Escape From Tarkov tries to paywall Offline PVE Mode behind $250 edition, backfires epically
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Unheard Edition seems appropriate given how little they seem to be listening to the community...
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Helldivers 2 devs roasted them.
It was hilarious.
The "Unheard" edition or the "Unsold" edition?
Surely they're not stupid enough to not expect major backlash before releasing this unheard edition. Testing the waters is one thing but they literally stepped on a minefield this one
To be fair Chris Roberts walked this microtransactions path years ago with Star Citizen and, apparently, they are working their way up to his level of greed aka 'The Best (or worst in this case) is still to come."
Oh and let us not forget that they are a Russian company where Putin sets the standard for truth, honesty, fair business practices, etc.
Unhinged edition is currently the nickname of choice. Some call it the unalived edition. Even cheaters are specifically hunting down owners lol
You know things have gotten out of hand when a mode in a video game costs almost as much as an entire new freaking game console
You know things have gotten out of hand when a mode in a video game costs almost as much as an entire new freaking game console THAT HASN'T EVEN LEFT BETA
Russian developers scamming people is one of the least surprising things in gaming.
Well plenty of idiots bought into it. My friend didn't even hesitate. Paid for EOD first whenever that came out, and now paid an additional 250+ for this. This is why they do it.
Same
120dollars highest priwce for a console game. 250???????blowjob include?
Not my game, not my genre, but I'm *livid* for y'all. Don't stand for this. The rest of the gaming community is behind y'all
100% me to
I am not behind players who knowingly supported a Russian developer supporting the war in Ukraine. f these players.
Yeah, sure...those poor players who supported a developer openly supporting Putin's war got scammed. Boo hoo. Let me find my tiniest violin!
@@sophieedel6324 what are you going on about?
@@sophieedel6324IIRC The devs got out of russia ages ago my guy.
What I love is Helldivers 2 roasting Tarkov for this by making an announcement about some new store prices, and I quote “so low it’s practically UNHEARD of” good on them
Arrowhead and Larion for President and VP
And it costs 250 SC 😂
"Play offline with friends" it says, yet you still need to connect to an online server and sit in waiting queues due to limited server availability.
Yep. Offline would mean a version someone can play on their own, but then say they can't give it to everyone because it is on it's own server. That isn't offline, that is online with different game rules.
@@greed-1914 yea its so bad, a single player version should be offline or peer to peer. That is why the SPT AKI mod is going gangbusters because its offline, but can be modded to play with friends.
You know it’s bad when even EA hasn’t crossed this line yet
Yet...
I know that EA is greedy. But damn.
@@oOZellzimaOo exacrly
Give them time
Woah woah woah! Don’t go giving them any crazy ideas now!
250 for essentially an offline mode? I wouldn't pay that for an entire game, but a game mode?
My thoughts exactly
The best part? There's a mod called single player tarkov that works better. Only thing is not having coop (though several people have tried)
yeaaaaaa thats not how that works at all its the base game plus all the dlcs and addons of all editions of the game that were already available for purchase for 4 plus years and then new exclusive items for this edition plus the 6 month early access to the offline mode that everyone else will get access to at launch. so u get all content from every other version of the game plus the new added bonuses in this one. Not to mention there's been a huge issue with a community of people using unlicesend single player mods for the game that are basically being marketed as a separate game, and tarkov released this to allow the people that are illegaly using the game files to play single player tarkov that they want, if they upgrade to this edition. also if u already own the game then it isnt 250 it would be the difference in the price of the package u own and this, wich is how every other version of the game works u can buy the base game and then upgrade or u can just but the pack u want from the start. All the publicity around this is super disingenuous. Do i think its over priced ooh yea but by no means is it 250 for pve like its being framed as.
The best part is it's not an offline mode. It's still on their servers, just a modified version of them.
@@ItzYaBoyMeech I do not care enough to read all that.
I have never seen people burn goodwill this fast
Some Diablo mobile shit
I have it called a politician being bankrolled by corporate lobbyists.
Nikita has no goodwill to burn
*looks at anything DEI*
Try looking up Nijisanji. Just for March.
I love how BSG NEVER actually apoligized for anything.
"I am sorry for how you feel" and "I am sorry I did not predict this reaction". At no point did they say sorry for doing this and actually fixing it.
