How much POWER does an ebike need?
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I feel that wind is as important as hills in factoring motor size. I live in a place that has significant wind. The effort and power I need to overtake the added wind is significant
Exactly right. Wind is huge with or without a motor. For that reason I chose a BBSHD on a roadbike. No regrets. I use maximum power mostly if trying to ride fast into a stiff headwind.
You should sail instead of biking
@@nolanr1400 If his house was an island on water, then surely he would be.
Holy exposure, Batman! Well I guess it's good that I know more about ebikes than I do about working cameras...
Oh I thought you were just really white!
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My 48 volt 750 Watt bldc motorcycle can achive 45-50 kmph speed and loading capacity 200 kg and 100 kg motorcycle can climb 20degrees
1.5 kWh battery with Samsong cell give around 90-120 km range
Sir how much power is needed for uplifting front wheel ,if using mid drive
My Bafang 350w geared rear hub motor, with a 36V battery, is all the power I would want. I'm 6'-3" and 205 lbs, so I still get a decent workout when climbing hills. I actually find myself doing way more hill riding now because it's so much fun! I've ridden ebikes with 500w and 750w motors and I barely break a sweat with those. So, if you still want to get a decent workout, don't go for anything more than 350w
what kind of speed can do you reach?
@@shneor.e About 25 mph on the flat
@@alozborne i found a 350w bafang rear hub e-bike conversion kit that's near me, do you mind if i ask some questions?
1. 25mph is the pedal assist mode or that's its full throttle?
2. i'm 5'2, ~145lbs, i can cycling 25mph myself, so would the pedal assist help me surpass that speed or 25mph is its cap?
3. how big is your 36V battery? how far have you tested it?
thanks in advance.
For me, I like having a more powerful motor, even though I rarely use the power. I usually have it set up in a motor that gives me about 200 W. That gives me all the power I need except for with a very strong headwind or a big hill. But I like having the powerpower when I need it.
I have been riding my ebike for 12yrs. Bought a 500w 48v kit on ebay for $600 back then. This bike has near 35,000 miles on it. It is a $450 Trek bike. Does 25mph, Still going.
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My 1000w 52v 20ah cheapy chinese kit on a 98 Giant Rincon Hardtail has been kickin' it for 4 years now.. I won't even put a freaking 250w sticker on anything I own.. Can't even burn toast w/that... pfffft.. I get 30mph cheap. Build your own. I'll never get anything less powerful than this. ever. 750w is childs play.. I'm sorry.
@@Danstaafl gonna get 1500w 60v 32ag but it looks like a motor instead of bicycle.
@@Danstaafl Anything less than 200kw is for reptilians. Take a train traction motor and mount it to your bike...
Danstaafl I have to agree. I had the geoorbital wheel for close to 5 yrs, and that was a 500W motor. Then I bought a 1200W rear hub. The difference is night and day. I would never go less than 1200W. You can carry lumber on a steep uphill, without that motor breaking a sweat.
@@MockeryManor where do u get a 1200watt bike what kind of specs am I looking for it to be 1200 watt
Thanks for this very informative video! In 6 minutes, I learned all the information I was searching for about motor capacity vs. expected performance. I'm preparing for my first eBike build and also planning an eMotorcycle conversion of my Honda CT90.
That was a great way to explain the differences between the different configurations. I was also wondering about this question. Thanks.
Sharing my own experience having 500w hub motor along w/ 48V, 12.5Ah Haybike battery. Since there was a statement in this video that 200 pounds rider barely can climb hills w/ 500w motor - I’ll say - I’m over 200 pounds and even using only 2nd power-assist pedaling level I’m able to climb very steep grade not only without problem but with acceleration.
Using only $500 Haybike Race Max e-bike sold on amazon I have enough power and acceleration shifting only between 2 of the 3 available power-assisted pedaling levels. Never ever I needed 100% pure throttle in order tired already to ride my e-bike and just so you know I’m 75-yr of age senior. So discussing how much power one needs when choosing e-bike keep in mind this report and save your money in picking the right e-bike for your conditions. 😃
i have strong headwinds here up 17 -20 mph the majority of the time and kick in a slight hill 3 miles long and my Aluminum Royce Union does all it can ! yeah i'm looking at a 750 watt E-Bike to help me commute without getting all sweaty ..thanks for your intel.
my city has a lot of crazy hills 1500w has really been a life saver
My city is very similar, I live on the urban area only 15min car ride from town and fucking hills everywhere just wondering like but what bike do you use for this?
