    @zaybeol Před 3 lety +57

    my dad plays sonic but doesn't know about the storyline, so I'm searching for a simplified version for him to understand my love with shadow and silver

    • @whiteroses560
      @whiteroses560 Před měsícem +1

      So random and this comment is so old but I really like your Jaden Yuki pfp :)

    • @zaybeol
      @zaybeol Před měsícem +1

      @@whiteroses560 lmfaoo thanks for making me remember this, i used to be so hyperfixated on sonic but that hyperfixation drifted to yugioh gx like last year XD glad to see another fellow gx fan :D

  • @zero_sakura0036
    @zero_sakura0036 Před 2 lety +21

    Gotta love the original classic sonic games, but for me the two Sonic Adventure games and Sonic Heroes will ALWAYS ALWAYS be my absolute favorite sonic games of all time.

  • @crispycookies3064
    @crispycookies3064 Před 4 lety +458

    Sees 10:47
    My mind:"I'm pissing on the Moon!!!"

    • @novella7735
      @novella7735 Před 4 lety +55

      How do you like that Obama!

    • @crispycookies3064
      @crispycookies3064 Před 4 lety +41

      @@novella7735 I pissed on the mooooon you ediet !!!!!

    • @chasethemaster3440
      @chasethemaster3440 Před 4 lety +6

      Me too haha😅😊🥰👍💯

    • @Spookle_Galaxy
      @Spookle_Galaxy Před 4 lety +3

      Crispy Cookies Exactly xD I can't help it

    • @drfs9341
      @drfs9341 Před 3 lety +4

      DEFCON ZERO I love how he managed to roll the whole word droplets

  • @wisco_simple
    @wisco_simple Před 4 lety +392

    The comics actually do a pretty good job of connecting all the games, also address inconsistencies by introducing a multiverse.
    Sonic absorbs the chaos emeralds when he becomes super

    • @thescaletblur07
      @thescaletblur07 Před 2 lety +9

      He absorbs the *power* of the chaos emeralds

    • @johnnygyro2295
      @johnnygyro2295 Před 2 lety +10

      The Sonic series running on multiverse theory helps me organize things. Plus, we're getting that Sonic Villains fan-film out of it, so that'll be cool.

    • @Lyokoheros-KLPXTV
      @Lyokoheros-KLPXTV Před 2 lety +2

      I have doubts if "introducing a multiverse" would be doing a good job here... I mean it can be done right but at the same time it seems to me that it's usually just a lazy solution which isn't better on solving problems than on causing them...

    • @elderjose9662
      @elderjose9662 Před 2 lety

      "Pretty good job conecting all the games" super Genesis wave everytime?

    • @theantil7
      @theantil7 Před rokem

      I still insist that he puts them up his butt

  • @bluebety
    @bluebety Před 3 lety +46

    *[When you saw the movie but never actually played any sonic game and want to know more]*

    • @fwfusion7
      @fwfusion7 Před 3 lety +3

      i have watched sonic games lol

    • @bluebety
      @bluebety Před 3 lety

      @@fwfusion7 That's an option too. Xd

    • @bluebety
      @bluebety Před 3 lety +1

      @@hanthemaa Right now I think I got to know everything from comics to animes... within two months. But I still don't know the right order of the canon games is. Could you tell it to me if you know it?

    • @amosthescrewball3240
      @amosthescrewball3240 Před 3 lety +1

      You NEVER PLAYED A SONIC GAME??!! *faints and dies from suprise*
      R.I.P. to myself

    • @bluebety
      @bluebety Před 3 lety

      @@amosthescrewball3240 ikr it took me real long to get into sonic. Hope I'll bring you back to live by telling you I already played some of the games.

  • @xLilxth
    @xLilxth Před rokem +14

    Idk why everyone hate 06 so much,yes,the game was awfully hurried up and i personally HATE controls,you get killed most times because of glitching,but the storyline itself is pretty interesting exactly because its so complex,only the ending is a bit eh to me,really unnecessary losing memories and stuff,i think multiple timelines stuff is rly cool thing to dive in

    • @DaDrawBoi
      @DaDrawBoi Před rokem +2

      Think you just said why everyone hates it

    • @UmarKhan34503
      @UmarKhan34503 Před rokem

      Same but I do get the part where people complain about the gameplay not being the best with all the glitches but the actually story itself was a pretty interesting concept I liked

  • @Wildcamfire
    @Wildcamfire Před 4 lety +304

    Sonic 06 sounds like something out of a kingdom hearts game.

    • @user-kf5vf6rh6v
      @user-kf5vf6rh6v Před 3 lety +21

      Mephiles would be an amazing Kingdom Hearts Villain

    • @ahmadkazan217
      @ahmadkazan217 Před 3 lety +5

      I mean they do take down an overpowered dimensional God so yeah.

    • @Gemnist98
      @Gemnist98 Před 3 lety +6

      Well, at least Kingdom Hearts has emotion and doesn’t take itself way too seriously.

    • @phoenixablaze166
      @phoenixablaze166 Před 3 lety +8

      @@Gemnist98 OI, Don’t diss Sonic 06 Shadow. He was written perfectly

    • @Gemnist98
      @Gemnist98 Před 3 lety +5

      @@phoenixablaze166 Well, that’s because Shadow is a character who’s meant to be taken too seriously.

  • @kalikar2able
    @kalikar2able Před 4 lety +663

    "Because apparently all hedgehogs look alike?!"
    That is the face of a man broken by to many racist video game tropes

    • @GoofyPoptart
      @GoofyPoptart Před 4 lety +45

      Even Amy mistook Shadow for Sonic how you going to be in love with Sonic and not know what color Sonic is! 😂

    • @GachaMari
      @GachaMari Před 4 lety +9

      aparently in Sonic blue and black and red are the same color? aswell as green and red.... and... alot of other things are the same in that universe if they are being confused for one another

    • @ElysetheEevee
      @ElysetheEevee Před 4 lety +9

      Maybe they’re literally color blind, though I’m not sure how this would work for things like the Chaos Emeralds and other color-coded nonsense lol. It’s just a really, really stupid oversight.

