Is there a glue that binds Brahman and Maya? | Swami Sarvapriyananda
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- Swami Sarvapriyananda discusses the questions, “Is consciousness everywhere, not just in living things? What is the glue that binds Brahman and Maya together?"
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Have never understood Brahman and Maya with such clarity! Thank you swamiji!
"What is the glue that binds the wood to the shape (of the table)." Brilliant!. 🙏
Swami Sarvapriyananda is a sun who distributes the light of Vedanta wisdom in this world of darkness and blindness.
Gratitude Swamiji for shining on those who love you.
The only glue which binds Brahman and Maya is the "mind" from the most fundemental all encompassing cosmic mind (mahat) down to that of various sentient beings (jiva, deva etc) at various stages and realms with their corresponding limiting conditions
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I think it is the attachments to samsara that serve as the binding glue since the same mind when detached leads you to the self
He is so clear in his mind. This 'clearness' comes to the mind occassionally and goes. He cultivated that 'that occassional all sudden clearnesses' and made that permanent. Perhaps, we fail to cultivate those flashes.
Swamiji Sarvapriyanandaji is GREAT SAINT
This is a tough concept that plurality is singular. Thank you
Brahman is Maya in the way determinism & free will are one.
Hey!!! This is sounding really deep and profound. Could you please elaborate. I understand why determinism (causation) and how ignorance leads to free will (false identification). Could you please help me by elaborating your comment. It's a very very good analogy i feel
@@saisathyam5953 I am not sure how he got to this conclusion. But Arthur Schopenhauer said something similar: To Schopenhauer, the (blind, not godly) will is the substance of the universe. It is our substance as well. Thus, we do not HAVE a will to steward, but we ARE will. In this sense, the whole universe is determined, but the determining force itself is pure will. And that will is free in that it has no boundaries.
consciousness is manifested in life. but the feeling that its not manifested in other things, is precisely what stops us from self realization. That's one of the things we need to overcome to truly realize oneness. Life appears to have more sense organs, but inanimate matter has molecular memory, perhaps even atomic memory. Perhaps it takes longer, for inanimate matter to come to decisions, and react to its environment, but consciousness is outside time Perhaps it needs more space, to process sophisticated details, but consciousness transcends space. And the universe has a lot of space. all those planets and gravitational fields and photons, process a lot of information, even in a newtonian universe. So much more, in a quantum universe. Thank you.
When Swamiji, with so much confidence and fluency, speaks. I feel as if I am getting a glimpse of Swami Vivekananda. Pronam Maharaj ji.
I read the bhagavat Gita, in it Bhagavan says ‘y inferior energies are divided 8 fold, earth, water, wind, fire; space, ego, mind and intellect. Know my higher energies, atman. Know that you are my higher energy. In this further he says I am present in every atom, in every particle. So therefore, God is saying he is everything and everything is within him. We have to realize our true identity as atman/soul/the self. And that we are god. We are made out of the higher energy of god. Everything rests inside of God. He is the cause and the dissolution. He is everything. And because of the infinite nature, he is also nothing. That is my understanding. Once one realizes the truth, there are no questions, the mind settles, and there are only answers. No more worries and anxieties. Only answers. It is my wish all reach its state. 🌺🌸🙏
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 HE is one of HIS kind🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 obviously how can he have a second😂 that would have become a countable second to HIM😂 blessed indeed are those who hear and revere HIM. More blessed are those who have unwavering indomitable mumukshatva backed by vigjnyana vairagya and shadsampat.🙏🙏
What clarity of consciousness and may a!
I like this analogy which is sort of a thought experiment: What is the total energy of the universe? To me it seems the answer must be zero. No other answer makes sense.
Ultimate ONE
All matter us an appearance in Consciousness 🙏🕉️
Overwhelming....🙏
Thanks you Swamiji. It is always an inspiration listening to you - Om Shanthi
Hari om
Thanks Uncle
প্রণাম স্বামীজী 🙏
I have a doubt if we die we are carrying our karma and experiencing life and problems in another body in another life whereas the karma is itself not of that soul because all souls are same it doesn't have any gender and karmas is of the previous body then how can new body be punished for deeds of previous body who is experiencing what in this case
A body is nothing but a piece of a biological meat , my perspective is their is Lord bramha from which every soul comes it is the spark it enters a body and create a illusion of identity the ego the soul does not suffer but the false identity will the ego the soul is always pure it never die neither born niether you can hurt the soul or anything
@@TeddyBunny. if it is only false identity which should suffer then why should there grudge to make it suffer even in next birth
Jai Jai Jai Gurudev 🙏
स्वामी जी प्रणाम❤❤🎉
Logical and Psychological.. Beautiful 🙏
Beautiful answer 🙏🏽
Pranam, Swamiji
I just love ur talks swamiji I discover new things with your every talk pranamam swamiji 😊
we are missing Swamiji's live Q&A Sessions and live lectures. when will he start online sessions again please vedanta new york?