Front drive motor that uses the chain and gears will always be better on hills.
Hey Micah, great video and very informative. I want to add a bit about wind resistance and cost. I am on a 3kW Cyclone ebike generator (800W) hybrid where generator is removable for different modes. Also, don't take this as me grand standing I just have a lot of time to test and think about this. I would say that 22 mph is the sweet spot for ebikes from a wind resistance and cost perspective. To get there you need 750-1000W motor. The reason why that is the sweet spot is wind resistance robs a lot of power and becomes to the 3rd power above 20mph and 750-1000W motors and batteries are relatively cheap compared to 1500W+ kits. I rarely ride at 3kW because it is so inefficient due to wind resistance and battery life. Of course if you have an unlimited budget just go buy at 72V 30ah+ battery and you can go at whatever speeds you want. Can't wait to see you on the Harley Livewire btw.
Thanks for all the great info you already have given but I think an organized video detailed series on different essential parts of an electric vehicle would be a blessing... Thanks again and please keep up the good work
Great video:) i agree i have my 1500w hub running at peak of 1900w and while a peak of 1500w is good and can keep up with most traffic it struggles to accelerate uphill above 36kmh, 1900w on the otherhand can accelerate you up to that 45-50kmh range on some fairly steep hills.
I still have my bionx d 500 equipped ebike and I’m over 200 lbs and i use pedal assist and it still gets me up some hills fairly easily. Too bad they went out of business. Great video and information as always Micah
My BMS failed on my Smart ebike and nobody can fix it .Would you remove the control board in the 350 wart hub motor and go with a new control and battery or would you spend thousands of dollars finding a new battery?
Great video, thanks! I wish yuou had done it before I built my E-bike though. I went for a 1500W 48V setup out of fear of laking power, and I love it. But I could have sorvived with 750W or 1000W. Something to consider as well is, that with bigger motors come bigger bateries, and the wheight of the bike increases considerably. I started with a Hybrid bike (light montain bike) and now it feels like a tank
3kW 72V 16aH + mountain bike + generator (800W) = 100lb bike here. Yeah, its a tank LOL. Keep it in that 2nd gear
@@feedallday2556Yeah... I think the bike weight issue is something worth knowing for people thinking about an ebike conversion. LOVE my heavy bike though
Building my firts ebike. 3000w MXUS v3 hub motor and 72v 30ah diy battery. To much hills where I live and need about 70 km range to get to work. Learnig a lot with you and your website. Thanks
This is the best wattage ebike video I have ever seen. I appreciate you.
Ah great I have been asking a similar question. Tnx for that answer.
Recently Japanese manaufacturers have agreed a spec for scooter/motorcycle batteries, do you know the Watts/amps/volts of these new batteries and when they will start to become available both wholesale and retail?
The battery voltage and power rating of the controller make a difference as well.
I bought an ebike with a 24v 250w motor and a 350w controller, it was pants would it got to15mph on the flat in 30 seconds forget about going over bridges it just stopped without help from me.
I upgraded the battery to 48v the controller to 800w and stuck a cycle analysist I there for good mesure, now I have a bike that can go 30mph and has great acceleration and hill climbing ability’s.
If I creep to the uk leagal speed of 15mph then no matter how steep the hill is I can go up it at 15mph.
At peak current draw the CA was measuring 1500w.
I didnt know that. So i can upgrade my bike and not change motor! Who knew! I wonder can i switch 1.75 tires to 4 inch tires. Its really the tires that bother me.
Thanks for all the information and reviews that you put out there Micah!
I learn more & more we've time I watch your videos towards my planned diy E-bike goals Cap'n Micah! Thx!
Great video thanks mate. Do you recommend having push button throttle for acceleration or having pedal assist? Is it possible to have both running at the same time? Or flip between these two options with a button
A friend has converted his recumbent trike to an e-trike with a "Copenhagen Wheel". Wireless control using a phone app, and no external battery. Can you do a review and give us your opinions? Thanx..
