Tesla Model Y Suspension Too Stiff?
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- čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
- The Tesla Model Y Suspension is widely considered too stiff so I came up with a solution and tuned the Unplugged Luxury Coilover suspension to perfection. Here is my journey and some tips you can use to make your Tesla ride better.
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LR Model Y owner since 2020. My first suspension adjustment was 18” Aero wheels with 235/55-18 Pirelli Scorpion Verde tires. Now I’ve added a SF Racing coil over set up front and rear. Lowered the car about an inch. Initially set shocks at zero. Speed bumps were a nightmare, highway was great. This week adjusted shocks to 10 on the 0-32 scale. Love the ride.
Thanks so much. It explained a lot about why the Y model is so stiff. We almost returned ours. Specially, is so rough for the people sitting in the back. Also, I noticed that it depends on the quality of the roads as well. It is a lot worse with roads with potholes.
Thank you amd sooo glad you made this vid. I also have a 2020 LR Y with 40k miles. Ordered Unplugged coil overs in June of 2021, delay after delay, finally got them in February of 2022. Got them installed in March and it was all downhill. The product they shipped did not match the photos on their site (they’ve since updated after complaints) and it did not have the lowering capabilities that they claim (also since updated). Long story short, they said you could “slam” the ride height but the most the rear could do was barely over an inch. Their advice to get even lower was to excessively increase the preload to essential squeeze the springs down… which make the ride unbearable. After some back and forth, they admitted their exaggerated claims and agreed to send me a new set of inch shorter springs. While this did allow for a lower drop, it required dramatically increased spring rates, which again… makes the ride overly harsh.
Advice to others considering coil overs, do your research and go with Mountain Pass Performance.
Definitely true with respect to the Y going over bumps. Seems like the Y has solid axles. 18 inch wheels from tsportline is on the list. Look forward to seeing the differences between the upp and mpp coil overs.
Tire pressure helps. Tesla recommends a range from 39-45 with 42 being the middle. I would lower your to 42 from 45 where you are riding and then 39 if that's to stiff. I would play with this before a new suspension.
Around town 39 for comfort, road trip 42-45 for efficiency.
Ciao
I agree 100% with the Michelin tires being better for ride quality. My wife and I both have a Teslas, hers have Michelin tires, mine have Goodyear and her ride is much better than mine.
I just bought a MYP. I'm interested to finally experience the suspension IRL (as my son would say). Will keep your advise in mind.
Great video, thank you.
FWIW I just got a 2022 MYP and I don't think the ride is bad / stiff at all. I'm also coming from a large, 3 row SUV with a floaty ride. My MYP has the Michelin pilot sport all seasons.
One other thing, I have driven a 2020 MY LR for a weekend Turo rental, and I did find the suspension in that car very harsh compared to what's on my 22 MYP, so yes, I agree, Tesla has made some adjustments.
Hi there Kyle, I am due to pick up my 2020 true model Y performance tomorrow morning at 10 AM and watching this video made me have second thoughts of possibly canceling or rejecting the car. I’m glad I read your response. So you think the 2022 model Y performance isn’t that bad of a suspension compared to the long range? I had the 2021 long range up until a month ago and even though that suspension was harsh, it didn’t bother me that much. I’m hoping the new 2022 model Y performance will be what you said which isn’t that bad. I’m hoping that Tesla did do some updates on it
I have no complaints with the suspension on the performance. I think it rides great. No complaints from my family either on daily drives or road trips.
Kyle, I came from a VW GTI to 2023 Model Y long range. I hardly feel a difference, but my wife and a few friends felt it quite bumpy in the passengers seat
Probably my biggest complaint about the Y is the front/back rocking you get on a concrete highway, i'm curious what your thoughts are on that with the unplugged performance suspension, or if it's more the short wheelbase of the vehicle that is the issue. I live in Nebraska where we get freeze/thaw cycles that can lead to some pretty rough roads so this may not be an issue in your area.
For those with the MYP you can get 295 tires for rear and move the 275 tires to the front. This is by far the best upgrade you can do to the MYP with the 21" uberturbines. The tires that come stock on the MYP are not the correct size. Switching to this setup gives a better ride, better wheel protection and overall a much better look. The stretched look on stock setup is awful on all levels.
agreed, def needs beefier tires
Agreed, this made a massive difference over the terribly stretched summer tires. I’ve heard you can go as thick of a sidewall as 275/40 front and 295/40 rear but I was a little nervous and did 265/35 and 295/35 and it still makes a massive difference.
