Quitting the Church of Trans | a Detrans Story, with TullipR
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"I was so beautifully gay, I just wish I knew it at the time". As a gay man, this made me tear up.
Stop! I’m 5 years into my transition. I just had to stop any talk of surgeries with the docs, and I’m so glad I’m watching these videos.
@@ashapande9721 You are not trans. You have not transitioned into anything. You are the same old you...just the same old you on hormonal drugs...you are not trans, because again, you have not transitioned into a different sex. Anyone can take drugs/surgeries to "appropriate" the other sex, but no one can change their genetics....sex is genetic/biological. Sorry, but this whole thing is a big delusion.
@@Andrew-mv2qb I'm confused...you were "outed" as straight? Or were you cross dressing, sorry confused.
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@@Vanessa-pe2xs No "gay" man ever describes the reasons he finds women sexually unattractive, not in public at least. Ask a lesbian what is "wrong" with men, you don't get so much evasion.
Toxic compassion will ruin us all.
Pathological altruism.
Guilty feeling pale suburban women have to “help the marginalized… “ ie, anyone who looks different than them, So this toxic compassion movement has already captured the “Nothing to lose“ vanilla chai Starbucks latte demographic. Uncritical liberals placed well enough in society to be a pressure, but not ambitious enough to think for themselves.
Toxic compassion is great way to put it. For fear of 'hurting someone's feelings' people will start going along with more ridiculous actions and accepts twisted versions of unreality. Including nudging the undeveloped minds of kids towards permanent life altering decisions. Toxic compassion, I'm going to remember that.
@@blaisetzu another good one I've heard is "calling people by their preferred pronouns isn't respect, it's compliance."
Where do you see compassion or altruism in gender ideology? It's dressed up as compassion, but it's not more compassionate than a salesman telling you that his product is going to solve your problems.
"We were sexually lobotomized just for being who we are."
autistic?
So many detrans'ed young people you're interviewing who've observed in themselves the same things I saw and reported to you in my own interview. Thank you Benjamin for continuing to peel back the layers of social conditioning that this movement utilizes to ensnare young people.
A combination of Tool and Toad the Wet Sprocket? That would be my dream!
One detransitioning person says " ... and I was offered a single cause for what was wrong and a simple solution ..." detransitioning and my real situation was more complex.
The format that you give your guests is just perfect for turning over every stone. Benjamin, keep it up, the world is benefiting from your work.
Excellent analysis. This could be my son. Your interviewee is my son’s tribe. I hope he finds them before it is too late. Especially the bit about only being to imagine being with a man, as a woman. Our boys are theoretically supportive of Gay Rights but can’t accept ot in themselves.
Send it to him. I hope things have worked out.
I really hope to hear more from TullipR! What a thoroughly brilliant and insightful young man!! His perspective is absolutely one of the missing pieces in public discourse~
This sounds so similar to my experience being raise a Jehovah's Witness, specifically the entire method of converting new members. Every single Witness is trained from childhood to convert new members, in fact you aren't considered an active Witness without "Going out in service" which is Witness door to door, face to face conversion. Very fascinating because I personally have converted and worked with people and there is definitely psychological tactics/manipulation involved you could call it religious grooming. Now looking back on the behavior I will say it's predatory but I remember that a huge driver for the behavior was a huge sense of satisfaction and status that came with collecting a portfolio of successful conversions especially since Witnesses truly believe they are literally saving peoples lives. There is a euphoric high that comes with successfully changing others to conform with your beliefs especially when you are getting praise from a worldwide community.
I'm sure many ex-Mormons could tell a similar story - in fact, all religions which put a premium on making converts.
Also as an ex JW I can concur. That and the threat of ostracism and banishment from your 'family' (metaphorical and literal) which they also ensure are the ONLY ones you make a connection with! Along with Hell (though different in interpretation) and Armageddon ! All done in the name of 'love' of course.
It sounds nutty like Scientology doesn’t it… and certainly not to blame innocent confused victims but this nuttiness is so far from rational thinking that it must have made Jehovas a more vulnerable target of persecution for the single-minded 3rd Reich.
(At least targets like the Trade Unions and Masons were not so insane, these were simply free-thinkers that the brutal German state also categorically did not like.)