    • @thehorseformerlywithoutana2522
      @thehorseformerlywithoutana2522 Před 4 lety +3

      It's not racist if it's also true.

    • @jeremiahrodriguez9029
      @jeremiahrodriguez9029 Před 4 lety

      *too many

  • @briansteele3592
    @briansteele3592 Před 2 lety +28

    Honestly this was already helpful, thank you. I would watch a movie in depth video on the lore, but this works just fine, thank you.

  • @rasheedlee1
    @rasheedlee1 Před 2 lety +6

    As a person who's played just about every sonic videogame out there this timeline video was something I never knew I needed.

  • @Gusomilkprod
    @Gusomilkprod Před 4 lety +564

    >Skips Sonic CD
    Ight, imma head out.

    • @Austinfdp
      @Austinfdp Před 4 lety +14

      At the end he predicted you

    • @_.nehemyah._2283
      @_.nehemyah._2283 Před 4 lety +36

      He skipped sonic mania😓 it was the classic time line right before sonic forces

    • @justanotherisekaiprotagoni7293
      @justanotherisekaiprotagoni7293 Před 4 lety +10

      SeatSlippinNEET exactly like he went straight to adventure and forgot Metal Sonic one of the best villains lowkey wtf

    • @Laiser
      @Laiser Před 4 lety +12

      You should have said "I'm outta here" cause that's what he says when you stay still for too long in the game

    • @aminatta7350
      @aminatta7350 Před 4 lety +3

      Honestly sonic cd is simple. Sonic cd is to save any and stop eggman, tails stops eggman and save Taylor and knuckles is getting his sandwich back

  • @pixeldeltubo1529
    @pixeldeltubo1529 Před 4 lety +1799

    The canon stories you missed are Sonic CD and Sonic Mania

    • @Quinnsicott
      @Quinnsicott Před 4 lety +100

      Cd is too complicated, mania is a remake, theres no point. Unless we are talking about encore mode from plus in which case sure.

    • @pixeldeltubo1529
      @pixeldeltubo1529 Před 4 lety +65

      chungo boi well yes but actually no

    • @Quinnsicott
      @Quinnsicott Před 4 lety +15

      @@randyofficial3614 oh yeah good point

    • @gaelguillen2713
      @gaelguillen2713 Před 4 lety +6

      Exactly what I was saying!

    • @thedootappliance5101
      @thedootappliance5101 Před 4 lety +107

      @@jomppidev1845 mania happens after generations when sonic goes back to his timeline. Then classic eggman finds the phantom ruby uses it to go back in time to iconic and new zones. During that sonic finds the chaos emeralds and fights a big metal sonic and other stuff. He finds eggman in some robot spider. Sonic beats it then the phantom ruby sends him to a dimension with a three way battle between king boiled heavy. (The leader of the boiled heavies) and eggman. (Eggman uses the phantom ruby on 6 or 7 regular badniks at the start of the game on them and that's how they become the boiled heavies) sonic is in the 3 way battle too. He defeats them both as super sonic. The phantom ruby goes haywire, returning sonic into his base form then sending the chaos emeralds away then sending sonic into a portal with the phantom ruby. Sonic goes into forces and modern eggman finds the phantom ruby and then the rest of forces story happens

  • @kallistikaleid
    @kallistikaleid Před 2 lety +8

    As a lifelong superfan of Sonic, this was great. I started with Sonic 2, getting to the level of "Super Sonic by Zone 2, ridiculous speedrun finish" levels, and once Sonic 3 came out, I knew I was hooked. Haven't played much of the newer games, but Sonic is still a hero to me, Tails is still a beloved sidekick, and blue(cerulean blue) is still my fanatically favorite colour.
    Just like with eating pizza.....I just say "I loved watching TMNT too much as a kid." 😁

  • @DiamondBatToons
    @DiamondBatToons Před 3 lety +18

    Going back to the whole Sonic Forces event near the end, I've always thought that SEGA should've pulled a "Minecraft: Story Mode" and still have given the Avatar character a gender-neutral name like "Buddy" or "Rook" and an actual voice with lines and such, each voice would depend on what gender and what voice pitch/tone you have chosen for your avatar (again, ALOT like what Minecraft: Story Mode did with Jesse). I feel like it would've given the story more depth and let us get to know our avatar even more. Wouldn't you agree?

    • @Silksper
      @Silksper Před 2 lety

      Agreed, although I am one year late.

  • @HenshinAcademy
    @HenshinAcademy Před 4 lety +832

    How you gonna skip CD ?
    THAT WAS BEFORE 2

    • @Lyric061791
      @Lyric061791 Před 4 lety +77

      Actually, they retconned that and made it take place after Sonic 3 and kunckles so that it could be used as a prequel to Sonic 4. Sonic Mania takes place after CD.

    • @HenshinAcademy
      @HenshinAcademy Před 4 lety +57

      @@Lyric061791 no they didn't retcon it
      they just revisited later for sonic 4 and mania

    • @Lyric061791
      @Lyric061791 Před 4 lety +14

      @@HenshinAcademy I may be misremembering, but I remember the developers of sonic 4 stating that they made Sonic CD take place after Sonic 3 Saga because they weren't sure of where to put it. It was part of the reason Tails was added to the game in the XBLA and phone ports. I may have to do some digging though.

    • @BlazingAuras
      @BlazingAuras Před 4 lety +29

      Christain Whitehead stated cd before 2
      Hence why 1 and cd play similar and how 3k takes place directly after cd
      Plus even if cd is a so called prequel doesn't mean it can't be placed before 2

    • @ZombieClown
      @ZombieClown Před 4 lety +10

      @Non-Ugandan Knuckles The sonic Archie Comics aren't canon to the games

  • @iLLiCiT_XL
    @iLLiCiT_XL Před 4 lety +175

    I always loved that the original series had different versions of robotic Sonic, demonstrating that Robotnik has been learning from his battles with him how to better replicate his abilities.

