Which primarch is coming back next?
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Bring back Dorn so he can imperially fist the unworthy
Come and fist me rogal!, oh, no, wait, that sounded better in my head
Yes
He’s the great fister of the empire
@@InterrogatorchaplainAsmodai*yeeeeeeees*
I want Rogal to imperially fist me
I hope Jaghatai Khan returns, he's just so cool and not uptight like other Primarchs, and the White Scars are a really interesting idea.
I could see him coming back old as fuck, but millenia of fighting in the Web Way have increased his speed powers to ludicrous degrees, to the point he becomes the defacto Angron stomper. He's so fast that on Angrons 8 week respawn timer, he can travel anywhere in the galaxy to meet and defeat him.
@@alastor8091 Time in the Webway is like the warp messed up, so he isn't likely to age.
@@DarkApostleNoek that can go multiple ways. You can spend a short time in the Warp and come out hundreds of years later, you can enter the Warp and come out _before you left_ , you can enter for ages and come out on schedule. Lion is old, but super old Kahn embodying that wise old Chinese Monk trope would be sick.
Him and corvus have been hinted
He can’t, because if he does, that would mean the web way is now working, and that’s the end of the grim darkness.
I think if they bring Dorn back they should do it opposite of bringing Perterabo back. They can bring the Imperial Fist/Iron Warrior feud to the tabletop properly. I've also got a hairbrained idea for what they should do with Rogal, to match him opposite of Daemon Engine Prince Peterturbo: make Rogal a Primarch Dreadnaught.
Think about it: 'ol Rogal got pretty messed up when he "died". Put together some sneaky group of loyalists who got what was left of Rogal out and have spent the past several thousand years trying to put him back together. Ol' Peterturbo comes stompin' out of the Warp to lay seige to... something only to be stopped by some giant yellow dreadnought of a pattern never before seen.
Frikin awsome I love it.
GW. Doing something properly...
It's a good idea and that's why it's not happening.
So basically, something similar to TTS Dorn's design.
Perty should seek out and melt down some greyknight terminator armor, so he doesn't become a full on hellbrute.
@@26th_Primarch No
A Fulgrim/Clonegrim double release would be amazing. Clonegrim is the Chekhov’s Gun trope writ large across 40k. You don’t introduce such a character just to have him stuffed away in a museum doing nothing. Sooner or later, Clonegrim will be released. I believe this wholeheartedly.
The writer who did that storyline has left GW. And other writers usually dont mess with lore that someone else has created, so it is quite unlikely
Yeah! GW never introduce something just to bench it forever right...right?
Yeah nah
Gw writers are currently attempting to beat there arch rivals (chimps with type writers) so are far to busy to pick up any of there plot lines
@@epiccoolawesomegoblinguyre6520
Meanwhile, GW writers: Not fair! Those monkeys write with 15 fingers and a tail!
I'm pretty sure Dorn disappeared later on, not at the battle of Pluto. I'm certain he was like the last Loyalist primarch other than Vulkan to disappear.
He was lost to the Aloha legion though. Just not Alpharius.
Its Been retconned i think
Yeah im Perttu sure they only found his hand on The aftermath and put MIA over him to The arcives
I thought he went MIA during the 1st black crusade
@@Tortle-Man Damn Hawaiians.
Lets be honest, we would all love to see Rogally Don-Don come back after his portrayal in TTS. Also, it would mean Perturabo would probably come out of his hidey hole and to be honest...he's the only traitor Primarch thats' truly interesting (unless Magnus somehow recovers his noble shard or something.) Remember folks..."The lemon is a mighty fruit: my favourite!"
Mood Kindred.
Nah. Boring ass primarch
I’d like to think it’s a Kumqat!
"I've been part of the infrastructure division in the Imperium for 10,000 years"
"AND YOU DECIDED NOT TO TELL US?"
"I made a vow of silence to atone for past sins"
"THAT. IS. JUST. FUCKING. STUPID"
@@redline841 I disagree.
I'm from the future and I can confirm Dorn is next to return.
Spoilers for the book:
When he reappeared and said "it's dornin' time" and then dorned all over those guys, I nearly cried. Chris Tester did an amazing job delivering that line.
nah, he first said "Good Dorning", then that happened
Actually that was a misprint, the real line is, "They are coming, dorn them all". I did cry when he Dorned all over those guys though, it hit hard.
