Vocal Thickening Trick in GarageBand iOS (iPad/iPhone)
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2024
- How to add some thickness to vocals in GarageBand iPad and Garageband iPhone using delay and pitch change.
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00:00 Intro
01:04 Basic method - stereo lag time plugin
07:51 Intermediate method - adding pitch changes
17:55 Advanced method - delay, pitch and 8 tracks
19:57 Merging to one stereo track
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Pete Johns Hey Pete, I am from India n I’ve been following your videos from a long time, and I try to solve the problems I face n learn new things in GB just with your videos... I want to thank you for ur contribution and request to continue the good work... One more thing I’d like to ask, now as I am mixing, want to know how can we place instruments n give them depth to make it sound stereo manually?? Using presets in audio recorder is a bit shallow n a point comes when u have used everything n it’s not satisfying u.. I’m sure u have faced this already, but m not able to find related video? If u haven’t already, will u make one? Please
Regards from India ❤️❤️❤️❤️
@@pmnegative Hello my friend! This video should actually help with this, as I show how to use a stereo widening trick with delay and pitch change to get a thicker and wider sound in your vocals and other tracks.
pete johns can u help me i need help with plosives on my vocals bc the plosives sounds get stressed
@@PeteJohnsMusic thanks for replying ❤️❤️
Thank you for not leaving my answer unattended. True, I am not strong in English, but I try very hard to understand you through a translator. I am from the city of Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk (Sakhalin Region). I plan to come to America when the situation is better. I'm just now starting to understand. Do I need to download a plugin in order to install it? I searched for it and found it on some site, it was true that it was downloaded Rouhghriderr2 (2017), but I did not find it on my list. But when I downloaded the version of RoughRider3 from your link above, then I found it in the list. I was so happy, I couldn't get it for so long 🙏🙏🙏🙏
Easily the best Garageband tutor on the internet! Top man!👌👍
Cheers my friend.
UK rap artist here. Just passing by to thank you for providing such valuable lessons to the audience. Very transparent and easy to follow 👍🏼
Earned a new subscriber today after 2 hours of browsing
Thanks my friend! Welcome to the community.
I’ve learned so much from you over the past year. I had been using COOL EDIT PRO since 2003, so, switching to an entire new DAW and operating system after nearly 20 years (as well as taking a 7 year break from music) was quite an obstacle. I still haven’t been able to get the sound that I’m looking for, which is super frustrating, but you basically taught me how to use this DAW from day 1. Thank you for all the time you spend on these videos.
Hey Shane. Thanks for the kind words my friend. And so glad to hear I was able to help. Keep at it! You’ll get your sound.
I won’t use this for now but I need u to know that whatever query I have related To GarageBand I always find
Your videos helpful. I want to thank you for the efforts sir. 🤘🏻
Thank you my friend. Appreciate your support. I hope you get value from the other videos on the channel and consider subscribing if you haven’t already. 👍
Brilliant, you never miss any details. Answers any possible questions I had along the way. Great stuff!
Thanks so much. Maybe I should leave some bits out to get more comments?! 😄
Thanks for taking the time to provide feedback.
instead of copying and pasting the same vocals I LIKE. to just record multiple times
Yup. Works best.
Your videos are an absolute game changer man. Thank you so much
You’re very welcome my friend. I hope you get value from the other videos here on the channel and consider subscribing. 👍
Hi Pete, many thanks for your entertaining educational videos which has got me started again after 30 years of being away from computers and music software.
I see your channel as being one of the best resources for music production and of course it’s your personality that’s binds it all together. I feel lucky I came across your channel. Keep up the good work and hoping your channel keeps growing.
Thanks so much my friend! Really appreciate the kind words.
Just brilliant Pete! I have done some vocal doubling but had no method to my madness beyond trying to make it sound good. Need to get me a template set up. Thank you for all your insightful posts.
Very welcome my friend. Thanks for your support.
Thanks Pete. You’re the best!
Cheers my friend. I hope you get value from the other videos on the channel and consider subscribing if you haven’t already. 👍
Awesome tutorial as always! Thank you!
Very welcome my friend.
