FTTP Fibre Internet - How To Relocate Router - Super Quick Fiber Broadband
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- čas přidán 9. 12. 2021
- Hi, in this video today we move a router on a newly installed Fibre broadband install. My brother was unable to have the setup were he required it on the install due to the work involved. He needed it where his wired network already exists, so we are going to have to run a Category 6 UTP cable internally from the 3rd floor to the ground floor. Hopefully you will find the video interesting in the different ways to run a cable, terminating a RJ45 plug and the Fibre (Fiber Internet) set up. The speeds are amazing and at long last my brother will now have a fully usable internet connection.
Remember that this is just for entertainment and I am not an expert in these repairs. The processes in the video may not be the best way, the correct way or the safest way to fix these things.
Many thanks, Vince. - Jak na to + styl
What a strange breed we are :-) People who love making and people who love watching videos on pulling bits of cable through floors and walls :-) In my life I have pulled thousands of feet of CAT and Power cable, yet I never stop learning new tricks or how to get it wrong by watching other people do it. I really enjoyed this. I never crimp, though. I always punch down.
Great video Vince. Thanks for making this and your older videos. I have cabled every room in my 1890 house to a patch panel in the stairwell using similar techniques. Fiddly but worth it.
Excellent, I have rewired my new house (dad's old house) following your old videos from a few years ago, with cat6 cables to 12 new sockets...just in case I needed them......
Guess what? I'm getting full fibre installed next week!! I thank you for your excellent knowledge and I'm glad I found your channel when I was renovating my dad's old house. When the guy comes in to set up the fibre and says, this looks ok, I'll just reply, thank my mate Vince!
Cheers.
It’s nice to see BT doing what virgin have done with their routers for telephones, it’s so useful when you need a phone socket that’s not in the wall
Yeah it's nice, I think they're doing it now cause the plan for 2025 is for all phones to be digital voice and finally deactivating the old phone system, so either they're going to give a phone to IP adaptor for older customers to plug their current phones into their current older routers via VoIP, new VoIP phones, or offer more of these newer routers to customers with the telephone socket so they can plug in whatever older style phone they like and get the same functionality.
Customers who only have phone plans and no internet will be offered a competitive price internet plan so they can continue using their old phones with a new router as far as I know.
I think it’s great to run the cables out of sight. No company will do that on initial installation and it’s a good idea to plan a route yourself. I think we have 2 small cable runs that I cannot hide, but I do live in a turn of the century house.
Our daughters partner has done the same as your brother but did manage to get the openreach engineer to fit the termination in the loft where he can get a connection down to his under stair comm’s room!
Great instructional, I’m a joiner and fishing cables for first fix electrics is such a pain!
I’d love a similar video of a CCTV set up from scratch. How to run the cables/ install cameras. I bet your telecom engineering skills would come in handy for that! Quality as always mate
I just recently watched your old Mr Telephone videos again and was pleased to see another similar one. Great work as usual Vince!
Thanks for the change in place Vince. I like your usual fixes but when I see something different I get real excited
Wow, you both made that look easy! Huge amount of work to route a cable!
It was Chris!!! I pulled a muscle in my belly trying to fish the rod through that tiny access hole in the upstairs bathroom!!!! But at least it is there forever now and hopefully will give hassle free service 👍👍
Rest them fingers bro 🤣
Great video, I got my ethernet cable run done almost a year ago, some of it going outdoors, using cat6e outdoor cable going through the roof, in preperation for fiber and just last week they install an access point across the street!
Wow, I am incredibly impressed with your conduit hiding skills! Envious of neat and complete network installation.
Just what I needed to see. Having Ultrafast installed this week and will probably need to do exactly what you’ve shown.
Thanks 🙏
Thanks for your video. We had fibre fitted last month and I didn’t realise the hub had built in DECT?! Now I can get rid of one extra thing plugged into the wall 😁👍🏻
I have been watching you for a long time and I love this kind of content but honestly we love all your content thank you for what you do I have learned so much
Hey Vince Just wanted to wish you a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year cheers for the all the awesome videos.
Ahhh a classic my mate vince video...loved it, thanks to your videos i was able to help my friends with their VDSL and nte faceplates
wow My Mate Vince that was awsome and amazing keep up the good work up and hope to see more of it
Nice video. Had mine installed today and BT engineer was crap. Put the modem as far away from our living room as he could’ve. I now need to find a fibre extension and move the modem.
Wow, well done. I'd be daunted by that and we're having BT FTTP fitted in a few days. I have that router in its box on my couch waiting until the engineer arrives. Fortunately for us, I think we can use the hole the VirginMedia cable is being removed from.
