Check out how STIFF Tesla Model Y P OEM shocks are compared to the Tein EnduraPro Plus adjustables!!
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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
- In this video we compare several OEM Model Y shocks to the Tein Endurapro Plus dampers.
2022 Model Y Performance / 2023 Model Y Performance / 2020 Model Y Long Range
ALL COMPETE AGAINST THE Tein EnduraPro Plus Dampers.
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0:00 Intro
0:29 Comparing Front Damper
1:22 Comparing Rear Damper
2:49 Rear OEM to Tein
4:44 Front OEM to Tein
6:48 Compare 2020 to 2023 - Auta a dopravní prostředky
I got the teins for my car thanks to you. Any model 3 or y owner who doesn't have these are seriously missing out.
Very cool! Thanks for making this video had no clue this was an option and very affordable I would imagine this was much more expensive. Good to know I have options thru your shop.
Great video guys!
Such a useful video. Thank you
Great video and nice workout ! Thank you
Thank you for the demonstration. Im learning more about these vehicles little by little.
I hope to make a tesla channel for products and modding my own tesla. Looking forward to that day
Excellent video, something nobody else has done that I've seen so far
We are picking up our first MYP 2023 in a couple of weeks. We will drive it this summer, and if the driving quality is disappointing, we might consider swapping those 21" wheels for a 19" or 20".
I can’t emphasize enough how good this video is. I’ve been having serious issues in my 2022 Model Y performance suspension with severely harsh rebounding and poor ride comfort. Come to find out after a recent service center visit my rear damper had failed and was bottoming out. The car has had a very very harsh ride for such a long time, I was relieved to hear the service technician found the problem without me even knowing the rear damper had failed. I’ll be crawling under the car in the morning to check that part number!! Thanks for the awesome video 😊😊😊
Fyi my MYP has 28k on the odometer.
That is so kind of you to say!!!! Let us know if we can help improve your suspension even more.
I have the 2023 Model Y Performance and the ride is a bit harsh. The 21” wheels probably contribute to this. On My Model 3 Performance, I installed the Mountain Pass comfort coilovers. They seem to absorb the bumps better and the lowered look is a big improvement visually. I might upgrade the Model Y suspension later this year.
Wow you guys are suddenly the best channel for Tesla suspension info! Would you be able to do the same damping rate comparison for the Tein Type FLEX or Ohlins Redwood Grand Touring? I'm shocked (ugh) this is the first time I've seen such a comparison. The other option would be to use a shock dyno, but this is so much easier to see.
Amazing, you already made that video! Flex vs Endura Plus: czcams.com/video/JfSBOj0xwls/video.html
Thanks for this. Compression and rebound are two different actions. You can adjust both in some setups. Also, high and low speed damping are different. High speed compression damping refers to small bump or square edge damping and not to the speed of the car. Low speed is wallow.
ditto. We can only show so much in this very unscientific experiment. At least it provides some insight and helps people to see the evolution of Tesla shocks as well as the aftermarket option.
Thanks for comparing these shocks. Can you please compare 2023 Long rage Shocks to TIEN?
It will not be as soft as the tein at the soft end. We will have to wait for someone to upgrade before we can do that but we already know the results since we have done in car comparisons.
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Great vidéo, that's amazing to show the differences. For best comfort on the MY it seems that setting zero is the best on the rears. For the front do you recommend a higher setting or zero as well ?
just remember that zero would be 16 clicks back from full stiff. not until the knob stops. It might go up to 30 clicks but may void warranty if done. I don't think zero is always best. There's always a compromise. You want comfy but stable so you'll just have to play with them a little.
Be interesting to see a proper test on a damper dyno
Shoulda measured how many clicks the endura pro plus was in relation to the stock damper's rebound
What about the 2023 Model Y Long Range ? Do you think they are even more softer than the 2023 Model Y Performance ?
So what springs are we pairing with these to further improve the ride (for a typical SUV ride - or smoother)
you don't need to. OEM springs are fine. The issue is the shocks not the springs.
so in this video coming from a 2023 myp. to match the rebound on the Tein to factory suspension. 8 clicks or so? i would have loved to see what setting made them go up at the same speed
I do not know but the Tein fronts even at the stiffest setting I believe are softer than yours. This won't help you see the compression curves though.
Good overview! I think I'll do this to my MYP rears.
FYI your title has a typo. It should be "Check out how" and not "Checkout how." Checkout is where you go at the grocery store. "Check out" is the verb/action.
fixed, ty. had to remove an ! just to make it fit within 100 letters. We have some rears in stock if you haven't gotten them as yet. zevcentric.com/collections/model-y-coil-suspension/products/rear-only-tein-endurapro-plus-adjustable-shocks-model-y-awd-rwd?variant=43835304739061
Great information. Is there a national chain you recommend installing the shocks to the Tein’s? I’d like to say I’m handy, but I’m not.
We stay away from chains and focus on the local independent "race" shop. A shop that focuses on aftermarket suspension. BMW or Subaru shops seem to be easier to find.
@@zevcentric great advice!!!!! I love shopping local better anyway.
@@backtolife8509 we can supply the parts but I suggest finding a suspension specialist who is more familiar with damping adjustable shocks if that's what your question was referring to.
Following this chain to even understand how to find a good specialist locally.
G'day Mate,
Love watching your reviews from Down Under. Could you advise if TEINs would be comparable to a Model X fitted with Raven air suspension?
