16kms from a major cbd and I get 35/7 on a good day. Internet speeds are a joke here - you just have to look where we sit on the global rankings! ....and my plan is about to go up in price!
As mattyb says, just look at the global rankings. Even if you're lucky enough to be on fibre the upstream is a joke; cut from 500mbps to 50! How will we ever offer anything innovative online without fast upstream?
87% of houses have fibre to the home with the standard plan is 300/100 or you can get 1000/500 like I have or if your in a certain part of major cities you can get 2000/2000, 4000/4000 or 8000/8000….. pricing is around 75-80$ for the 300 Mbps plan
Agreat handy video, just the one I'VE been looking for, having NBN in tomorrow to do the change over and as a retired electrician I had a 1000 questions and they have nearly all been answered here thank you
Awesome video my friend. Just about to have this work done also and it was great to see how it is done. looks like I need to do some pre-work to ensure the fibre inside the house is routed where I want it.
Great video thank you im excitedd for my upgrade in 2 days i just hope they can do it before the end of the day. Orange rope is there mines just going on the other side
Great video and good information. I'm looking to move back to Australia and one of the things I will have to get use to is the slower internet speeds! I will definitely check my potential home for this upgrade. You're upgraded speeds is still slower than my current speeds but shouldnt be too bad 😁
Thanks for posting this video and the for commentary. My install is schedule for today and I've received almost no information as to what's involved. I'm confident my FTTP upgrade is about as simple as it gets. Hopefully I don't get stuffed around with multiple visits because someone only does half a job.
@@allelectricalau they've cancelled on me twice (with no cancellation sent). I'm currently waiting for my third appointment. Like you, I ran rope and conduit to my network gear, hoping for a fast install on the day.
Where i live it’s mainly non experienced installers who have completed some course, one told me they get $300 per install, need 3 per day to make it pay…
according to NBN, for the public health and safety, when you are hauling the cable, you need to barricade all the working areas with cones and tiger tiles. big defect when the supervisor comes on site. they will make it very big issue for you
I see your upload speed is a little slower than with the old connection. That surprises me as a lot of users need higher upload speed to upload videos to CZcams etc. You haven't really gained anything with the upload speed and your previous download speed at around 100Mbps was pretty good for most usage: you won't really notice much difference with the download speed as at 100Mbps most stuff would load almost immediately anyway. Playing games of course might be an advantage.
A question for you, did you notice if they cleaned the fibre connectors before they got plugged in? 🤔 I see you are getting a ping of 9ms but I get that on FTTN with speeds of around 105/23 so it should be much lower like about 3ms. Thanks for the video, I'm due for upgrade in a few days, hope they don't cancel on me 😜
Hey mate no they didn't clean the fibre during the cleaver stage. I ended up buying the sc connecter cleaning pen and cleaned it myself after they left.
Those AFL connectors putting fusion splicers on the shelf, it's funny how these companies take advantage of the resident not knowing anything about acceptance loss. I figured you lost about minimum .4 dB possibly .6, the contamination was all over plus a good tech would have cleaned out the bulkhead before insertion, regardless. If he had burned on pigtails, could have been less loss, around .2dB, it depends on what kind of upload application you are needing at the residence, so for every 1dB loss is 20%. I did not see what the power meter was reading but a good tech would have had OTDR and calculated all the loss for you to the NBN. Some facilities would never allow those AFL connectors, it's residential so, the hell do they know, If you are paying for that drop, 100% I am sure you not getting the full benefit of that SM.
I agree with you mate i will be getting the join outside fusion spliced with the manufacturer pigtale to reduce the loss. It kept dropping out due to contamination of the connector endfaces. The click clean pen fixed most of it still can be improved.
What's your honest estimate of all the cost to go from 100 down to 223 down? eg: as an Electrician what would you have charged to install that conduit and what was the RSP plan increase change per month?