Following
What swami ji is telling that everything is in consciousness including the world which is appearing can be cognized easily with virtual reality metophor ..Tom Campbell and his MBT metophors are very good to understand vedanta
Many flaws in Tom Campbell's theory. See the video links
Swamiji, if Brahman is Nirgun ie without characteristic or quality, how can maya come out of it? Gold is having characteristics of formability, wood also has Guna of workability so shapes can be formed out of these and hence they can not be called Nirguna and hence not comparable. How can Nirgun create or even make illusions like Sagun?. Pranam.
It is the principle, spirit, or pneuma of all matter. That’s why the fibonacci starts as such; 1:1, 2, 3, 5. The first one has not attributes because it comes before. It is that which gives attribution to the things after.
It’s like light and illumination, nobody has ever seen the source point from which illumination eminates (light) but people have see the atribute of light (illumination)
@@MidoriTaka Thank you Swamiji. The analogy to some extent cleared confusion. It is understood, clarity on Brahman is impossible for an un illuminated soul.
PRANAAM MAHARAJ 🙏 🙏
By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another. -John 13:35
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The purpose of Maya is Love.
What is love ?
Love is Life.
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I have seen the way the earth takes a seed
And with care, gives us a flower, a tree
Or something on which you can feed
That is love, love is life, love, I love you
I will see the day when men will come together
Every blind man will use his eyes to see
There will come a day, I know, 'cause I'm a believer
And love will find a way
Every man will sing, love, I love you
Hear sweat voices ring, love, I love you
Together we will sing, love, I love you
I have seen the way God's earth lives for the sun
Welcome, sun, shine on him, on me, on life, on everyone
That is love, love is life, love, I love you
I will see the day when men will come together
Every blind man will use his eyes to see
There will come a day, I know, 'cause I'm a believer
And love will find a way
Every man will sing, love, I love you
Hear sweat voices ring, love, I love you
Together we will sing, love, I love you
Yeah, yeah
- Lyrics by Hot Chocolate except the Title "Love is Life" which is Universal.
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Maya is present only to tempt one to love and admire a otherwise non existent universe
Consciousness only manifests in the dream
Revered Maharaj has cleared many misunderstandings about Advaita Vedanta. But, I have a question, that emerges from my Ignorance and misunderstanding, that 'Is the bracelet and gold completely identical'? In terms of substance, obviously, the bracelet is nothing but gold. But, to make the bracelet some forces had to be applied. Heat mend the gold, the goldsmith at first conceptualized the design and then applied mechanical force to make it a bracelet. Some impurities also had to be added. So, when we call the bracelet is nothing but gold, we ignore the forces applied on gold and the imagination of goldsmith.
The same argument may be applicable in the imagery of wood & table, water & wave.
I do humbly pray to Revered Maharaj to clear my doubts and misunderstandings.
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Is there an online community in insta maybe where we viewers can connect?
If consciousness is ultimate reality, can this consciousness make (1+1=3) ???? If not then consciousness is not ultimate reality, its the foundational principles of logic and mathematics the ultimate reality as abstract object, which set the parameters of all possible worlds.
Further to this, qn exist is, still we all have pain,
societal construction, earth quake, uncompassionate people, volcanic eruption, etc etc.......is it maya? Real?!!!!
We need to understand what is real and what's not
That which is always present and never changes it is real and in this case our Self this I am is real it is always present
But this world including our bodymind is always coming going and changes and therefore it is called unreal and when something is unreal in itself and we have experience of it it is called appearance like the mirage water of the desert.
There's never two one alone but because of the appearances of the bodymind and world seems that there's two .
How does this appearance appear
There's no explanation of it but it is just called adbhootam wow magic.
What explanation can there be? You're seeking a cause for causation itself. The question in principle can have no definitive answer. Brahman shines forth; what more needs to be known, or even can be known? Who is it that says any separate thing appears at all?
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Then the forms we worship are also Maya?