Meanwhile, 40$ Helldivers still wins by not doing anything
Games dead tho
@@likelytree Nope, still #5 on steam charts at ~1/3 peak (current 118k), which isn't bad for a steady player base. People are allowed to move on to other games, but it's nowhere near dead. COD is #6, Apex is #8, and BG3 is #10 btw.
@@likelytree cap
@@likelytree not as dead as your brain
@@likelytreelmao.
I think that's the fastest 180 I've ever experienced. "Oh, Tarkov is adding PVE? I'm finally interested! It's $250? Well NEVERMIND THEN."
Tarkov has SPT. A mod that gives you PVE functionality and working mods already. No need for fancy editions
The game is almost as expensive as a console XD yeah not fuck that
@@rebel4466 very true, but that doesn't condone their actions.
@@rebel4466 It's not officially endorsed and considering they are releasing their own version, I have my doubts they are not going to go against spt soon.
On/Off in 5 seconds
250$ is more than a minimum wage in Brazil hahahaha
Fuck this game.
u forgot the tax :D in bulgaria +vat is 311eu this my pay check :D
The easiest way to escape from this Tarkov is to select, delete and forget about the game. Trust is hard to gain and easy to lose.
And worse of all; malice is all so easy to spread. It's like a memetic fire.
Is nobody going to bring up the fact that charging $250 for a goddamn video game is insane? I don't care how many features it has, that's ludicrous.
Meanwhile, simulator games: 🙂
@@leinadlink well sim games sell 1 item at a time. And some sim games is actually used for training simulations. as soon something is used by companies, the prices goes High. But even train sim 4 didnt dare take more than 35 for a train.
Have you heard about the insanity that is Star Citizen?
@@ValerianGaudeauThey said game, not scam.
@@ValerianGaudeau Unfortunate, and it makes no sense why people wants to put in 100k into a game that isnt out yet.
Saying that the DLC is a "unique feature" is like when EA said lootboxes are "Surprise mechanics"
11:48 you're literally just repeating what was said in the video. And everyone who didn't watch it just liked your comment
I mean, this is literally what Bethesda did. They sold people season pass for Fallout 4 promising all future content then out of the blue added creation club (something that wasn't even teased when season passes were first sold) and were arguing that this is a completely different thing, not a DLC, even when made by Bethesda employees (They did all sort of gymnastics to avoid any label, they were also arguing these weren't paid mods...just creations made by modders that you pay for and many of them were a version of already existing mods....) so it's not covered by their obligation. They did all the same tricks with changing website description and such to change terms of the transaction made months and years before
Precedence is already here and it was established with applaud of gamers who were attacking a guy who was fighting Bethesda to fulfill their end of the deal
Same vibe, yeah.
@@Hallucinato444or they wrote it, and others read it, before that point in the video 😅
@@sergiodbd you're literally just repeating what was said in the comment
Well, it's called the Unheard edition for a reason. All concerns and constructive criticism went, well, unheard!
"They burned that community goodwill like it was made of flashpaper" What a great intro!
This gets even deeper. The cheaters found out they can go into these "offline servers" and the loot that comes from pve can be carried over to pvp, so the RMT is gonna go crazy.
and add that to the new pay-to-win mechanic that allows RMT items to summon in allies whenever you are on the back foot and you have a recipe for wallet warfare.
@@Highstar25asymmetric wallet warfare. Let us begin.
I heard there’s a mod for offline like wtf
@@Eskeletor_210 yup and mods to make the game ever better than what the device can do
@@Eskeletor_210Oh not only single player. There is a mod for coop too. And shit loads of mods on top of that.
Must be that new fangled AAAAA game mode we wanted
Ubisoft just spent millions TM'ing AAAA, and we're already at AAAAA gaming ? Pure madness
What's next? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
@@superfalloutmario9642 A-finity
@@superfalloutmario9642same sound I make when I get a leg cramp at 3 am waking me up.
Did they actually do that? @@Sazabi4prez
Escape From Tarkov: Unbought Edition
One thing that's getting overlooked is the fact that they are advertising "offline" when this isn't true. You still need internet to play the "offline" mode.
Criminal literally for an early access game, take your escape to Helldivers 2 like a true citizen..