The reason I ask is because I am a 21 year Aussie Veteran who suffers a severe spinal (neck) injury, so naturally vibration and deflections from road surfaces are a major problem and consideration for me.
I would be grateful for whatever advice you can offer please mate.
Cheers
Peter
@Canberra Australia
I do not believe this would be the same as having air suspension but it is better than factory for sure.
Our clients have said it’s about a 30% increase in comfort.
G'day Mate,
Many thanks for the quick response, which is greatly appreciated. A possible 30% improvement might just be the ticket.
In addition to your professional advice, a bloke by the name of Smith undertook a lot of research and trials and produced a recent video where he replaced the front uberturbines of his 2022 MYP with 20" uberturbines rims from a M3P, which he claims is pretty close to the same ride quality of an S or X air suspension. See here:
czcams.com/video/OmYhrJAJiUY/video.html
Not sure if that is quite correct, and particularly so the Raven suspension, but his trials and advice, together with yours also, add considerably to our understanding.
Again, many thanks for the video and advice mate.
Cheers
Peter
It seems there is no provision for keeping the dust boots on the rear shocks, is there any way around this?
You can be creative and make it happen. The oem bumpstops are what you need to retain the dustboot but since there's an internal bumpstop it's not needed on the Teins.
Do you need to transfer over the Yellow OEM bump stop to the Tein rear shock?
not required since the enduras have an internal bumpstop.
What month build was your 2023? Mine was built in early October. I heard the change in suspension was in mid October.? Hoping I have the newer suspension
I took delivery end of dec. You may have to look at the part numbers on your rear shocks.
Do you happen to know the exact part number for the 2023 comfort suspension?
Do I need the rear camber arms for my model y performance?
In our opinion, always!!!
@ZEVcentric USA I’m interested in TEIN Flex Z Coilovers Kit for my Model Y. Do you expect TEIN flex Z to be pretty durable? I’m just your average driver with some spirit here and there. I’m planning to keep my Model Y 100K+ miles. I’m looking for durability and low maintenance. I had my Model 3 on T-Sportline Springs for 60k miles without any issues.
Please email us ZEVcentric@gmail.com with your location and if you have owned coilovers before.
@@zevcentric email sent!
Question - should I use bump stops from OG shocks on new Teins since they have internal hydraulic bump stops?
Yes it is required. Tein makes a note of that now.
@@zevcentric Isn't that OG bump stops can reduce the shock travel distance so that drivers can't get that full 100% experience of new Tein shocks? I saw some people slicing bumps by half (in height) to get that travel distance till the hydraulic stop to get that full smooth experience. And sliced OG stops are enough only for extra safety cases if hydraulics fail.
@@juozo-virtuve I can only advise you on what Tein suggests. A lot of people have not been doing things correctly and damaging the internals of their shocks. You should speak with your local Tein supplier or head office for further support. I believe you are not in USA.
We have a 21 and 23 MYLR and the newer suspension is still terrible. Yeah it's a bit softer but it's still stiff as hell and way bouncier than before. Want to install coil overs but worried about warranty.
Unfortunately that is a valid concern. Doing the tein shocks alone however with stock springs should not be an issue.
The warranty will cover the parts of the car you didn't change unless the new parts damaged otherwise warranty covered parts. Shocks don't affect the drive unit or the battery for example.
Test drove a 2023 LR Y last week, with no performance one available to test drive, my mom liked it. Ordered a 23 MYP today.. did I make a mistake? I'm fine with stiff suspension, but now i'm worried my mom will ride in it and not be happy... is there that huge of a difference?
Yes LR is much better. If you got a P like me then get the tein shocks and all is well again.
I had a 2020 LR and now have a 2023 P. The ride of the P feels way better than the LR. The LR felt too bouncy whereas the P now feels a bit softer on bumps but less bouncy and more absorbent if that makes sense.
Are the Tein shocks electronically adjustable from inside the car? Or are they only adjustable by the mechanic that installs them into the car?
Note, if you measure the spring stiffness, you can infer the viscous damping from your tests. That can be used to model the ride response to road bumps.
Thank you for your videos.
The adjustable shocks do not have enough room with the factory mount and chassis to install the motor. Only the Tein coilovers are currently compatible.
What about 2023 MYLR? Is that the same shock as 2023 MYP? Springs the same or lower on the MYP? OR is it becuase of the larger diameter tires?
They are different shocks and springs on the P and LR.
@@zevcentric Thanks for the confirm. This applies to the whole range of MYP and MYLR from 2020 on? You don't happen to have a resource for part numbers do you? Or a place we can reference?
Do you know that coil springs play 80% of softness in the car
That has not been the case with these Teslas due to other factors that play with the Suspension
Rishie is so strong (heavy)
LOL. I blame rona and the Model“O” we get from Costco. 😅
Testing rebound without spring
Compression damping depends on speed and you think your arms are strong enough to test that?
What a joke
The focus is rebound and to show changes Tesla has made in prior years. Just showing, in a crude fashion, that you can see a correlation between the rebound speed and the iterations Tesla has made to make their suspension softer. If you test drove 3 different years of Model Y you can understand how this crude demonstration will correlate.
Do you guys have a recommended setting for the TEINs?
That is all user based. Once an order is placed will we follow up to go through a list of questions and give our best suggestions.
Does anyone know what the average cost is to have the Pro Plus shocks installed?
That's the question of the century and really depends on your location. Please email us zevcentric@gmail.com with your location and if you have placed an order. We will do our best to assist you but no promises. There's a lot of businesses that charge Tesla tax and people still opposed to the EV transition.