Loving this video surely going to try this out dope job!
Cheers my friend. It’s a super cool little trick and can really help any thin sounding vocals.
Great video, very informative and well presented. You’ve got another subscriber Pete.
Thanks my friend! Welcome to the community.
Very helpful Pete, liked video and saved for reference. That stereo lag really is a great plugin = easy to use and effective.
It's so simple but SO effective.
Very nice lesson - thanks, Pete.
You’re very welcome my friend. I hope you get value from the other videos here on the channel and consider subscribing. 👍
Very nice Pete, thanks so much 🙏
Thanks my friend.
wow this is really really helpful for the starters like me! thank you so much
Very welcome my friend. Glad to hear.
Super tips Pete! I’ll create a GB song just for this effect so I can drop in my lead vocal. Will save lots of time trying to double my vocal. Thank you 👍
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Great video. I learn so much from your videos. Thanks again.
Nice one my friend.
Thanks for the video. I enjoyed it! 🤙
Cheers Tim. Always a pleasure my friend.
Bets you tuber of 2021 please continue being awesome you made my day
Thanks my friend. I hope you get value from the other videos on the channel and consider subscribing if you haven’t already. 👍
Love it, thanks!
Cheers Cees. Always a pleasure my friend.
Thank you man
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Thank you, you taught me so much!
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Very useful thank you sir 🔥🙏🏾👌🏾
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You re the best Pete!!
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I'm looking forward to watch it~ I need some tips for recording my first song!
Nice one! Hope you enjoy it.
Love your videos 👌
Thanks my friend. Appreciate your support.
Pete ya done did me a service. Thanks!
Very welcome! Happy creating.
Wow thank you
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Very welcome my friend.
Thanks cool!
Aways my pleasure mate.
Brilliant! Definite Elvis Costello vibe on the vocals👍
Thanks my friend. Love me some Elvis (Costello)
My lyrics are straight from my head
They may not make sense but it feels right
Totally fair
All that matters
Nice!
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Wow! Cool and very useful. Can’t wait to give this a try. I suppose the same-ish principal could apply to ‘panning’ between left and right speakers? Ie duplicating tracks and switching between..? Thanks Pete. Helpful as ever!
Yeah, the skies the limit when it comes to possibilities with this stuff.
Loved it, thanks sir ❤️
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Pete Johns your subscriber from 2 years ! Learnt alot from you 🥰
Awesome!!! Thank you.
Hey Pete - I've heard on other channels that duplicating the same vocal with delays or pitch shift creates phasing, which is generally undesirable. This is why the favored method is actually recording two separate vocal tracks trying to be as in sync as possible. Donald Fagen and Freddie Mercury are two notable examples. I wonder if there's a way of doing a more randomized thickening by varying pitch and time on a single track programmatically... would probably be an add-on.
There are a bunch of vocal processing apps and plugins that you can try, but like you I tend to find the best results come from actually recording another take. The natural variance really works well.
very catchy song 🤓
Cheers my friend.
Another very well structured video and simply explained process Pete. I havs also dipped my ear into learning from Warren Huart @Producelikeapro, but I've often found it difficult to translate his big boy/big DAW methods into Garageband iOS. You did a great job on that translation on this topic. Thanks!
Great to hear. Yes, I thought it would be complex and require a lot of hacks to do in GarageBand. I guess it kind of does, but there are parts that are actually made easier my GarageBand’s limitations.
The hardest part here for me is getting the right pitch 😂
Though, I’m on iPad.
Anyway, love your videos! They really help😃
I hear you! And thanks for your kind words.
Hello! I really love your videos about garageband on ipad. Could you make a review about how to transpose a song track?? Please!! Thank you so much 🤗🤗🤗🤗🤗👐👐
Hi there. In GarageBand you can only transpose virtual tracks. This video shows how - czcams.com/video/Ag9_C8O5k0o/video.html
Amazing video Pete! Love your channel!
Question: Do u recommend any Audio Unit Extensions for vocals? (free or paid)
Thank you my friend. I tend to use mostly stock plugins personally. Compression, reverb, delay and EQ. I do generally use the LRC5 EQ plugin however as I find it mush more flexible than the standard visual EQ.
