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I've never used so many memes in a video
Regular Black Metal Learning activities resuming next week
Had fun watching this one.
My controversial take is that Lords of Chaos is in a lot of ways a more accurate re-telling of Mayhems story than what we have in our heads. Sure, the film takes creative liberties, but the one thing it really nails is that Mayhem and Varg were just a bunch of kids doing dumb stuff, making music and trying to out evil eachother. The mythologised version a lot of people have in their head cannon is likely just as innacurate.
Maybe it's because I'm from Finland but here it's pretty laid back when it comes to opinions and tastes.
I have mine and my friends have theirs. I like this shit and they like that shit.
No good albums after Pure holocaust?!? Have they never heard Sons of Northern Darkness?
some people REALLY like early immortal
@@DevGohil Abbath and Demonaz have a total different riffing style,both great but i prefer Demonaz,on the first 4 albums,the new albums not so
Most black metal ideology is just larp.
Can’t wait to watch this
Awesome channel and it's a fun video. I would suggest maybe slowing down the pace a little on the next one. I'm having a really hard time reading the opinions on screen while you're already explaining your view.
yeah noted, was worried about that after i edited the video loool
Very interesting upload, it was appreciated since it certainly isn't your usual, but that made it worth while. And I of course am in agreement on your thoughts concerning Mayhem, Dimmu Borgir, and Darkspace (I actually have had -2.-2 playing in the background as I type this).
Yesssss if you have the chance to see Darkspace live they may even be playing it these days
Wesley Willis is Trve Rock and Roll
Sick video bro 🤟
It's always such a risky move to click open a video with title like that. Who knows what sort of NSBM shit comes up...
Black metal not having to be satanic, it being nature, pictures.. that nails it. Do you have an interview where he said that?
I have never gotten into Dissection. Just doesn't work for me.
Saw Blackbraid live a week ago. They worked better live than on recordings IMO.
One line in the video said that BM cannot inherently be leftist because it's all about hate. Yeah no. I'm leftist and there's plenty of things I hate.
DS it not black metal but I just love it when DS and BM meet. Perfection!
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I really do like these discussions about black metal, and what it is or isn't, things like that. Not necessarily hot takes or whatever, but it's extremely interesting.
For sure perspectives are interesting
That thumbnail killed me
Interesting video, even if it was a bit of a risky click for me because you never know how much comments about, uh, NS black metal will be in these types of videos (a side of it that I definitely don’t touch these days). I have a very unpopular opinion about Mayhem: Grand Declaration of War is my favourite album of theirs and the fanbase didn’t appreciate it that much because it was something totally different from the usual formula.
yeah strong album
That's a good take bro. The main riff off of the title track pretty much spawned an entirely new genre... People credit Deathspell Omega and Blut Aus Nord, but Mayhem and Blasphemer don't get enough credit.
@@Cloven137 absolutely! It’s also why there are enough people that like that era of Mayhem to ensure that Blasphemer’s more recent band Ruïm became a bit of a sleeper hit in the black metal scene when the debut album came out a couple years ago.
Black metal has become just another music genre too easy accessible for everybody.
i'd say it's definitely easier to access, but still quite small in the overall music industry, even in the metal scene
@@DevGohil yeah but it can't be compared to the magic it had in the early/mid nineties.
Its still great though.
But i rarely discover new bands that realy nail it.
The bands on ancient records do a good job on it.
100% but even then, not everyone likes the music.
I listen to black metal (duh), and I've tried to get my friends on it too, because I wanted to talk about the scene and music with them. Hasn't worked at all 😅
@@user-rl4tg2mr9n haha ,yeah its not for everyone ,most just hear the screaming and consider it as noise
Totally true.
krrrrr dähh krrr däähhh krrr shhhhh is my favorite drumming
Fascinating video to me highlighting the evolution of the genre, what it meant to a fan in the 90s and now maybe cringe to others.
