2023 KTM 890 Adventure - Test, review and some first impressions
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- čas přidán 9. 09. 2024
- I got invited by KTM to help them organize the official launch for the new 2023 KTM 890 Adventure and so, I got a unique opportunity to try this bike before everyone else!
Its not a very in-depth review, more like a list of the new upates and a general overview of the bike. Later I might return to this incredible adventure bike and explore it a bit better :D
-Diogo Guerra
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now you see why we love ktm's so much, right? just something about it being a pure rider's bike. puts smile on your face every time and the rest simply stops to matter :)
Thank you for calling the electronic package ‘demo mode’ - calling it by its right name stops confusion.
Thank you for speaking about practical things like ergonomics - that’s something other reviewers don’t seem to speak about.
Congrats mate for the recognition! This is not a trivial thing. You deserve it.
The bike is absolutely stunning for me as a KTM owner. I appreciate that KTM does updates every year, new screen and regulated fork - this is exactly what I waited for.
I like the way you speak English, I’m going to try the ktm next week. Greeting from Belgium.
The first worldwide review! Great, as usual. But I didn't get any meh. There must be at least a meh! And the quickshifter....
Wow, that is so awesome that KTM asked you to help them with the testing etc. Well done man! And you're closing in on 15000 subs😎
Just subbed… It’s a RACE to 15k! I’m at 14,772 …
@@manybikes You've got 14773 now :)
Hey Francois! Thanks for watching and commenting! I have you video about the next bike to buy for the challenge on my watch list! I will watch it and comment asap :p
@@manybikes ahah, i like that race! Keep em coming! 😁😁 Thanks for watching and commenting!
Seeing a behind the scenes of such an event would be great, I'm already excited
I traded in my 1090R for a ‘22 890R. Agree with you they feel a generation ahead from the rest.
Sounds like an advertisement but after trying BMWs, Yamahas and Hondas, dynamically nothing gets close to KTMs 🍊
Suspicious that the windscreen wasn't in place for the test ride but available when standing still. Maybe they didn't get the bufferting right?
Good video as always
I suspect it is more motivated by avoiding the windscreens getting damaged before the press get their hands on the bikes and start taking promotional footage.
Thats exactly what I thought, it is suspicious.
My guess is that they didn’t want pics of the complete bike to surface before the official release date so the screen was left off for the running in procedure. Nothing to get suspicious about!!!
Yeah, as if they trailered the bike to where he is standing and not ride it on that road next to him.... smh
Looks like a good update. I'm pretty much set on a Tenere, but the 890 is sure tempting.
Love the reliability of my T7
Congrats Diogo! The total dream! Being the very first to get the hands on a bike!!
Very comprehensive and clear for a first impressions video!!!
Keep up the great work and I'll be looking forward to the next videos!!!
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Thank you for watching and for your ever present support, Rad! ;)
@@OFFroadOFFcourse 💪😎💪
Congrats Diogo on your top assignment 👏 You are the MAN 💪
I’m impressed how they took a bike that was less pleasing to the eye and made it this good looking!
Great to see you back on the screen my friend 😁
Less pleasing to the eye is an understatement 🤣
At least this one really looks good!
I was trying to be nice 😅
In my case I prefer the first version, that kind of "unique" design. Now the bike looks more like all others. "Les goûts et les couleurs..."
I'm one off the last guys to comment on a youtube video but I have to say I love your review, your comments and your attitude. I'd love to come train with you. It probably helps that I have a deposit on a 23 890 Adv R.
Oh my man, the 890 Adv R must be awesome! I am yet to try it, but its definitely the one I would go for if I could :D Congrats!
Thank you for watching the video and for the comment... i am not especially proud of this one, it was a bit rushed (but for a good reason), but it turned out to be useful, considering most people dont know anything about the bike yet :)
It looks a lot better than the previous 890 adventure! But there is something in my head that warns me to buy one, and that's the reliability of this bike. Maybe they have al the weak points make better but I still choose my T7 when I ride all the way to South Africa. Thanks for making this video mate! 🙏👍
Same. The 790/890 are not known to be the most reliable bikes. And i don't like that KTM fits all the electronics on this bike by standard and then the customer can either buy them or not. And if he/she decides not to buy them, technically it's all still there, just disabled via software..
Correct. BMW does the same with its cars. Clowns.
Agreed, then again how could it look worse? :)
Can't say anything about long term reliability but my KTM 890 AdvR with 8k kilometers and 1 year has zero issues.
the 990 has some issues, is difficult to service, and starts to feel loose as the mileage piles up. I’m not expecting BMW or Honda quality, but it seems the overall reliability became worse on the newer models. Also separately purchasing software for hardware that’s already on the bike is a big red flag in my book.
i was in a honda dealershop taking a look to the nc750x because it also has a lower center of gravity, and i couldnt believe how light it feels... KTM has been doing that for ages with its adventure bikes and i can feel your passion when u mention it
The more KTM looks like T7, the more I like them :) Great video again.