Xbox citizen here. I wholeheartedly agree with this. Currently hoping to join the fight for democracy.
@@groudongamer3178 while I love my Xbox one, you gotta get into PC asap. My Xbox is basically a killer instinct machine at this point 😉
@@groudongamer3178 were fighting for your right to join just as much as were fighting bugs and bots
Anything else would be undemocratic.
Whilst we appreciate the invite, Tarkov players enjoy the PVP Hardcore element of the game. There's no thrill quite like killing a few players and taking all their gear out to your stash!
I always get afraid when I see things like this because other companies might look at this and think its okay to copy them.
If they don't get enough backlash, and get away with it, of course other companies will try to emulate them. That's why we have to let these greedy corporations know that we are not okay with this.
You dont have to live in fear of corporations. Class solidarity and collective action are tools at your disposal.
Problem Is that as long as idiotic morons Will pay for those, they Will keep on doing It
THEN DONT BUY IT, THAT IS IT, IT ISNT HARD. Dont want other companies to do shady shit,? dont support shady shit then.
@Al-oe7wx Obviously I won't fucking buy it. I don't even play Tarkov. I fear for the people who will buy it. Games are already at a pretty bad state these days. The last thing I want is for shit to get even worse.
Home Depot just announced a beta shovel. Version oh point one is just a foam grip, but the devs promise future updates will include a handle with the option to pay-to-spade
"It's not DLC, it's a unique feature... which will give you a sense of pride and accomplishment!"
I see what you did there
Star Wars Outlaws with $130, Escape From Tarkov with $250… these companies are getting a little ridiculous with what they expect us to pay for games.
The problem is regulation... if they were regulated then consumers would be protected... at this point they can charge what ever the fuk they want. It's ridiculous
This should be any easy class action lawsuit.
They are a Russian dev so idk about that
@@JKPrimetime They do claim to be based in London now, so there might be something.
they did also change their website, live while someone was streaming it... stating what packages includes what- and the pack isnt sold anymore as well. so not sure if thats legal but dodgy
ah yes, the famous lawsuit against Russian scammers. Good luck with that.
Based in UK they are in trouble
Yeah one of the most laughable things the head of that company did was when people pointed out that the 150 $ edition said they'd get all future DLC for free, he called them "entitled freeloaders" (mind you they paid for the then most expensive edition), just removed the passage that said they'd get the DLC for free, said the new PVE mode "isn't DLC but a paid new feauture" and said that this 250 $ edition was to find out who "the true believers are". Dude went full Star Citizen in buildinghis cult.
Just a small issue:
With SC you actually get the same game no matter if you buy the cheapest or most expensive option and nobody berates you for choosing the cheapest option.
@@EdwardDragon96 Before the PvE debacle, Tarkov was the same no matter what you paid, you just got extra inventory space and extra skill points. The base editionwas viable.
@@ChucksSEADnDEAD
Well the extra inventory space aint a thing in SC either.
I believe some versions come with more starting cash but thats about it appart from the diffrent ship ofcourse. And those diffrent bigger ships require more people to run properly so you are actually hurting yourself if you buy the more expensive starter packs.
"a DLC by any other name would smell as shit"
-Shakespeare
We used to joke that the only game that could kill tarkov is tarkov
And here we are. Tarkov is killing tarkov
We are finally escaping from Tarkov
Funny thing about EA and Ubisoft is they fucked us over gradually. Battlestate just literally jumped from 0 to 100 via fuckery.
If customers keep paying money to reward this behavior from companies, they will be partly responsible the next time a company does something like this.
This 100%
BSG became the biggest advocate to download the free single player mod that has far more customizable aspects and features, with AI pmc's and a functional flea market (which can be modded to reflect live prices).
Gonna fire it up after being uninstalled for 4 years. Just to try SPT. If I get banned I wouldn’t give a shit.
I don't even play Escape from Tarkov, and this whole situation is pissing me off
Same! Lol I have never played it and I am ligit angry
What has happened to the gaming industry? its like theres no passion left, just greed.