I’ll always remember growing up my mom would always invite Jehovah’s Witness and Mormons in when they came knocking on our door. Being of a charismatic Christian faith they’d often leave when she would try and out convert them lol.
(See my other comment also ...). The 1950s was a much more religious practicing society. Pretty much everyone went to a Church service on Sunday. That included catholics, baptists, methodists, church of england (anglican church now) everyone. Shops closed at midday Saturday (Sydney, Australia) and none opened on Sunday. No pubs, clubs, no entertainment om Sundays. Everyone (pretty much) went to Church. Very few were openly atheist or non believers. The end of ww2, atomic bomb etc and growth of science led to rise of atheism.
Brilliant and Based. Compelling comparison of Trans 'Ideology' to Scientology. About to listen for a second round. There much solid, honest, sound minded thinking here. Thank you Tulip for standing up with wit and character.
Both ideologies want to take over the society, both have radical one-sided views that necessarily exclude reasonable discussion & debate, and both seek to persecute and harm those who leave the cult, let alone those who dare speak up about it.
@@j_freed but only one of them is taught in school to children
@@Lorvina1 and the other doesn't go to normal school
Autistic and neuro-diverse boys *do* go through adolescence really late. I'm dyspraxic and APD women and very young for my years. We have to acknowledge this. Because our beautiful brains will take up until 25 -28 to catch up with our 'peers'. That is why we need a healthy endocrine system!
I noticed the Trans movement using younger or more emotionally unstable people snagged as spokespersons and the interviewee just said grooming. I saw grooming of young attractive spokespersons on TV shows about transitioning.
Yep, worked in adult psych cottage with adolescents. It was definitely a spike up
Is anybody anywhere talking about learning to love yourself exactly as you were created yet?
Thank you, Tulip. Your comparison to the aids epidemic really hit home for me. I recall the endless grief and loss. So many transition stories have shame and homophobia lurking in the background. I am hoping that the LGB Alliance follows through with its plan to present positive role models to young people.
Gender ideology breaks my heart and leaves me feeling that the suffering we endured in the past is forgotten-or reframed with a trans narrative.
I support the LGB Alliance. 👍
@@maricampari3970 That’s happy news. I do too, and plan to increase my donation.
Many women over 50 saw bits of ourselves in the It’s A Sin character Jill. Many of the Jills supported our gay brothers, neighbours, friends & colleagues when landlords wouldn’t rent to them, some families & employers treated them like lepers. We knew how it felt to be “other” so we did what we could to help. Now we see young gay teens being swept up in trance & when we urge caution before drugs & surgery those same older women are attacked by the transcult and their supporters for being “tran phobic” - just look at the baying crowd of demented kids at Let Women Speak rallies. They didn’t live through AIDS. We did. Old women *know* things; most of us learned the hard way and are trying to make sure youngsters don’t do irreversible damage.
“Break the stick and don’t play their game.” Excellent advice!
Graham Linehan interviewed pelvic physiotherapist Elaine Miller recently. She discussed some reports she had read on Dementia also. The cases can be really sad. Their memory regresses back to a time before they started to believe they were trans, which can be a really big problem if they have had certain kinds of surgeries.
Yeah, i already have dreams I didnt have surgery and wake up confused. So cant imagine how horrific that would be waking up and not realising at all.
What type of hell is this that we think this is an okay reality.
@@tullipr that is the question hopefully more people will be asking themselves.
its amazing to me that doctors were telling you "no, no testosterone" despite you asking multiple times-- while from a medical standpoint its the healthiest thing to do. absolutely wild. imagine a person who needed it but didnt directly ask? they would never get it
“ won’t go to a church cause I’ll burn anyway”
Sweet soul no you won’t, no matter what. You are loved in a way that can never be limited. They have warped our Creator also and made fear of PURE UNCONDITIONAL LOVE.
I've noticed each of your lovely young guests who have detransitioned (M to F, and F to M) pretty consistently lose their trains of thought, or have to ask you to repeat questions pretty often. I wonder if this is common for the younger generation as a whole, or specifically an effect of disturbing the natural course of hormones during development...
Either way, it is terrifying. Our young people have been robbed of so much.