It's crazy to me how many people in Australia (myself included) are still not using full fibre. In my case it's only Fibre to the Node and I'm way too far from the Node to get speeds beyond what ADSL 2 was giving. I was complaining about my internet speed back in 2014 and 10 years later it's barely any better than it was.
Original Labour plan was Fibre to the Premises all the way. Then Liberal got elected and it changed to FTTC because FTTP will cost too much according to them. Forward to 2023, pretty sure it is costing much more now to upgrade most household to FTTP.
@@gerardy7500that’s why I’m never voting LNP again. It’s stifled growth, productivity and hours of pain uploading documents. Sometimes my uploads take days! We all deserve fibre and better upload speeds.
Unfortunately if you live in a S.A housing trust block of units they run it down the driveway and just leave the copper wiring and connect to that instead to the unit.
@@allelectricalau is there a way i can force Telstra or nbn to do my FTTP upgrade? As Telstra (my ISP) won't change my plan without me having a drivers licence or passport
Hello. I am going to do the same. I want to install my NTD on a brick wall so not quite as easy! I was ondering how big of a hole I need for the fibre cable to come through? Is the green connector pre - terminated please? Thanks!
Ouch, 26ms ping on FTTP, Just waiting for FTTP activation my physical install was finished an hour ago. My FTTN ping was 8ms, hoping FTTP ping is better than that (gamer household)
Depends on the contractor to a large extent; the blokes who did our place just before Christmas were happy to grub around under the house to run the fibre all the way over to our home office!
It's weird that only those with fibre to the curb get free upgrade. Most are on hybrid fibre nbn which, I heard, is mostly copper as they use coax cables which were installed for cable tv decades ago for cable tv along poles on the streets. It's like a scam.
It was meant to be early 2023, but I think realistically they're looking at 2025 now. They've started phasing out copper lines so hopefully sooner than later
I have NBN it’s a joke have the same coaxial cable installed by Telstra 25yrs ago, Told by NBN that I’m a happy Customer, project that’s blown out $85 billion & only 39% Aussie have fibre to the home, Remember Rudd coming out saying it will cost each Aussie Taxpayer $14k to fund, also I approached NBN to get fibre to my premise, under their “Business Segment” quoted, No lie $36000 because the closet DJL Fibre Joint was 1.3 Kilometres away, what a joke waste of money.
What do you guys think... Are we still behind the times when it comes to internet speeds in Australia?
I think you should let the man do his job :P Great Video by the way. I won't be getting Fibre till 2025 :(
@fyreblade1262 haha I did ask him and he was all for it and wanted the link for the video 🤣
16kms from a major cbd and I get 35/7 on a good day. Internet speeds are a joke here - you just have to look where we sit on the global rankings! ....and my plan is about to go up in price!
I just got the FTTP upgrade from FTTN here in Perth, now on the 1000/50 plan. Speeds are insane.
As mattyb says, just look at the global rankings.
Even if you're lucky enough to be on fibre the upstream is a joke; cut from 500mbps to 50!
How will we ever offer anything innovative online without fast upstream?
Great video mate !! Good to see the whole process !
Nice. Good amount of details. Thanks for sharing.
Great video , hate it when isps cap the upload 🏃🏃🏃 , but great upgrade
From NZ - welcome to glorious fibre to the house speeds. Great work getting the Fibre run through the house as close as possible to the router too!
Thank you mate! I did my best. Is this setup similar to Nz? What do they do different?
87% of houses have fibre to the home with the standard plan is 300/100 or you can get 1000/500 like I have or if your in a certain part of major cities you can get 2000/2000, 4000/4000 or 8000/8000….. pricing is around 75-80$ for the 300 Mbps plan
@@magesnz the nz 300/100 plans also have a 10percent margin so in fact get 330 down 110up. In the speedtest
Agreat handy video, just the one I'VE been looking for, having NBN in tomorrow to do the change over and as a retired electrician I had a 1000 questions and they have nearly all been answered here thank you
Awesome video my friend. Just about to have this work done also and it was great to see how it is done. looks like I need to do some pre-work to ensure the fibre inside the house is routed where I want it.
the contractor looks like friendly and professional.