Welcome to "modern gaming" this shit started YEARS ago
Wonder why more and more people are turning to indie games and retro games.
the consoomers hv just as much fault as the greedy devs. preorder this, preorder that. microtransc this n that
Oublishers abd no morals
Yup yup, Axis Arise … It is precisely that there is just greed
first time ive seen one of your vids in so long. you were like the only channel i used to watch back in the day when mgsv:tpp wasnt out yet. every day id get home from school to check your channel and see if you had any news about mgsv. cant believe that was 10 years ago, glad to see youre still making content
Yong please do a video about the Gothic Remake game, which just released a 200 bucks collectors edition pre order without having ever show any kind of gameplay. All of those practices must be met with backlash so they will stop here and not be followed by other publishers as well
I made a accidental purchase and they refused to refund my $10 the next day... I even told them, "Pls refund me, so I can buy your $150 pack instead".... They refused saying they just don't want to refund me..
I was angry at the time, but then I was happy because thanks to that poor customer service they saved me $140 in the end and ALL other cash I would of dropped on this game. Fuck them, their loss! 🤣
Well, just the fact you’re playing this game…. Looks like you have a history of garbage choices
@@The80Kat Well, atleast you didn't call me trash like the rest of your worthless opinion posts. Thanks? Haha 🤣
Yeah their customer support is absolutely horrendous. Once I had issues with my twitch drops just vanishing into thin air despite claiming them they disappeared from my in-game inbox, their customer support said 'we won't do anything about it because the game is in beta and wipes happen, so there is nothing we can do', well if the game is in beta then I guess I shouldn't play it since nothing I do in it really matters.
I stopped playing shortly after, the cheating situation made my choice even easier.
R.I.P. Escape From Tarkov, better off just downloading mods for Stalker Shadow of Chernobyl and wait for Stalker 2 later this year
Yhes, nothing bad happens to Stalker 2
CoC and Anomaly FTW! 🍻
@@user-nw1je1ur6tthat ominous, can I know why?
Also you can use Spt for single player experience
@@lol22964 soon
The unique knife is like a 5 dollar asset shop item as well. Greed extreme
I've already escaped from Tarkov by not even touching this game, checkmate Battlestate Games.
Games that need to be in “beta” for years and years don’t know what they are doing.
….but they sure do know how to try these Ed, Edd, and Eddy schemes.
they gotta get those jawbreakers somehow
@@jackfruit420 looking for suckers who might buy
The difference is that the eds only want a couple of quarters for candy, the developers of escape from tarkov want over a hundred dollars for DLC that was supposed to be free for EOD players, even Mr Krabs isn't that greedy.
beta doesn't mean what it used to these days. In a regular dev cycle, a beta would be a game with all the finalized content that only needs to be polished (like replacing placeholder UI, fixing bugs, QoL and balance changes). But today, you can keep adding new content to a game, no matter how broken or unfinished it is at release. It's like we are always on a midway point between an alpha and a beta.
Games like these say they are on "beta" to cover up their jank as "we are still on development". They will NEVER leave that safety net, like many other titles of this type. Seen this with Star Citizen, with HAWKEN and many other titles that are permanently in early access but don't remember right now because they are just that forgettable.
Only costs a trillion Quarters @@jackfruit420
Unheard Edition. What an ironic name.
I jokingly called it “Uninstalled Edition” and my friends got mad at me
@@HunterAnsorge-ok9jkDamn sounds like your “friends” are the same people thinking to buy a $250 Wack A$$ “DLC” Scam 🗣️🗣️🔥🔥
years of trust smoked like a cigarette. I never thought i will literally escape from tarkov...
As a, uh, 'capsaicin enthusiast' I loved that pepper flakes variation of the classic saying.
Very fitting and ouch! Been there.
The developer that was caught copyright striking any video talking bad things about their video game doing shit? What a big surprise!
Another company added to the "never-again-buy" list.
If its an offline game... Then I'll wait for the pirated version 🏴☠️ Arrrr me matey!!
- "This new mode that we all know is wanted will only be added in the $250 version of the game."
- "Didn't you promise all upcoming DLC would be free for all Season Pass owners?"
- "Yeah, but this content is not DLC, I've decided."
- "Doesn't DLC stand for Downloadable Content and therefore would make this DLC?"
- "Listen, I'm gonna ask you to get _all the way off my back_ about that definition, OK?"