Vidya maya
Can Brahman exist, if there is no universe? Vedanta states that the undifferentiated Nirguna Brahman differentiated itself in name and form and seen as the universe. If the universe always existed in some form with no beginning and no end, then Brahma and Maya always exist together. Samkhya Darshana states that Purusha (Brahma in Vedanta) and Prakriti (Maya in Vedanta) always exist together.
Do current scientific discoveries indicating endless cycles of creation, maintenance and destruction, align with Sankhya Darshan or Vedanta Darshan or both?
BTW, Veda Vyas, who wrote Brahma Sutras, the basic text of Vedanta also taught Samkhya Darshan extensively in Mahabharata. In ancient times, these darshanas seem to be intertwined and not antagonistic with each other. Any thoughts on this?
Vedanta states that Brahman is existence itself and not a "thing" which exists or possesses existence as a quality. The appearance of differentiation is just that--an appearance. The universe which appears and the knowers to whom it appears are all just Brahman. All theories, ideas, and beliefs are within Maya and are only relevant within it. Purusha refers to the seer and Prakriti refers to the seen. In sankhya philosophy these are two independent realities, but in vedantic philosophy these are the two aspects of Maya which arise and disappear together as experienced reality.
தமிழில் கேளவி மற்றும் விளக்கத்தின் சுருக்கம்.
கேள்வி: தூய அறிவுதான் மெய்ப்பொருள் , அதுதான் எல்லாம், தூய அறிவு எங்கும் நிறைந்துள்ளது, அது உயிருள்ளவை உயிரற்றவைகளைப் பற்றியது அல்ல. அது எல்லாவற்றிலும் நிறைந்தது. இது பொதுவாக புரிந்துகொள்ளப்படுவது இல்லை. பெரும்பாலும் உயிர்களுடனேயே அறிவுணர்வு தொடர்படுத்தப்பட்டு விடுகிறது. அது அவ்வாறு அல்ல என்று நான் உணர்கிறேன். இதை தெளிவுபடுத்தவேண்டும். மற்றும் ஈசுவரன் என்பது பிரம்மம் மற்றும் மாயா இரண்டின் பிணைப்பு..
சுவாமி இங்கே குறுக்கிட்டு விளக்குகிறார்.
Ok I will explain it. Your true nature is consciousness you are now also consciousness but this mind and body does not know it. In reality there is only the real you (consciousness). In reality here is only the real you and this world,body and this body''s mind is nothing the real you''s imagination. You imagine this body and world, not only this world but also the dream world. When the real you stop imagining then there is nothing not even blank space(because it is also imagination) and that we all call the deep sleep. But one cannot deny that he/she is not present. Therefore maya is nothing but Brahman''s imagination. You are not what you imagine and you are not what you see in this imagination( waking and dreaming world). You are that which witness this imagination , what you witness is not you just your imagination. You are that when you are not imagining anything(deep sleep) but this world is nothing but your imagination on yourself.Thanks for reading.
@@samudramanna.79 sorry but can you come straight to point because I don't understand it.
@@samudramanna.79 sorry but can you come straight to point because I don't understand it.
Why all these discussions without first hand experience
@@samudramanna.79 no no. I mean all this cud be the play of mind. Deceiving the very being .
@@sivakumarp1010 If I don''t have a first hand experience can I explain it this briefly? I know who I am in reality thanks to swami ji and my efforts. I am just helping others to realize me. I am always present but only few know me and others are busy with their sensual activities. Therefore please consider the above logics and statement as a help towards enlightment.
With all respect to Swami and Advaita Vedanta, they do not explain what is Maya and how did it came about and for which purpose. Saying that you ask the wrong question is avoiding the subject. Vedanta is very logic, based on common sense and based on our experience. Like we experience consciousness, we also experience Maya. To say that Maya is appearance inside Brahman is a big jump, like the hard problem of consciousness, please show us the proof. Also the concept of God is not clear in this picture, it is not Brahman and is not Maya, so what is it and how did he/it came about? Very confusing.