Congruent -sex hormones are neurotransmitters for their respective sexes. As we see with men who've had orchiectomy and women with oophorectomy, their depletion/ loss can have long-term effects on cognition.
3rd possibility is that having ADHD/ADD can contribute to negative self feelings so wanting to ‘escape’ / change self + can be part of autism + ADHD has link to impulsive behaviours. But I agree that giving these powerful drugs to CHILDREN without very good reasons is a medical disgrace.
I would say if they were like that before transition it's likely undiagnosed ADHD, which would also explain the loneliness, friendlessness, rejection sensitive dysphoria, etc. all things that TRAs prey on. ADHD makes you lose your train of thought and makes it hard to remember the questions.
I'm an earlier member of gen-Z, almost a millennial, and I agree that it's the generation. I have pretty severe trouble concentrating, and I've been diagnosed with ADHD. I think it's the phones.
@@t3m077 I also have ADD, but it manifests differently, and the differences seem consistent with the levels of technological prevalence.
Would you have a cup of Tea Father? Ah Go On, Go On, Go On.
The use of a Graham Linehan character as an avatar can't be a coincidence, right?
I would love to talk with TullipR. Even though I am long term Post-op & have no wish to detransition. We are on the same page on many of our views. I'm stuck in the middle & hated from both sides. Were both in the UK too.
Much thanks to both of you!!! And thanks for the links!!!
“Trans the shit outta them” Tulip Yr British turn of phrase is Fukking Awesome & Delightful
i do think that males on estrogen face health difficulties like the ones youve listed (such as early onset dementia) is because their bodies are not built to run on estrogen. it may feel "pacifying" or "calming" compared to the steroid that is testosterone, but thats how your body runs. there need to be other mental health help other than cross sex hormones
The early onset of dementia idea is one of the most bizarre ideas I’ve heard from this circle. If you think you have a better solution to gender dysphoria than transitioning, we would love to hear about it. But I don’t think you do.
What about the issues of testosterone blockers? It’s also a female hormone. Both sexes need it.
@@alicee2952 The issue of having a lower sex drive? That’s not too much of an issue.
@@MaisieDaisyUpsadaisy over all health. It helps with liver function and cholesterol. So many unknown variables. I wonder if it’s blocking vital nutrients for the brain, like vitamin D? Idk, but I think it’s something to consider if we want transgender care.
@@alicee2952 As someone who is trans, trans women undergo all of the monitoring to avoid damage. it’s for that reason self-medicating is not advised, and it’s why my GP does tons of health checks and I routinely see an endocrinologist. HRT has some possible negative side effects, but this notion that you will get dementia if you take T blockers is insane since HRT regimes that are overseen by medical professionals tends not to result in your liver packing up.
There are issues surrounding trans health care, and this is not one of them.
Laughed at the Kiwifarms name-dropping. God bless them.
Ya they're entertaining alright
I'm always surprised when one of Boyce's interviewees mentions KF, but I probably shouldn't be- I think this is the 3rd or 4th instance I've seen.
Boyce and KF have such different approaches, but I suspect there's decent overlap, because there's so few places where criticism of gender ideology is accepted (and because comments on this channel mentioning The Farms always get thumbs-ups, and responses)
Excellent interview and an articulate, interesting guest. Thank you for providing the platform for this and the insightful questions and thank you to Ritchie for being brave enough to discuss his experience in such detail.
Woah, the comparison of this ideology to a death cult is both harrowing and mind-blowing. Spot on. 👏
And why "gender secularism" is gold, we need to share that one.
/r/detrans ideology, that's it.
The Trans medical community changed standards and procedures not based on evidence but based on a social position.
That is news to basically all of my colleagues and the medical professionals I have worked with. Please tell them that all of their scientific study just never took place and that the data they believe in is just a figment of their imagination.
@@MaisieDaisyUpsadaisy I would gladly tell them that. Freudian psychosexual theory is pure quackery. It's derived from selected ancient myths and the showmanship of hypnotists like Charcot.
@@MaisieDaisyUpsadaisy Are you aware that Sweden, Finland and France have now pulled back from allowing medical interventions in children BECAUSE the evidence of benefits is weak or non existent.