Yet more good info for me to use in making my choice on what way to go for my ride as it will be a one time purchase for now. Thanks for the info!
This is great information. I will use it as I plan my DIY Ebike
Fantastic explainer, man. Still waiting for you to convert the motorcycle though. I'm so excited about that. When will there be an update on that?
I'M not sure if we can discuss wattage and torque-speed, but exclude battery consumption on a ebike.
I’ve been using a 250W 36V DIY ebike for a year and I wouldn’t say I need more power for my daily commutes. As long as the battery is full, that is. Because as it gets weaker, so does the torque of the motor.
I also use a 250 w bike every day and I climb hills every day. I guess he is comparing them with motorcycles.
The more power thing isn't for top speed it's for acceleration.
My ebike was bought as a 200w and I ran it for about 7 years. Then I decided to upgrade the hub motor to a 1500w. Yes the top speed is over double of what it was but you don't really go blasting along at max speed on the public highway. It's the acceleration & unassisted hill climbing that's awesome.
It's like getting out of a Trabant and into ANY modern car. The difference is mind blowing.
@@0utcastAussie so you had a 200W hub motor and swapped it with a 1500W hub motor withOUT replacing the controller? That doesn't seem right for some reason...
@@ThanosSustainable
Where did I say that I hadn't replaced the controller ?
The controller comes with the hub motor along with ebike brake levers & throttle
0utcastAussie that sounds like a kit, what did you go for if you dont mind me asking?
I have had your books in my wishlist for a few months now, not having known of your channel. I'm glad to have stumbled upon your videos.
Thanks for the informative info. I have learned valuable information on hub motors vs. wheel motors and battery performance!
Some of us don't care about limits in Europe, I have been running 750w middrive for 5 years, 250w limits just don't cut it.
I’m considering getting a surrey (4- or 6-person) and I want to instal a hub motor on the drivers side to make it pedal assist. Of course they are crazy heavy compared to a bike, so do I go 1500w?
Id go for it. Alot of passengers and more power is better. Im trying to get the governor off of my bike for more speed. And two batteries for you. Maybe two 52v?
@@swanp1767 You nailed it. I ended up going for a 52V battery too. I thought the hub motor would be too much, but now having installed it, I bought exactly the power I needed.
Great video. Starting to fill in the blank spots in my head.
Super informative thank you! I've been wondering how to sort all of this out
14kW all day long😁 if the front wheel doesn’t come up then it’s not enough power!
14 kW Mr. Kirby if you get to 20 will you have a disco sesh in your shed?? 😉
How does your bike handle that much power?
Wasn't sure if it could handle anymore im thinking of going 8KW hub drive the 15kw is probably gonna kill my bike lol.
Also what size battery?
And what's your top speed ?
@@danielziolkowski1027 Given the weight and size of 48V batteries (assuming he could even find a controller and wiring that could handle peak 291 Amps which I highly doubt), the range would be around 5 miles in the city at best. His bike would have to be built like a motorcycle to handle the torque.
@@danielziolkowski1027 check out Andy kirby videos he and vortecks are two excellent ebikers with more knowledge than most vortecks bike version 3 is crazy powerful he's started a site for info on builds etc link in his videos andys bikes are rapid powerful machines with informative videos look for their videos on here or check out cloudsto.com or kirby ebike these two guys are pretty much the best ebike build vlogers on CZcams between those two guys you can't go wrong I believe they both use 72 volt 30ah there abouts batteries running 150 odd amps more than I can handle I've a 72 v mid drive running 90 amp turned down from 150 for safety reasons 😉
I think this video went about 6:10 longer than it takes to say MOAR!
We need all the power! 😂💪✌🏻
Thanks for four vids! You have saved me untold dollars and hours of waisted time. I ride a BCA with a Bafang mid drive and a NB 8000watt rear hub. I'm running a ASI bac 800 72v and a 72v 150amp on the hub. The mid drive display is the NXT touch screen. I'm running two triangular 72v30amp hour batteries. Fast and dependable, both used together on low pedal assist gives me over 200 miles of range brakeing with the regen lever. Two independent drives always gets me home, and usually first across an intersection.