Gosh dorn it you've spoiled it for me now
This is getting downright Dornagraphic!
omg but when they did the re release of the book because so many people didnt buy it but talked about it online, absolute masterstroke from GW
I think it would be a realky cool twist if they brought back clonegrim and fulgrim at the same time, even though its not super logical
It's plausible if Clonegrim is the primarch Trayzn has in his collection. I don't think GW made it clear what happened to the perfect clone after Fabius yoinked him out of whatever horrible vessel he grew in, so maybe they can do something with that. Just need other the other Necron big bois to convince/pressure Trayzn into releasing them. Also Fulgirm v Fulgrim would be very funny
@@86pp73 as shown at Cadia, Trazyn will release portions of his collection if he deems it necessary. Fruit for thought.
@@86pp73 He is in Trazyn's collection. That's confirmed in the second Bile book.
Can be plauasble they just need to write a story how they raid trazyn world.
@@helostories5017Trazyn threw a bunch of his collection at Cadiz during their last stand to help out. He knew that Chaos is not good for anybody. It’s possible that he throws Clonegrim out there to counter Snakegrim.
Possible? Yes. Is GW going to do it? God I wish. A humbled Clonegrim, arguably the best possible version of himself, taking on the worst possible version of himself would be killer.
I see Jaghatai coming back first, and how that fits narratively (Vashtor’s current nonsense being the obvious setup) and, more importantly to GW’s bottomline, in the tabletop. Looking at the Space Marine range, specifically generic HQs because we know what GWs about, do you see the thing that’s both missing and highly requested? Bike Leaders. You know what’s a total GW course of action? Temporarily giving a chapter a shiny new model exclusive to them to drive up interest before releasing it to the faction as a whole.
I think as the Emperor is getting ready to be more involved, maybe Rogal Dorn would be his next piece to come back, the Tyrannids seem to be unstoppable, the empire needs a glorious defense to hold the line
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I mean, I love me some Rogal Dorn and the Fisting he does on the enemies of the imperium.
Just narratively speaking. Games work shop needs to work spicing him, and the imperial fist/successor chapters up with more lead-up lore.
With the Dark angels we Had in 9th edition of them gathering up a fleet to find the Luthor and the large gathering of *the fallen* that he (and probably still is) mustering up with unknown intentions.
Then the great rift happened and the arks of omen series. We get introduced to the demon Vashtor. Vashtor came in and invaded the rock, then the dark angels invaded his home turf and got almost annihilated until The lion and blood angels showed up.
The white Scars have a Similar set up. We heard in 8th edition that Jaghati went to hunt down some Dark Eldar after the Heresy and theres been rumors and hints from the Dark Eldar themselves of somewarrior who hunts them in the webway. Maybe has shown up in Commorragh. Then we got a brotherhood (a space marine company equivalent for the white scars) in the webway currently looking for him.
Then the final thing is, Vashtor's fortress daemon world "Wormwood" is now able to go in the webway. It sure would be convenient for a primarch to throw a badass wrench in abbadon's and Vashtor's plans. Just saying, there's a lot of good set up to return and I cant wait to see if Jaghati had his warp powers awaken to become one with the speed force and actually fulfill that Duel him and Fulgrim talked about during the Heresy.
Remember that he is also one if not the second best duelist/swordsman among the primarchs, and that'd be cool to witness against daemon fulgrim.
Its also chance for games workshop to make the white scars pretty awesome. I'm have some faith given these events will have Jaghati be next.
I agree! In the end, lore is more important than what gift each primarch gets from the Emperor.
Speed Force Jaghati would be something awesome indeed
.... about the spicing up imperial fist successors does every one forget that the black Templars are children of dorn. Though I agree the codex complient fist chapters including the imperial fist them selves are a little bland.
@xerty5502 I mean this more so in the sense that there needs to be a lead up of some sort. Black templars are pretty badass, but theres no lore hinting that badassery to rogal dorns return. Something like a small crusade through the eye of terror against the iron warriors because they found the gauntlet of rogal dorn's hand or something like that should be an initiation to the lore of rogal dorn's return.