@@bh148 Medical intervention with children? So you mean they banned puberty blockers. Which happened over here in England. But do you know why they were banned in England? Was it because the psychiatrists and medical professionals concluded it was ineffective? It was too the contrary: the experts were advocating for puberty blockers but political junkies that are opposed to trans rights proclaimed that it was ineffective and they cited pseudo “rapid onset of gender dysphoria” - which is a pseudo scientific concept that is only backed up by studies that utilise a completely indefensible methodology. The same is happening all across the world: political actors are pushing against trans healthcare because of their political biases.
October 2022
Damn! I missed the original broadcast of this conversation. Over the last month or so I have listened to TulipR on several channels
Damn, TulipR! Damn dang damn. You are once fierce genius!
Thank you!
My skull cracked a bit due to my brain expanding too far for it while taking in your knowledge and critics.
Well worth it!
Damn Tr
My heart goes out to him, I hope your life brings you many blessings ❤️❤️❤️
This was a delight to listen to, thank you so much!!
Great interview! 🤗
People REALLY need to hear this!
His voice is incredibly beautiful.
The intro set up is so much more cinematic now, although the weird things with cats and wildlife were fun too.
The guesses take that the" church" is more angry at women and ex-trans reminds me of people who leave Islam and how harshly get treated by Muslim community
Loved this talk. Don't remember how I became subscribed, I think it was suggested on Reddit, but I need to continue listening to these.
As for the early onset dementia, I'd be interested to know whether it is related to the transitional treatments or is related to whatever causes the major gender dismorphia itself. I realize the story was anecdotal, but it'd be nice if there was data on early onset dementia within transgender people pre vs post transition
Some fresh air, courtesy of Benjamin. As usual, insightful
I was raised Catholic in the 1950s & 1960s. Fotunate to have a nun as a teaher who was a seeker/searcher of truth. She taught religion (including the whole Bible Teihard de Chardin, st Augustine witch hunt historythe Inquisition etc) and science (full on Darwinian evolution). She taught what a cult was & how to think outside the box. Trans is a cult.
Unfortunately, the mass indoctrination of the religions of the 1950s fell away. So, kids like mine born in the 1970s, & 1980s for the most part (there were isolated pockets, but relision wasn't everywhere like the 1950s) little experience of the religious cult characteristics. So, then the kids of the 70s and 80s had their kids slightly later (age 30) in the 2000 s and 2010s. So now weve got kids age now 20ish never having experienced being raised in a cult experiencing the cult if trans. They don't recognise it as a cult because they have never seen people raised in cults (on a widespread mass level, like in the 50s.)
Interesting insight. I spent a bit north of 15 years working with Cult Awareness Network -- taken down by the Scientology CULT in the mid 1990s -- and the "trans" craze demonstrates many characteristics of the cults with which I became familiar. Much of this form of the sexual abuse of children is reminiscent of what was scorned as "cult paranoia" back then, but with grooming and peer pressure in place of fear and shame as incentives. Seems we are doomed to learn this lesson the hard way.
@@lefantomer interestingly enough, I became involved in a modern day pagan witch craft movement in 2012 , attracted by its specific L ... all letters in between ... T welcoming. It had its origins in the 1990s in San Francisco, founded by 1970s feminists, who wanted to establish a spiritual support movement for environmental activism, and L ... T, and in dig enous etc. It grew extremely radical. At first, not a cult imo. By 2017, a friend, who had become associated with it around the same time as me (2012) left, saying "this is a cult now". I couldn't see it, and disagreed, and stayed. Then they made us declaring our pronouns compulsory (2018). The last time I associated with them (2019), I got "piled on" on private fb page for saying that there were two sexes, and some men need to move through society as "transwomen" and that's ok, but they are men underneath it all. I left after that. It had become a cult. Covid struck our society shortly thereafter being elderly with comorbidities, I used it as an excuse.
@@carolynbrightfield8911 Also interestingly, my cult experience was with a San Francisco one which shall remain nameless but its late founder was involved in a notorious child sex abuse case in the 80s. More a case of an attachment to the wrong person than interest in the cult's program, but it introduced me to the study of cult development in general. In terms of the "trans cult" I consider the hallmark to be the rejection of objective reality in favor of fantasy and the rejection of reason in favor of censorship of all opposing arguments.
