The trial of Britain's MOST NOTORIOUS speeder!
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Tommy Davies (IG: @coedyglyn) tells the story of how he was prosecuted for a claimed record across the length of Britain from John o' Groats to Lands End in his Audi S5.
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The moment the judge said that he goes to the nurburgring twice a year, this guy was probably the most relieved person in the world
And asking if the judge wanted to reserve the case was a stroke of genius, as they knew he was a car guy judge 😂
Mummy and daddy are in with the masons
I would've yelled out "YES" and the immediately "Sorry your majesty" 😂
@@jrbenson810 "your honor" your majesty is for the king/queen ONLY!
@@jackass123455 "I don't care" is reserved for idiots like you who think I care.
How incredibly lucky do you have to be to get the only Judge in the country that takes trips twice a year to the Nürburgring? LEGENDARY!
A lot of judges are car enthusiasts.
@@ggee7391a lot of judges are judges
How do you know its the only one.
@@ggee7391 That's a bold statement.
@@gbt722 I don't anymore than you know the opposite to be true. But it's highly unlikely don't you think?
This is the old VinWiki i missed, I watched the whole video and didn't even question for a second how long it was. This was incredible story telling, keep up the great work and looking forward to more long form.
Great story telling , didn't notice it had been half an hour
Apart from debunking their evidence, I think representing himself in such an eloquent and articulate way must have impressed the jury. He is also clearly a charismatic character and all of those things helped him with his case. Well done!
Pretty cool dude. I think the geniuses on this channel really show what a bit of money can do.
You know what's the craziest part about all of this? How the prosecution was willing to put him behind bars just to save their own skin.
Because US prosecutors would NEVER indulge in such antics.cough "J6" cough.
Some prosecutors would sell their children to Jimmy Savile if meant them saving their face.
That's so typical of prosecutors annnywhere.
Yup they just want the win if if they know they will lose they need to justify their jobs…like was said..they have murderers, physical assaults robberies…and this case…in reality they lied, didn’t have any res evidence…and spent untold resources on a hunch basically..can’t get him on one thing we will try something else to skirt the law on limitations…over charging him…BS!
@@renebarrera5286 how does this comment relate to the us
Nothing is better than a good judge who doesn't default with the prosecution, and in fact detests sloppy attempts at stitch ups.
(Dodgy judge was the rumor around the time when the case was happening)
@@piovo5222 Typical state disinformation campaign! 👽
It's far better to let a guilty person go free than to jail an innocent person.
Prosecution should be hard. As the law states it must be 'beyond reasonable doubt'. It stops innocent people going to jail and makes certain the guilty are guilty and that the investigators do their damn job properly and not try stich people up for crimes they didn't commit.
couple of judges in my family. they detest police because they lie and make their (the judges) jobs much harder.
Hear hear, well done judge, very well done.
He was very lucky. The prosecution did a terrible job. I'd love to know how he drove that fast without setting off a camera. Especially the average speed stretch of motorway.
yeah this video was great and I'm happy for him but I just google maps'd it and it's saying between 13-17 hours haha so he must have broken the law lol but I guess it's the fact they couldn't prove it.
@@5uper5kill3rzwell when average 90mph and anything that isn't a race track basically has max speed of 70mph
Mind you it's like drive across America in 27 hours
yeah exactly, it's an odd case really, it's also mind blowing that nobody saw him, I drive home on the M40 late at night a lot between Maidenhead and Oxford (no speed cameras) but still sit at 80 normally, you never know where the police are@@mlee6050
Most cameras just don't work to begin with or you get lucky with the photo unable to identify the vehicle. I used to travel pretty regularly on a large section of the route he would have taken and a friend used to do the same from London to up North and neither of us has ever got a speeding ticket on a motorway. Obviously not saying you won't be caught but it's not hard to imagine they weren't working.
