1851 Colt Navy in 44 Caliber--The Deluxe Engraved Edition! But is it Accurate???
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- Technically, a "Navy" is 36 caliber. This is actually a 44 caliber (Army) colt on an 1851 Navy Frame! Closest relative in history...Dance Brothers CSA 44 caliber revolver!
In this week's video, I shoot my newly acquired 1851 Navy in 44 Caliber, with the Deluxe Engraving on a Brass Frame (by Pietta). Its a beautiful Cap & Balll Revolver and I put it through its paces on the @CapBallFanatic-gb3jb range!
Whenever an 1851 Navy in 44 caliber is mentioned, we have to deal with whether it was real or a fantasy revolver! I do that here! But...in the end...WHO CARES? It's a blast!
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I only have one comment, Get Some Mr. Stone! We love you and thank you for sharing joy in a world that is in dire need of it. I don't know the future, but the man that played Moses from the good book said, From my Cold Dead Hands, Amen, when the boys in The Alamo were surrounded by Santa Ana's troops and they demanded surrender, Travis shot a cannon at them. After Pearl harbor a small island called Wake had a handful of U.S. Marines defending it and it cost the Japanese 820 killed, 333 wounded, and Rocky Balboa whooped Ivan Drago.
Thank you my friend! Thank you!!! Rocky did whoop Drago! I agree that we are really short on joy! For our community I’m trying to give a touch! It sure brings me joy! Thanks again!
Beautifull weapon !
Bought the same one for my father in law last year for Father’s Day. Only gripe I have is the plastic grips. Pietta makes the same gun with wooden grips with I “thought” I purchased. He loves it though.
That’s my only gripe too! It’s a cool revolver though. Thanks!!!
Really sharp looking .44 navy. Don’t care if it’s a “fantasy “ piece.
The Revolver that didn’t exist … But Should Have !
Yes it should have!!!
Nice looking 1851 Colt! .44 cal is a step up, better late than never.
Indeed my friend. It’s purdy.
I have many different Cap Guns .
But I really like my Pietta Sheriff model brass 5" 44 .
It's a lot of fun to shoot
Indeed it is my friend
Fantasy gun or noi...that is a beautiful revolver. Accurate, too. Pietta builds excellent firearms. Yours is no exception.
Amen!
I purchased one of those a few years back. I a made one piece handgrip out of some nice figured walnut. It's a beautiful fantasy pistol.
Yea. Needs new grips for sure!
Reality or fantasy? Who cares, it’s sexy!
Indeed yes!
Right! Heck, many women out there are kinda fake too. However, they are still beautiful sexy women.
@usnchief1339 lol! I agree.
I had a similar gun some years ago. Mine was made by ASM and that gun shot better than you would expect. It didn't bother me about the presumed lack of historical precedence as it was fun to shoot. I have a photo of me somewhere displaying that gun at the Gettysburg Battlefield. None of the deceased soldiers ghosts rose up and objected.
lol! And if they’d found one on the battlefield they’d have used it and not argued about whether it belonged!!! Thanks
Nice shooting, beautiful piece. Color me interested to see ya mess around with something a little heavier, projectile wise.
great vidio sir very nice looking pistol awsome 50 yard shot love it thank you for sharing
Thanks my friend.
I like the capper holder!
Yes. It’s sweet! Just got it. It’s a Ted cash product
Oh that’s a modified JD Dance replica! lol
Beautiful day it seems in Michigan. Heading up home for a Michigan and Lions weekend in Sept. 🏈
Yes. It is nice this week! Humidity down. No rain finally.
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb every region is beautiful but Michigan has a few Trump cards that’s for sure. I am getting a .44 1851 next, hopefully the steel framed, nickel plated, engraved Pietta.
I'd shoot it all day long and twice on Sundays. I think you meant to say that if it had a round barrel it would be a Griswald and Gunnison pistol. The Dance Brothers didn't have the recoil shield. And I think the Dance Brothers had steel frames. Regardless of any of that I'd love to have that gun. It's a fine shooter.
Thanks! I mentioned the dance steel frame. In general, 44 cal on a navy frame was the dance. I know the lack of shield. They are fun! Thanks
I enjoy your channel. I agree, no doubt somebody swapped parts between Colt models and fabricated a .44 cal other than the 1860.
No doubt. I mean the dance brothers CSA 44 cal is basically it. Thanks a lot.
Beautiful gun
It really is
Great looking revolver and some pretty good shooting. Who cares about authenticity ?
As long as it’s cap n ball…who cares. I do sometimes care but we aren’t all in that space. I want people in the hobby so let’s not put all kinds of rules on having fun. It’s ok to be correct…I just don’t demand everyone else do it! Thanks
Oh that’s a modified JD Dance replica! Lol
Yea. That’s it!!! This is the new one I told you about a while ago’
If I'm "historically re-enacting" I wouldn't use this pistol; for anything else, heck yeah!