Cool to see how houses are built in other countries, also there is some crazy internet speeds!
Loved this.. We went and looked at our new house today and it's got an openreach fibre connection AND a Hyperoptic (1gb) router in the living room cupboard. Can't wait to investigate it further. 😊
Lucky you!!! Fibre is not an option here. Insane speeds 👍👍👍👍
Great video mate. I know how to do all of this however it was a nice video to watch the process there
I don't have fiber in my area, but man I wish I did. Enjoyed following along with you.
Vince love all your videos an I would love to see more videos like this because I live in America an love 🙈 ng the difference between the two keep up the great work
I was a big fan of your channel from when I was in SG, I am now in the UK and I use BT as well.. bit spooky that.. I would say that at this point anything above 100mbps is a luxury for most, and not a necessity.. so would be good to avoid the wasted expense and ewaste for buying a new switch.. (I use Powerline and am happy with 30 mbps :D 🙊)
Great Work from Dublin Ireland 🇮🇪 ☘️
Should be having my BT Fibre Gigabit installed Wednesday. Can't wait now I'v seen this.
Nice video! Loved the cabling work :) I have exactly the same fttp bt 920 down 115 up. How ever, just a little fyi: If you are new to bt's fttp and finding your bt router isnt matching the advertised speeds, this is because the new bt home hub maybe locked to their old adsl firmware and needs a little update from bt to unlock its full potential for fttp so you get those juicy fttp speeds. This is what i had to do! Double check with bt if this is case becaues you certainly don't want to go through with all that effort only to find out it was bt fault and not your own wiring.
That's really useful. My Virgin router is in the hall. My office is two floors up in the loft extension . My ideal setup would be cabled rather than the homeplug option I'm using at the moment. It means braving the wall cavity though 😲
Merry Christmas Vince and it is me Henry I watch your videos every day
back to the old school! love it. 👍 mr.📞
Good work. I just had to do the same for my BT Fibre installation.
I had the same issue with the ONT being in the opposite side of the house than the network rack. I future-futre proofed the setup by running a armored single mode APC fiber from the termination point (that grey box on the right) down to the network rack and then installed the ONT (that white box on the left) in the network rack. Good times, all UPS backed up too and no random power network device in the fat far away
Had the same issue when I got FTTP - how to shift the data quick enough. Being in a more modern house I opted to go through the hallow walls and under the bath. Still took months of planning and a full weekend to do it. Funnily enough, I wired the RJ45 plugs using a really old video of yours - worked first time.
Does FTTP stand for Fiber To The Pole?
@@thatdude5104 fibre to the premises
Lots of useful information ( including a method for lifting a tongue n groove floorboard ) Cheers 😊
this kinda content is such a throwback
I need to do something like this really soon. Awesome
I recently went on fibre and the Openreach engineer asked me where I wanted the router, I told him downstairs and he put it there, he ran an outside cable down the outer wall in to my living room, put the box next to one of my electrical plug sockets, job done. None of this ripping up floor boards etc, the guy that did your fibre was lazy and did the easy option.
The guy who did this was *really* lazy. The whole point of that grey CSP box is to be mounted outside so an engineer can split the fibre and test connection both ways in the future without needing access to the customer's house. I'd be surprised if he didn't get into a bit of trouble for making such a mess of it.
It is a large job cabling up a standard home with cat5/6 if you want a structured cabling system. What you might consider is using a 5 GHz link to bridge the router to your switch if the cable run would be very disruptive to install it. The latest 5 GHz link kit would certainly run up to 100 Bits/s and you can use clean spectrum for it.
As an Openreach engineer myself, that FTTP installation was crap. That grey box is the CSP, and is an external box which should only ever be installed just above ground level on the outside wall. If it was installed there at your brother's request, the least they could have done is use an internal version or hidden it in that loft void. They also didn't even run the fibre in and out of it properly, taking it in and out of the wrong ports underneath, etc. Considering he already had Ethernet cables all around the house, what they could have done instead is install the ONT (the white Openreach modem) next to any existing ethernet socket in the house, and then you could have used that to connect back to the BT hub under the stairs instead of you having to rip the house apart.
What a load of bollocks
@@Ymma58 how so? Please explain how you understand this product more than someone who has been working with it ever since it was first trialled for residential customers over a decade ago? Or perhaps you're the engineer or contractor who half-arsed this installation and is on the defensive?