Thanks for posting mention this in other videos I love all bicycles currently have trek mountain bike and a truck road bike my truck rode bike iped consistently 18 mph so a 20 mile an hour evike is Ludacris for me
I'd say that a good 250watt mid drive is not just good for the flat, it's a massive boost on hills as well. Hub motor, not so much!
agreed. I have a cheap 250W tdsz2 and steep inclines, even on gravel, lowest gear and highest assist level are really no issue. No I didn't measure the inclines but I know I would have thought twice before tackling them with a conventional bike. I think with e-bikes, people have developed unrealistic expectations.
@@ioandragulescu6063 I've since purchased a Giant Roam E+, so now I can speak with authority. I'm a big person, and it makes hill climbs an absolute breeze.
@@contentsdiffer5958 I'm using a 250w motor, that's the max legal size in my country. There are different countries on the planet. And yes, that 250w makes a massive difference for me, so my comment stands.
@@modut6258 In USA Roam E+ is rated at 50Nm and costs $2,700 believe it's even exchange rate for Euro. I'm 84 kilos. Doesn't mention max speed, but 25KPH is EU limit. Pondering buy bike here in USA and bringing it when I move to Spain in near future, but slowest bikes here are 32KPH, so I don't know if I'd be let in with it. Found 250w with 60Nm reduced from $2,600 to $2100 Co Op Cycles CTY e2.2
@@Borderman47 Tell me about it! When I lived in Spain my sister bought me an expensive jacket she got 1/2 price. She insured it for the full price and by the time I paid the tax at Correros, between shipping and taxes it was double. Wanted to put miles on bike so they wouldn't or would tax it lower.
I deemed 2080w as necessary.
Though, the sticker I'm putting on it does say 250w.
Keeping it legal. Nice bro.
My 1000w the factory sent me a real invoice saying 250w.... Chinese can be rather agreeable
Hope it has some good brakes on it. A collision on a bike at 40 MPH is more than enough to kill someone.
@@autonomous2010 Even with some old cantilever brakes, I can stop pretty fast. Though I must say I squeeze pretty hard.
@@airwilliam24 I guess. I just find people are often dangerously optimistic about the frailty of human bodies.
Here in the UK we can only have 250w motors and of course we also have hills and we manage very well thank you
Nice video comparing wattage. It's always nice to see you in the forums too. Cheers!
Where can I find a dual motor, dual battery display?
Are the cheap 1000 watt motors on wish worth buying?
Stay away from "Wish" every thing they sell if second rate or out right junk. If your going to spend money on a ebike, or a conversion kit. Get a good one with good customer support.
Voilamart
As Jeremy Clarkson would say, MORE POWER is always the correct answer to that question.
He copied it from Tim the toolman Taylor. TV show with beautiful Spamela Hamderson, err, I mean Pamela Anderson.
Great explanation of e bike power! i just ordered a 1000 watt mid drive. I am 6'2" and 265 lbs and ride fat tire bikes in sand. Sand eats up the power and i am glad i held out an waited for the 1000 watt befang mid drive
Wonderful explanation of the complexity of power and need. You have earned another subscriber. you are welcome.
250W at front + 500W at the back wheel ;)
Does it improve or affect handeling? or just speed?
@@danielziolkowski1027 I tried just for 5km a custom build e-bike with hub motors at both wheels and found it very comfy.
I think the regen braking was very smooth and the acceleration was so nice :)
@@DanislavKostov
Thanks would you recommend playing around with having both a front and rear motors ?
This will be my first ebike I just want to learn as much as I can b4 I make my own mistakes lol
@@danielziolkowski1027 For a first ebike I would recommend basic setup with rear wheel hub motor. Easy and working.
@@DanislavKostov Thanks I will get it going right then will only be a day b4 I start to experiment lol and understand some cause and effect
Bike means you should be peddling.
In the EU 250 Watts means it can be easily 500 Watts up hill.