If you knew he'd be in prison
It's absurd how law enforcement invests substantial time and energy scrutinizing someone's phone, especially in a speeding case, when there are murderers and pedophiles roaming free. Prioritizing resources is crucial, and focusing on more serious crimes like these should be priority number one. imo
If people didn't commit petty crime the police would have more time to investigate serious crime.
did he commit a crime tho? i saw no verdict?@@drewdabbs418
@@drewdabbs418lolwat? The cops should be investigating the serious crime first, they’re just lazy. Prosecuting people like this is a waste of tax $
@@drewdabbs418 Or maybe the police should focus more on those doing actual damage than those doing petty crimes. You're only making excuses for cowards whose wages are paid for by the people with the sole job of protecting said people.
people end up killing people when consistently speed......
This trial was ridiculous. He is very much summarizing it. This thing took forever and was chronicled heavily over there forever.
Was it? I've never heard of him, and I was glad about that he he seems to be a throbbing jeb end.
Just do a track day if you want to drive fast.
You're the one Clarksons police marksmen would go after
@@lucasokeefe7935 Who? Me? Is that because I do track days and have raced cars, and still race bikes to scratch the itch, rather than driving like a bellsprout on public roads to gain notoriety
@@JSmith19858yeah, I agree but they were past their time limits, no victim, no reports of dangerous driving, just one unrelated ticket that they could get the officer to show up for?..so they bring a charge that could send him to prison for 6+ years 🤔 80mph is not a lot of speed on those hwys those laws were from a time when 80mph was like going 120-150 in the older cars..the crime imho didn’t justify the potential punishment…they have their cameras out film in them..or if they want the revenue so bad hire more police officers…speed cams here…the ticket goes to the plate owner…the owner doesn’t affect their license at all…it’s about revenue not safety….and by the sounds of things the prosecution was just pissed off that they couldn’t get him and was overzealous, greedy trying to save face…like a pissed off vindictive GF mad because you broke off with her. Egg on their face…probably £10’s of thousands, if not £100k+ spent…great use of taxpayers money 🤔
@@canadiankrispybacon1450 He was running his mouth about doing it. It's like someone running their mouth about commiting a high profile murder and being upset that the police try to pin it on them.
Chat shit, get banged
Best VinWiki video in years. A great return to proper story telling. Gripping stuff.
Typical UK Police, going after what they see as easy wins, rather than solving real crimes!
It must have been an awkward debrief for the police and courts after that verdict.
Fact. Tell you the other side of the story. I've been plenty fast across the UK (when going from Ireland (southern) back home to Denmark). Never got a fine. Cause: too much paperwork.
Vin wiki has some great stories even in recent years you just have to find them... @Marlow925
The CPS decide what to prosecute not the police if it's going to the Crown Court. The police provide the 'evidence' and the Crown Prosecution Service decide if it meets criteria and then proceed to court.
That's typically how I did my tests.
Solve the easy questions first then come back for the harder ones.
Dude! In a case against speeding THE best thing is to have a judge who goes to the Ring.
This is priceless!
That judge is awesome.
I like how the CPS and courts set a precedent to help getting a law breaking copper off. And the fact that a murder got less attention than a guy being hounded by the CPS tells you everything you need to know about the UK legal system. There is no justice. You were very lucky to get a judge who isn't bent on exerting their power.
Actually, the cop set his own precedent, as the CPS wanted him in prison but he argued that they couldn't prove it was dangerous driving & he was found not guilty...
@@mikey_bb it was some wank prosecutor with ambition on a power trip.
The judiciary has nothing at all to do with the amount of publicity a case gets. That is the Media's job, and they know us so well they only bothered with the story they knew would be most eagerly read.
The precedent was set because a Copper got clever. The CPS charged him FFS, so they were hardly trying to corruptly provide a get out of jail card for police officers. They also charged him because someone did their job and checked the mans black box readings, and even then they could all have just had a laugh and told the copper to slow down a bit, instead of spending thousands and wasting time going through a court case just to cover any future problems with a precedent. To even think that is serious 9/11 style idiocy.
The guy in this video actually did what he was charged with, and got away with it because he argued his case better than those prosecuting him. That is our justice system. Short of getting God to step down and point at the guilty party, I can't think of a better system to have, than the British legal system. Can you?