Bet you've been one of them engineers who couldn't do copper and been swapping pairs all the way long, now gone over to the FTTP and acting all smart
@@Ymma58 not at all, I was the broadband engineer back when each patch only had one broadband engineer nearly 20 years ago. I was one of those who made sure they were on 0.9 copper all the way if possible, made sure every length of cable the line used had an AC balance of 60dB or better, no blue beans anywhere causing H/R faults, made sure the WB noise was lower than -50 to avoid crosstalk, made sure there was no REIN or SHINE with my 444, and so on. It was usually contractors who pinched pairs or installed the NTE in the cab to get an LTOK, or sometimes it was older jointers who understood nothing but a 9083 and wanted an easy clear rather than delving into an unbalanced cable fault that they couldn't get their head around. I was one of the engineers who picked up the pieces after there's already been several previous repair visits from engineers like yourself where nothing was improved and someone just did a PQ test in the cab. 👍
@@danbrittain9530*white beans
I did something similar where I needed my internet on the other side of the house in an extension. I ended up buying a very long run of pre terminated multi mode OM3 fibre and just pulling it instead, which is good up to I believe at least 100Gbps. Figured I would future proof it and it was much cheaper than CAT6e (this was surprising to me as I always thought the opposite).
Wow my mate vince is back .a legend..🙂
Thanks for this. You always explain things in a way I can understand.
I'm thinking of switching to BT when my virgin contract ends. It is almost as fast, it's fibre to the premises, and it is two thirds the monthly cost.
BTs FTTP is way faster than virgins aged coax network
@@BakedPrawns I get 1140Mbps down and 55 up on gig1 from virgin, It hits the full 950mbps over a gigabit ethernet port to my PS5, on the latency side of things bt probably wins.
What's with this channel auto modding my posts
This makes me happy that Virgin haven't bothered to provide fibre in my area but BT are starting to now. Not sure if they are FTTP or FTTC though.
Firstly thanks for the video Vince I thought my 100 m run with cat 7 flat cable was bad, that's a huge amount of work just another consideration for your brother in the future Vince you could invest your own router for example a Wi-Fi 6 router and connect the Ethernet cable from the ONT directly to third-party router so removing the BT router completely. This is what I did, and I get over 900 Mbps via Wi-Fi. My 100 m cable was used to connect my main router AX11000 to my other router ac86u at the other end of the house in a mesh configuration.
He would lose VOIP services though as locked into BT hubs and won’t work on third party
@@kateneilballingall6055 I think you maybe able to put the bt hub into bridge mode and connect the third-party router that way, retaining voip this is only what I've heard we didn't take the phone, so it wasn't a consideration for use
I'm also using aimesh. It's awesome especially with wired backhaul. I've got an ac68u with two lyra mini acces points.
Never seen a fibre drop cable before for FTTP, interesting! Where I live in Australia, all of our "neighbourhood" internet infrastructure (e.g. the part that connects the homes and businesses to the internet backbone) is all managed by the government, so all our FTTP installations are the same, and they are all done through underground trunking.
You do find aerial fibre cabling in some nbn areas, often areas with hilly or very rocky terrain
Interesting mate, thank you!
Can't wait for Openreach to reach my home with FTTP, soon!
Very nice job !
*You are lucky. In my street, the internet speed is a maximum of 25 Mbps. Makes me want to cry...*
One thing I was a strongly recommended that you have done is dragged two or even three network cables through just in case any of them failed (or use the 3rd cable for hardware wifi ap upstairs)
I still need to do mine but i bought around 8 meters of Cat 7 outdoor cable for only £4 so may as well chase it up the wall and into the server room fingers crossed it goes well lol
Absolutely brill job
😲😲😲😲😲😲 another video yes yes and yes Vince 😊
Brilliant video once again! I find your videos quite good because you explain things in a simple manner for confused people. Could you do a video on the turn off of the copper phone lines and transition to VoIP by 2025 even though I know whats happening and have pre done everything myself I think a video on the topic would get alot of views as alot of the older generation are confused by whats going to happen.
Thank you. Hopefully we will be doing a video on how to use the normal phones in your house (the old analogue phones) working on the VOIP network, as a lot of confusion is around stating they can't be used. So we can do a real life example in my brother's house again to show a few ways to do it. I thought we might be able to film it the same time as this one but the cable run took longer than expected 🤣 Thanks for the sharing the idea as I agree it would get a lot of views and hopefully help some people out over the coming years 👍👍👍
@@Mymatevince regular phones can be used, you just plug them into that green phone socket on the back of the BT hub. Sky have the same on their current router too. VoIP service needs to be activated by your provider first though of course. The existing house phone wiring can also be adapted by Openreach if needs be, so all your existing phone sockets stay in service. The only thing that changes is that to call a landline you now have to dial the area code too, since being VoIP it doesn't automatically know which exchange area you're calling from.