What would be the actual reason Tesla would have the suspension so firm for the non performance models? Is it more efficient? Is there a bit less room for travel with bounciness since the cars are already lower to the ground than average vehicles (for efficiency)?
my 22 MYP is smooth when you're on highways but on backroads and at slower speeds going over bumps etc you can def feel more jolts and shifts but its not too bad. I would love to try a new suspension but spending 4k on that is not in the budget at all
Thanks for the update on this, Gjeebs. Our Family has a Model Y LR, and a CX-9. It blows my mind how I can get into my YLR and love the experience, but turning over a speed bumb in a parking garage or a bump in the road can send me jostling around or feeling like the car is hitting the road like a rock. I know this sounds dramatic, but a dip in the road on a texas street near flood zones can be harsh. When I get into the CX-9, the difference is immediate. I know... I know that the battery pack is heavy and a whole bunch of other things contribute to the differences. I just wanted to say that you may have me looking into an aftermarket kit for our YLR. Thanks for continuing to update us on your experience with it since the day you installed it.
You got it! And I know exactly what you mean about the dips. Like I said in the video it won’t make it perfect but it is better
I definitely miss my CX-9 wish I could of kept both!
You should mention for those new to Tesla that the Model Y Performance has a much different ride than the standard Model Y Long Range. Edit: I did see your quick reference to this close to the end of the video.
Please compare the unplugged coilovers with the MPP's. I find the ride quality in my M3LR very poor and bumpy. Wanted to buy the MPP's because of their German KW suspension background. And I have heard they are better then the unplugged ones. Great video & information!
I will
I live in Fullerton, CA. Is there a place I can go to have new coil over installed on my Y? Also, what brand model of coilover do you recommend? TIA.
With a softer tire or smaller rim (more rubber) you will be sacrificing range. It may be just a couple of miles per charge, but it absolutely will make a difference as it does in the MPG of my internal combustion vehicle. If you live miles down a gravel road however... it might be worth the tradeoff.
I wonder if softer suspension makes any measurable difference either in range over all or regenerative braking efficiency. I suppose the location of the motors and if the vehicle has traditional half shafts (or CV axles) linking the electric motors would come into play, but again, dunno.
I clicked the like button :) I also ordered the Mountain Pass Comfort coilovers
I’m going to get one without adjustments (cheaper and more comfortable version per MPP). Would you mind sharing your experience at least briefly? I guess you have an adjustable version?
@@NitroZakis actually went with the Tein Adjustables. The were a little less expensive and the fit and finish is excellent. the ride quality is 100% night and day. I did use some MPP control arms though. HIGHLY recommend them!
Thanks so much for the info. Really looking forward to having one of those installed. @@teslatim78
Same thing here just got a brand new 2024 model Y long range and suspension is way too hard. Would you suggest the unplugged luxury pro coil over suspension kit versus air suspension kit?
The cult is satisfied with this weeks video
Aren't we getting a lil snobby... Lol nice watching you grow bro
Do you know if it would work on Tesla model 3 2019 long range awd. If so do you have a model number.
thanks for the inspiration, gjeebs.. great videos as always. I'm in the middle of figuring out my MPP Comfort Coilover setup on my '21 MYP. The shop did the initial install and dropped the car too low for my taste but it felt really comfortable and took all the sharp edges off the ride. I went back (don't have my own jack and/or faith in myself to do it right) and had them raise it back up to about 1/2" or so below stock heights but now it's fairly firm again.. so it's going to be a journey to get the settings right. time to invest in a jack, I guess. will keep watching to see how the 3 setup works for you.
Yea just keep playing with it. Also I should have said this in the video but keeping a stock ride height will also help and then mess with the damping settings
The only issue I see is if there is an accident and Tesla works on the car and sees the mods they might refuse to service the car. This is what scares me away from any suspension mods.