@@jeffhubbard4688 how did he do it? there is no evidence?
@@JackFN_VR64 I have no idea how he did it. That is his secret super power, plus the fact that no one started looking until 8 months after he had done it, and he has never straight up denied doing it. If that was China, pr any place where the individual has significantly less wriggle room if the persecution wants your arse, he'd still be doing his 6 years, 10 years later. It's not a perfect world, be thankful we live in a place where imperfection is given at least some tolerance.
Fair play for getting him on. The UK is not the country with the most CCTV cameras .. but it's in the top 3. Speed cameras in the UK are ridiculous. And he did play it right, because the fact that the UK has a speed camera network this wide and extensive .. and they didn't even follow protocol to check it ... or dismissed it to get a case .. is part of what got him off.
It literally backfired for the prosecutor. Great story.
I think what made the case, was the original investigator giving testemony that they DID check the camera network.
That would have changed minds from "those cameras could prove him guilty if they only checked early enough" into more like "there is no case here"
When there is a trial by jury, it is not ALL about what you can prove. If they think you did it, your fighting an uphill battle evidence or not.
@@ssu7653 Even magistrates can be biased. A friend of mine in a car club had photo and video proof that there were no "50 mph" temporary speed limit signs on a stretch of motorway where he got a ticket for doing 74mph in a 50, that was actually 70 since it was unsigned. The magistrates still found him guilty saying the presence of the roadwork cones (there were no roadworkers as it was night) should have been enough. Total shambles! I'm not looking forward to my hearing in a few weeks.
Your friend needed a better solicitor...
@@boilerhousegarage hang on so he was still speeding even if there was no signage, what's the problem there?
@@srpacific You're due for your next booster.
I watch a lot of long form content and most of the time my attention drifts off. At the end of this story o realized I just sat through half an hour and was enamored the whole time. What a fascinating and epic story with a fantastic ending!
Big compliment buddy. Thank you
I realized this was 32 minute video after reading your comment. Wow
@@tommydavies936 gripping story. good stuff you got off. And you know what .. i've triggered plenty of those speed and average speed cameras. You know, what those lads really seem not to pick up on ?? Irish (southern) number plates. Never got a fine. I guess it's too much paperwork. LOVE the fact, that you got a judge, that's a frequent Nürburgring goer. So great.
i was blown away reading this comment to realise the video was half and hour. felt like 10 minutes.
agreed it didn't 'feel' like half an hour.
That is one of the best CZcams videos I''ve seen in a long time! Very informative, VERY interesting, and well put together. Thoroughly enjoyed watching that!
I don't think I have ever been so engrossed in a video which is effectively a monologue. Very interesting and thanks for sharing.
I kayaked John O'Groats to Land's End in 2021. It was a lot slower and took 2 months!
I take it you went via the Irish Sea rather than the long way around?
@@danielseelye6005 Started on the east coast to Inverness, then the Caledonian Canal through Loch Ness etc, then down through the Inner Hebrides, Crinan Canal, Solway Firth. When I got to Wales, I paddled the River Dee to Chester the did the canal networks to the River Severn, then the Bristol Channel. Was solo so lived in a one man tent for 2 months.
Didn't get pulled over once, although I did bump into the coastguard a few times!
Huge respect. That's a hell of a challenge!!!
@@tommydavies936 cheers bud. It had it's moments!
I cycled it. Took me 10 days at an average speed of 12mph(ish)
So that's where the term "BIG WiGS" comes from. Literally 😅
I rarely watch stuff like this, but as soon as i listened to the first five minutes, I was super invested. Watched the whole thing from A to B, and I am really happy that the charges were dropped and he was given a fair trial. By far an AMAZING video.
Kept my WHOLE attention with this video. Great job and story telling.
This definitely makes the VINwiki stories “best of” compilation
This is a great story from a great story-teller, a complete rollercoaster of emotions. Well told (even though Cannnoball isn't something I'm really interested in).
Rollercoaster of emotions for sure. Thanks.