- "Oh, OK. Let me get off of that thing!"
My favourite part of the Unheard Edition is the Unity Asset Store knife you get that apparently cost them $6 for the commercial licence.
$250 for a $6 knife is truly the wildest ask out of any developer out there
DLC means Downloadable Content. If you had to pay for it after buying the game, its DLC.
Exactly. This is literally content you need to download. By any definition it is DLC.
Dlc isn't just content you have to pay for. Dlc is literally any content you download. DLC aka Down Loadable Content.
DLC, as a term, is losing its meaning when physical/offline media is going extinct
New workaround: They send it out as a physical disc (Remember those?) or on a USB thingy.
Can't be DLC if you didn't download it!
@@errorx_x1063its not going extinct. there is a push, by those who would stand to benefit to benefit, to make it extinct.
This is actually one of the better videos covering this topic from outside the community.... Even though there was and update more or less giving people what they want 16 hours or so before this video was uploaded.
Admittedly the things being pointed at as pay-to-win where the kind of stupid trivial things while there were so other items not in the game yet that could potentially be very problematic especially if not supplied to other players through in game tasks or such.
It's crazy when "Alpha" and "Beta" used to mean I give you cheaper/free game if you Q/A my game free(rather than me paying people to do so) before it is finalised... And now they are willing to basically screw people over in a way even kickstarter would have issues with allowing.
Warframe has been doing this for 11 years now, they just had their 11 year anniversary. it is nuts.
There are so many issues with the current situation it's hard to say which is worst. How they tried to scam them, going back on their word, their whole response to the situation, then the immediate back peddling from the backlash with a non-apology to players its astounding how terrible this all went down
this is how capitalism functions find the pain point of purchase and stick close to it
Changing terms after the transaction is nothing new in gaming and it was established with applaud of gamers themselves.
Just few years back Bethesda did the same thing. They sold people season pass for Fallout 4 promising all future content then out of the blue added creation club (something that wasn't even teased when season passes were first sold) and were arguing that this is a completely different thing, not a DLC, even when made by Bethesda employees (They did all sort of gymnastics to avoid any label, they were also arguing these weren't paid mods...just creations made by modders that you pay for and many of them were a version of already existing mods....) so it's not covered by their obligation. They did all the same tricks with changing website description and such to change terms of the transaction made years before
I remember how much hate was directed at guy (from what was reported it was still a kid and his parents) who was actually trying to fight Bethesda to get what was originally promised to him. No idea if they came to agreement or if the lawsuit was dropped but in any case it got potentially solved for one guy but rest of the community got ripped and they were actually happy about it
@@archibaldthearcher There seems to be a lot of situations where gamers cheer for something only to start griping about it later. There are so many incidences where I got dismissed by gamers on things, I pointed out, to only see the collective gaming community gripe about it later.
Just to give you an idea. After quitting on battlefront 1, EA released a skirmish mode so fans could play walker assault mode offline for free. This is like if EA decided to lock that update behind a 250 dollar paywall. Not even EA has dared to do this crap.
Not *yet* anyways...
KNOCK ON WOOD AND TOSS SALT IMMEDIATELY
EA and all other AAA publishes WILL start doing this if they get out of this with thousands of sales of this edition. It's all about artificially raising the prices of games from $80 to $250.....without actually raising the price. It's all about how much $$$....and how fast they can get it.
A few things to clear up:
EOD owners never had to throw an extra $250 to get this edition. This edition has always been sold at a discounted price, based on the edition you currently own. Originally, EOD players had to pay an additional $100, which has since been taken down to $50.
BSG not only lied to EOD owners, they changed wording on their website in order to make it look like they never promised some of these things, thinking we wouldn't notice but we very much did. They lied about changing it too, saying "we did not do that."
Yong's video is good, but he is missing key points in the story and straight up getting some things wrong.
It seems he didn't do as good of research as he shuold have.
So glad you made this video. I was waiting all weekend for this and it did not disappoint! Always love your exposure on scummy things game developers are doing.
EA: *"WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!"*
I'm scared this is a reality despite me not buying an EA game in years.
Then again, people don't trust EA at all so, maybe it won't be as bad if players know that the game they're is gonna be bad in the first place?