  • @tunizra
    @tunizra Před 2 lety +4

    17:28 bro really tried to sneak that light reference past us

  • @SHMidlerPlays
    @SHMidlerPlays Před 2 lety +13

    Technically the classic games are a separate timeline and part of the modern timeline, like in Sonic Adventure there is a line where Sonic says that Eggman tricked Knuckles again. Also in Sonic Generations, Sonic and Tails both find the classic stages from the first three games too. Besides those little details, this video is great! 👍🏻

  • @thatyddfc8122
    @thatyddfc8122 Před 4 lety +208

    Me : casually watching the video
    Video : _reaches the "shadow the hedgehog" part_
    Me : *screams internally*

  • @MegamanZ9000
    @MegamanZ9000 Před 4 lety +180

    I stopped playing Sonic for a few years now, but this blue hedgehog has always been part of me. It's good to know how the timeline works!

    • @LittleLexi24
      @LittleLexi24 Před 4 lety +11

      The timelines aren’t “classic” & “modern” tho. The modern games take place directly after the classic games And they didn’t mention Sonic CD, Amy & Metal Sonic’s first game. A second timeline happens after classic sonic meets modern sonic in Sonic Generations, where the timeline splits thanks to time travel and leads into Sonic Mania, Sonic Forces (classic Sonic) & Sonic Mania Plus.

  • @juliuscaesart
    @juliuscaesart Před 3 lety +3

    SA is the greatest installment of Sonic games for me, so many great memories playing as a kid.

  • @PerlVeemo
    @PerlVeemo Před 2 lety +4

    9:10
    "MY SUPER LAZER PISS"

  • @poweroffriendship2.0
    @poweroffriendship2.0 Před 4 lety +195

    *Jim Carrey:* P I N G A S
    *Me:* _Carefully, he's truly a hero..._

  • @RadiantStorm04
    @RadiantStorm04 Před 4 lety +395

    10:48 Eggman shows the world how big his junk was by pissing on the moon

  • @KeonPH
    @KeonPH Před 2 lety +2

    Wow. Shadow’s storyline is dark af. I’m excited for Sonic 3 film!

  • @CharlieWilson1987
    @CharlieWilson1987 Před rokem +4

    Does anyone else agree that a better storyline feature for Sonic lost worlds would be that robotnik really died, and after the adventure Sonic gets the help of Silver to time travel to rescue Eggman, in return for literally saving sonic’s life?

  • @johnholthaus6474
    @johnholthaus6474 Před 4 lety +211

    Classic and modern are the same timeline. “Knuckles! Don’t tell me you’ve been tricked AGAIN.”

    • @iamlordapollo
      @iamlordapollo Před 4 lety +15

      thats sort of true but not really. since generations explicitly states that they're different versions, yet adventure acts as if sonic 1, 2, 3+K, and cd all still happened, the best explanation is that all the events from the classic timeline still happen in the modern timeline off screen. the creators wanted to build off of the lore and maintain past relationships and characters, and remaking those games just to put a new modern sprite in is a stupid idea. so they just made the timeline split to justify both. this is supported by the 3D green hill zone in SA2B existing in the modern timeline with slight differences to it since its 3D. the small differences is what solidifies them as seperate as well.

    • @liamstringer3978
      @liamstringer3978 Před 4 lety +12

      @@iamlordapollo I was always under the impression it was one timeline, with the different character designs simply being a change of art style. Generations even makes it clear that 'Classic Sonic' is just Sonic as a child. It's only in Forces that the implication comes that they're different characters, specifically when Tails refers to him as "that Sonic from another dimension". I wouldn't be too surprised to find out that was either a mistranslation or simply poor choice of wording either

    • @iamlordapollo
      @iamlordapollo Před 4 lety +8

      @@liamstringer3978 your are correct about generations and forces referring to classic in different ways that appear to contradict each other. I think we can all agree that this change was a result of both sides of the elitist fandoms displeasure at linking the two Sonic's together as the same character, and forces establishing them as different was a hasty patch job. What you are describing is actually how I came to the conclusion stated above. If classic is from a different "dimension" but is also Sonic as a child, we have no choice but to accept both facts as true since they come from Canon material. Therefore the only logical conclusion is that modern Sonic as a child had all the same adventures as classic, they just weren't on screen. And we're prob 3d lol
      Edit: I also think it was originally intended to be one timeline, but as time went on, the difference between them became so vast that it stopped making sense, and making them two different characters was the easy solution.

    • @liamstringer3978
      @liamstringer3978 Před 4 lety +8

      @@iamlordapollo that makes sense. You have to wonder how they managed to make the timeline for the adventures of a cartoon hedgehog so bloody complicated! 😂

    • @iamlordapollo
      @iamlordapollo Před 4 lety +1

      @@liamstringer3978 I'm with ya there my friend. If mania 2 comes out and references any of the modern games other than forces all bets are off. My hypothesis is purely based on taking the evidence given to it's natural conclusion since there is no hard proof until we see a younger modern Sonic in chemical plant zone or something. I think converting the original trilogy into 3d would be an awesome prequel game. Green Hill zone in SA2B was janky, but it supports my theory that the two Sonics exist independently while still having similar adventures. If I had to guess, id say the timeline splits after S3&K. Modern goes on to adventure 1, and classic goes to 4 and mania. In fact, I haven't played them, but maybe the advance games shed some light on the subject?

  • @kevinortiz4755
    @kevinortiz4755 Před 4 lety +268

    Just gonna throw this out there:
    Sonic Riders

    • @nihil_holly
      @nihil_holly Před 4 lety +4

      Well I forgot that existed until now

    • @Spajki
      @Spajki Před 4 lety +8

      As far as i know - Sonic Riders series is not canon. It is kinda modern (because of it's style) but it's not in modern canon. I dunno if that makes sense what i just said xD

    • @FueledFromFiction
      @FueledFromFiction Před 4 lety

      God bless

    • @Quinnsicott
      @Quinnsicott Před 4 lety +1

      Just gonna throw this out there:
      No

    • @valordelink
      @valordelink Před 4 lety

      well, all sonic stories are almost self contain, so everything can fit.
      hmm, maybe, now that I think about it, it's not canon because of nights and aiai are there?, silver is in the game too but that just means more time travel.

