Can I Get Remotes for My Tractor?
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- čas přidán 13. 06. 2018
- I had a question from a viewer about how to get remotes for his tractor. It's a question that appears from time to time and I thought it would be good to answer in this video.
If you're new to tractors you may not know what remotes are. Let's discuss that first. Remote hydraulics can be referred to as "remotes" or "hydraulics". If someone were to ask you, "Does your tractor have hydraulics", that's what they mean. They are ports on the back of the tractor where hoses can be plugged in to power hydraulic cylinders (or hydraulic motors) on tractor attachments. If you have an implement that needs to be raised or lowered, folded out, or in some cases, powered, by the hydraulic flow from the tractor, you need remotes. A set of remotes consists of two ports, one for flow in and one out. Two remotes is two sets of two and so on. Big farm tractors use a lot of hydraulic power and may have up to four or five sets of remotes.
Most of us with small compact tractors don't need remotes. If all you do is clip pastures, operate a box blade or rock rake and use your front end loader, you'd never need remotes. Now, the loader is running hydraulic cylinders, but they're generally on their own circuit. On some older tractors, the loader hoses could be plugged in to rear remotes so, if you needed a set, you could pull off the hoses that do the tilt and curl of the bucket and use them. Most newer tractors have a joystick-controlled loader.
So when we're buying a compact tractor, most of the time, the salesman doesn't even mention that remotes are available. They don't want to risk confusing you or appearing to sell you something that you don't really need. The manufacturers usually don't equip tractors with remotes because they'd be selling against competitors without them, and it would put them at a price disadvantage.
Back to the original question then, how do you get remotes? They come in a kit that have to be ordered by a dealer for the tractor brand that you're trying to put them on. They include a "block" that ties into the hydraulic system, hoses, couplers, a bracket and a lever.
Remote kits will generally be available on current models of tractors. Once the manufacturer discontinues a model, or changes the hydraulic system, they don't want to be stuck with a warehouse full of kits for those tractors. Usually, shortly after a series is no longer available, the manufacturer ceases to offer the hydraulic kits and if you want to add remotes, you have to order each individual kit component from the parts department. It is cumbersome and expensive.
The takeaway from this video should be that if you own a tractor and think you might want remotes, don't waste time in getting to your local dealer to see if they're available and get them ordered. If it's a late model tractor the kit may be available. One last thing, adding remotes is something I advise you have the dealer do. Unless you have experience with hydraulic work, it's not something I'd recommend a backyard mechanic attempt.
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Putting rear remotes on my tractor was expensive but the best thing I've done to it. Not having to get off the tractor to readjust an implement (
Fortunately, before I got into farming, I had some long talks with long-time farmers, bugging them with a lot of questions. A farmer from Warrensburg told me to make sure I had at least one SCV pair on the back of any tractor I bought. Turns out the JD CUT I was purchasing would allow 2 pairs, but for the price and everything, I had the dealer just put one on. Which they did for a pretty low price to push the sail.
One other option you may want to mention. Run a set of hoses from the front end loader ports that provide tilt to the bucket. You can still raise and lower the bucket to keep it out of the way, and you have remotes when you need them. I do this on my NH TC40 when I want to use a transport disc or no-till drill that I rent from the Soil and Water District. Great for food plotters who don't want to spend $1,000 to add a set of rear remotes. Works like a champ.
Another great vid Mike. I tell people about your channel all the time. I purchased a backhoe with my tractor, so I not only had the extra cost of the backhoe, but the cost of the dealer installing remotes. And of courser their smallest kit was for two remotes. Almost $500 for the remotes installed above the cost of the backhoe. It cost me up front, but now I know I'm fully equipped for about any attachment. A word of advice. When attaching, or removing, an implement that hooks to the remotes, keep a close eye on your fluid level. I have found that mine changes in this process.
You do a great job of presenting the appropriate amount of information. Here's what it is, here's why, and here's why not. This is a great channel, I truly appreciate what you do.
I continue to appreciate Mike’s videos. I learned the hard way, if you are buying a new tractor, go ahead and buy remotes if you can, whether you think you will need them or not. I bought rear remotes on mine, but not fronts. Then I bought a grapple, so now I have hoses fished from the back to the front of my tractor. Just like nobody ever wished they’d purchased less hp with their tractor, nobody ever wished they’d bought fewer remotes!
Great video good info.👍
Great video, I’ve been researching tractors and am going to buy my first tractor this fall. I’ve been watching your videos and find you have some really great information. Keep the great video coming.
If you have a loader one cheaper way, if you otherwise would have gone for individual parts, would be to use a few extension hoses from there you connect the loader. But it is a "dirty" trick, perferable you shouldn't have hoses going very close to you in the operator station (wear and tear and they brake and injures you) so pipe would be a cleaner install. And then you maybe can go for those electric diverter valves (6/2) permanently installed after the loader spool valve. But ultimately it fills better with a purpose built single lever for each function that you are not expected to operate in conjunction (as loaders are) so a manufacturer's kit would be the right way to do it anyway.
That was an excellent and clear explanation! Thanks.
I don't have it on my tractors, but there may come a time where I would need it on there. I do have connections near the driver's seat where I can hook up hoses for the rear. One of my tractor's have a bucket on the front, but does have the placement block for the rear so I could hook up hydraulics on the rear if needed.
You are exactly right. I have a 2004 Massey Ferguson 4x4 1455V. The dealer said they could do it but they would have to order the kit piece by piece. They wanted like 4,000.00 including parts and labor. Stupid expensive! I believe they purposely market this way to make tractors disposable and to promote upgrading to new tractors. I guess this is why most tractor models change so often. I will prob sell this Massey eventually and switch to another brand / model with a dealer I trust that is more available in my area.
I had rear remotes added to my tractor when I bought it and have never used them.....but I’m glad I have them because of the added capability they offer. I know I’ll use them some day.
Great information, thank you.
Hi thank you so much for your information I have Massey Ferguson 590 old model and hydraulic pump is not working.i want to use small farm and I want to buy front loader is front loader is need hose and what else it's need .any ideas
Just had a hydraulic kit installed by my dealer. I could have done it but didn’t want any issues with warranty. $1000 out the door no brainer in my book. Kubota mx4800hst Love your channel
Good information as always. Thanks. Stay safe.
Have a Kubota b2601 w/third function to run my grapple, wonder if I could also install a hydraulic top link on the rear. Any tips much appreciated.
If you have a backhoe that came factory on your tractor then there is constant flow and when you remove the backhoe you need to make sure that the hoses are connected. Valves that hold position are detent valves.
One thing to be aware of with tractor hydraulic systems is open loop vs. closed loop. If your tractor came with the standard number of remotes such as 1 or 2 but can have 2 or 3 at the max, and you want to add that extra remote later on, be aware that some tractors I think had both systems to choose from but you can only have one or the other.