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Totally! Thanks for coming along to the live show today too.
@@PeteJohnsMusic Hey, thank you! I enjoyed it immensely, and it was really helpful! ☺️
Towards the end, it would be good if GarageBand added groups, so that all those tracks could be on just a lead vocal, but you press a down arrow or something, and they all come back. Even with 2 or 4 it would help
Yeah 100%.
@@PeteJohnsMusic Way better organisation in GB if that happened
Great tutorial. Is there an AUv3 that does similar things to what you’ve done in the video?
Yes, there are a few vocal apps like "Vocalive" that do similar things which you might want to check out.
So that first DAW of the 90s has evolved or something? Can I still get Cakewalk? I’m just glad I don’t get the “Optimizing Performance” WAIT anymore ! Good move guys ! In this move however, the stereo imager itself boosts the gain instead of just setting the balance knob on the track. And rest assured Pete’s got some other key 🔑 tricks to push those vocals into another world 🌍 He could show the inventors a trick or two !
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hi pete, thankyou for shared this!
is there any way to do pitch vocal corection in garageband?
Yes. Check out this one. czcams.com/video/dxiDwlZci4M/video.html
You mention saving the vocal settings as a template - how is that done? Great instructional video btw.
Hey there. So, set up all your tracks and then save as something like “*Template*”. Here’s a video showing how. czcams.com/video/wJ-LrSaIvEE/video.htmlsi=KZ8KdkEpSCRrApkZ
I learned today lol
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thank you for this. is this possible on garageband for Mac ?
Yes, you can follow pretty much the same principles on any platform. Al these plugins are available on Mac.
Pete is there a way GB to group a bunch of background vocals so u can take them in and out when u want ?thx for the help mate
Unfortunately not in GarageBand. At the risk of sounding like an Apple advertisement, the new Logic Pro for iPad does have grouping - logicipad.com/
Great Video... Can you show the best way to templatize this setup? Also, After setting up the 8 tracks once can we merge them and save as a voice template.. will it retain all the delays set when we import them into a new project? I am trying to simplify and avoid 8 copy pastes every time I record a voice...
Hey there. It's an interesting question? I'm not super sure there's a quick and easy way to avoid the copy and paste. You can set the eight tracks with the delays and pitch plugins and then just copy and paste your vocal in.
You know what might be good? A standalone project with these set up so you can copy and paste in your vocal 8 times, merge it down, then copy and paste that merged track back to your original project?
@@PeteJohnsMusic I think you nailed it!! That may be the best way to do it.. I will definitely try it out... Thanks for all the amazing teachings on music and garageband. I am learning a lot from your channel!!!
@@PeteJohnsMusic Is there a way to exactly fix the AU Pitch numbers.. lol, when I slide left I get -8.5... after numerous tries I still am not able to get the -3. :(
Hi Pete. I have a problem, some of my songs in garageband stored on my ipad pro were apparently damaged, without my doing anything. Unable to open them. Here is the message: The song you are trying to open is damaged or has a format not supported by garageband.
Do you have a solution ?
thank you in advance
Hey there. Haven’t come across this specifically myself. You haven’t tried transferring via a cloud storage, used on a Mac or opened on a newer version of GarageBand?
Hello can you please help? I still use GarageBand iOS and I predominantly plug hardware instruments/keyboard in via audio, however i’d like to set my hardware keyboard(s) so any data can be recorded via MIDI externally into GarageBand from hardware keyboards including my Yamaha Genos. I’d also like to know how to set midi recording for other apps plug-ins to coincide with GarageBand so again it can record in midi instead of audio? Thank you very much in advance
Hey there. Not quite sure exactly what you’re asking sorry? Maybe provide some more info and ask over at the GarageBand Users Facebook group. studiolivetoday.com/gbu
Your first "easy" method for thickening is a lot of work. All I do is duplicate my vocal track and pan each track about 8 degrees off center to opposite sides. Thickening done! Then I duplicate a separate track for effects. much easier than all the work you are doing.
Yeah, it’s not the easiest option is it? Use what works for you!