I've got over 18,000 miles (28800 km) on my 2003 LWB recumbent ebike build. It uses an old fashioned (with modified slightly lower gearing) USPD Currie drive on the rear 26" (41.6cm) wheel. The motor/controller is rated for 48V, 1000W continuous, 1500W peak. You might get the idea from this that I never pedal and only ride it with POD (Power On Demand) throttle wide open all the time, but nothing could be further from the truth. I always pedal and seldom exceed 500W of power even on one of the many 15%+ grade hills in my territory. I use no motor power on flats or gentle rolling hills. Having the extra power comes in very handy when I take the lane in traffic in areas where it's stoplight to stoplight every block. Having all the surplus continuous power while rarely ever using more than half of it means I don't stress the drive too hard at all. That's probably why the longevity has been so good as it shows no sign of lower performance today, 16 years later.
Here's a picture of it from back in 2003 after I completed the build:
tinyurl.com/y2subu22
@@JaleelJohanson62
Pity the link doesn't seem to work at the moment.
I wish there were more people like you. Over here in the EU you can use a speed-pedelec, but then you need to have it insured, wear a helmet and have at least a drivers license for a moped (which is quite easy to get). Any car drivers license will do as well. More and more people are getting rid of the car and commute by speed-bike. Far more popular though are low powered e-bikes (rated 250W), often called pedelecs. Anybody can ride them, even children, and you don't need anything. No license, no insurance and you don't have to wear a helmet.
Nowadays most of them are 36 Volts and they are fused 15 Amps. This means the maximum power is up to 540 Watts (and the rated 250 Watts is defined as the average maximum).
Their speed is limited though to 25 km/h with a 10% window, so most of them easily go 27-28 km/h. You can tweak them to go much faster, but officially those tweaks make it illegal to ride on public roads. There is no throttle (by law), you'll have to turn the pedals. There are 2 systems: one that only checks whether you turn the peddle (no matter how slow) and one that adjusts the power of the motor to the force on the pedal. The latter gives a more natural feel, the first makes it possible not to use any human force at all.
To get back to the title of the video. An average adult of 80 kg riding a normal city-bike on a flat surface at about 18 km/h uses between 80 and 100 Watts. Living in the Netherlands we know all about bikes and we are so very lucky not to have any hills, let alone mountains. Our biggest challenge is peddling up a bridge.
@@czarzenana5125 Our laws here in the U.S. regarding ebikes vary by state. There is a federal law as well, and while there are some states that follow it to the letter, the federal law is used primarily as a guideline for the importation of ebikes from abroad. In my particular state, the law for ebikes was recently changed to that of mopeds. I have a top speed limit under motor power alone of 30 mph ( 48 kph) with no more than 2.5 brake hp to the drive wheel. One must have a driver's license to ride an ebike on the streets. That leaves those who's licenses have been suspended off of ebikes as well though as well as those under age 16 which is not very good IMHO. I have a velomobile as well and it incorporates the Bafang BBS02 750W mid-drive that powers the cranks in parallel with human pedaling. While it does have a POD throttle, I tend to ride it in pedelec mode as I like that better. It's of the simpler design you mentioned where there's no torque sensor and therefore no varying assist level to match the user's level of pedaling. It's still a blast to drive and I can't count how many times I've been videoed while out and about in it. lol I would think that with a 250W power limit that a mid-drive where the motor can take advantage of the bicycle gearing would be the way to go? My velomobile in the lowest gear could climb a tree if it had claws to grip the bark. lol I've watched many videos of the bicycle culture in the Netherlands and would love to visit there some day!
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Great information guy . I’m getting into this and trying to do research before I build or buy
Same here
Thank you. You have a kind smile. 😃
Hmm, Im currently building a 3kw Bike, so I'll see how it will perform xD
How was it?
@@01imh Difficult to say:
First I tried to make the throttle control via Force on the pedals, but this is at 3kw unbearable(flew off the bike because of too much power).-> To compare: the maximum torque is the same as a 100ps motorcycle.
Now I'm controlling it via a real throttle grip and it is much better, also programmed an "Speed"-Mode where it automatically accerlerates me to a given speed if i pedal, but at fixed torque much lower than the 3kw (I guess about 1kW or so).
Also I made a extra battery because the normal ones don't give you 3kW
To conclude:
I freaking nice and has a lots of power, but in everyday use I guess 1kW is more than enough.
Ecks Dee
If one were to follow the trajectory of Harley Davidson, E-Bikes will eventually weigh nearly 1000 lbs.