Title should be Britain's Luckiest Speeder. Everything seemed to go right for him.
A great story teller?! No offense intended to the guy, but he’s a horrible storyteller. He was all over the place instead of presenting it clearly and concisely. The story itself is great, but he told it poorly.
@@LuckyCharms777 I think a great story isn't so much about facts and logic, but entertainment value and I for one was entertained.
@@dougerrohmer
Yeah, so were the intellectuals who watched The Fast and the Furious franchise.
One of the top stories I've head on VinWiki. Congratulations on the outcome !!
Lol this lad is hilarious "it looked like VINwiki just sat a bus load down" referring to the Jury walking out lol
The question is, how did he beat the speed cameras? He didn't even get close to hinting how he did that.😅
We will never know...
A magician never reveals his tricks 😂
F1 braking and accelerating
Never happened. No proof. Just an exaggerated story.
@@tommydavies936hats off sir
Stroke of luck with that Nurburgring Judge! 👊
sounds more like Nuremburg judges. in other words kangaroo court.
@@manymany4879when you kick a man enough times...
You think the Nuremberg trials were a kangaroo court, I give up on humanity 🤡
Wow! I had no idea this even happened! Honestly an amazing feat of driving to be honest, and it's about time some good came back into British motoring like this!
40RA
Finding a judge who doesn't just blanket stamp what the prosecutor wants is as rare as a woman with good looks who cooks and cleans.
Hah! Say WHAT?? NO Closing Statement for the prosecution!? Now that is awesome
i cant believe this is a 30 minute video, didnt even realize that much time passed by the time i got to the end, great job on the story
Thanks for that. A really nice story. I look forward to the next episode.
Pal of mine held this record back in the 80's, he done the exact same trip in a souped-up Ford Orion, long before Social media.
This is easily one of the best stories on the channel. Liked the longer video too
Certainly something to think about as we pull out of the Red Ball Garage...
Moral of the story: borrow a GPS tracker from a friend, preferably one who lives outside of the jurisdiction of any potential prosecution...
@@beardoe6874leave a main phone at home 😂😊
Is there a SoundCloud or Spotify or any type of audio pages available for VinWiki??? This story is by far the best and most intriguing one I've heard outside of when Ed tells a story.
What an amazing story - best I’ve watched in a very long time
A fascinating story brilliantly told
Next week on VinWiki:
"I was the jury and found Tommy Davies NOT guilty!"
The thing about PC Mark Milton testing his car at speed, was that his initial acquital was subsequently overturned in the High Court 2 years later. He received no sentence as the judge said he had suffered enough from the 2 trials. In 2013 he crashed his BMW at 92mph during a pursuit.
'Suffered enough' 😮 only a Police officer would have that treatment!!! Did he face anything for the crash I wonder?
@@mozza19-lg6znwhy would he if it was during a pursuit?
I worked with a chap who reconned he used to get from Brighton to Stansted in an hour every morning going to work in a Jaguar XJ-S V12 5.3 Coupe. Cruise at 130 to 150 MPH, never got accused of speeding over twelve months.
When I first saw how long this video was, I thought, I don't have enough time for that. Wow! Am I glad I did watch it. Such a great story!
Prior to watching this video, I knew nothing of this situation. After watching, what a relief that he was cleared!
But why? It sounds like he did it...
@@LetoDKbecause if they can play the game of bending the rules to lock him up when they don’t have proof, they can do it to anyone. Unless they can prove it, they can’t lock him up for it, period. And they almost made the stumble of invalidating the whole speed camera network, which would’ve affected millions of tickets/people.
this is a great story I was on the edge of my seat and cheering!
Wow what a story it helps that you were so articulate and likable imo
One of the best stories on here, first person account was awesome. Enjoyed the longer story!
This will be a Hollywood blockbuster one day!
This was en EPIC story .... I sat here and watched the entire thing .... I'm glad he was found not guilty and able to enjoy his new kid .... Helluva win 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Wow what a story! Thanks for sharing
Oh man, the new judge reserved the case. I gotta strap in for the rest of this tale.