@@lefantomer oh wow, thank you for your reply. One more piece if the jigsaw puzzle just clicked into place. Hmm ... make that 4 or 5 pieces. Thankyou
@@carolynbrightfield8911 So glad I can help in any way with this.
Your guests voice sounds familiar. I hope he finds happiness and peace. These conversations are vital.
i truly wish we could just accept that people come in many different shapes and sizes, and many different personalities! none of this has to be cured, none of this has to be corrected for the correct body or gender. we are perfect the way we are. (and if people still want to do body modification that is 100% their right as is tattoos, but body modification does not make a man a woman, nor a woman a man)
Yes, but some behaviors/personalities are profoundly anti-social. Psychopaths and sociopaths are who they are, but we can't just let them run around being who they are in the name of tolerance of difference. Who they are may be self destructive and damaging to the rest of society and therefore excluded from society. I am sure society can be (and is) more tolerant to differences, but the individual also has an obligation to conform to societal norms. Trans is on that boundary line.
And they come in many different genders.
@@exdetransitioner But not many different sexes.
Thank you Benjamin for having an interesting antalgent conversation, with this Gentleman. good man, funny man.
Interviewee just said it is not evidence based and that is a key point here.
Algorithm did me a solid and directed me to this.
The three papers linked to that you say are about "estrogen's impact on gray matter" are actually about 3 very different things:
1) impact of artificial Big Pharma estrogen on the brain matter of males (presumably adults, but age not clear) who ID as trans;
2) impact of artificial estrogen prescribed to females for menopause in the years afterwards (actual not clear, but clearly the women are older & old);
3) the possible impact of the endogenous, natural estrogen women naturally make during our childbearing years (menarche to mid-late 40s) on our brains much later in life. Your guest is a male who is just now turning 35, & has taken artificial exogenous Big Pharma oral estrogen for 10 years. I wish him well, but his situation is not comparable to that of menopausal, post menopausal and elderly women!
Male & female humans are physically different in thousands of ways, down to each nucleated cell. We carry a lot of the same genes, but scientists have found differences in the ways we express more than 6500 of our shared genes so far. Both sexes have androgen and estrogen receptors, but male & female ARs & ERs are different in number, location, type & behavior - though exactly how is not yet fully understood.
Anyways, you can't assume that exogenous artificial estrogen produced by Big Pharma has the same effects on the gray matter of males & females. And you certainly can't compare the way post-menopausal & elderly women might be affected & protected by the natural estrogen we produce from our ovaries over the course of our ovulation-menstruation cycles & during pregnancies in our CBYs to the way young and MA males are affected by taking exogenous, factory made fake estrogens.
Also, women produce a lot of other sex hormones - not just estrogen - during our monthly cycles, & during pregnancy, childbirth & when lactating. And whereas people who take Big Pharma estrogen tables usually take the same amounts every day & achieve a steady state consistent over time, in girls & women our estrogen is constantly fluctuating. So for the sake of everyone's health & wellbeing, let's take care not to confuse & conflate population groups who are biologically, physically different - & different in life experience - in thousands of ways!
Doesn’t 1 cover the issue?
There is no "real" and "fake" estrogen. There are three different estrogens with their chemical formulas which are the same no matter if produced by body or artificial.
@@miriamlana833 Hi Miriam, perhaps you are being too reductionist. As I understand it, Premarin is made from horse urine, Cenestin is plant-based, and neither are bio-identical to the estrogen made by human females. There are three main estrogens as you say, but many derivatives of these and a few others too. See for example en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_estrogens
@@liberality There are bio-identical hormones and synthetic hormones. Synthetic estrogen (the horse urine variant) is indeed not the same as the female produced, they are also not recommended as they can have complications. However there are bio-identical hormones you can take that are the exact same as the female produced.
Yes there are many different types of estrogen but only 3 of them are human hormones, the others are just other chemicals of the same chemical family. And yes, soy beans contains one of the estrogens that do not affect your hormone structure.
@@johanedfors3899 From what I'm reading online about bio-identical hormones, they are compounded to supposedly match natural qualities. However it seems they are not recomended by the UK's medical establishment for menopausal women, let alone men.
Thanks for y'alls chat.
Tulip, you’re lovely. Thank you for sharing your story
This is wonderful!