@@danbrittain9530 Thanks Dan 👍👍👍
Another great video Vince... I am surprised your brother didn't just throw the cable out of the velux window and bring it through the letter box. That would have been a much classier job than removing half the house. Your brother must work out... he has huge biceps. Is he a body builder ?
The out the window and in the letterbox is the standard Hometek installation package. Their premier package has a single cable clip or cablle tie at the mid-point of the cable run. I agree about Vince’s brother. I just watch Vince’s videos in the hope of catching a glimpse of his brother. He is so HOT
Well done!
good job bro enjoyed this ..
Awesome video 👍🍻
This also does great for those who have FiOS or Google Fi here in the States.
WOW ! You guys are good .
BT Wi-Fi discs compatible with SH2 But great video guys really enjoyed it 👍🏻
Good job mate. Tbh I would've just either run the inside out cable to move the ont or router the csp into the cupboard but hey I fit fttp for a living so I'm lucky enough to have a splicer to hand 🤣
nice to meet your bro
Wow I gave your cable guys that install the Internet around the place credit I can’t believe how high … they have to go Wow 😯
No way
We know INTERNET matters in this house. And I love it.
Woooo BT! Mine came with 2 free telephones they are great! Just uhh well good thing you didn’t have to deal with the 2 giant BBUs they also sent!
Some good tips👍
The best plug is the EZ-RJ45. With that plug you can push the wires through then crimp and cut it.
When you get older it is harder to see which wires are in the channel of the plug.
I just bought a cat 6 cable and run it down the stairs from the third floor to my router in the hall way and I use another router which allows me to have more than one Ethernet port in my room, I only use one wired device at a time. Wi-Fi is ok but the speed is tripled over wired and a solid connection.
knowing Openreach wouldn’t want to run the fibre to where I wanted it, I ran a 20mm conduit from where they’d put the splice box to where I wanted the connection, popped in a draw cord. Openreach engineer very happy, and so am I.
If anyone wants to know the name of the cutting tool, it's called an Oscillating Saw... I picked one up similar on ebay for about £35, brilliant bit of kit, my bolt keeps unscrewing though, will have to invest in some PTFE tape to be able to tighten the screw further
I'm in South East and fttp was canceled as all under ground, but I got a starlink dish now and have 430mbs so far max :) , ally networking and phone lines moved to the loft :)
well done mate.
Bloody hell, that's a bit of a torturous route... we had Cityfibre installed about a year ago now but ours was the other way round (underground fibre coming in on the ground floor of our 3 storey house with the main router in the first floor living room). Cityfibre installed everything on the ground floor as you'd expect. Fortunately they were more or less in line with each other on their respective floors, so I just had to drill through and run a Cat6 cable between the floors, throw an RJ45 socket on each end and plug them in.
Think I'd have had a breakdown if I'd had to follow your route lol
great vid
Plastic curtain track works well for feeding through. Bit tougher than trunking lid. Hope that helps someone.
Nice guide for UK houses, most guides I've seen are for American homes which seem to be more drywall and easier to wire up.
These past few years I've been using Powerline plugs which have worked well, but I've been putting off running Cat 5e or Cat 6 cables for a while now. The powerline is good but it technically acts like an oldschool Hub and the more plugs and devices talking the more collision avoidance would start to slow down my traffic, so it's time I run proper individual cables to my various switches if I want to run more devices and start streaming Netflix and gaming more.
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You can at least repair anything! That's why i'm interested in your stuff.
Dude, your brother just got fiber installed?! That’s insane, ‘cause I had fiber installed yesterday as well, and I’ve been asking for fiber FOR YEARS ON END! What a bloody coincidence!
EDIT: And I can see that your initial plan didn’t pan out the way you’d hope it would. But what are plans for if not for failing and being revised?
It took BT over a year to install FTP, the old pole was out of date so it needed replacing but a tree had grown around it, and because its a 'protected' 🤣 area they had not only to get permission from some jobsworth in the council permission to pull it out then extra permission to install a new one 6ft away clear of the tree! Worth the wait for its went from 6mbs to 150 and we're in the middle of nowhere . We have a dozen or so Ethernet cables all cat 6 /7 and gigabit switches but the cctv still lags !4k is still crap despite the hype all the data about speed is nonsense its all done in ideal lab conditions not reality ! I connect everything that has Ethernet capability by Ethernet !wireless is to slow! Just counted we have 14 Ethernet cables running into the bedroom i just hope the mice in the loft don't get a taste for copper !