@@tevin4006 faith enough and eas not particuraly singling you out saw several other comments that seemed to overlook that I just decided it was worth a response when I got to yours
I agree with the Rogal Dorn theory with him not having a hand and getting the Emperor's claw. However, you're forgetting that Russ already has an artifact, the Emperor's Spear. So in terms of the order of artifacts that each primarch gets I think the artifact they get from daddy is the last thing on GW's mind when deciding their return. Also while the Wulfen theory is intriguing, some of us Vlka Fenkryka fans are really tired of the wolf this wolf that shit and our primarch being a literal wolf would not help. I instead hope they lean more into the Norse mythology inspiration having Leeman Russ be an Odin-like God of War possibly stabbing himself to learn the truth as that's what the Spear of the Emperor shows to whoever gets stabbed by it. I also think this theory is more founded as Leeman has been shown to know the Rune craft that his legion practices regularly communicating with the psykers in his chapter to guide them. Another thing of note, not all of the 13th great company succumbed to the curse of the wulfen, as they have their Wolf Priests there to guide their feral brethren. It would feel really dumb if some high-ranking chaplain/apothecaries could resist the curse in the warp yet their literal primarch can't. Also, the cognitive dissonance between Leeman communicating with his psykers through runes and then turning out to be a literal werewolf is kind of ridiculous even by Warhammer 40K standards, like the wulfen are supposed to be feral bloodthirsty ravagers I have a hard time imagining that if Leeman Russ was a wulfen he'd actually take the time to communicate with his sons instead of rip and tearing his way through hell.
In myth didn't Odin drink from a well
Russ could have interacted or fallen in the well of eternity
I like the Odin battle mage idea where Russ is now actually using his potent pysker ability
Isn't he the third most potent after magnus and mortarion
considering I was right last time (for once) with this logic, I'm gonna stick with GW releasing Primark's that would be actively fighting against chaos and the tyranids, but would be too self interested to help stop the inquisition or repair the Imperium. which means, unfortunately for some, it's probably gonna be Leman Russ....... I mean I'd love to be wrong... I miss Vulkan
also, going off your logic of Primarchs being released with versus boxes, how fucked would it be if one of the new releases went off the premise of "oh, those last 4 artifacts? yeah. Trazyn stole all of them. Salamanders vs Necrons, bitcheeeeeeees!"
I would actually sell one of my own limbs for that box
@@mr.toastable672 not if I sell mine first
i like your Dorn theory a lot. here's my Corvus idea for whenever he shows up: Guilliman or Lion are tracking Lorgar who has been seen in realspace(hes fleeing Corvus). They catch up to Lorgar's location just in time to to see a closing warp portal and a gigantic enraged bird demon trying to claw it open wider. this causes whoever went to attack Corvus, mistaking him for a greater daemon of tzeentch. chase scene bullcrap ensues for like 2 books that culminates in Guilliman striking Corvus with the Emperors sword but it does nothing, or Lion somehow figuring out that its Corvus through some memory of his fighting style from a sparring match they had several millenia ago.
I would say that same pattern with 4 Chaos gods may be applicable to Loyal forces, as we do have our divirgent chapters with their unique units (such as Deathwing, Sanguinary guard, Wulfen, etc), so it is logical to assume that these legions will receive updates first of all, along with their primarchs, because GW loves money.
If sanguineus was not confirmed dead he would have been the 1st primarch back
@@xerty5502there’s always the avatar of Sanguineous
Yeah, Roboute was dead at the hands of Mortarion, and the Emperor said no and resurrected him. Sanguinious body lies on Baal he has been showing up to both Dante and Mephiston. I wouldn't count the glorious hawk boy out just yet
I think Russ is most likely to return of the loyalist primarchs from a purely business point of view. Theyve brought back all the Chaos Legion splat codex primarchs (except fulgrim, but thats pretty likely to happen too), so I think theyre gonna do the same for loyalists. And theyve started with Jonson. Sanguinius is dead, and Templars, Deathwatch and (if you wanna count them) Grey Knights don't have a primarch of their own (I mean Dorn is the Templars' primarch, but yknow) so that leaves Russ.
I think the galaxy being cracked in half can be counted as whatever the wolf time is.
I think "Wolf time" is vague enoght to be anytime GW choose to take money from the Space Wolf players, so yeah, this is the most likely theory to me.