He was and was nice enough to let me film him 👍
This should be a mandatory video for TPG Australia.!!!
Great video I was wondering how people were getting this done
Thank you👍
Very interesting to see this. It will be a struggle to stop the NBN molesting my walls with that external box.
Great video thank you im excitedd for my upgrade in 2 days i just hope they can do it before the end of the day. Orange rope is there mines just going on the other side
Nice mate how did it go?
@@allelectricalau 2-3 hours he was done and i was connected
Great video and good information. I'm looking to move back to Australia and one of the things I will have to get use to is the slower internet speeds! I will definitely check my potential home for this upgrade. You're upgraded speeds is still slower than my current speeds but shouldnt be too bad 😁
Best of luck!
Probably more expensive too
Thanks for posting this video and the for commentary. My install is schedule for today and I've received almost no information as to what's involved. I'm confident my FTTP upgrade is about as simple as it gets. Hopefully I don't get stuffed around with multiple visits because someone only does half a job.
Good luck! They cancelled on me once 🤣
@@allelectricalau they've cancelled on me twice (with no cancellation sent). I'm currently waiting for my third appointment.
Like you, I ran rope and conduit to my network gear, hoping for a fast install on the day.
Where i live it’s mainly non experienced installers who have completed some course, one told me they get $300 per install, need 3 per day to make it pay…
There is also a maximum amount fibre can bend before it breaks, it's not just to make it easier
according to NBN, for the public health and safety, when you are hauling the cable, you need to barricade all the working areas with cones and tiger tiles. big defect when the supervisor comes on site. they will make it very big issue for you
I can't believe that your NBN provided uostreams are only 25mbit on a 250mbit plan. In NZ and the US they're symmetrical for most ISPs.
I see your upload speed is a little slower than with the old connection. That surprises me as a lot of users need higher upload speed to upload videos to CZcams etc. You haven't really gained anything with the upload speed and your previous download speed at around 100Mbps was pretty good for most usage: you won't really notice much difference with the download speed as at 100Mbps most stuff would load almost immediately anyway. Playing games of course might be an advantage.
Thats true John but lucky I like my games 🎮 👍
Your upstream is still capped at 20mbps....
A question for you, did you notice if they cleaned the fibre connectors before they got plugged in? 🤔
I see you are getting a ping of 9ms but I get that on FTTN with speeds of around 105/23 so it should be much lower like about 3ms. Thanks for the video, I'm due for upgrade in a few days, hope they don't cancel on me 😜
Hey mate no they didn't clean the fibre during the cleaver stage. I ended up buying the sc connecter cleaning pen and cleaned it myself after they left.
Those AFL connectors putting fusion splicers on the shelf, it's funny how these companies take advantage of the resident not knowing
anything about acceptance loss. I figured you lost about minimum .4 dB possibly .6, the contamination was all over plus a good tech would have
cleaned out the bulkhead before insertion, regardless. If he had burned on pigtails, could have been less loss, around .2dB, it depends on what kind of upload application you are needing at the residence, so for every 1dB loss is 20%. I did not see what the power meter was reading but
a good tech would have had OTDR and calculated all the loss for you to the NBN. Some facilities would never allow those AFL connectors, it's residential so, the hell do they know, If you are paying for that drop, 100% I am sure you not getting the full benefit of that SM.
I agree with you mate i will be getting the join outside fusion spliced with the manufacturer pigtale to reduce the loss. It kept dropping out due to contamination of the connector endfaces. The click clean pen fixed most of it still can be improved.
What's your honest estimate of all the cost to go from 100 down to 223 down? eg: as an Electrician what would you have charged to install that conduit and what was the RSP plan increase change per month?