This was one of the most engaging stories I have heard in awhile it needs a movie
@16:56, that Falcon is stunning, great seeing them outside of NZ and Aussie
I would love to see a vid explaning how he got through those average speed cameras. Or what the average speed real was if he tuck some back roads
Thank you for sharing that incredible story! So cool and fortunate to end up with that particular judge. Glad to hear that justice prevailed, can't imagine how tough and expensive that ordeal would have been. But one of the all time best stories from VINWiki for sure, hope to hear more from Tommy!
That's messed up they can give you a ticket for a fuel cell. It makes me happy to be an America because they can't do that here.
crazy how we can get tickets for that, but car companies can sell cars out of the box with a roll cage and harnesses (which they can’t in America as far as I am aware)😅
Laws are silly
They can do whatever they want.
Depends on the state. California can and will state ref you for anything that isn't stock. Rims, exhaust, intake, suspension, wings etc.
Na they just plant drugs on u here in America and ruin ur whole life
They CAN, they just don't. It's technically illegal to modify your car in most places, just not enforced
What made me smile was the fact the security guard was happy also “good ladddddd” lol you go get your car
Are the laws regarding these charges significantly worse in the UK than the US? Those possible sentence lengths seem crazy.
It sounds like they were trying to say his radar detectors and however he defeated the cameras were "perverting the course of justice". Seems harsh!
@@ProphetAndLoss I see. That’s ironic since there were more lies and deceit in trying to prosecute than what he may have told.
Perverting the course of justice is a wide reaching offence and doesn't just involve lying under oath in court. Contempt of court is a separate offence and would usually be the one applied for lying in court under oath.
Also, the sentences given out are usually far below what is quoted. They like to use the maximum penalty rather than the average/typical sentence
@@ProphetAndLoss It's not specific to lying in court, it applies to any action you may take to evade prosecution. So things like using illegal jammers and removing your number plates / using fake ones.
There are similar laws in the states if you do something to cover up felonies
Followed this case at the time. Never knew it was this wild!!!! What a story! Well done Vinwiki for getting him to tell his story.
Been waiting on this one. I love these types of stories! Thank you Vinwiki!
What a fantastic story at every moment, so many twists so interesting!
The absolute power of judges and "I will not be undermined" attitude is the problem with the legal system. The USA is the same way and there's basically no way to remove judges for corruption or behavior.
I'd read that screenplay. Thanks for the show Ed and Co.
Fantastic story. I love a good courtroom drama, unless I'm involved in it. Had my gut turning imagining your stress levels. Sounds like you did a great job representing yourself.
Love the photo of the yellow Australian falcon next to the Audi
Best story in a long long time! Congrats Mate!
This was a fantastic video, best VinWiki i've seen in ages!
This was absolutely fascinating. I'd never heard of this case, I pay no attention to MSM, so hear about it like this was great. A rare victory for Justice.
This fellow might be a good driver , but he is an even better story teller !!!
I almost didn't watch this, because it's a longer video and I'm on my lunch break, but I couldn't stop listening, amazing story! So happy for the driver!
Thanks Man. ❤
@@tommydavies936Why did you choose the S5 and not RS5?
@@XVXC-M8 same reason as anyone else right? Not enough pennies 😂
Same haha I was waiting for my bike MOT still haven't left 😂
Wondered if he was going to appear on here. Great story and the press were after him over here in England for this mad lad.
Fascinating.
Very well told courtroom drama.
This story had me on the edge of my seat for 30 min. straight.
5:22 Of all the judges, I get the one that goes to the Nurburgring twice a year. 😂😂😂
Genuinely one of the best stories I've heard on this channel, bravo good sir 👏🏽
If you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime. Simple advice really.
Glad it worked out in your favor mate! I hope the prosecutor's office had to pick up your court costs? Well done mate... hopefully you will be able to break the record soon (with your phone off) Greetings from Australia
great story it lock me up until the end.... keep the good work..
That was well worth watching!
What a great story! Real Christmas vibe!