Can you use this technique on guitar audio tracks?
Can’t see why not? Audio is audio.
Hi Pete I realised to late - I started the track at zero and when I email it, it clips off the first few notes . How do I move everything forward say 2 bars and keep it all in synch ( some tracks have on;y a few bars .) I can see how to do it if all the tracks the tracks start and end the same but not if some tracks have small sections without spending ages aligning every section of each track . Should have watched your video before I started
Hey there. So sounds like you may need to just add a section at the start of your project? This video will help - czcams.com/video/qUW6mD5EdQw/video.html
Hello; does garageband have different versions? I dont see some of the elements u refer to
This is GarageBand iOS and is different from the Mac version. Make sure you e updated to the latest version of iOS and GarageBand as there have been some changes over time. studiolivetoday.com/GarageBand
Sorry Pete, another question.
I've just used this method with some pleasing results, on a rather weedy, thin vocal. But I found the AUPitchshift app impossible to control to get the right numbers and balance. The interface / slider was a nightmare. I even tried using an external mouse instead of the touch-screen, but it wasn't much better.
In the video, you seemed to have a similar problem of "inaccuracy". Any tips to overcome this?
Are there more controllable alternative pitch changing apps that could be used instead?
Cheers!🤘
Hey there my friend. So a couple of options here. You can have a few of these “vocal preset” tracks saved in a template project and then use this for new songs.
Or you can use a paid price shift plugin.... except I haven’t found a good one... yet! Watch this space.
Pete Johns Hi Pete. I've already made the presets as you suggest. But the number of cents in these presets is a bit off what was recommended as I couldn't control that accurately enough. So finding a better app for pitch control will be well worthwhile. Thanks!
Can we add scho etc after the merge?
Yup sure can. You can remove all the effects and then add them back in afterwards.
Hey, the one thing I’m having trouble with is copy and paste. For some reason it almost always goes wrong so I end up so frustrated and giving up. Do you have any tips ?
Hey there. I talked about this earlier today in the Q&A show - czcams.com/video/NsYiQ_bYAJY/video.html
I have some other videos about copy and paste you can search for at studiolivetoday.com
Love the stereo lag...when I follow your instructions...and click up at Audio Unit Extensions...I don't see this???
Hey Shelly. You’ll need to download the plugin and install it first. czcams.com/video/Qf4Lw7emFnQ/video.html
You might benefit from my GarageBand FAQ and guides here - studiolivetoday.com/garageband
hey i bought a interface to use my microphone with my ipad and the problem is i want my headphones to plugin directly in my i pad but i dont hear them when my microphone is activated and when i activate my headphones it uses the microphone on my headphones and not my real microphone do you have a solution? i bet theres something in garageband you have to do but i dont know how to solve my problem by myself right now i would be happy if you can help
Hi there. Just use headphones that don’t have a microphone and make sure they are plugged in to the interface headphone jack and not the jack on the iPad.
Hi Pete, a question about the fact you turn automation off.
I get your explanation about independent control of volume on the new track.
But, by definition, doesn't the new track have variation of volume along the timeline, just like the original did which is why you used automation? If so, doesn't this mean that the thickening effects won't be even on the track along the timeline? Won't the quieter parts still be relatively thin and the louder parts get disproportionately thicker?
Or am I missing something?
Cheers mate!
Hmmmmm..... I might be missing something in your question actually? I might need to review the video and take another look.
Pete Johns hi. When you made the copies of the original track, before you applied the stereo delay and pitch shifts, you made a point of turning off automation (which was copied over by default) in the new tracks to allow you independent volume control of the new tracks.
As I said in my original comment, presumably you had automation in your original track to deal with volume variation. But then you don't deal with it in your vocal thickening tracks. So won't the end result of thickening be uneven along the timeline of the track?
@@infarction8840 I have the same question. It seems very counterintuitive to turn off the volume automation in the copied tracks.
You can't adjust the volume slider when automation is turned on.
From where can I get the stereo leg?its not available on the list
Stereo lag? czcams.com/video/Qf4Lw7emFnQ/video.html
Is this your savage eye style or is it a problem? Genuinely Asking.