My wildcard prediction is Sanguinius. Why? It would make the in game history rhyme. There are already plenty of callbacks to the Unremembered Empire books from HH. And what's more iconic than having Bobby G, and the Lion be in friction only for the Bird boy to come and calm everything down as the new Emperor. My other hints him returning? Plenty in the lore actually, calling how his soul is still there, how his body is intact and how his speaking to ahm.. Certain people.
The Khan rides out of the webway in “borrowed” dark Eldar bikes and looks at Gulliman and says, “Sup”
I'd place some faith in Leman and Valdor returning at some point fairly soon since the not so long ago reveal of the King in Yellow suggests Valdor's return is soon(ish). And because of the relationship between the Apollonian and Dionysian spears, Russ's return has a possibility of being linked to Valdor as well.
You kinda missed Loyalist Fulgrim returning. Lore-Wise you can do alot more with Fulgrim than you can with Dorn, plus Loyalist Fulgrim and Fulgrim is connected to a lot more characters.
Loyalist Fulgrim returning arising from Trazyn's Museum (maybe from the final chime of the Bell of Saint Gerstahl) causing multiple parts of Trazyn's museum to fail like what it did last time. This not only results in Perfect Clone Fulgrim returning but maybe also the other notable stuff in the museum like the Krork or the really strong Eldar (i forgot its name). With Loyalist Fulgrim in the setting, and Daemon Fulgrim sensing his other self, Slaneesh could become a lot more active meaning the Eldar become more active as with the Slaneesh forces being distracted and mobilized by Daemon Fulgrim, the Eldar just send out another hail mary force to acquire the last chromesword
Just imagine the huge f-off war that could happen. Sons of the Emperor against Sons of the Phoenix, a mini civil war in each faction over their ideals, the SotE questioning of what they did was right and whether the endless pursuit of pleasure vs the joy of living for others, the SotP questioning their origins and showing that it’s the person not the gene seed that determines their loyalties, the best vs worst versions of Fulgrim, the Iron Hands seeking revenge for their Primarch, the Eldar aiming to end their war with Slanessh…
So much juicy material there.
Out of the lore i can only imagine a few people in the lore searching for Necrons tomb worlds... Honestly I'd wonder what would happen if out of all people it was Ciaphas Cain who finds Clonegrim. Given that he and Amberley Vail were last interacting with Necrons in recent books. The self titled Fraud meets the Artificial "fake" Primarch and both have the hugest identity/imposter syndrome crisis together, trying to escape Trazyn's museum vault and both arguing who's' worth more to our favorite Kleptomaniac. Though the thought of the outcome makes me fear a lot...
Loyalist Fulgrum with apparently demon Batman Naruto Corax!
Seriously I don't know if the dude was trolling everyone with the excerpt on 40klore on reddit. Yet he made an excerpt of a book that showed Corax hunting Logar. He wasn't human, and made all the Chaos Marines crap their suits.
Apologies if this has already been stated, but for the record, Dorn did not disappear right after he fought Alpharius (or Omegon, or a random Alpha legionaire), he vanished during a boarding action against the black legion, long time after the siege of terra. I believe it was sometime during the scouring, if not later. Good vid though, and having Lord Adornable back in the setting would be awesome.
Your good we knew what you meant 😂 👍
I think the chances of the Khan coming back are higher than most because of how the Arks of Omen ended and the end game of Vashtor being in the webway. Where the Khan just happens to be. But that's just my opinion. Keep up the good videos Arthur.
wtf is Vash the mechanoid typhoon gonna do against 2 primarchs actively trying to beat his ass?
With so many new books featuring the Black Templars recently, I would have to agree with you. We have gotten a Sigismund, Helebrecht, The Gods of Mars Trilogy, the 6th Dawn of Fire Novel, I would have to say that your theory is spot on the more I think about it. We haven't gotten any new Space Wolves novels lately, but we have been getting plenty of novels related to the Imperial Fists, s it makes sense that Rogal Dorn would be the next Primarch to return.
I dunno about most likely, but personally u think the most interesting to come back would be the Khan or Corvus, as they are the most likely to lead to interesting changes/challenges for the imperium.
If they are bring the primarchs back I wanna see Conflict within the imperium, not just them all work together
I want to like Corvus more. No justification, no real reason, I just want to like him and the Raven Guard more. Get on it GW. Get on it.