Interesting dementia fact: in late stage dementia, people who have forgotten their own names are still able to say (or, if non-verbal, indicate ) which sex they are.
Geordie-Scottish hybrid accent. 👍🏻
Good chat!
This is intense. Serious stuff.
how can I make my peers see the ideology behind the movement? I form a part of the tiny community of puertorican sexual educators and this ideology is slowly seeping in. I've tried to bring it to my colleagues but it seems they have been wrongly blinded by empathy and have forgotten to defend science and logic. It makes me sick to think logic and academia is going off the rails. Sexology is considered a joke science now, and REAL sexual educators will not be taken seriously.
Reinforce that medical issues are sex based, that prostate is a matter of sex, that cervical screening is a matter of sex. Don't play the game, just stick to science and if anyone come back at you and say gender isnt your expertise, sex is.
@@tullipr very well said, thank you. I have referred interviews about gender to another colleague and have stuck to talking about topics related to sex differences. Also, I've heard other feminists retaking the term sex and woman/women where gender is being presented; even using 'feminism' in place of talking about 'gender perspective', given its been wrongly interpretated and implemented by diff governments, movements, etc.
More power and wisdom to you.
Fortunately Sweden, Finland and France have now moved away from the affirmation model and said that children should have psychological support not medical interventions. This is because of lack of evidence of benefits compared to risks. So you can point colleagues to the fact that activists are still pushing for trans ‘healthcare’ while having no evidence to defend it.
this is a good source I think: czcams.com/video/JNW79czfibw/video.html
Excellent...just excellent! Thank you.
I have been battling memory issues for years and it began to get far worse 9 weeks after my husbands/partners sudden death. He died December 2012. Its now closing on 10 years later. In that 10 years it took over 8 and half to taken seriously over my hypothyroidism symptoms. Its taken till today to be listened too and get referred to see the endocrinologist. After insisting the practice manger who as known me since my teens call me back and i had a meltdown over the lack of help i have had in last 10 years from my Drs, I have never seen an endocrinologist even though I transitioned in my teens and am now 58. I refused to see the one in my area all those years ago because of what i witnessed ! How their swapping and changing of hormones and dosages like they were candy lead to almost all the other transexual i knew back then in my area getting blood clots etc. One friend even died at age 19 soon after starting hormones.
I really hope more of society reaches out and listens to accounts of individuals such as yourself.
It's awful how you've been cast to the sidelines and left to get on with it instead of having consistent supervision and support.
The more I read into biology and how transition is carried out, I consider it to be a lifelong state.
I reckon transitioning the body never ends as you are always at odds with trying to overrun the innate endocrine system.
What do you think?
Transwomen are transwomen, and women are women.
Guy named mrgirl has been talking about the access predators are getting to young children and teens through smartphone apps. This may explain a great deal of the perversions of sexuality we see today. Could be a fantastic calmvo.
Tumblr, Reddit, and discord are huge for groomers.
There's no grooming in mainstream transgender community, you're just too lazy to see it.
@@nowwhat1434 Especially the detrans social media is huge for groomers.
I really really want you to have Tulip to come back
Returning next week!
Yes! It's awe-inspiring! One is a 'woman' for one year and you're the woman of the year immediately and on the cover of Vanity Fair. And it's not some one off.
The temple of the religion is housed in the walls of the digital world - empire of marketing is turned to malignancy.
This really picked up half-way through, glad I stuck with it even though I was struggling to understand the guest at times (although he is charming).
REALLY enjoyed the analogies the two of you made, kicking it off with that very accurate (and scary) accuracy of the “Death Cult” and finalizing with that Luciferianism that we really do keep sensing (so well said). Yeah, the religious analogies were inspired.
De-transers are heritics, they were never *really* followers, they never *really* understood.
I recognise that voice from their interview on Triggernometry a couple of years ago.
Vegans are very similar. They constantly try to recruit and feel it their calling to recruit to veganism.
Not all vegans
@@eastlynburkholder3559 read my comment, never said all. Many do
And those who leave after destroying their health were “never really vegan”
@@smooth_pursuit exactly they did it wrong. Lol.
They also treat ex-vegans much the same way the trans community treats detransitioners, ie, like they're satan.