Me too!
as far as "period correct"goes try this one of my guns which is a .44 cal. 3" octagon barrel with no rammer hole, army cylinder and army grips. It should give a purist a heart attack but a 20 yard joy to shoot. The cylinder loads off gun using a press The trouble tp load is more than made up by the fun shooting..
lol! That’s great!!!
I have several brass frame as well as steel frame percussion revolvers and can't really see any difference in the performance. If I was that concerned about the historical aspect, I would save up a few dollars and buy an original. There are still plenty of originals available if you want to spend the money. The ones I really laugh at are the guys that want to tell you how inferior or unsafe brass frames are. I was at the Alamo just yesterday and they have original canons that shoot 4 inch balls. The internet gurus want to tell you that those are not brass but are bronze. Bronze usually turns reddish brown with a very green patina as it ages. These still look like brass and the historical documents call them brass, so I am not going to argue about alloys. The bottom line is buy the gun you are happy with and enjoy it. Thanks for another good video.
I could not agree more! And since I don’t have $$ to buy all originals…I’ll enjoy the ones I have. This is supposed to be fun…I want to keep it that way. Thanks.
Another fun video to brighten up the week. I'm curious to know.... why do you take a step backwards after every shot?
Thank you! So I start with feet parallel and step towards the target with my right foot and the back to parallel. Sometimes editing removes the step forward so you only see the step back. It’s just a rhythm thing I got into…not sure you’d wanna teach technical shooting off me but it works. It’s based on the pistol shooting technique trained by union army in 1860s sort of. … start with revolver pointed up at chest level Thanks. I’m a rhythm guy.
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb Thanks J, Interesting. If it's historically correct and worked in the 1860s it obviously still does, keep it alive. 👍
@85waspnest thanks. We will!
Good shootin’, J! The groups on your new pistol look pretty tight! High left very consistently, very tight group. I really enjoy your content and congratulations on your new pistol! I have a question for you, off topic. Have you ever worn a brass frame pistol completely out? Or to the point that the accuracy or safety was degraded or compromised? I am just curious, as I’m a newcomer to the cap and ball pistol scene. If you recall, I have the plain Jane 1851 Navy in .44 with brass frame, and when I got it I couldn’t find any black powder or Pyrex, so I bought triple 7 powder. From what I’ve gleaned from watching several CZcams channels, it’s safe to shoot, but in brass frame revolvers, the charge should be reduced by 25% off the black powder load. So that’s what I have done and it seems to work well. So with the black powder charge calling for 25 grains of bp, I use about 18 grains of the triple 7 powder. The recoil is nominal and the accuracy is good. All this being said, I want to shoot this pistol for many years to come and prevent overloading and wearing the pistol out. So what are your thoughts? Have you ever worn out a pistol? Do you think I have adjusted my powder loads adequately to prevent excessive wear on the brass frame? Thanks J for another great video!
I have never worn out a brass! But…I think you’re on the right track loading lighter. That’s what I do…on this one 22 grains is pushing it! If I’d been shooting pyrodex or Swiss it would have been 18 grains cause those 2 pack more wallop. Keep doing what you’re doing and you should get lots or rounds and years out of yours. Light loads work and tend to be more accurate in my opinion.
The 1851 Navy was only in .36 caliber!
If you want a .44 get an 1860 Army!
The whole point of black powder shooting is its historical links to the past!
You shot that weapon well. You enjoyed it, and gave a good showing of it's capabilities. Who cares if it's not "historically correct" ?
Are Ruger Old Army pistols called historically correct ? Of course not. Their cartridge single actions aren't either. Yet people shoot em and have fun with them. 👍
Thank you my friend! I agree. It really seems to be this one that gets called out…not the ruger!!!
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb Well they're missing out on a lot of fun. Oh well, that's their loss.😉 Stay safe amigo! I really appreciate your dedication to charcoal burning wheelguns! 👍
@anangryranger thank you brother. Appreciate it
J-Stone did you see the confederate tridute engraved navy that was one pretty gun i saw it on midway usa in 2020 but had just bought my kentucy rifle so couldnt reall afford it at tje time
I’m not sure! Is it still out there?
@@CapBallFanatic-gb3jb yes it is still on the midway usa website its engraved has csa engraved on it and instead of the battle of campeche naval warfare scene
it has been replaced with the confederate battle flag rather attractive gun if i do say so myself
@GeorgiaRidgerunner thanks. I’ll check it out.
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IF IT'S 44 CALIBER IT IS NOT A NAVY!!!!!????????!!!!!!!!