As much as I like to see a story where a normal bloke gets one over on a bullshit system, let's be honest you did it and you know you did it.
yup, he was a bit of a Naughty schoolboy.... he at least get '6 of the best' with a nice stinging Cane, like we got back in my day....
And
@@rabbitfootedkitty1339 and nothing, he got away with it so who cares?
This is not bad. Jesus speeding laws are a joke
@@MrAddiebaddie I agree, I'm just saying he knew he did it.
Amazing outcome and the man represented himself as well.
What a remarkable story, glad to hear the way it was resolved!
I'm from the UK - This guy is a total legend in the car scene haha. I doubt we will ever see anything like it again, not least thanks to every single motorway being one of those stupid "smart motorways", welcome to the UK the home of the SPEED CAMERA -_-
Now combine that with terrible roads and mods basically being illegal unless it is a ricer mod and you have Belgium. Inspection people aren’t the best though so you can sneak mods past them
How did he beat the cameras?
laser jammer @@henrik1743
@@indy5280j'ai regardé une émission belge avec la police et ils étaient fiers d'avoir arrêté plusieurs jeunes pour avoir conduit avec la drogue dans le système, tout a la fin de l'épisode le texte sur l'écran indique que tout les tests préliminaires était fausses et aucun des jeunes avait consommé, résultat du labo mdrr
@@InvagPrunelol
15:38 "She was giving me the evils..." LOL
Hearing this along with the speed cameras and putting someone behind bars for just speeding. Is insane for the amount of time that they're trying to put you in for...
The US did the right thing when they told King George to bugger off. It's incredible how anti-freedom the UK has become.
They try to make an example out of speeding here.
@@drillingig2368Except even they can’t fix a charge to you for speed alone, amazing!
@@drillingig2368While people that seriously injure or even kill people in crashes, through simple driving incompetence, get off with suspended or very light sentences because they weren't speeding, as if that should even be a factor.
welcome to the UK, where muslim rape gangs go free, but a speeding ticket will get you in prison.
Best story in ages!!!
Love it!!!
☺️
What an amazing story teller. Incredible work
My story involves a particular Ferrari BB512 that was converted back to Eurospec, and then modded to make even MORE power. I worked for The Sports Car Exchange back in 1979. Our customer wanted his car back "as quickly as possible" one Friday. I made it from the Eastside of Dearborn, MI to the west side of Lansing MI in 48 minutes. 97 Miles at an AVERAGE speed of 121.25 MPH. WHAT a drive! Done at night.... WOOOPH!
Brilliant story, so well told!
That was just an awesome story!! Had me laughing at the prosecutor during the trial.
Great job!!
Now my all-time favorite video!
Just gotta appreciate that amazing storytelling - truly engaging
Wow, what a story. We have it pretty good here in the United States. In many countries, you can not modify your car
Compared to the rest of Europe the UK is pretty lenient, you can pretty much do anything as long as it doesn’t impinge on safety or emission control measures. People have road legal drag cars with thousands of horsepower, and the more changes you make the fewer rules you have to obey, plus we don’t have to wait 25 years to import a car, you can buy any car from any country at any time.
@@Jabber-ig3iw You can still import in the US; it just had to meet the State's emissions and safety standards (some cars can't at all). The 25 years is when even in California, it becomes exempt from that requirement.
That's a great video can't believe how good he gets me enthralled in the story.
Great story just think of the lengths time and money the prosecution put into this case is crazy, fair play to the young man representing his own case and winning 💯
Great video. Thanks for sharing.
The OJ of speeding
If the driving glove dont fit you must acquit. 😂
Love how you told this story.
The fact you got a San Bernardino chp that was that awesome is rare. I have had a few run ins with them and always had a slow down and I don’t want to see you again.
Got to say - amazing story telling, i'd enjoy this in movie format
Audi driver? Suspicion of speeding? Guilty straight away 😅.
Seriously though. A very well told, immersive, eye opening story, during which, no matter how thorough, articulate and meticulous he is, he still had to admit in the end that he was helped along by huge dollops of 'lady luck'. (And a Petrol head Judge).