I kinda want GW to just drop him on the site one day. No fanfare, no trailer, just put him under raven guard randomly as a joke
@@evanfish4505honestly just having him show up with zero fan fare. Sneaking the fuck back in would be entirely appropriate. Just shows up next to Roboute on a battlefield. Would be some of the best writing GW could do for him
Him just popping in would be great. The Hawk hunts the Snake of course. However I think he’s to wrapped up in trying to kill Lorgar.
@@LoneSilverW0lfThe Hawk hunts the Snake as you say. Lorgar, while not physically, is indeed a GODDAMN SNAKE
Dorn can't get Big E's claw attached because he'd have to learn to wipe with another hand which would be hard
My kooky storyline was that Corvus would show up to help Russ in the Warp, and tell him that the Wolf Time was upon the Empire and that he should go back. Russ would ask, are you coming? And Corvus would say, I've got ONE more thing I gotta do, be right with you. And then he'd flap away, and Russ would giggle and say "Hahaha, big birdy" and back to the Empire he would go.
For the Khan!!!
Come on Rogal Dorn. Let the Imperial Fisting (re)commence!
I think it makes more sense for Leman Russ to come back with the claw since wolves have claws or whatever. Claws aren't really a fist it would be better for Dorne to come back with a massive power fist replacing his lost hand and wearing the emperors golden armor since Dorne's armor was also gold. That makes more sense to me at least. I like your idea too tho I could go either way
it makes more sense character wise too, with Dorn (and perti) being the armor of the imperium in a sense
Consider though: golden dreadnought Dorn with the Emperor's Claw
@@looneypeach OOOOOOUUUU actually could be pretty sick
Jaghatai Khan coming back, if done correctly, could be a super interesting story. The White Scars are one of the most thematically unique and cool chapters but for some reason GW hardly writes anything for them. We know Kor'sarro Khan crossed the Rubicon Primaris but that's about it in terms of recent major plot points. The previous Chapter Master, Kyublai Khan, disappeared into the Webway chasing the Dark Eldar that had raided Chogoris and never came back, so his successor, Jubal Khan, was named. Why not have a cool story where Kor'sarro goes into the Webway looking for the missing Chapter Master and on his quest he finds Jaghatai and they along with the newly freed captured marines fight their way back out and return to Chogoris in victory, perhaps we could even have some more human moments where perhaps Kyublai is forced to make a sacrifice for his brother marines and Primarch to escape? I actually like the idea of "The Emperor's Cape" being a genuine piece of artifact wargear, Jaghatai could totally wear it, that vibrant red would fit his color scheme and how flashy the White Scars are. Dorn coming back is also super cool ad opens up other possibilities, I like the idea of him being SUPER pissed and instead of donning the standard yellow of the Imperial Fists he instead puts on the black and white of the Black Templars and crusades harder than anyone has ever crusaded before, I also just want more Crimson Fists stories and bringing back Dorn means we could potentially get that, Primaris Pedro Kantor and the return of Alessio Cortez would be very much welcome, Crimson Fists are one of the best written chapters and they deserve more stories.
It would be incredibly ironic if Dorn comes back and gets the Emperor's lightning claws. The Primarch of the Imperial Fists unable to make a fist
It should 100% be Jaghatai. Dude went into the webway, he could just come back like that one day, and he could easily be the same age before he left. Also, having a decent, non-autistic dude helping the imperium would be a fresh breath of air
I'd love to see Jaghatai come back first because he's the wildcard and he would shake things up the most .... but i'm deeply rooted in yellow-bois squad so i'd be fine with Dorn too
If/when Dorn returns, I’d like it to be an answer to Peter Turbo. Petulant man children the both of them. They have some major beef to grill, and I’m making the popcorn.
Peter Turbo is more of a man-child than Rogal. Also I think if they do face off Dorn will have a clearer head and kicked Peter Turbo's ass
i totally agree. Also check out old john blance artwork of Dorn, he's wearing what seems to be an oversized lightning claw glove, so there's already precedence for him yoinking his dad's glove
That Rogal theory has legs, but only one hand. You've cracked it son.
If they bring back Dorn, they BETTER give him that Stache! You know exactly which one
I think that Corvus will be next since he is confirmed to be alive as a raven monster Batman.
Fulgrim hopefully will get the redemption arc he deserves with Clonegrim and the restoration of his soul.
I love your theory, it is a very sound one. I like it a lot.