The gray matter issue of long term synthetic estrogen intake sounds very similar to long term PCP and Dextromethorphan abuse, where one can develop actual lesions in the gray matter. That's pretty terrifying. There's no reversing that kind of damage.
@@SaraB-zf5mz yeah it's hard to believe, but it also really wouldn't surprise me either I guess.
@@SaraB-zf5mz but you haven't presented anymore "fact" than he did?
I completely agree, it's such a voracious claim one shouldn't take it for granted and do their own research, but I don't think there was harm in pointing out that he had seen this information somewhere and its something to at least look into.
I mean, millions of people use otc cough syrup containing DXM many times a year and will never develop anything close to brain lesions, but hardcore habitual use in a tiny minority has led to lesions, so it's something to at least keep in mind before one decides to abuse the hell out of PCP or ketamine. I guess that's how I look at it.
CZcams is closing out this video while I watched it, twice. My hand was no where near the screen both times.
Brilliant! ❤️❤️❤️
yes, cult and religion are both very similar. i stray closer to calling it a religion for the reasons expressed here. but also, i think a more appropriate word is culture. a culture is a religion too.
I didn't connect the dots on swear words and blasphemy.
"There is no God."
"LGB"
"Trans women are men."
"There's no such thing as Trans kids."
"Doctors don't 'assign' sex at birth, they observe."
"Black murder victims in the USA has jumped double-digit percents since the emergence of Black Lives Matter."
I personally think the difference between a cult and a religion is found in how they treat people who leave. I'm an inactive Mormon, but still love the church and its culture. I left because the church has lost its influence to grave consequence. This happens from time to time but in this case it really needs to show some backbone. The transitioning of children is an inexcusable silence on the part of the leadership.
Anyway, I haven't been shunned. I'm still welcomed back. No one has harassed me online or anywhere else. I'm not being stalked. Sometimes the Relief Society sends me a "we love you" message which is quite nice. I'm not blacklisted. I don't recall the last time the Bishop pulled me into his office to have a chat about my worthiness. As far as I know, no one has questioned my place as a true Mormon.
Can that happen? Sure. True church or not, there are some individual congregations that do mistreat their members. There are congregations where long-time established families have taken advantage of the hierarchy structure to oppress others. This happens! And those individual congregations have crossed over and become a cult.
Saw the thumbnail of Mrs Doyle and had to click.
"Would you like a cup o tea?"
DSD is new to me. Always something to learn. *stares out window on a rainy day while a sad violin plays.
What is the core belief of this religion? Is it something to do with the belief that the human species must self terminate?
this video is so good
Sorry but Tulip's 'Mrs Doyle' avatar is so at odds with this subject matter 😂🙈
Ritchie did a damn good job. I can hear a strong influence of Exulansic here. I think it was first her that came up with that comparison.
One bone to pick: The tin hat territory of the speed of internet connection - it's not about that specific speed, it's about the ease and speed with which we now access information, information that in the case of for example the religion of gender identity, is extremely harmful and dangerous.
This is the first I've heard of kiwifarms and come to find it's been cancelled 😭
It’s still out there.
@@BenjaminABoyce thank you Benjamin, I'm on the hunt 🦓
TullipR *Build it & They Will come* ✅🌞🌞
The ads YT put in this video were for Trans Health 😳
Click on them to spend their ad budget down 😶
I didn’t know that was how it worked. Oh, I am going to click - click -click - click away!
I was watching a Black Gen Z Mindset video on the Queens NYC murder. Cameras caught the murderer dragging the body down the street in a leaky, bloody duffel bag.
Advertising?
Duffel bags.
The internet and mobile phones have destroyed society.
You could that about anything (and transgender people existed before the Internet and mobile phones), and why? What do you mean by "destroyed society"? I personally will say that information can be useful sometimes.
@@user-yy5di3qg5u information was also around before the internet and mobile phones. You must be young. Every idea about sex has been around for hundreds of years. I still stick by what I wrote. The world became too fast, people have been flooded by too much info and many now have mental illnesses that they otherwise would never have encountered. How did you get that information is bad from my comment or that it's specifically targeted at trans people?
@@misssaltynuts2512 it's certainty sped up spreading of mental pathologies, as well as good things, and channels people into isolated communities of like-minded.