You didn't get the memo or the right gene's...real men need heavy bikes
Such a dedication and humility; taking time to develop a video just to satisfy your viewers queries is such a great thing. The explanation was satisfactory, keep the great work going. To greater knowledge.
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All i know is that i’m not paying thousands of dollars to only go 20 mph
Exactly. These things are massively overpriced for what they are. I think we've become more stupid as a society.
@@onepalproductions you can make one for litteraly free just fine a old motor 24v wich are basically free and a battery wich you have to get creative to find because there's lots of unique types
@@onepalproductions Yes and no.
You can buy motors and controllers from china and use any low end bike to build an ebike for cheap.
But you are responsible for picking a reliable source, designing the system and troubleshooting any problems.
And, or course there is no warranty or support line.
Ebike retailers in the US want to carry bikes with a decent profit margin, because they have ongoing costs to cover.
I can understand why they don't want to carry cheap 5kw bikes - in addition to low profit margins, there is huge liability for them.
Then how about the Lectric XP or ST? They cost $899, and are a class 2/3 e-bike. This means they will go up to 28mph in pedal assist and 20mph in throttle only mode (limited by law). If you want to go faster, the law classifies it as a motorcycle. At that point you need a motorcycle license, registration and insurance, like any other motorcycle. An e-bike lets you avoid these sometimes expensive legal necessities. E-bikes also appeal to those who don't have or who can't get a driver's license, for whatever reason.
@@SuperSushidog There are othwr justifications for high power ebikes.
I want a fat tire bike that can baul a small trailer through any weather over any terrain.
That require a hell of a lot more power than 500w or 1000w
Other people want a bike they can ride levally to an offroad area, where they can use the extra power fully.
1500+ watts. Anything less is a waste of time.
15 in going 8kw 72V makes me tingling just thinking about it
you want bike or motorbike?
Nice video, thanks very much. Hope you'll talk about upgrading citycoco type electric scooters soon 👍👍
I have 750w geared hub on front and staton friction drive Honda gx50 at rear on a cheap 26” mtb. Flies up STEEP hills at nearly 30mph. Handlebars take a bit to get use to with the different controls. Going to upgrade soon to a disc brake bike for stopping power. I cruise on just gas power at 25-30. Taking off and hills I go hybrid...Leg/Lekky/Petrol.
Maintenance is minimal with this set up.
Will make video when I get the disc bike sorted.
Super helpful - thanks for sharing the knowledge!👍🏼
I really appreciate all your great advice.
Thank you so much for your invaluable information, highly appreciate it, keep it up the outstanding job, have a great day.
Good explanation of power rateings , thanks !!
Excellent video.Have to get a middrive ebike now.
I do like the way you explain things , thanks .
great information. I just got my daughter 36V 500W hub and based on what you said I think she will be happy with it. Keep doing what you're doing.
you are good ... very good ...unpretentious and natural ... what an amazing innovative and exciting decade ahead for the mainstream future of personal travel ... just goes to prove that the wheel can be reinvented ... cheers from downunder ( it’s a bloody big hot country down here and aussies are way too to lazy to pedal hard )
I thought I would never ride another bicycle after my orthopedic surgery. 3 surgeries. My 500w Bafang motor in my Ecomotion Core E-Pro Fat tire bike allows me to get some exercise and at the same time look like I'm superman up hills when really I'm more of a Superbee with my legs moving but not required to kill myself peddling. This kind of saved my life in that way. Thanks for the great motivating videos.
Totally agree with 1000watts. I have a Bafang BBSHD here in the UK on a 20 speed light weight aluminium mountain bike I built myself. It has dual front chain rings at 38T / 48T and a rear cassette from 11T to 50T. That bike goes like stink up any hill and actually catches quite a bit of air in the process over steep fast climbs to jumps. (I'm 90 Kgs and running it with a 52 volt 20 amp battery ). Though I think the BBSHD is actually 1500watts, not so much 1000. Regardless, hella lotta fun!
Great video simply explained and well put.
Great vid man, greetings from Argentina!