कुछ बात समझ में तो अब आई हैं स्वामी जी। सब ब्रह्म की जादूगरी दिख रही स्वामी जी।। वह एक बन अनेक स्वर्ण के अनंत गहने। माया के खेल सबकुछ बताते हो स्वामी जी।।छोटा बड़ा सभी वह सर्वत्र सदा है। जो मैं हूं वह वहीं हैं भ्रमित मन है स्वामी जी।। जब काठ बन गया है मेज ,मेज बन सके न काठ। तब मैं बना जो उससे कैसे बनूं वहीं मैं? जड़ जड़ से बन सके हैं चेतन से बने चेतन।जब हो गया परिवर्तन तब कैसे होगा वर्तन?धन्यवाद
सागर में उठीं लहरें दिखतीं अनेक तो हैं। पर खेल रहा पानी यह तर्क सही लगता। मिट्टी से घडे बनते मिट मिट के बने मिट्टी। जड़ जड़ से अगर मिलते चेतन से मिले चेतन। अद्वैत तब कहां है।प्रत्यक्ष द्वैत दिखता। धन्यवाद
Gold, as an example, is problematic for me. Gold is still a physical material. It may be acted upon, and have its form changed into a ring, bracelet, etc. But it has attributes even without a form. For instance, it's a type of metal.
Brahman is without attributes. Maya has attributes. From WHERE did attributes arise if Brahman is without them? Even if the attributes are Mithya, where did the idea of the attributes come from if Brahman is Nirguna?
Why bother saying there is Maya at all? Why not just say that the reality we perceive at the physical level and the reality at the sub-atomic level are the same; that only the appearance changes?
இப்போது உங்கள் இரண்டாவது கேள்வியைக் கேளுங்கள்.
கேள்வி : ஈசுவரன் என்பது மாயையுடன் கூடிய பிரம்மம் என்று கூறப்படுகிறது. பிரம்மம் என்பது குணங்கள் அற்றது. நிர்குணம். மாயை என்பது பெயர் மற்றும் வடிவம் . இந்த இரண்டும் எந்தப் பசையால் பிணைக்கப்பட்டு உள்ளது?
சுவாமி: அவை இரண்டு அல்ல. அவை ஒன்றுடன் ஒன்றாகப் பிணைக்கப்படவும் இல்லை.நிர்குண பிரம்மத்தின் கோணத்திலிருந்து பார்த்தால் அது எப்போதும் நிர்குணம்தான். அது தன்னியல்பான இருப்பு அறிவுணர்வு அனந்தமாக இருக்கிறது.
மாயாவின் இருப்புத்தன்மை என்பது பிரம்மத்தின் இருப்புத்தன்மையின் தளத்தில் இல்லை. மாயை என்பது தோற்றம். அது நிர்க்குண பிரம்மத்தில் பெயர் வடிவமாக தோன்றுகிறது. அந்த தோற்றத்துடன் கூடிய நிர்க்குண பிரம்மம் தான் ஈசுவரன் எனப்படுகிறது. எனவே மாயா என்பது தனித்து எண்ணக்கூடிய இரண்டாவது அல்ல. எப்பொழுதும் உள்ளது ஒன்றுதான் அது இருப்பு அறிவு அனந்தம்.
ஆனால் நாம் நமக்கு தோன்றக்கூடிய இந்த வியப்பூட்டும் விதவிதமான விந்தைத் தோற்றங்களை எப்படி நியாயப்படுத்துவது? ஒன்றே ஒன்றான சத்சித்அனந்தமான பிரம்மம்தான் கோடானுகோடி விதவிதமான உயிருள்ளவை உயிரற்ற அணுக்கள் அணுத்துகள்கள் நட்சத்திர மண்டலங்கள் என்று தோன்றுகிறது. அதுதான் மாயை. அது பிரம்மத்திலிருந்து வேறு இல்லை. அத்வைதம் இதை மிகப்பெரிய சிக்கலாக பொருட்படுத்துவதில்லை எளிதாக விளக்குகிறது.உதாரணமாக தங்கச் சங்கிலியை உருக்கி தங்கத்தை வேறு ஒரு ஆபரணமாக உபயோகப்படுத்தலாம். பெயர் வடிவம் உபயோகம் மாறலாம் ஆனால் ஆதாரமானதுதான் தங்கம்தான். அப்படித்தான் மாயை என்பது பெயர் வடிவம் பயனாக வரையறுக்கப்பட்டு உள்ளது. உண்மையில் தங்கம் மட்டும்தான் உள்ளது. நீங்கள் தங்கச் சங்கிலி என்று கூறும்பொழுது அது தங்கம் மட்டும்தான் சங்கிலி என்பது மாயை (பெயர் வடிவம் பயன்).அது இரண்டாவதாக இல்லை. தங்கத்தையும் சங்கிலியையும் தனித்தனியே காண்பிக்க முடியுமா? முடியாது. தாற்காலிகமாக தங்கத்தில் பெயர் வடிவம் பயன் தோன்றி மறைகிறது அது வேறு வேறாக பன்மைத் தன்மை உடையதாக தோன்றுகிறது அதுதான் மாயை. உண்மையில் ஒன்றுதான் இருக்கிறது அதுதான் பலவிதமாக இருக்கிறது.