I need this yesterday! I’m on 13 mbs fibre.
Looks good shame BT didn't put the connection in the cupboard. I have been doing the house up. Have put a duct from the loft to a suitable spot ready for the day I can get fibre. Fiddly job must have made it easier with two of you.
Here in the US, if you have 1 Gbps fiber it is usually symmetrical download/upload. Only caveat is that FTTP is mostly in select urban areas. In the town I live in, they are in the process of putting fiber internet in and the 1 Gbps internet goes for $80/mo.
(this installation wasn't done very well, at a minimum the gray box should have been in the roof space, and as the house was networked up it could have been installed in one of the 5 rooms that had a network socket) home owner could have been helpful if that network cupboard was next to an outside wall they could have made holes ready for it
Fttp (bt openreach witch covers msot of the uk, witch is your version of at&t that covers most of the usa) in the UK is going to be in everyone's house by the end of 2030 all copper will be off and removed
most of the uk by 2026 ish should be able to order it
2 years after each area has gone live with full fttp you won't be able to order copper services any more and 5 years if your still on copper and you don't move you will have your copper service disconnected because the hardware at the phone exchange will be removed
I have virgin (for usa that be cox) that uses docsis HFC 1gbe/50 sounds good but ping is still high soon as I can get fttp on my phone pole and my contact runs out I switch to an openreach virtual provider on fttp (probably sky) having sub constant 3ms ping is better then ping of around 10-30ms on docsis
Hopefully the other post doesn't get moderated (if you only see this one it has)
I had it installed about a year ago and they put it in my garage as thats where the gear was being a newbuild. they wouldnt put it in the main house, so i had to route a cable up through the garage , over the loft and down into the airing cupboard where the router now sits, When a BT tech engineer came out recently to follow up a new improved fibre package he was not happy that i had moved the Router lol , said it should be left where bt put it !! Almost klicked him out
Nice video
Big thumbs up!
I had to do something like this but for the hot water pipes for my boiler they were under a buily in wardrobe but not run under the floorboards so when i removed the wardrobes the pipes were above ground i had to cut some floor boards re run the cable and replafe the boards ended up been quite a job
nice video vince i believe with cat 6 it can go a little bit further than 100m , also if he going to use VOIP then i would be better to get a switch that can use Vlan so you can give the phones and computers/printer seperate lans
Here to there over there to there, from here to there, here to here from there to there, very descriptive
Take half the house apart to upgrade your broadband! I'd have probably done the outside route, but those speeds are seriously fast!
Fibre. lnternet now. To relocate. Router. Super Quick fiber. Broadband. Like 👍
Yes! A how to video!
I had Kelly communications out today to do my FTTP install and they refused to install the CSP in the loft or externally on the soffit where they would have to bring the fibre cable from the pole anyway. They said they will only install the external CSP at ground level which would mean having to run the fibre cables down the front wall of my house which would look unsightly. I now have to wait for a specialist Openreach engineer to do the install 🤷🏼♂️
I’m surprised they didn’t put the main connection in the attic space, that would have made for a cleaner install and the fibre optic would be better protected.
madness! that's one hell of a fish story :)
i'm jealous of your brothers speed. i only get 150 down and 10 up and that's with cox communications
When are u 2 available to come to my house 😂 great job 😂
I work in IT and the speed with which you crimped that cable was impressively fast, I always struggle with getting the wires in the right order.
@Por Qué?
He’s pretty much in his elements. When you live doing something as a profession, you become one with that profession.
I expected a giant rat coming out their bt fttp is class ive not had one single day of down time 900mb speed.
Got fiber in November 2020. And they had to go through concrete walls to all the flats out here. We all got it installed over a period of 7 months. My block was the last, so hard to wait when others had it installed over the summer. Had to get a lot if new lan cables as their fiber box is far away from the router. So a lot of 8 and 10 meter lan cables everywhere. And they're all basically taped to the wall. Only way to do it. But why use something as old as cat 6 ? If you want to be future proof go with the latest. So i got cat 8 running everywhere here. It's not so pretty but at least all 3 rooms have been hooked up now. So all my PS3s and PS4s have gone from 2-4mps in download to around 500-600mps in download. Huge difference. Games can be downloaded in 5 min now, and not overnight as before. Might change provider though. They have raised the price in 22. So not really a good deal anymore.. 😒
Just thinking there is Phone socket on the bottom of the NOKIA ONT so what about using that for the phone connections as well as your SKY HD+ STB but you will need secret information to let you setup a VOIP connection.