  • @n0anime342
    @n0anime342 Před 2 lety +1

    I havnt touched sonic in over a decade besides the movie and when you said it gets weirder I was actually shocked. This is nutty

  • @starblaiz1986
    @starblaiz1986 Před 2 lety +1

    "Lord knows, I'm still jamming to the Saturday AM theme even as a grown-ass adult..."
    *wipes a tear*
    I feel so seen... ;-;

  • @NinjaKIngAce
    @NinjaKIngAce Před 4 lety +166

    Oh, so the classic games take place in a different timeline. Riiiiiight. Never mind the fact that Sonic Adventure references both Sonic 3 & Knuckles and Sonic CD.
    Oh, and to answer your question, they do fix the moon. You can clearly see the moon, intact, near the end of Sonic Colors, but it's never explained when or how it was fixed. (Although, it is explained in the Sonic X anime) It's likely that SEGA simply forgot it was broken.

    • @chocobochick5390
      @chocobochick5390 Před 4 lety +1

      well...

    • @tidepoolclipper8657
      @tidepoolclipper8657 Před 4 lety +20

      +Ultimate Gamer
      Two worlds is a blatant shoehorned retcon. Before Sonic Forces, it was NEVER implied that Sonic lived on a different planet once the Japanese continuity was established as the standard continuity. Sega of Japan had EVERY intention to erase the American continuity; which includes Mobius.
      The earlier 3D games made occasional references that implied that the events of the 2D games happened on Earth. Sonic himself was stated to be from Christmas Island in the Japanese continuity; said island is on Earth.

    • @tidepoolclipper8657
      @tidepoolclipper8657 Před 4 lety +11

      +Knuckles
      "Then Sonic Adventure has Sonic on a planet of humans, without an explanation"
      Which should be a big give away the games were always intended to take place on Earth (until Forces's retcon, of course). Little Planet is even referenced outside of Amy's flashback; by a random human, in the Japanese version; as if it was a part of Earth.
      The problem with trying to use Sonic X as a fill-in-gap is that they had to change some details just to fit the concept of two worlds in THAT continuity (let alone things that are never mentioned outside of Sonic X; like the Egg Fort and Sonic racing against formula cars). The fact he was intended to have Madonna as a human girlfriend; until Sega of America shot down the idea, suggests humans were always intended to live alongside Sonic's species.
      The early Dic cartoons were based on the american continuity; meaning they took place on Mobius. Back when the American continuity was considered canon to the North American versions of the games. Said American continuity was eventually exiled.
      Planet Freedom is implied to be a future version of Earth. As in they used to live on the ground; potentially alongside humans, and then moved to the islands in the sky.
      Some of the manga is probably no longer canon or wasn't intended to be canon to the games; especially the one with the early version of Amy Rose.
      Sonic Boom is its own continuity. The fact there aren't many humans in that continuity may have been partially influenced by people complaining about humans existing alongside Sonic (Chris Thorndyke and Elise really provided fuel for those complaints).
      IDW Sonic has mandates slapped all over it; Sega even has a tighter grip on IDW Sonic than they did with Archie Sonic. If the comic writers are required to promote Ilzuka's two worlds retcon, then they don't have much of a choice in the manner. The sonic movie seems like it is desperately trying to make it look like Yuji Naka himself planned for two worlds to exist in the Sonic games or at the very least attempt to justify the sloppy retcon; despite the earlier games going against that idea. It doesn't help Sonic seems a bit out of character in the first movie trailer; suddenly no longer caring about property damage; even though he likely holds his speed back in the games because of that.
      Archie Sonic was originally based on the Sonic SatAm universe. The SatAm elements were gradually reduced over time; with the writers introducing the idea of Mobius being future Earth. With there being alternate reality versions of the planet (Anti-Sonic; eventually Scourge, being from one of those alternate worlds. Also with Robo Robotnik; who becomes modern Eggman). Ironically, Mobius's name was eventually stricken from the comics towards the end and was reduced to just being "Sonic's world". The light reboot further required the writers to make Archie Sonic more akin to the games.

    • @omenicart6510
      @omenicart6510 Před 4 lety +3

      In an SXSW panel last year i think they were asked this question by a fan he said ''in sonic adventure 2 the moon was destroyed in half so why at the beginning of the shadow the hedgehog opening the moon is still intact'' they would use the excuse that the moon was just facing the other direction but when they were live I think Takashi Iizuka was under pressure and simply stated that the team overlooked it. take what i say with a grain of salt but thats what i heard

    • @sub-neogaming3285
      @sub-neogaming3285 Před 4 lety +2

      didnt someone say that the moon just rotated even though that's impossible because it spins with the same time it rotates...

  • @Prodighee
    @Prodighee Před 4 lety +127

    Yeah it's kinda awkward ignoring Sonic CD when there's Amy and Metal Sonic.

    • @hectorcollazo8845
      @hectorcollazo8845 Před 4 lety +15

      I finally got Sonic CD on Steam. Can't believe I overlooked it. It's got a storyline that intrigues me. Plus, I like Amy so I can learn how they met and how she formed a one-sided crush on Sonic.

  • @-Larc-
    @-Larc- Před 2 lety +3

    If you guys are wondering about sonic mania, it happens right before sonic forces. After Classic Sonic destroys Eggman, he goes into a portal with Classic Tails and Classic Knuckles waiting for him outside the deathegg (this is why you don’t see them in forces) which leads the end of the game as a cliffhanger but it continues when you see him in Forces.

  • @LatoyaBaptiste
    @LatoyaBaptiste Před 2 lety +4

    12:46 shadow is trying to figure out what the hell is going on

  • @chunk981
    @chunk981 Před 4 lety +460

    Cooooooooooolll
    Edit: Now I'm not confused
    buuut you skipped Sonic Cd

    • @MegaUnavalible
      @MegaUnavalible Před 4 lety +21

      No matter where they place it people will get mad

    • @mazramm3266
      @mazramm3266 Před 4 lety +11

      And mania!!