The next Primarch returning is 110% Fulgrim with an Emp's Children range refresh and Codex followed by Lemon Russ at the end of 10th around spring 2026.
Alpharius and omegon disguised as dorn and fulgrim would be the most since to me
The magic claw glove has spoken.
I personally believe that if Russ came back he’d be less like a werewolf and more like a wiser Odin kind of character as opposed to the Thor he was during the Great Crusade and Heresy. He does already have a spear and Odin does have a pair of pet wolves so that could be represented by the 13th Great Company
"Love me or hate me, but don't ignore me"
Konrad being curzed into obscurity 😢
To be fair, as an imperial fist player i would love to see Rogal Dorn returning (even he now only have one imperial fist left...).
But from the financial aspect... and let's keep it real the financial aspect is very important to GW, it's more likely that Leman Russ will return next.
Why's that?
Well the Space Wolves are one of the coolest Chapters but haven't been updated for quite a while. The models are clunky, old and just outdated. It would make sense to me, that GW will bring out a WHOLE bunch of new Space Wolves models with their Primarch so everyone (including me) would start collecting Space Wolves again.
The point that he would probably come out of the warp as some kind of wulfen or "feral" primarch isn't that hard for them to turn into lore. I mean the last Space wolves models were Wulfen and everyone just said "okay cool" plus Leman was always the most "feral" primarch of them all.
So yeah. I'd be happy with both of them being the next one to return :)
I actually like your reasoning for Form being next! Would love to see For and the Khan return!
Obviously from my profile picture I’m a Raven Guard main and shockingly to no one you can guess where my theory crafting is going to go.
Now hear me out, these points only came together while listening to this video so if there are some glaring holes in my reasoning, I don’t care.
As all great thinkers do, I will begin by stealing some of your points for my own use. You are correct that as each new returning son comes home the first thing they do is take something from their tired old dad. The emperor’s claw has been the other half of his iconic wargear for decades now and so if anything is gonna be repurposed next it would likely be that. However giving Dorn the claw is like giving someone Coke when they asked for Pepsi. It’s kinda the same thing but not what you wanted. The use of claws have always be more tied to the Raven Guard, so it would be way more fitting for us to get it.
< insert reference to the aliens from Toy Story saying “The Claaaaaaw” here > Furthermore let me emphasize my point by saying this to all them fisty lads: “F#ck You! I want The Claw.”
Speaking of a possible Versus box I like the idea of Sleshy malding over the fact that “it” couldn’t have the other speedy bois but since we already know from the 30k model that Fulgrim is going to show off his snakey-snake body so I would imagine that 40k model will be similar. Well if the box has one deamon man in the box why not make it two. We have already had recent lore talking about the big bad bird man himself messing up people in the warp. Plus this would allow for some killer art of the Snake vs the Raven!
Additionally, with the release of 10th Ed, we have been told that the Raven Guard was going to be playing a very important role in the upcoming lore so hey why not capitalize on the expected new merch to release with their primarch and further bolster the profits the GW can be racking in.
Jagatai is the easiest to write to come back from a lore perspective and the Gatorade logo bois need some love.
If anything i think the order will be Fullgrim, wait a year then Jagatai, wait a year or 2 then Logar, then about a year after that Valdor will make a comeback.
I don't see Russ coming back until the very near endtimes with hopefully Corax popping up in the lore here and there.
However I do agree with you about the Emperors Powerclaw being a good idea
The next event is Big E standing up and getting a glass of water, and sitting back down.
I loved it when Dorn said: "it's Dornin' time" and Dorned all over the enemies.🗿🗿
As I said on Valraks channel,
I think Jaghatai will return after Russ (who will probably show up with Kaldor Draigo and Constantine Valdor with him).
Guilliman set Nurgles garden ablaze, which would have acted as a beacon to Russ within the warp, who would find the Tree of Life he has been searching for in Isha, freeing her from Nurgle before returning to realspace.
The return of Russ will come with a range refresh for the Wolves, and a significant power up for all four factions of the Eldar, with the Drukhari update narratively expanding on the Khan's whereabouts and eventual return.
Dorn the primarch who got me into 40k, I so wish he would he back
What about that Lions new book, where Big E literally asked him to bring back Sanguinius? There were hints with chalice and spear at the table near sick oll king, but those went over Lion's head.
Plot twist: GW plans to bring back Bobby G at LEAST 5 more times!