Savage eye style? That's a first! Just a prosthetic - nothing to worry about.
How would i make one voice sound like a group of people. E.g. backing vocals from an ensemble. I don’t mean with harmonies or anything just multiple people singing one thing. Would i have to record multiple tracks for however many people would be singing or is there an effect/plug-in?
Hey there. Yes, especially if you want to sing the same thing you’ll need to generally just record it a bunch of times. There are some vocal apps that can do some cool things like Jade Start covers one this video - czcams.com/video/eMwNODjZAs8/video.html
you could just duplicate the sound file multiple times and change the pitch of some of them
Can those be merged on an ipad ?
Yes, merge is available on iPhone and iPad. studiolivetoday.com/garageband
I can’t find the stereo lag plugin on garageband
Link is in the description, or just search “Stereo Lag Time” on the App Store.
Is there a way to use a mouse with GarageBand while using my iPad?
Yup sure is. I use this in all my videos. This video will help. czcams.com/video/PJCGENM7zj0/video.html
You’ve got all the answers Pete …thanks so much for your help .
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Hi 🙋🏻♂️, I don't have the roughriderr2 plugin listed. How do I find it?
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@@PeteJohnsMusic Thank you for not leaving my answer unattended. True, I am not strong in English, but I try very hard to understand you through a translator. I am from the city of Yuzhno-Sakhalinsk (Sakhalin Region). I plan to come to America when the situation is better. I'm just now starting to understand. Do I need to download a plugin in order to install it? I searched for it and found it on some site, it was true that it was downloaded Rouhghriderr2 (2017), but I did not find it on my list. But when I downloaded the version of RoughRider3 from your link above, then I found it in the list. I was so happy, I couldn't get it for so long 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@@PeteJohnsMusic As far as I understand, I can't install RoughRider2? Only the higher version is Roughride 3. Right?
Or...:Maybe my vocals are a little bit thin, maybe I’m trying my best just to win, but my vocal intentions are always the best. 😎
Haha!!! Gold. 🙏
I dont have those fancy plug in ext???!?
Check this video out. czcams.com/video/3srJgoPniVs/video.html
Bro please. Help me. I do RAP beats i need a EFFECT TO pan the Chorus verse Violin. From Left to right. And from right to left. Panning automatic.
This should help you out - czcams.com/video/d-YUR1espa4/video.html
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Did Garageband update today? 2/2/21
I don't believe so? Still seems to be version 2.3.10.
My Garageband needs to optimize performances every 5 minutes but it is worth it
It can be a bummer if you have lots of tracks and effects, and older iOS device... or both.
I like your videos in general. This one is very interesting, too. But sorry, the pitch slider on iPhone is impossible to control.
Yup, it is. Takes a lot of trial and error.
@@PeteJohnsMusic Do you know another plugin with the ability to control the pitch. It must not control pitch automatically, only just shift the pitch a little bit up or down.
When I go to Plugins EQ > Edit...I have no free slot. Where do I get that?
You’ll need to remove something by using the red minus first. czcams.com/video/0gqgaoX8Y_o/video.html
@@PeteJohnsMusic - Thanks!
My man, can I do this on my iPad?
Yup.
@@PeteJohnsMusic can you help me out Pete, I downloaded the wide app, but I've got no clue how to use it on one of my tracks?
sadly i cant do that because my phone is old with old version of garageband too
Ah bummer! Something to keep in mind in the future if you upgrade.
i was having that same problem, but you can ask some friend who also has an iphone (on ios 13) to enter your icloud account and download garageband. Then when you try do get it, an option to download an older version will appear! Just did it on my 5s 😉🙂
Yup. I get is one of the methods I show in this video. 😁
my garageband version is 2.1, this doesn't have plugin & eq feature
Is there a "one knob" stereo lag time plugin for MAC laptop (not on iPad IOS)?
Not sure if Stereo Lag Time or similar exists on Mac. “Wider” is somewhat similar and is available on Mac for free.
@@PeteJohnsMusic I am trying to install Wider however, I do not see it in audio units. I've followed the instructions and it should be there but alas nothing so far. Any ideas on how to get this up and running?
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