AITAH for refusing to pay rent to my rich brother because he's rich and doesn't need money?
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- AITAH for refusing to pay rent to my rich brother because he's rich and doesn't need money?
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Don't even need to hear more than the title. YTA. Unless OP is staying for a few weeks and their brother isn't asking for rent, then sure. But if that's OPs permanent residence, they better be paying rent or find a new place to live. Doesn't matter if big bro doesn't need the money. It's called being an adult. Big bro is well within his rights to ask for rent and not want to be taken advantage of.
AITA stories usually have a twist.... the twist this time was that there wasn't one.
OP expects to be allowed to mooch just because his bro is rich?
more than a few relatives act this way but even some who you thought were friends. In those situations just think of it as, please go away money.
Yup, that seems to be it😂
Your brother doesn't want your money. He wants you to be responsible
Yes he is an a hole. He got into a fight with his dad, which is why he wanted to move out. His brother, out of kindness, offered him a place to stay to help out, and I repeat, TO HELP OUT. The brother gave him, what i assume to be, a temporary space to stay for free while he will find a a place of his own. But it's been already 4 months and still haven't moved out yet, so of course eventually his brother will have to charge him rent. He's being a burden living in the house meant for his brother's family. If he's gonna keep living there, he has to pull his own weight.
Huh? He'd be evicted SO quick.
Yes the asshole.
Just because someone else has money doesn't mean you are entitled to it.
You're staying in his house, if he wants some type of compensation for that... And a CHEAP compensation for that for what you're getting, and you want to be an asshole,
Get comfortable living on the streets.
With OP's mindset, the brother may have been trying to do it for OPs own good!
300$s rent would be a fricken dream.
Especially for what it sounds like he's getting!
I wish I could pay $300 rent
YTA, only because he doesnt need the money doesnt mean that you can just not pay. if the brother really needed the money would be ok to pay 600$ instead? no right? the rent is 300$, is 300$ when the landlord needs 0, and is also 300$ is the landlord need 1000$
also the brother is giving him 300$ per week for errands, im assuming errands arent even a job, so in a way the brother is basically losing 900$ a month by having him there, and if he had another person there he would be gaining basically those 900$ in rent from that person easily, but apparently is still not enough for op.
Plus, it's not like the younger brother pays for his food all of the time.
Easy. He's an a-hole. My brother pulled something similar on me. I'm far from rich, but I'm far better off than most of my family. He stayed with me 2 years and hardly paid a dime. I was trying to help him get back on his feet, but he spent most of his time playing video games in his room.
I just kicked him out two months ago when his unpaid rent reached $15,000. By the way, I was also paying for all of his food because he didn't have a job and wouldn't have been able to eat without me.
After I kicked him out, he convinced a friend who owns a couple homes to let him rent it cheap and work at his business. I'm sure that friend will get tired of him in a few years and my brother will ask to move back in with me. I'm going to tell him no, even if it means he goes homeless.
Good for you!
@@jacquelinecountryman2976 Thanks! Learned a valuable lesson. Don't just agree to help people, even family, without something in return.
Once people start getting free stuff, they get addicted to it. No job, no bills, no responsibilities. Hard to go back to a crappy job after a year or two of that, but that's where he's at now.
Man, reddit makes 4chan users seem sane.
Just because your landlord (whoever they are- and in most cases it isn’t a close relative) doesn’t necessarily need the money does not absolve you of the responsibility to pay rent. Your brother is requesting a paltry amount from you. Cough it up and be grateful that you don’t have to live on your own and pay at least 10x that.
this sounds fake as hell. I sure hope it is, this entitlement is legendary
is he a adult?
Depends. If you both agreed, then there's a verbal contract at the very least.
So now big bro has to pay for little bro's room and board forever? Because he agreed to do it once, after little bro had had a fight with dad?
I would sooner look at it from the other direction. If you don't care enough about your home to put your title to it in writing, and you don't care enough to pay any amount of money for it (he didn't even try to bargain,) then you don't get to turn around and say that kicking you out is a really big deal. Certainly not a bigger deal than you living in your brother's home, and apparently being enough of a bother that he puts pressure on you to move out.
YTA, you are a karen and that your brother has a lot of money does not mean you just can not pay rent because of it
At first, I was quick to judge OP as wrong. That was before listening to the whole story.
If there was no expectation of rent in the initial agreement, then requesting it later is an ALTERATION of the original agreement, and would need to be approved by both parties.
However, four months is a pretty long time to be living on someone else's dime AND receiving a (rather generous) weekly stipend.
AND either party has the right to REQUEST an alteration to the agreement - which seems to be what Theo did.
Lastly...
Setting aside one-quarter of that FREE MONEY to get in the habit of paying "rent" is more than reasonable.
So...
I still think OP is wrong. His brother is being super nice, despite not actually owing him a damned thing.
"bUt we'Re fAmiLy!" Get a job, Leech.
Sorry about the long post, but I wanted to show the thoughts behind the decision.
There is no agreement though, brother let him live in the appartement out of the kindness of his hearth. When doing something for this reason you can always stop doing it, whenever you please.
> "If there was no expectation of rent in the initial agreement, then requesting it later is an ALTERATION of the original agreement, and would need to be approved by both parties."
So anytime you invite someone to spend some ambiguous or indeterminate amount of time at your place, you're entering into an implied agreement to provide free room and board to that person forever? That doesn't sound right, does it?
To my mind, the concept of a verbal rental agreement is kind of wild. What sort of person doesn't care enough about his home to have his title to it put down in writing? Or if you don't care, then that's fair enough I suppose, but then I'm not going to care a lot either when you get kicked out.
@@xenonn7275 You're mixing up "contract" and "agreement", friend. A verbal agreement, also referred to as a "gentlemen's agreement" or a "handshake"... is still an agreement.
@@OptimalOwl "So anytime you invite someone to spend some ambiguous or indeterminate amount of time at your place, you're entering into an implied agreement to provide free room and board to that person forever?"
Not "forever", but otherwise yes. This is exactly how it works between me and a couple friends who live in my house (I own, not rent/lease). Initially, there was no rent. The idea was for them to stay until they were able to get on their feet.
After they were there longer than expected (courtesy of the 2020 economy), my finances were being drained by them residing with me. We (mutually) agreed rent was appropriate at this point.
So I'm speaking from experience. It's fine to be generous for a while, but allowing other adults to deplete my savings - no matter my starting situation - is not ok.
@@RedT...TheOriginal.NotANumber
You and your roommates sound like reasonable people to me. You helped out your friends, and when they stayed a little longer than intended, they agreed to help out. No problems there.
But suppose your roommates had not been so reasonable. Suppose they had said "nuh uh, we had an agreement and we don't agree to change it." What then?
And I mean yeah, if there was an agreement and you failed to honour it, then you're in the wrong. So since every reasonable person agrees you're _not_ in the wrong, then I think it's reasonable to say you didn't have an agreement at all. At least not in the normal sense of what an agreement is.
FAKE.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I hope so FFS