Good to know, I'm getting my 52V 2000W hub motor kit tomorrow that will be going on my Norco :)
Thanks for this, clean and simple. I am more interested in figuring out how many watts they use on average (say 75kg rider) on relatively flat ground to go say 10 km. Cheers
Great video....all of your material is super helpful and applicable to todays technology so Thank You!
Great question! Thanks for the info
Great video mate, cheers from Down Under...
Love your channel, very informative. Hi from the UK.
Micah, you're awesome. Thanks for this vv informative video. I'm now narrowing my search for a cargo Ebike. I started with a Dualtron Eagle pro scooter and the dual motor 60v battery makes for amazing for torque, speed and mileage. Was confused as to why Ebikes have smaller wattage and single motor designs. Next up, I'll study your battery design vids!! Happy trails!
Very helpful video in any case.
Would like to see you review some of the QS or MXUS 3000 or 5000 watt offerings. I know you would class these as motorcycles, but there are some who choose to use them on bicycle frames, mostly fatbikes or stealth type frames, but they are out there! Thanks for all you do Micah!
new sub, this is a must watch channel, i am in the market for an ebike and use your information to make my choice, thanks and best to all from manhattan, nyc !
One factor that is not often talked about for ebikes is the diameter of the wheels and how that affects top speed and hill climbing ability. Although you may be sacrificing some top speed, smaller wheels do not need as much wattage to achieve the same torque to the ground needed for hills. Ofc, gearing also plays a big factor in the case of mid-drives, but all things being equal aside from wheel size, i think this holds true.
Lot of good information here, thank you.
I just put together a BBSHD Luna hotrod with 52v Wolf battery. Bike is 90's Mongoose IBOC Comp MTB, Bonded aluminum frame. Skinny 90lb road tires, 52lbs ready to ride. It makes my buddies Radrunner seem like a joke but I was expecting a little more?? It's a blast to ride and maybe it's just that I'm used to powerful dirt and street bikes?? With a fresh charge it does move out pretty good. ??? Love your channel.
Hey Micah. Great info here. Thanks again for sharing. I have a question for you if you don't mind answering. What's your story? What did you study/work at to get where you are today?
Hi. I just wanted to start out by saying that your videos are so informative and interesting. I’m not building up an E-bike yet but I recently picked up a super clean Razor E300 but it lacks power and fun. There seem to be so many variations of upgrades I really don’t know where to start. I’m looking to probably squeeze out about 20-25 mph without having to leave on a charger for 3-1/2 days to only run for about 45 minutes. I’m fairly new to this game and was looking into maybe a 36v-1000w motor. Any guidance you can give me would be so greatly appreciated. I don’t want to purchase the wrong parts only to find out I should’ve gone in a different direction. Thanks again. Keep up the great work with the videos.
Such great clear descriptions. Thank you :}
Great video. Helped a lot.
Nice explanation. Thank you!
Hey there God bless. Nice n very detailed information form you thanks for sharing your information i am about to get a e bike kit for my self n your information helps a lot
Great honest video.
Thanks for the info. Enjoy your videos.
Great info, answered a lot of questions for me.Thank you. Carol G. From Seguin, Tx
Glade I found this Vedic. I was not sure of the power I needed . Sounds like 500 or 750. I lean towards the front hub drive
I've been looking on youtube for hours for someone to give m e a clear idea what power range I should even be shopping in. It wasn't until this video that I had a working understanding of what to expect from various power ranges. Also, all 4 of those books are up my ally, so here's hoping :-)
Hi Micah..! Excellent video. 👍
Could you please make a video explaining power to weight ratio as how powerful a motor should be to carry a certain (overall) weight? Please put some lights on energy to weight ratio of an electric motor (preferably BLDC).
I have a front hub 1000w 48v wheel and run a 48v 40ah lithium battery on a trike. It lasts me almost two weeks of riding back and forth to work, climbs the few hills at speed unless it's already at top speed in which case it slows down a bit, and handles grocery runs fairly easy. I used to do the chinese motor bike kits, but after having a lot of difficulties with the setup on my trike I swapped to the electric hub and haven't looked back
Thnx.....very helpfully for a beginning ebiker, like me
Thanks for the explanation. Now i can give good advise.
Excellant infomation Thanks Micah
Great info. Thank you!
Great info, Thank you
very good information. thanks