You know it's bad when such blazing greed is so *unheard* of, people will joke that Ubisoft and EA are taking notes on how you got away, with such *unheard* of disrespect.
Let's see what you could buy with 250$;
50 copies of Vampire survivors.
12 copies of Valhiem.
8 copies of Deep Rock Galactic.
*And maybe 1 full experience of Destiny 2.*
How about a year of gamepass, Stella blade , ff rebirth and helldiver.
@@krazyd0nut404
6 copies of hell divers 2
slightly more than a year for game pass (179$ per year)
3 copies of stella blade
3 copies of ff rebirth.
About 100 copies of PayDay 2 when it goes on its yearly super sale, 25 copies of Stalker which you can then add the free CoC or Anomaly mods which are better than tarkov (and what tarkov was trying to mimic in the first place)...
Yeah. This is INSANE.
whats crazy is that ppl have spent more money in f2p games for overpriced cosmetics
Another one: Right now on sale, EVERY. LIKE A DRAGON. GAME. Plus the additional stuff for KIwami 2 and 6. Everything else the ultimate ripoff editions. Total Cost less than $210 ($207.27 to be exact). Less if you don't want to be ripped off by the terrible stuff as well. Spend your cash on Like a Dragon instead.
Edit: Forgot to add the Judgment games into the equation. But I guess if you wanted THOSE too, you could just spend a bit more than what Tarkov's devs are demanding and get 2 more masterpieces or just don't buy the dlc for the mainline LADs. They're ripoffs anyway.
I'm having flashbacks to that court scene defending loot boxes and changing their name. 🤣😂🤣😂🤣
HOLY SHIT. Bro I have not seen your videos in so long. I used to watch you so much but the algorithm said duck you i guess lol. Goddamn you are yolked now, You look great’ keep it up!!
250$ is crazy. That's a percentage of rent alone. AAA Gaming my ass. HellDivers and stellar blade are where it's at.
That is so beyond the moon, it beats even the 'expected' premium editions on the price scale, alone.
It's NOT an offline PVE mode!! It uses their online servers. Which according to a Twitter post can be invaded by cheaters.
They never claim it to be an ''offline PvE mode'' to be fair. they just say PvE with co-op mode and persistent progression, no wipes. the ''no wipes'' and ''persistent progression'' indicates they have persistent control over the servers you will be playing in still. peer to peer would be better but for now, clearly not possible.
The cheater issue is something that has plagued tarkov perhaps more so than any other game simply due to the fact getting killed in tarkov is more costly to you as a player than most other games. I dont think we can just blame the developers for this, they are clearly heavily targeted thanks to the nature of the game and ability to engage in RMT (real money trade) and if we know anything about cheaters and the cheat systems out there, they rarely can be beaten, if cheaters really really want to fuck your game, consider it fucked.
@@jinx20001lol imagine defending them right now
@jinx20001 At 1:09 in the video it literally says "PLAY OFFLINE with friends."
@@isaiahgonzales9989 yes it says that… however yongyea has made a mistake in saying that is the part exclusive to the new edition of the game… its the follow up part that is exclusive to the new edition which is the part that says PvE co-op.
The “play offline with friends” part is not exclusive to the new edition of the game, that is referring to offline practice co-op mode which is a separate part of the game in which you can play offline with friends but there is no quests and no progression. This is offline and you can set up the game to your liking, how many scavs spawn in, how aggressive they are etc.
They probably should have left that out of the trailer since it is already in the game so I can see where the confusion comes from but the important part is the part after that “PvE co-op”, this is the part exclusive to that edition.
Again something regular players would know but not people looking in from the outside that do not play the game. Don’t get me wrong though, that’s absolutely the fault of the devs creating the trailer, very easy mistake to make when they put play offline with friends.
@@WolfyRagnarok I’m not defending them,
I am as pissed as anybody else, I own the EOD edition of the game and they went back on their word on what we get, very scummy and they deserve all the backlash they get… but some things are being complained about that are just incorrect but being used to stoke the fire.