    • @cerebros3671
      @cerebros3671 Před 4 lety +47

      Pretty sure it goes 1, CD, 2, 3, Mania(?), etc

    • @boombox2ikik239
      @boombox2ikik239 Před 4 lety +4

      Talon Stephensen yep that’s correct

    • @cerebros3671
      @cerebros3671 Před 4 lety +2

      @Non-Ugandan Knuckles Thanks for the info, man

  • @TheDarkSpectre-dt3cs
    @TheDarkSpectre-dt3cs Před 4 lety +87

    what sonic hears: CHAOS CONTROL!!!
    what i hear: BADASS TIME FREEZE!!!

  • @DynoSkrimisher
    @DynoSkrimisher Před 3 lety +1

    I love how you're trying to not lose it.

  • @justinkevinvalencia7164
    @justinkevinvalencia7164 Před 3 lety +4

    10:11 you good bro you good

  • @TheZeroNeonix
    @TheZeroNeonix Před 4 lety +65

    Sonic Colors: "Tails is under mind control! Oh, no! Will Sonic have to fight his best friend!? Nope. He gets better immediately, and it's like it never happened."
    Sonic Lost World: "Tails has been turned into a mech! Oh, no! Will Sonic have to--nope. He gets better immediately, and it's like it never happened."

    • @tiruliru1189
      @tiruliru1189 Před 3 lety +5

      Character regression at it's finest.

    • @niravtandel8812
      @niravtandel8812 Před 2 lety +3

      You just don’t understand the power of friendship

  • @El_Mince
    @El_Mince Před 3 lety +4

    This is the classic sonic canon:
    Sonic stops Robotnik on south Island. He later meets Amy Rose and the events of sonic CD happen. Sonic then goes to west side island, meets Tails, and explodes the death egg. After, Sonic and Tails see that an island has fallen out of the sky. They rush there with the chaos emeralds but get intercepted by Knuckles. Sonic eventually befriends Knuckles and crashes the death egg once more. In the future, eggman conspires with robotnik and classic sonic and modern sonic meet, creating the split we know today. When classic sonic comes back, the events of mania happen. After battling the hard boiled heavies, Classic sonic is teleported to modern sonic’s world to defeat eggman. When he comes back again, he finds mighty and ray on angel island and defeat the hard boiled heavies once more.

  • @sandrameesala6804
    @sandrameesala6804 Před 4 lety +84

    Sonic Adventure 2 is my favorite game of all time. I love the treasure hunting, especially in space. Treasure hunting in space really made me love astronomy and rekindled my love for the stars!

    • @kaitlintheallmightymemelor2324
      @kaitlintheallmightymemelor2324 Před 2 lety +1

      Mine too.

    • @themoores9817
      @themoores9817 Před 2 lety

      I’m currently playing sonic adventure, sonic adventure 2, sonic generation and I don’t think I’ve ever sworn so much 🤣 I think if I was a character I’d want to be , I would be rouge. Great synopsis for sonic and the games. Congrats

  • @actionjackson4982
    @actionjackson4982 Před 4 lety +71

    I love Sonic Unleashed. I know a lot of ppl didn't, but it was still a good game. It was a refreshing twist.

    • @lam99up74
      @lam99up74 Před 2 lety +1

      Still the best sonic game for me .

    • @harrydavey9884
      @harrydavey9884 Před rokem

      @@lam99up74 better than Sonic 3? 😂

    • @lam99up74
      @lam99up74 Před rokem +1

      @@harrydavey9884 OH YEAH 😂

  • @thatonepersonainp5793
    @thatonepersonainp5793 Před 3 lety +4

    has anyone else ever realized that in modern sonic games you always collect the green chaos emerald first

  • @enrd12
    @enrd12 Před 3 lety +6

    We need a game where sonic, silver, and shadow are all playable like sonic heroes but egg man accidentally creates a superhuman hedgehog using the chaos emeralds and sonic, silver, and shadow’s dna and chaos is his sidekick and the trio goes to defeat him.

  • @brotmeister9559
    @brotmeister9559 Před 4 lety +30

    Having a character called "Dr. Pickle" in a Sonic game must have been really hard on Chris Chan.

  • @jllproductions7446
    @jllproductions7446 Před 4 lety +133

    Technically, Sonic is the iblis trigger. He died causing Elise to cry.

    • @Eman02kG
      @Eman02kG Před 3 lety +10

      @Norbin's gaming channel Sonic was the trigger Mephiles pulled the trigger

    • @Eman02kG
      @Eman02kG Před 3 lety

      @Super Mario Michael 2 nah

    • @altr1k
      @altr1k Před 2 lety +4

      Sonic was the bullet mephiles was the gun

    • @joinme5560
      @joinme5560 Před 2 lety +2

      @@altr1k that's poetic, man

  • @martincheng4939
    @martincheng4939 Před 3 lety +4

    16:01.classic bowser move that killed meh

  • @vukannnn786
    @vukannnn786 Před 2 lety +1

    I love that his name is mario and is covering sonic games

  • @Q1KLT1
    @Q1KLT1 Před 4 lety +144

    It's not the CHAOS emeralds that keep Angel Island in the air, it's the MASTER emerald.

  • @MapleWolf001
    @MapleWolf001 Před 4 lety +35

    “Then there’s team Chaotix they’re just trying to pay rent”
    Me: wow

  • @Dres2000
    @Dres2000 Před 3 lety +3

    17:49 lmao I’ve never thought of it like that XD

  • @darkrow4659
    @darkrow4659 Před 2 lety +1

    I like how this guys called Mario and he's covering Sonic

  • @tyminator8176
    @tyminator8176 Před 4 lety +28

    16:45 His name is Memphis Tennessee, sir

    • @kris8148
      @kris8148 Před 4 lety +2

      And you will respect his name

  • @kwbalance108
    @kwbalance108 Před 4 lety +291

    Missing Sonic CD is unacceptable when it comes to a Sonic the Hedgehog timeline. Why? Because you're missing;
    1 - Sonic's first time traveling adventure.
    2 - Introduction of Amy Rose.
    3 - Introduction of Metal Sonic.
    4 - Introduction of Little Planet that appears one month out of the year over Never Lake (I mean for goodness sake, one of the first games you can play Metal Sonic for several Acts takes place on this planet).
    5 - Introduction of Time Stones (and the only VG appearance of them as Sonic doesn't need to use them in Sonic 4 nor in Mania).
    * Irreverent to the timeline * - The first Sonic game ( *Correct me if I'm wrong* ) that has two different sound tracks.
    I'm sure there's more in Sonic CD that are a first in the timeline. Then not piecing in Mania for a Sept. 2019 video? Come on.