எனவே உங்கள் கேள்விக்கு (பிரம்மத்தை மாயையுடன் பிணைக்கும் பசை எது?)விடை இரண்டு இல்லை எனவே அதை பிணைக்கும் பசை என்பதும் இல்லை. உதாரணத்திற்கு மேசை என்பது மரம் மற்றும் மேசைக்கான வடிவம் என்று கொண்டால் மேசைக்கான வடிவத்தை மேசையுடன் பிணைக்கும் பசை என்ன என்று கேள்விக்கு நிகரான கேள்வி. நீங்கள் இப்போது சொல்வீர்கள் கேள்வி சரியான கேள்வி அல்ல என்று.
மாயையின் மந்திரம்தான் இது.
வேறுவேறாக தோற்றுவிப்பதுதான் மாயை அதுதான் சம்சாரத்தின் மகத்தான தோற்றம் . அது என்ன என்று புரிந்து கொண்டு ஒன்றான பிரம்மம்தான் அது என்று உணர்ந்துகொள்ளும்போது நீங்கள் நிர்வாணத்தை உணர்கிறீர்கள். சம்சாரமும் நிர்வாணமும் இரண்டுமே பிரம்மத்தில்தான் தோன்றுகிறது. சம்சாரத்தில் உலகத்தின் இன்ப துன்பங்களாகவும் நிர்வாணத்தில் வீடுபேறாகவும் தோன்றுகிறது.
If everything is consciousness, what is Non Living Matter??? In the world, we see consciousness as an emergent property from non living matter, not the other way.
If everything is consciuosness then how unconsious matters arise and exist from consciousness??? Your table is not conscious.
In your dream what is the table? Is it really a non sentient piece of wood? Or is it nothing but a projection of your mind 😛
@@oln3678 So far i dont see anything in my dream which i dont experience through my senses both living and nonliving, or conscious and unconscious.
And if ultimate reality is consciousness, what then are abstract objects like mathematical and logical truths, how they are related to consciousness as an ontological category??? ...We experience a mathematical and logical universe space and time, so whynot any mathematical abstract object the ultimate reality, from which both mind and matter, space and time emerge.
@oln3678 Based on my understanding, consciousness has nothing to do with awareness of living beings. Here, consciousness means the trinity of existence, knowledge, and bliss. It is just that living beings can manifest consciousness most accurately. Non-living beings, though inside consciousness, can not manifest it as they lack energy body or pranamaya kosha ( one of the 5 sheaths).
Why does the so-called maya appear in Brahman? And the maya is predominantly pain and suffering.
It cannot be so simple.
There is something more sinister to it especially because there is immense pain and suffering in this manifestation.
And if this manifestation where life eats life every day every second,, more than 10000 diseases such as cancer, paralysis etc, natural calamities such as earthquakes, floods, tsunamis that kill and maim millions including children is intrinsic to Brahman, then Brahman is sadistic and we are doomed.
When questioned along these lines I've often read of Ramana Maharshi pointing to the example of deep sleep to draw attention to the fact that the primal state is one of peace and bliss. You can't recall your deep sleep, but you reflect on it and none of the problems of the waking world appeared to you then. What changes between then and the waking state is the knowledge of the ego and all of its associated fabrications. The things you see in the world are less real than you are because they depend on you for their existence. These cannot touch the real you, you simply appropriate them out of primordial ignorance and entangle them with the appearance of a separate self which appears to be the knower of the world. In reality, Brahman is existence consciousness bliss alone, shining forth by its nature. The separate you which you believe yourself to be sees problems in the world of appearance and asks why Brahman allows the suffering it sees. But Brahman sees no suffering and knows no suffering, because that which appears only seems to do so due to ignorance. Does suffering appear? Yes, and therefore it is neither real nor unreal. Know it for what it is though, as an appearance in your reality and said suffering cannot touch you. It will only touch the little body mind you currently believe yourself to be, but knowing it as false, it is transcended. Shining forth as the reality, you can then show the way for all still laboring under delusion. Prior to realization though, know that all suffering is as real as you are and that alleviating it will help you realize
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