9:09 and 10:42 LMAO! Entertaining video
The part about bands and their people being shitty is so real. I love the genre and it sucks that so many of them are racist or homophobic or abusers.
Metal, especially the extreme stuff, attracts the worst people. The genre has somewhat become a safe space for shitty people, and its allowed for shit to fester and twist what metal is. At the end of the day, it is just music, and it won't stop me from listening, but I wish it wasnt so
I draw the line when someones shitty actions or world view actually tangle with the music. I refuse to listen to Goatmoon etc because you cant seperate the music from the strist since the art is literally a reflection on the artists shitty beliefs.
No it doesn't. It attracts people who are unconcerned and couldn't care less about society... Then like seven years ago it started attracting people like you who have like an obsession with racism.
It does attract sick people also, but they are worse than racist.
You can not quell biology, you can only make someone sick and self destructive. None of us are different.
I like Watain but sometimes Iir could profit from faster tempos and more brutal riffs.
this is my coldest take, there are goods songs... then there are bad songs
True
8:53 dsbm misunderstood once again.
🤷♂️
@@DevGohilI’m sure we can both agree most dsbm bands you’d come across are pretty cringe for sure.
Deffo lmao
@12:30 VERY IMPORTANT
IMO BM is at its best when it's exploring emotion such as wanting to blow your head out with a shotgun or looking back at the past and reminiscing on it instead of " hail Satan and Hitler, do crack and abortions too"
Also for me and a lot of other people, dsbm is therapeutic because the extreme sound complements the lyrics of the song in how extremely grim it is and it helps people know that there not alone in these feelings. Although it can make it worse with bands romanticizing depression or encouraging suicide.
cough cough shining cough cough sorry... Cough cough
I think the absolute requirement for black metal is to have a beliefs in SOMETHING mystical, metaphysical or spiritual. I think to achieve genius, you'd probably be clued into a greater reality. Shining is one of the good DSBM bands, because he believes in something. I think he's an asshole and I punched him once on stage lol, but the sickness in me respects and loves it.
@@Cloven137 hell yeah fuck niklas
Both dsbm and war metal are awesome
@7:11 RATLORD
the war metal monkey 🤣
MÖNKE
This may already be in the video. But mayhem has one good album 😂
Corpse paint is essencial in my opinion. But yes it can look incredible stupid.
Dissection is outstanding btw
Unfortunate you don't like Shining. Their Halmstad album is excellent and is one of the rarer black metal albums where the bass is audible.
Yeah never got into em
So, when it comes to DSBM, I can see both sides of the coin. It's probably my favourite subgenre of Black Metal, but the issues are clear as day.
A guy like Niklas Kvarforth is just embarrassing because he actually acts like he's promoting s**cide as a good thing.
On the other hand, I think music or another art form can be a good outlet for coping with mental health issues and can help others who feel the same way by letting them know they aren't alone.
However, this works best in conjunction with actual therapy, and you should always seek therapy first as a main priority.
For sure
Preferring Ghaals era is a wild take.
it's not on spotify so people just tend to gravitate to the non-gaahl albums these days
I like Nargaroth
Behemoth isn't even a black metal band they are a death metal band cosplaying black metal.
3:41 this one was suggested by Afra, wasn't it ? 😂
Hahahah 😉
Everything up to that one was mine lmao, needed to stir the pot a bit
Can u make a dev gohil black metal sub reddit?
I’ve got a discord server if that helps
im probably blind or missed it somewhere, but whats the band at 10:05?
no band on screen, but the music is my own
Here is a controversial opinion for ya!! "Moving thru Black is one of the best USBM bands to come along in a long time!! (full Stop)
Here's my unpopular opinion (as a fan...).
You can listen to a regular song and go "those vocals were _very Black Metal"._
But, to _be Black Metal_ you need to have your guitars set to either A (Cold+Clean) or B (CRRSSHHH).
Synphonic bm sould learn form symphonic deathmetal and symphonic deathcore.