    • @ricky-sanchez
      @ricky-sanchez Před 4 lety +15

      Sonic cd is canon because this is the first game amy rose came from. Sonic mania and forces came after sonic cd and sonic 3. Sonic and knuckles would connect to sonic adventure. The guy who made this video has alot to learn about sonic. Judging from his reactions to the story, he probably knows sonic initially from sonic adventure.

    • @criticalsausage
      @criticalsausage Před 4 lety +2

      Sorry bruhs, the comics show that classic and modern sonic are from different dimensions. The "Amy Rose" that makes its first appearance in Sonic CD is acually named Rosy. The Sonic the hedgehog comics even show her and Amy as two characters on the cover of issue 194.

    • @kwbalance108
      @kwbalance108 Před 4 lety +2

      @@criticalsausage Rosy the Rascal is Amy Rose's nickname from back in Sonic CD (game canon). That is completely unrelated to the "Anti Amy/Rosy the Rascal" in issue 194. That's the Archie comic's addition to the Sonic Universe. Sonic Team had no mention of this anti-Amy this whooooole time and she's only been a thing since that issue came out in, what, 2007? Speaking solely of Archie comic adaptions, In Issue 25, it's clear as day that Amy was the one on the island looking for Sonic, and she's the one who was kidnapped by Metal. If it was Anti-Amy/Rosy the Rascal in CD, she wouldn't have been running after Sonic with loving eyes, she would have been chasing him with a hammer trying to attack him.

    • @criticalsausage
      @criticalsausage Před 4 lety +1

      @@kwbalance108 the games themselves mention that classic sonic is sonic from a different dimension though

    • @kwbalance108
      @kwbalance108 Před 4 lety

      @@criticalsausage I agree with you on that, trust me. It's clear that after Sonic Adventures 2, a whole new dimension is shown..then Sonic Generations came out and showed it as well. I just don't agree that Sonic CD shouldn't be part of this video and the fact that Anti-Amy is just a new addition, but is Amy in Sonic CD is *not* Anti-Amy.

  • @frostthewolf1443
    @frostthewolf1443 Před 3 lety +1

    I like to believe that Sonic Boom takes place in the far past, where all the characters are the ancestors.

  • @ASS-tb3mq
    @ASS-tb3mq Před 2 lety

    Thanks for this I’ve been tryna to figure out the timeline of sonic because all I know is the games and tv shows but I could never fully understand where each character came from

  • @TWOOOOO2
    @TWOOOOO2 Před 4 lety +17

    When a person's name is Mario and talks about Sonic.
    Me: Balanced, as all things should be

  • @RedDragonForce2
    @RedDragonForce2 Před 4 lety +44

    The Moon is explained as "we're seeing the half that didn't get blown up", as in the Moon rotated 90 Degrees so that we see the moon's full shape despite losing it's other half.

  • @goku9569
    @goku9569 Před 3 lety +3

    them: we upload 7 times a week
    me: fancy way of saying daily uploads

  • @richyrich7330
    @richyrich7330 Před 3 lety +2

    So about the story book games its actually confirmed in canon if you remember a scene in sonic generations sonic talks to tails about the worlds in the void (towards the beginning of the game) he metions how this wasnt like old adventures in which one of them he mentions a genie which lightly confirms he fought erazor djinn which as you know is the bad guy in the secret rings which also confirms the black knight game to be canon seeing as how satbk is the sequel to satsr

  • @THERedstoneRocket189
    @THERedstoneRocket189 Před 4 lety +35

    My teacher wanted me to do a presentation over sonic, and it’s due tomorrow so this will help a lot, thank you man

  • @ShadowTheSanta
    @ShadowTheSanta Před 4 lety +30

    Did they ever fix the moon?
    Well yes but actually no.

    • @ItsSilverPride
      @ItsSilverPride Před 4 lety +1

      ShadowTheSanta it was revealed in later games that the gravity of the moon forced the other side to begin facing earth. Which is still bullshit because the moon revolves and we see both sides of it regularly, and the dark side of the moon is simply a myth.

  • @LatoyaBaptiste
    @LatoyaBaptiste Před 2 lety +5

    11:23 Tails Kicks Eggman's a$$

  • @daftsniping8412
    @daftsniping8412 Před 2 lety +1

    You yourself, Make this video unenjoyable

  • @turtledude2334
    @turtledude2334 Před 4 lety +41

    Is no one going to talk about the irony of the guy’s name? His name is Mario Bueno which is literally “Mario Good” in Spanish

  • @henrym4484
    @henrym4484 Před 4 lety +51

    I like how I got a sega ad before the video it knew and I love it

  • @kab6754
    @kab6754 Před měsícem

    Having read Archie Sonic w/o playing the games, it's nice comparing the release of these games to arcs during the run