@@Mgkamiolo The Basic Limited Warranty (which doesn't cover battery, drive unit, SRS) is 4 yrs/50k miles. The language that would void the basic states that any alteration or modification that was made inappropriately, etc. etc. would void the basic warranty. I went with the belief that adjustable suspensions aren't inappropriate and wouldn't void as they seem pretty common out there in the marketplace. But I guess it's a calculated risk on my part.
Nice. Wish I can test somebody with unplugged suspension. I have MY LR and it's pretty bumpy for me with gemini 19in. I would like to know if is worth it and if makes a big difference. Love how stock rides without the speed boat feel but dislike the sharp bumpy ride.
I sold my Model Y LR because I hated the suspension. That's sad because I loved everything else about the car.
I just took delivery of my 22 MYP two weeks ago. I also have a 2020 BMW m340i with m adaptive suspension. I just don't think the suspension on 22 MYP is too stiff. And I don't think the ride is too harsh even with those 21 inch wheels. Although I can tell the suspension on my BMW is much more refined.
Why doesn’t tesla offer adaptative suspensions!? They just like to cut corners everywhere where other manufacturers actually cares!
@@carholic-sz3qv Yes, adaptive suspension is definitely the way to go
Came upon this video while searching for solutions for my MS suspension. It has the air suspension but dang, it feels like my brother's race-modded STI. Not comfortable at ALL.
How about the Model 3?
I have a 2021 MYLR and there’s definitely a difference in suspension versus the 2022. It’s softer on the newer ones.
I saw a pink wrapped Tesla near Lake Norman outside of Charlotte today. You in town??
Not me!
Hey Gjeebs, I read somewhere (maybe it was a comment to one of your vids a while back), that Tesla quietly re-tuned the suspension to make it less harsh on the Model Y LR somewhere around April maybe? Not sure on that date.. so you have a first gen model y, hence the stiffer suspension.
Also a couple suggestions for vids:
-FSD park
-Summon uses
-Details on undercarriage of Teslas - how well can they can take a rub or rash before a battery cell could get damaged?
I got a model Y built in September and it still felt pretty stiff on the Gemini wheels. It felt even stiffer than my model 3 on aero wheels
Also for 2023 model ever since middle of Oct. 2022 the MYP has comfort mode which is a 3rd setting from standard and sport mode.
I am due to pick up my 2022 model Y performance tomorrow at 10 AM. I am kind of nervous now about how bad the suspension might be. Is it really that bad? I had a 2021 long range model Y and yes the suspension wasn’t as good as my jaguar F pace but I didn’t expect it to be. Do you think I’m taking a big chance by getting the model Y performance from Fremont California factory? I’m spending close to $80,000 on it
The newer Y performances seem to ride much better now. I think you will
Be fine
Congratulations on the baby!!!
Thank you
Does the luxury coil-over suspension kill the range or range estimation noticeably?
If you lower it it will get more range of you leave it stock height it will be the same.
Model Y Long Range suspension is HORRIBLE in the city where the roads are far from perfect. I bet Elon didn't ride in a Y much except on his test track or he would not have to wait for people to complain how rough it is. Sometimes I wonder if my car even has suspension. :(
Yea it brutal
He did. He just doesn’t care. He deliberately introduced “chinese quality” to US
@@user-er9gj8it6vmy Performance ride is Chinese made, you don’t know 💩
Who are you going to get to install the MPP suspension on your M3?
Not sure yet but I will let you know in the video. Might do it ourselves
My Model 3 LR stock suspension is great. Can't speak to the Y, but I think the 3 has a very good stock suspension
Good to hear that! I think the 3’s are better
@@Gjeebs You'd think it would be the opposite but you never know with Elon haha
For me my model 3L gives such a bumpy and poor ride. That's the reason I like video's like this.
Model 3 rides better than model y
Would that void any kind of warranty by adding a different suspension?
I am going to do a video covering this
Did this void your warranty?
We came from a performance Volvo V60 and honestly the Model Y has a smoother ride.. the Volvo's low profile wheels and stiff suspension are amazing for handling, but super bumpy ride. We also have a Mini Cooper SE and so I don't mind the way the Model Y rides. I guess, I don't really like the uber cushy ride. I like the handling in the Y---- I need to get that Tshirt.. as a heart patient, I love it
Lol…..
Cost of labor and springs from unplugged?