How can you dismiss Raw BM!! Granted there is a lot of shit out there but amongst it is some proper relevant stuff like Tormentor and Crafts total eclipse
The best ‘raw’ album is 1349s liberation
@@DevGohil check out The Darksend Antichrist in exelsis, if you’ve never heard it I think your like it, it’s in a class of its own but goes nicely with Crafts Terror propaganda
I don't care about the political opinion of a band if Iit is not represented in the music.
agreed
Unpopular Opinion (i think): Mayhem is good but the vocals are unlistanable.
on all albums?
Yes
I agree the vocals are terrible
My unpopular opinion: Marduk's albums starting with La Grande Danse Macabre through to Wormwood are shite. Their good albums start with Serpent Sermon.
I think Serpent Sermon is their best album
Deathcrush is kinda overated, but DMDS is not. Also, without Bathory, there would not be any Burzum or Immortal.
Agreed, tho I find myself liking Deathcrush a little more than DMDS
@@DevGohil I like the Deathcrush songs more in the live versions with Maniac and Blasphemer than the DMDS studio tracks, but between Bathory's "Under the Sign of the Black Mark" and "Deathcrush", both released in 1987, we all know which is the winner and was more influential in the long run. Even Varg's most famous pictures copied Quorthon's poses from that album, something which is not really talked about.
Snorre "Blackthorn" Ruch doesn't get near the credit he deserves for his influence on black metal.
Belus is AS good if not sometimes better than the classic 4 Burzum records
Dimmu Borgir and CoF have some great moments but usually get ruined by extremly bad moments. For example the interdimensional summit has an epic riff but is ruined by vocals. Or Gateways is ruined by the female vocals. In CoF this speaking voice drives me crazy. CoF has also many epic and dark moments which just get overshadowed by happy sounding riffs.
hahahah AHH SHIT
I think satanism is just a symbol for black metal. It is not creative ro use it but it is also not overdone in my opinion.
Unpopular Opinion: Blackbraid is overrated buuuut has great riffs
Few songs I listened when I first heard about them were great. But after listening one more song I always just get enough of them.
Saw them live a week ago and they worked better live.
Tried listening them more on a way home and got bored.
@@WMfin I thought the first album was really creative and interesting and ate it up a bunch. The second album was just sort of... fine? But ultimately forgettable and I've rarely listened to it. I am sure it would work much better live.
Nah they just fuckin suck outright
Say what you will about the "big" bands like Behemoth, but they don't have normal jobs, and selling all that crap is what lets them do it. That's how you make a living doing music these days - to get people interested in buying your knickknacks.
Yeah, it’s why I can’t bash em they’re doing what they want 🤷♂️
American and french black metal? Hm idk prefer the scandinavian bands
Man, this video made me feel young again.
Here's a few :
Black metal becomes better by the year. The second wave is brain-dead, along with Norwegian black metal in general. The first wave is even worse...
Poland, Iceland and France are the kings of the genre.
NSBM is awful, but I honestly respect it more than its opposite.
Black metal requires spirit/insanity. Materialists are incapable of genius, because if they had it, they would be clued into a grander world.
Most of the genre is filled with people who live in the shadow of a few mostly narcissistic 16 year olds, but at least they actually innovated...
Some of the comments are written by scene babies. They don't understand perspective and time scales. Talking crap about Mayhem and other innovative BM acts is like saying Deep Purple sucks because they don't do blastbeats. BM is toxic and its fanbase is unbearable.
Clean vocals? NO!
Burzum got me into black metal. But Varg is just...
Would have been better without the online presence.
Shining (both of them) are just like the majority of Watain, absolutely boring as utter shite.
Unpopular opinion: American black metal is better than Norwegian black metal.
Atila is better than dead and more unick, atmosperick black is boring, most black metal sounds the same and lakes memorobol catch riffs.
Burzum is as slow and boring as gregorian chant
I see Burzum has been covered but to be clear, I'm critical of the music rather than his lifestyle choices