For example there is a seemingly big issue with pay to win mechanics but anybody that actually plays the game and understands how it works should know that for example gaining level 6 with fence is incredibly difficult, I’ve never done it in 3000 hours and that is required in game before you get the perk “AI scavs don’t shoot first over 60m away”. You can not pay for the new edition and gain that perk, if you could it would be pay to win, but you actually have to earn it in game and it is not easy at all, it’s actually a pretty good addition to the game to reward that achievement but people see that perk and instantly say that it’s bullshit because you are paying for that advantage. That is absolutely not the case. So I will point out things like that.
Yeah the left behind edition coupon would mean I couldn’t play offline with my friends, if four new players wanted to fill an offline lobby and play the game together without being hounded by hackers it would cost ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS, which is absolutely INSANE. Especially the rumors involving the ability for hackers to enter your offline raids.
If the Escape from Tarkov crew were smart they would have made the Unheard edition a physical edition with the only way to access the PVE mode being through a physical disk, then add some actual physical items. That way they could actually argue that PVE isn't DLC, and the $250 price tag would at least be in line with other Ultimate physical editions sold by other studios. Not that I think this would be a good practice that should be normalized.
They can't do that simply because of how the game is made. EFT is a single player game made multiplayer. If cheaters got a hold of a CD with the game they could make cheating even worse. This is why they are forced to keep their offline mode online.
@@legendtoni1094 ehhh cheating is already super easy for them, they can download the entire game and mod it with the SPT AKI offline mode, it wouldn't matter that much.
I understand 250 bucks for a game is insane. But damn, 250 bucks for a single game mode. That is certainly pushing it.
Ubisoft: WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE IT DOWWWNNNN
“How much is a banana, Michael? 10$ ?!” ~Game Devs
And you're not even getting any kind of useless bust or statue with it.
Pushing it? Nah, this is stuffing the corpse into a rail gun and punting it into the heart of the sun 😂
I don't play escape from tarkov, not my type of game, but this is bovine faecal matter and now that they've made this move, other devs and publishers (mostly publishers) are now watching this unfold to see how they can twist their version of this nonsense to normalise it and screw the rest of us 🤬
That's an understatement friend.
I was waiting for you to cover this. The discord and the subreddit have been a battleground.
Not really. Pretty much everyone unanimously agrees it's bull. It's more like watching a group of dogs jumping a squirrel.
@@dudebruh8534 Thats fair. I'm more referring to what I saw (2 ish nights ago) with the, what i assume trolls, stoking the flames supporting the update
@@Noidicus327 Oh fair enough. Sadly those breeds of fools exist I will admit.
@@dudebruh8534 yeah or others that are so up their companies butt that theyll dis a company for one thing but support a company that does the same thing or worse.
No joke i had a falling out with a guy on discord cause i asked others "Hey is FF14 any good?" And he went off "Dont get FF14. those greedy scum bags at Square, if you you want to play a good mmo by a good compay play WoW" 😐
The unheard of version is called that because this level of audacity is unheard of
$250 is more than the original steel battalion WITH the huge cockpit filling controller assembly. Full on hardware. They want to charge that much for a single mode, I want a Mech with that.
Damn, not even blizzard murdered trust as hard as they did
They were just the forerunners of this crap.
they already caved earlier today and now give pve mode for free to EOD holders permanently and will be later separately sold available for everyone🤣
their PR team was already begging for sweet relief of death
i got eod and havent touched it, might update it lmao.
fucking greedy assholes
"in waves" and "after release"... The game is 8 years in beta now. It'll likely be dead before release
Too late, they destroyed the good will of their player base and no doubt lost plenty of players
@@lif6737
lol I doubt that. Gamers cry a lot but most will stick around
Meanwhile, STALKER GAMMA, Anomaly and EFP are free
I guess this is the overwatch 2 treatment but worse
Agree, we got a half ass pve mode for $15…. lol 😅
@@krazyd0nut404 and onlt for 6 months remember.
at least blizzard was bought by microsoft and they can get more money but from my limited research the devs for this game is pretty small and not backed by a corporation. they either shape up or this game is shutting down.
I hate this industry.
Welcome home. Before you leave for a new home take this as it’s dangerous to go alone without it.
"The heat isn't on ME anymore, LET ME JUMP ON THE BANDWAGON NOW!"
"You play on our servers, only in closed mode" - so the OFFLINE mode is still online? Now that's an interesting interpretation of those words. I would have expected this mode to offer true offline play, e.g. with two consoles in the same wifi, with one of them hosting a local server.