  • @Crystalluxxx
    @Crystalluxxx Před 2 lety +1

    Sonic 2 movie is awesome!!! brings back my childhood

  • @Alien--Bunny
    @Alien--Bunny Před 4 lety +38

    Timeline:
    Sonic the Hedgehog (1991) - Sonic's Beginnings. Eggman was Robotnik
    Sonic CD - Introduces Amy Rose and Metal Sonic. Came out after Sonic 2, but takes place before Sonic 2
    Sonic the Hedgehog 2 - Super Sonic and Tails are introduce
    Sonic the Hedgehog 3 & Knuckles - Master Emerald, Angel Island and Knuckles are introduce
    (Sonic 3D Blast and Knuckles Chaotix) - Flickies and the Chaotix enter
    Sonic Adventure - Tikal, Big, Chaos, and Chao. Learn a bit of Knuckles past. Robotnik becomes Eggman.
    (Sonic Advance 1-2) Cream and Cheese
    Sonic Adventure 2 - Shadow, Rouge, Gerald Robotnik, Maria introduce. Shadow "dies."
    Sonic Heroes- Chaotix comback, Shadow is alive with amnesia (doesn't care) , Omega is introduced, and Metal Sonic is villian
    (Sonic Battle) - Gerald Robotnik journals are in this game. Gizoid Emerl is introduced. Also Shadow is sick in this game.
    (Sonic Advance 3) G-merl is here
    Shadow The Hedgehog - Shadow cares about amnesia. Black arm aliens are introduced. Shadow learns Black doom is his daddy
    Sonic Rush- Blaze and Eggman Nega are introduced (from another dimension) along with Sol Emeralds
    Sonic 06* (Sonic visited Soleanna because he heard the food is good) - Sliver's here
    (Sonic Rivals) - Silver comes back
    (Sonic Rush Adventure) - Sonic and Tails go to Blaze's dimension
    Sonic Unleashed - Sonic's planet is destroyed and sonic becomes wolfy hedgy during night.
    Sonic Colors - Wisps are here. Eggman makes theme park on Wisp planets.
    Sonic Generations - Eggman messes up timeline with the Time eater. Meet classic Sonic and Tails who is also from another dimension?
    Sonic Lost world - Zeti are here. Also there's a moble game that explains why whisps are on sonic's planet now.
    Sonic Mania - Phantom Ruby is introduce. Explains why classic Sonic is in Forces. Other classic Sonic characters come back, like Mighty from Knuckles Chaotix.
    Sonic Forces - Infinite and your OC is Introduce.

    • @PsychoticaYT
      @PsychoticaYT Před 4 lety +1

      You forgot a few other canon games like SegaSonic the hedgehog and Sonic Pinball

    • @benjamintheraccoon
      @benjamintheraccoon Před 4 lety +4

      @@PsychoticaYT [ahem] I hate to be a pain in the butt, but it's Sonic Spinball.

    • @PsychoticaYT
      @PsychoticaYT Před 4 lety +1

      @@benjamintheraccoon Oof damn you right my bad.

    • @Shinjikeaza
      @Shinjikeaza Před 4 lety +1

      I really hate to be that guy when i say this because you got the timeline pretty much down on lock you missed Sonic Rivals 2

    • @Ebstract12
      @Ebstract12 Před 4 lety

      You forgot Sonic Boom not saying the game was good, the game was indeed trash but unfortunately it's part of the Sonic series.

  • @LittleLexi24
    @LittleLexi24 Před 4 lety +51

    The Sonic two timelines are not “classic” & “modern”. The two timelines are
    The main timeline, Sonic 1 - Forces
    The mania timeline, Sonic 1 - Sonic 3&K normally then Classic Generations splits the timeline into Mania, Forces (Classic) & Mania Plus

    • @LittleLexi24
      @LittleLexi24 Před 2 lety

      @Classic Sonic
      The “mania timeline” is part of the “main timeline” up until the time travel shenanigans after of Generations, in which “classic Sonic” enters white space sometime after Sonic 2 and 3 cause he knows Tails and 3 directly follows 2, and sometime before Sonic Adventure cause he can’t spin dash yet. Sonic Forces also happens for “classic Sonic” in between Sonic Mania and Sonic Mania Plus.
      The “Mania timeline branch” starts after Sonic 3 with Sonic Generations as the point of variation. Dark time energy follows “Classic Sonic” through the portal to his new timeline branch and creates the phantom ruby.
      One day “classic Eggman” discovers a new powerful gem under the ground of Angel Island and sends 5 Egg-robo’s to fetch it, at the same time “classic Tails” picks up the signal and follows it, then the events of Sonic Mania happens. “classic Sonic” gets all the chaos emeralds as the Phantom ruby takes him on an adventure exploring new and old locations (like he did in Sonic Generations). With all the emeralds in hand “classic super Sonic” defeats “classic Eggman” and the phantom king and releases the ruby from their grasp, but the ruby has been guiding him through this journey, it pulls the chaos emeralds out of “classic super Sonic” and performs chaos control, opening a portal through Space and time, leading back to the main timeline that it’s energy was originally from. It goes through the portal, quickly followed by “classic Sonic “, but the seconds difference of them entering the portal turned into months in between them arriving at their destination.
      And so “modern Eggman” finds the phantom ruby on his doorstop (Sonic Forces comic) and the events of Sonic Forces start. Months later Eggman takes over and omega gets destroyed by infinite who now welds the phantom ruby, tails goes to fix him but is attacked by chaos, and that moment is when classic Sonic finally reaches the end of the portal, months after the ruby. Then Sonic Forces ends with the ruby and “classic Sonic” disappearing.
      “Classic Sonic” comes through a portal back to his timeline, the phantom ruby follows, the phantom king and the hard boiled heavy’s get revived, “classic Sonic” works with mighty and ray again (who he met in SegaSonic the Hedgehog), he goes on a very similar adventure, defeats “classic Eggman” again, but in the end the phantom ruby overloads the systems, Sonic and friends get out safely, but poor Eggman gets gets sucked up with his base, and the whole timeline is possibly consumed, but Official classic Sonic comics were made to following the Sonic Mania gang, so everybody’s (even Eggman, and the heavy king) end up being fine. Maybe the timeline had the phantom ruby removed from it.
      Now some of this relies on theory’s, but it makes sense and I dont know why I’d never heard this theory. The Time-eater was made of dark time energy, it could distort time and can create portals very similar to the phantom ruby, which distorts space throughout Sonic Mania and Sonic Forces. So I believe after it gets defeated in Sonic Generations, some of it’s energy remains and follows “classic Sonic” to his new timeline and grows it’s energy on Angel Island, a place with dirt nourished by the master emerald. I believe the “dark time energy” wanted revenge on the two Sonics that destroyed it’s body, so it puts pawns in motion to destroy them both by leading “classic Sonic” back to the “main timeline” where the other Sonic resided, but in the end good always triumphs evil, and it probably didn’t account for the “avatar” helping Sonic.
      This was a lot of text…. Sorry, lol. I know and think way too much about Sonic Mania and Sonic Forces….