I'd love it if they bought back Dorn, realised he lost his right hand in some obscure lore piece and ended up with him having 2 left hands :D Much chortling would follow.
You know what will be next for 40k.............
THE SKAVEN
The Dorn claw theory is cool, but i hope they wait to release him alongside perturabo because of the obvious rivalry, the claw could also work for Leman because of the whole wolf thing, they could also just make new items for the primarchs, like they did shield
It might just be cope as a blood angels player, but I don't think Sanguinius is ENTIRELY out of the picture, cause I'm pretty sure he's spoken to Dante on more than one occasion, and even supposedly brought him back to life in the Devastation of Baal, though that's debated whether it was actually him or just a hallucination. If he came back, I think it would be in a more metaphorical sense rather than a physical one, since if he just straight up came back completely it would theoretically cure the blood angels of the black rage, and completely ruin the tragedy of his sacrifice during the heresy...
Angron: when earth shatteringly mad just doesn't quite cover it
Bro,people don’t like the white scars cause they don’t often know about the white scars. If khan came back that would be awesome
"Gather all the imperials fist and the imperials shall in fact fist"
- Mr bones
Roboute has the Emperor's sword, Lion has the Emperor's shield.
Vulkan will have the Emperor's hammer, THE Warhammer 40,000.
When I clicked on this I thought it was a video about TTS, since a plot point in that series is the Primarches returning as the Emperor slowly but surely brings them all back into his fold.
Can't wait for 2 years out when ferris is the new model with a release of an imperial daemons army for bones to scream I told you so
That moment when the reasoning for Dorn is also more applicable to Russ when he has a weapon of the emperor that is literally fate bound to him that he’s already used during the Horus Heresy. Shoutout the Emperor’s Spear.
Corax I think is much more likely than you’re giving him credit for. And that’s mainly due to his connection with Lorgar and Lorgar being the most likely traitor to appear after Fulgrim.
Hey Mr. Bones. I've read about Dorn, No one knows if he is dead or MIA. Apparently, the ship he was last seen on was reported to not have been made 600 years after his last appearance. And only his hands were ever recovered. Konrad Curse foresaw his death along with Sanguineous and Ferus' deaths. Then again on all his visions are arcuate. If you are right, I'm very sure he's probably locked in a cell on The Vengeful spirit, or on another important Black Legion Ship just to ruin his day or being humiliated. But then again, he did lead a siege with no sleep for months who knows what would happen.
Croax needs to come back with Lorgars head in his hand.
Fulgrim and clonegrim would be the best opportunity for some kickass writing. An entire character arc of clonegrim proving to his brothers his loyalty and love for their father, while trying to write the wrongs of the original Fulgrim... that story has so much potential.
Russ comes back and says the Cape still smells like the emperor
I feel like with Kahn they maybe could if there is a focus of him and drukhari cuz from what I remember he is or was in the web way and I think him and potentially a vect mini could happen.
Rogal dorn back with his truly "hands". Son, what the hand that you worship is? 😂😂😂
Imagine if sanguinius actually gets up from the coffin. Sucks up a bunch of primaris bois and says "i'back bitches" and proceedes to SLAUGHTER an entire hive invasion.
Yes a Emperor's children vs Imperial Fists box sounds really cool, but what I really need to see is Traitor vs Loyalist Emperor's Children Box.
I need that Fulgrim on Fulgrim violence.
Correct me if im wrong but im sure the Emperor's Armour was melted down and made into the Crux Terminatus? Seeing Rogal donning the lightning claw would be fucking awesome aswell.
The thing about Dorn is that he was completely into the idea of the Imperium and it’s ideals of anti religion stated by the Emperor, so if Gulliman has a tough time accepting how things are then there is a chance that Dorn completely looses it when he sees what has happened to his precious empire.
Or he’s been in the palace the whole time posing as a centurion getting cuddle sessions from the emperor
I wanna see it put to rest whether or not Perturabo is truly a daemon prince and if so to what extent? A knight-sized obliterator primarch would be hot
would LOVE to see our big lad Vulkan come back, Guilliman needs a hug
Fun add-on.
Though he carried Storm's Teeth into battle and is a master swordsman, Dorn's favored weapon is said to be a lightning claw...