“The aftershock of individualism”.
Mrs. Doyle !! There U are!! Let’s go for a cuppa Tea & I’LL PAY !! *huge fight ensues & police get called out* 🤣🤣 If u know u know!😉
Oh, go on!
Regarding the kiwifarms, 4chan and the like of pure wild west internet with unfiltered opinion.
The term weaponised autism comes to mind honestly.
I know that's not the main scope of this video but it gave me a wave of nostalgia from growing up with that.
"Would you like a cup of tea, Father?"
"Aaah... go on... go on... go on... go on... go on... "
ps.
Joking aside, super interesting talk
edit:
for people wanting to dig deeper in the Theology Mrs Doyle is talking about:
1. czcams.com/video/uf4R0gX7g3w/video.html
2. czcams.com/video/JNW79czfibw/video.html
Ahh. New Discourses. Hegel's logic, or illogic.
@@gg_rider indeed.
James Lindsay is awesome.
42:27 BAM. Trans rights are anti-woman.
CZcams closed me out of this video 3 times last night. I gave up trying to watch it.
Alt media link: odysee.com/@BenjaminABoyce:2/quitting-the-church-of-trans-with:2
American medical care may be expensive...but no dang 2 year wait list!
Tea, Father...?
I know this is an old old interview, but hey Richie Tulip and Ben, did either of you read the abstracts about oestrogen levels, hormone therapy and dementia in the show notes? One claims that lower oestrogen levels in menopausal women is related to dementia and that hormone replacement therapy can be beneficial in such cases, another claims hormone replacement therapy is related to dementia. It's scary and confusing. Doesn't look like the full articles are available for free.
Were it not for their use in HRT, I wonder if these synthetic hormones would even be on the market at all. They have serious long term side effects, the brain lesion thing is terrifying.
There are people with deficiencies of natural hormone production who really need to be treated with hormone meds. And then there are women who suffer a lot of their physical reactions to menopause. They need synthetic hormones to live a normal life.
20 years ago I had a friend who bought hormones online. I was furious with them for doing this, I didn't object to them wanting to transition but buying hormones online was insane.
No Mrs. Doyle, I do not want a cup of tea ☕️.
51:01 it's not admirable and it is not power. It is a gauling deception, which seeks to use peoples good will, vulnerability and innocence against them.
Real and admirable power doesn't need to force or deceive anyone...it compels thru its innate truth.
Ritchie displays real power of the most admirable kind.
Why did you choose a photo of Mrs Doyle from Father Ted (played by Pauline McLynn) as an avatar from your interlocutor?
Mrs Doyle was a character that serves tea to priests (that dont believe in god) in a show written by Graham Linehan. I thought it was funny and Mrs Doyle is probably my favourite character from the entire show, but they're all hilarious. Great TV show :)
@@tullipr Thanks. You gotta be British to know all that, which leaves us Americans out.
@@davidjohnzenocollins YOU MUST WATCH FATHER TED FORTHWITH!
@@davidjohnzenocollins I think Americans managed to catch up with Monty Python and enjoyed it - such cross cultural exchange is possible! We even get American comedies here!😉
@@bh148 Holy Grail since I was I think in my teens.
Have you watched the Netflix documentary: LulaRich?
23:11 Sounds like Creutzfeldt-Jakob disease
I dont think so, I'd be dead by now. It's more likely my endo system and the HRT....aswell as all the messed up shit thats happened. Has an impact!
There are tons of things that can cause lesions in the brain... KJD is a very specific condition...no comparison
Has removal of section 28 actually helped gay youngsters? The TQ seems
to have captured everything so proto gay children are not receiving any positive messages or genuinely helpful information about homosexuality
I get scared when some one says one way .
Why can’t we see the face of the interviewee?
Ritchie wanted anonymity. He has since put his face out there, as seen in my most recent video.
I had no idea Mrs Doyle was trans
She certainly isn't! She's a true and honest wohman.
wow, fascinating guest.Yes, it is a religious cult and it pervades all gullible people in society. I wish you well in your life.
"Being out meant he would have lost his job" No, that's not true.
"Pilloried"? ... around 59:00
42:40 Elliot Fong Jones is DDOSing your site