Labor was 600 and 2450 for the hardware
i was really shocked at how rough my MYLR was, i thought i had bought a boring "family suv"
Is the audio from the mic or the camera? It sounds a bit bad.
It’s from the camera. Mic failed
The too stiff suspension tuning isn't just a symptom of the Model Y. The '22 Model S is the same despite air bags and adaptive suspension. I've extensive wheel time behind a both and '20 and '22 MS, and I can't believe Tesla botched it.
Whereas the the '20's suspension is compliant, well adjusted, smooth and the 3 suspension modes have a luxurious ride through and through, anywhere from comfortable and plush to a taunt but well mannered ride, and NVH is really tamed as well.
All that all goes tits up in the new Model Ss. The ride quality feels, in short, like an inexpensive entry level luxury sedan. A $100K halo model that feels like it's half as expensive Model 3/Y siblings. If I closed my eyes, I would think I was driving an C Class Benz.
There is no suppleness or refinement to the suspension that would be in-kind with a premium luxury class ride. Even with the suspension dialed to "Comfort" (and the car raised) it rides unnecessarily firm. Setting it to "Sport" makes the experience almost unbearably harsh on all but glass smooth roads. The chassis is stiff, but vibration and surface imperfection isn't muted enough and carried into the cabin and road roar is louder than the '20.
They traded a true luxury feeling grand tourer for being a big Model 3. When I'm given the option of using the 2022 or the 2020, I almost always select the older car because of its superior all around ride quality.
Is this the Luxury PRO or just the standard Luxury?
This is the luxury pro kit but I have the luxury kit now. If you aren't going to mess with the height of the car I recommend just the luxury. I have a full video on it
Why doesnt Tesla use electromagnetic ride control like some of the other luxury brands?
I wonder when US Tesla's will recive updated suspension from Giga Berlin.
Not sure that we will
Hey Gjeebs, I’m hesitant with the unplugged due to the warranty clause by Tesla. This other ev CZcamsr that owned several teslas for turo got his car damaged by one of the renters and Tesla wouldn’t repair it because he had unplugged suspensions.
Any thoughts on that or how to manage it if it were to happened to you? That is if you accidentally damage your car on a normal driving condition and Tesla comes out saying your warranty is void because of the unplugged suspension?
I’m looking to ad a sr model 3 by Dec 2022 and likely will change the suspensions to unplugged.
I am making a video on this specifically
The best video on fixing stiff Y suspension. Very helpful! Thank you Gjeebs!
Lmfao "One of the complaints from people that don't own a Tesla"
Ot takes months to get the suspension! 😢
Gjeebs bro, I love you but this aint it man. Your vlog style videos are much more enjoyable to watch!
Edit: sorry didn’t realize you just had a baby! CONGRATS!
Yea I had to rush this out before the baby came. Went to the hospital hours later
Gjeebs on Setting 0: "This is so good, I'm not even going to put it on 12. I know I said I was going to do that earlier ... I'm leaving the car on zero. It's perfect." czcams.com/video/QvNGTlf1VWE/video.html
Gjeebs on Setting 12: "This is how it should have come from the factory."
Hahaha I know. This is why we test!
Whenever I get an uber drive in a model y. Even rented a model S on turo for a day. The suspension is the worst of any car I've ever been in... Super crashy everywhere. It's absolutely terrible.
I think this video should be a drinking game. Every time “stiff” is said you drink. I would not have made it through the first 3 minutes.
Too stiff? And a long range? My performance is not stiff enough when it matters.
After all that, ends up he didn't actually fix the problem.
What about adaptative suspensions!? Why doesn’t tesla offer adaptative suspensions!?!?!?
That would be the best solution for the 3 and Y
I drive model 3 rwd and its terrible. Suspension is very stiff, worse than any othe car i owned on half price.
This is not an issue any longer. Since August all cars from Shanghai and Berlin has the updated suspension.
This video is just a paid commercial for third party solutions. Don't buy into it.
Lol this isn’t paid also why did you like your own comment?! Hahaha
@@Gjeebs Dude why would I comment if I didn't like what I said?
@@sa.t.2507 It's redundant. Obviously you liked what you said
@@Gjeebs Well I mean so is having a pink Model Y, but yet some people do it 🤷♂️.
@@sa.t.2507 If you watched the videos you would understand. I'm sorry you spend your time like this
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