I lost the source on that one. It's like a weird, off-hand comment level of lore, but it's why I've always been confused as to why the Imperial Fist don't have a lightning claw relic. The Fist of Terra makes more sense to be used by the Crimson Fists as the removal of the hit penalty and/or extra attack favors their more aggressive style of play.
It's funny how a lot of the fans where going crazy for any clue about wich primarch would go next after guilliman came, the lion came and after celebrating the cycle repeats itself, and probably will repeat until all the primarch get on the side of the imperium, if the hobbye survives that long of course
Bring back the Uuuh, Hi intro. Makes me laugh every time ngl
I think the big thing that also supports Dorn, like you said, his legion is one of the most popular. If we got Roboute and Lion as the first two, Dorn is likely too cause that would be the most financially likely decision.
Bruh when he said unhinged I wasn’t prepared for the ranking😭😭😭
I'd dig Dorn with Big E's lightning claw.
That's a fuckin' mental image.
Here I simply sit, waiting for an update to that miniature of Leman Russ from over thirty years ago now...
Corax has to come back when they want to make Lorgar a thing. I do think with the nids threatening Terra Dorn would make sense now. Plus I would love to see the last wall call all of the templars back so we can get an idea of exactly how codex noncompliant their numbers actually are.
You forgot about the one primarch who isn't a primarch, Constintaine Valdor
I believe that the next Primarch to return has to be one that was actually at the Siege of Terra. With Sanguinius dead that only leaves Dorn, The Khan, and Vulkan. I love your reasoning on why Dorn is next, the Emperor's claw replacing his missing hand is so believable i want it to be apart of a model, but I like the idea that The Khan returns and his only other brothers are the two that simply never trusted him.
I never thought about the emperor's claw thing with Dorn. That would be fucking awesome. Truly, he would become THE imperial fist. Amazing video I'm really hyped for Dorn now.
My guess is Jaghatai Khan. Vashtorr is going to accidentally release him in the Webway. The end of The Arks of Omen basically told everyone Vashtorr can create new entrances/exits to and from it with Wyrmwood completed.
We need another Traitor.
Confirmed Alpharius as Cypher
Legit had the same thought happen to me with dorn and it’s even the correct hand for it too
I would love to see clone fulgrim fully come back. I think so many good stories could come from it. An amazing story of redemption. The rebuilding of the true emperors children. A hatred for demon fulgrim and his sons. To have them battle eachother would be amazing
You may be onto something with Mr. Fister, time will tell.
Jaghatai Khan is more likely than you think, consider this for the story reason. Fulgrim is getting shit on for not doing much and when he does it usually ends poorly so in order to get back into Slannesh's good graces he goes and attacks a large group of Dark Eldar that are watching over an oddity in the webway, maybe with all the stuff happening in real space a new hole opened up long enough for him to make his way in. He arrives and finds the Khan trapped in a time bubble. Stuff happens the Khan gets released, possibly getting a bit of help from emps and brought back to real space coming back just as he was ten thousand years ago
I'd had the same idea a while ago about Dorn getting the claw, he would also make one hell of a trifecta with Guilliman and the Lion in terms of getting the Imperium's shit straight.
After hearing your arguments, I would posit this: The two most likely to come back are Rogal Dorn and Jaghatai Khan. And the reason is that they would serve similar purposes in the narrative. Let me explain. The single biggest problem the Imperium has right now is the chaos rift going through the center of the galaxy. Jaghatai Khan and the white scars are all about moving from place to place, with the return of their Primarch I think they could find a way to bypass the rift. It might be a dangerous way, but that would be a legion that could travel freely in the galaxy. Rogal Dorn on the other hand, the imperial fists were/are MASTERS of fortification. There are only a couple stable paths through the rift. Rogal Dorn and his revitalized Imperial Fists would take custody of these paths and fortify them nearly to the level Terra is fortified. There by securing stable, but still limited, travel through the rift.
thinking about fulgrim and khan in a versus box reminds me of clonegrim(while we talk about clonegrim, in trazyn collection i remember was theory of vulcan also being traped there)
Dorn makes the most sense, especially for the triumvirate of Guilliman's "Imperium Secundus" story. Helps rebuild the empire before the traitor's return to wreck humanity. Russ would be too much like the Lion, doing his own thing while hunting down threats. Besides, Russ and Vulcan both claim to return during a "specific time/event" when they will be most needed. So, I see them returning at a later date.