Could've just said LAN. There's a term to describe it.
Wow, they somehow managed to do it even worse than Ubisoft with that timegated-PVE-now-released-standalone-unfinished-at-full-price mess way back with Rainbow Six
This definitely has merit for legal action against this company.
How so?
Good luck they're russian developers
In a civilized and developed country or legal framework this would be on the table. Sadly, the devs belong to the lawless fetal alcohol syndrome region of the planet.
It would have, but the devs are based in russia so... nah. The legal system there is just for getting rid of political enemies. You can't actually sue a company there. Well you can sue but you're not winning.
@@EskChan19 Holy moly. So that's how these companies are getting over on gamers now. They set themselves up from the start with bad faith.
I had never even heard of this game until this.
Ubisoft: "Quick!, write that down!"
That "unique" knife is actually a cheap asset from the unity store. They're literally so lazy that they repackage assets and resell them as their own.
Apparently not true. The models' wireframes are different. The BSG blade's texture is also different.
I'm not at all involved in game development, so I wouldn't know the truth behind it. But yes, the two models are extremely similar.
@@andrewmcarthur8078If the model in question is not specifically based off of a real life knife, then it seems strange to copy another model like that down to a tee.
@@JackFoxtrotEDM oh I agree. But from what I've seen there are differences in the models. Like I said, the wireframes are different and the blade's texture is also different.
The first AAAAAAAAA videogame.
Well it being a Nonuple A game would certainly nail the Non part of the equation...
Thank you battlestate games for an amazing idea that i can apply to my home now, will come up with new ways how to rename my property so i can comfortably avoid all the property taxes, because it only applies to me and my property. Taxes be gone!💀
Raptors always gotta test the fences...
Flecks of pepper? Is that a new way to say "Salt in the wound"?
Yong has a way with words and vocab.
Every day game developers are getting more and more outrageous with this type of pay to win scammy games.
I'm surprised Ubisoft and Activision still haven't done that
This makes duke nukem forever look decent
at least duke nukem forever got a real release act man
@@Windchanter420true
At least its DLC is the game's saving grace
I think the real reason this is so expensive is because they are afraid of people cracking it but ironically, pricing it this high will make people want to pirate it even more.
Fun fact : The PVE promised is on a private server, meaning cheaters can get in them to ruin everything.
I don't think I ever saw a game developer burn community goodwill so quickly. Has to be some sort of record there because I don't think EA, Activision/Blizzard, and Ubisoft have burned away community goodwill so quickly.
I started playing my old ps2 games and I’m having a magical time with soul cal 3
For $250, it better be a physical edition with art book/soundtrack/figure/etc AND in game goodies.
You know it’s bad when Helldivers are roasting them for it
Not only reddit and Twitter is on fire. Tiktok is also on fire. That's how I learned this yesterday. I never had any shooter things in my algorithm and still got the rage. Says everything.
I straight up said the first time I tried Tarkov that if they had an offline PvE mode with full progression you probably couldn’t get me to stop playing it ever considering the weapon customization and the dedication to realism. $250 for it? Unreal
It’s not offline even. You still are on a server.
$420NZ, there isn't a yikes big enough.
Never thought I see the day when a $499 game console would look like a good deal compared to a single game.
Is yikes forever big enough?
Roughly the same price here in Australia. It’s beyond the joke of a price you can buy a new console
Is that with the added fees? You don't get the game for the 250. You're also paying taxes etc on top
@@rebel4466 Wow I did not know that. Prices are generally tax inclusive in NZ.
You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain. Greed gets everyone in the end.
Sometimes when I close my eyes I can't see
This feels like a fairly easy breach of contract lawsuit.
250$ is like how much my phone and intenet bill are
Where? In finland those cost 5-6 times less a month
@@Sulamanjansulttaani well i dont live in finland
@@SulamanjansulttaaniProbably the States, companies are ridiculous here.
@Sulamanjansulttaani Most be nice to have a country that cares for its people. Come to America and pray you can get back from the grocery store without catching a bullet and that'd a good day 💀
@@JackFoxtrotEDMyou’re boned when it comes to internet but plenty of other options for affordable cell service. I pay $250 a year in the states for my phone.