    • @johnnygyro2295
      @johnnygyro2295 Před 2 lety +3

      Generations causing a split similar to Dragon Ball's Android Saga makes sense to me.

  • @danielsmith9130
    @danielsmith9130 Před 2 lety

    "Bonus points for pulling it off twice in the same game." 😄 🤣

  • @HelloHSR
    @HelloHSR Před rokem

    "Because, apparently, all hedgehogs look the same"
    *Proceeds to blow up every building dedicated to Sega*

  • @Junior4466
    @Junior4466 Před 4 lety +11

    The Shadow the hedgehog game seems like it was a classic and revolutionary game. I’ve never heard of it having choices and multiples endings

  • @legoangrybirds8630
    @legoangrybirds8630 Před 4 lety +13

    The fact of knuckles being gullible in the sonic games makes sense when you watch sonic boom

  • @randomfandom6167
    @randomfandom6167 Před 3 lety

    I love the Sonic’s Adventure Part of The Timeline

  • @xavierreborn679
    @xavierreborn679 Před rokem

    "Elise uses the chaos emeralds and this bullshit🤦" 😂😂😂😂 that part had me rolling bro because it's too factual 😂😂😭🤣

  • @sophiabutler1707
    @sophiabutler1707 Před 4 lety +44

    “Sonic Generations is a game about trying to go back to Sonic’s time after Eggman took away the day he was born”
    Wait is this plot just a rip-off of Shrek Forever After?

    • @guy1774
      @guy1774 Před 4 lety +1

      No. I don't know I never saw that movie

    • @sophiabutler1707
      @sophiabutler1707 Před 4 lety +2

      Shockerlighting 224 you should.

    • @guy1774
      @guy1774 Před 4 lety +1

      @@sophiabutler1707 ok

    • @magnumopus7569
      @magnumopus7569 Před 4 lety

      @@guy1774 it was better than the third one

  • @leafmario4319
    @leafmario4319 Před 4 lety +10

    15:09 when i first beat the game, i thought this meant he was saying goodbye to his old self and can now move on

  • @PeterDarker92
    @PeterDarker92 Před 3 lety

    Yo the host here is hilarious lmao. Great video

  • @milcool2497
    @milcool2497 Před 3 lety +2

    I remember watching this when it had been out for like a week

  • @topsecret770
    @topsecret770 Před 4 lety +165

    Wait, did you just call Silver Sonic..."Mecha Sonic" no. Mecha Sonic is from Sonic 3, Silver Sonic is from Sonic 2. Metal Sonic is from CD.

    • @niwi7642
      @niwi7642 Před 4 lety +4

      Robo Sonic is the one from Sonic 2
      Silversonic is from the Gamegear games

    • @nintenmother6375
      @nintenmother6375 Před 4 lety +4

      Ni Wi his name is really silver sonic

    • @yakkowarner20
      @yakkowarner20 Před 4 lety +2

      I was about to type this too, glad I looked through the comments first.

    • @Wolfric_Rogers
      @Wolfric_Rogers Před 4 lety +2

      @@niwi7642, they are both Silver Sonic, there are several different versions of Silver Sonic

    • @darkskull1982
      @darkskull1982 Před 4 lety +8

      Actually, the one from Sonic 2 is originally named "Mecha Sonic" in Japan. The comics gave him the name Silver Sonic in order to not confuse him with the one from 3&K and everyone just went with it.
      Personally, I think Robo Sonic is a much better name for him.

  • @megalampada2372
    @megalampada2372 Před 4 lety +10

    Police: Sees shadow
    Also police: It'S SoNIc!1!111!

  • @SuperRvince
    @SuperRvince Před 3 lety +1

    "By blowing up half of the moon"
    My brain: "By pissing on the moon"

  • @chrissysonicutdrloz
    @chrissysonicutdrloz Před rokem +1

    Claims to like Sonic and understand the story, proceeds to make fun of every game and every character.

  • @ProtoSkullX1
    @ProtoSkullX1 Před 4 lety +30

    I’m going to have to say that in between sonic 3 and knuckles and sonic adventure they do intertwine because sonic refers to knuckles being tricked by eggman as if he’s already been tricked before therefore the classic era and the beginning of the modern era Are in the same universe

    • @LittleLexi24
      @LittleLexi24 Před 4 lety +1

      isaac january
      I know right, Sonic Adventure is after Sonic 3 and Sonic & Knuckles

    • @lilAndrix
      @lilAndrix Před 4 lety +2

      EXACTLY

    • @ub3rfr3nzy94
      @ub3rfr3nzy94 Před 3 lety

      The modern era is post sonic 06. The reboot set sonic in a new canon after shadow the hedgehog's ending. The new canon is garbage. They should have realised with how bad 06 was it would have been better to pretend ther reboot didn't happen and set the next game after the events of shadow the hedgehog. Oh well, SEGA has been run by idiots for the past 15 years, that's why their company is dying and they're going to be bought by a bigger company sooner or later.

  • @personofpeace3046
    @personofpeace3046 Před 4 lety +18

    Forgot to mention Tails learning to use his tails to go faster and keep up with Sonic in the early days.

  • @weirdoonatabel
    @weirdoonatabel Před rokem +2

    The start of modern timeline 5:11

  • @CFEntertainment1
    @CFEntertainment1 Před 3 lety

    interesting video i really enjoyed it!

  • @cookieface127
    @cookieface127 Před 4 lety +34

    Time to be original. But what about Sonic mania, which has the phantom Ruby in it?

    • @HenshinAcademy
      @HenshinAcademy Před 4 lety +1

      yo that's true!
      forces and mania are connected via the phantom ruby
      and that connects to mania plus and the shorts

    • @AbrasiveSage
      @AbrasiveSage Před 4 lety

      In the main timeline, Sonic Mania never happened, instead Sonic 4 happened.
      Sonic Mania is in another timeline that crossed with the main timeline.

    • @simondelgado339
      @simondelgado339 Před 4 lety

      @@AbrasiveSage and thats why in forces they say clasic sonic is from another dimention, they mean he is from another timeline