It's crazy to me how many people in Australia (myself included) are still not using full fibre. In my case it's only Fibre to the Node and I'm way too far from the Node to get speeds beyond what ADSL 2 was giving. I was complaining about my internet speed back in 2014 and 10 years later it's barely any better than it was.
It has improved, but not much. We have 3rd world internet 😂
That ping still looks high for fibre id be raising a fault.. 26 ping on fibre is too high
All good mate its about 6 now.
About 10 years too late. I'm still waiting.. waiting.. endless waiting for FTTP....
We are a bit slow in Aus, that's for sure!
Original Labour plan was Fibre to the Premises all the way. Then Liberal got elected and it changed to FTTC because FTTP will cost too much according to them. Forward to 2023, pretty sure it is costing much more now to upgrade most household to FTTP.
@@gerardy7500 my FTTP fibre upgrade is now "soon" ...
@@gerardy7500plus also forcing NBN to buy up the Telstra and Optus cable networks. Optus's one being scrapped of course
@@gerardy7500that’s why I’m never voting LNP again. It’s stifled growth, productivity and hours of pain uploading documents. Sometimes my uploads take days! We all deserve fibre and better upload speeds.
Unfortunately if you live in a S.A housing trust block of units they run it down the driveway and just leave the copper wiring and connect to that instead to the unit.
Those speeds are better than my FTTN NBN connection
The node might be a fair distance from your house
@@allelectricalau is there a way i can force Telstra or nbn to do my FTTP upgrade? As Telstra (my ISP) won't change my plan without me having a drivers licence or passport
Hello. I am going to do the same. I want to install my NTD on a brick wall so not quite as easy! I was ondering how big of a hole I need for the fibre cable to come through? Is the green connector pre - terminated please? Thanks!
Ouch, 26ms ping on FTTP, Just waiting for FTTP activation my physical install was finished an hour ago. My FTTN ping was 8ms, hoping FTTP ping is better than that (gamer household)
was it better?
@@MrBrutalFrosty 2ms :)
Drawstring will go rotten by the time they get to pull the new cable...waiting...waiting....
did you ask if they would have done this for you>?
They would of just put the box on the other side of the wall. I'm pretty sure they ask you to hire another contractor if you want the box elsewhere
Depends on the contractor to a large extent; the blokes who did our place just before Christmas were happy to grub around under the house to run the fibre all the way over to our home office!
Hi can the NTD box be placed where the existing phone port inside the house?
Yes provider the fibre is ran there
If it was up to speed, none of us would be upgrading !!!
the ping is a little high
It's weird that only those with fibre to the curb get free upgrade. Most are on hybrid fibre nbn which, I heard, is mostly copper as they use coax cables which were installed for cable tv decades ago for cable tv along poles on the streets. It's like a scam.
I've just been free upgraded from fttn to fttp. Now for activation!
@@mozreactor Got 5G internet last week. Woowooowow!
Be careful with 5G, most plans capped at 150mbps@@artyfhartie2269
im still on adsl 2 :(
It does the job. Any news when fibre would be rolled out?
It was meant to be early 2023, but I think realistically they're looking at 2025 now. They've started phasing out copper lines so hopefully sooner than later
@fingerFlipUk better late than never! Keep checking every now and again on the nbn website for updates. Good luck mate 👍
OMG!
I have NBN it’s a joke have the same coaxial cable installed by Telstra 25yrs ago, Told by NBN that I’m a happy Customer, project that’s blown out $85 billion & only 39% Aussie have fibre to the home, Remember Rudd coming out saying it will cost each Aussie Taxpayer $14k to fund, also I approached NBN to get fibre to my premise, under their “Business Segment” quoted, No lie $36000 because the closet DJL Fibre Joint was 1.3 Kilometres away, what a joke waste of money.
I 100% agree mate
P r o m o S M 😀
Really good explanation thanks
Appreciated!