Ahah, yeah its true 🤣
Have you tried one of these? The 890 or the Norden?
@@OFFroadOFFcourse Actually not. (Only short on asphalt). But I don't dare. What if I like it more? I would have an identity crisis :D
@@NomadSweden yeah, sometimes ignorance is bliss... But i am sure the day will come , mwahahah 😈
Now I can look to this bike without start puking.
Parabéns Diogo!! Tu mereces!!
Define what you mean by “breaking in " 😂 gotta love the adventure when the bike breaks down. So much for a solo adventure.
Good honest review. Very informative. I’m certain you deserve new trousers too 😉
Great review Diogo. Thanks. A very impressive bike, but when I travel especially in Africa or Asia I'll take my T7.
Obrigado, Diogo, um vídeo como deve de ser, 👍
Congratulations on your deserved success Diogo working with KTM. It would be interesting if KTM made a 500EXC based Adventure with this game changing fuel tank design.
Great video, lovely to hear about ther bike and congratulations getting a ktm gig. They do so many things right!!!!
I'm biased since I own the '22 version of this bike, I love the 22's look way more.
easily the best video showing the details of the 890A
Glad to see your getting so many subscribers that’s awesome!!
This video is being a very big hit 😁 its especially good considering i haven't published anything in a long while! Thank you for watching man!
Congrats on getting involved with KTM. Well deserved! Looking forward to see the event.
Thank you for watching and commenting man :D i hope they let me publish the backstage footage..i promised i would show them first :o
@@OFFroadOFFcourse fingers crossed...
Muito bom, sempre em grande, abraço e boas curvas, on and off road
Looks beautiful! Hope KTM surprises us with a 490 adventure!
Oh ive been waiting for that one for a long time :p
Thanks for commenting!
@@OFFroadOFFcourse Me too but apparently it's been cancelled and they're launching a 690 ADV instead, can't wait to see that weight power combo on this line, may just be perfect..
I used to think the 890 would look way better if they just connected the fairing to the headlight like the 1290... and they finally did!
Apresentação Espetacular
Easy to disassemble is not a Word I would attribute to my 1290 SAS 😂 To change chain slider for instance you basically have to semi-remove rear tire and swingarm, front sprocket and clutchslave etc 👏
I have a 2021 890 Adv, haven't had a single problem with it, just fun!
Well done!
KTM should launch a bare bone 790 Adv Rally, without any electronic gizmos in it and ofcourse with a lower price tag.
I saw they released an updated standard 890, an updated R and updated 790 in the last couple of days and they all look pretty solid honestly. Looking forward to comparison videos.
Diogo, that was a great video! I'll "click the thingy" indeed! Thanks for posting. Hoping someone makes an adaptor kit or something to change my '22 to look like the 23!
Cool review, I can really relate to the opinion on what the beauty is in the 780/890 range, the functionality, engineered and less compromises. Not really the look, but the 2023 looks alot better from the flank. I liked that You demonstrated how it feels to lean and lift, this is something that really sticks out among the top-heavy "competitors". Happy new and shining Trails out there!
Muitos muitos parabéns Diogo! Mais que merecido e é sempre bom ver o bom trabalho ser valorizado :) Grande abraço e continua o bom trabalho
Obrigado por veres e pelo apoio Luis! 😁😁
Im very pleased you got an invite
Woohoo
Hello great channel very nice motorcycle ;)
Thanks for watching and commenting 😁😁
Highly interesting video and first impression! In the market for potential down-scaling from a 2019 1290SAS that has served me remarkably well for >55.000 kilometers. Minus one niggle dealt with under warranty (starter clutch) it's been brilliant. Didn't fancy or like the 2022 890. And not only because of its mantis appearance. This however, looks like something. It strikes me KTM might finally have brought back some design lines from 990. Looking forwards to updates!
hi what about the first strat of engine, when it s cold. Is it reliable. Does it start at the first time and keep on running? Because I have the 790 adventure and the first cold start of engine is unreliable. I have to start it on 4 or 6 times until it s capable of keep on running.
First video I see, you get my subscription. Really liked the content! And I am down to get one of the first 890ADV S in our city.
Hello man, welcome aboard! :D
Thanks for your words, but i feel this is actually the least produced review i've ever done (cause i had so little time for planning and editing).
Let me suggest that you take a look at some of my other work ^^
That thing with the “rally mode” is what would be referred to in the military as a c*&£’s trick!
hahahah.... yeah I am sure :P
Personally, I don't have a solid opinion yet....sounds fishy as hell, but on the other hand, they could simply charge for it since day 1... I dont know, I think I just got used to the world we live in :/
I'm glad you're back !
thanks for the video.
For me the problem with KTM is its electronic and mechanical reliability, the 790 gave different problems in this regard. and by 2023 KTM is going to sell it again!!!, I hope that without problems as recurring as the model from 3 years ago
Muito obrigado pela primeira vista da nova KTM. De facto parece uma maquina fantástica sem dúvida. A mim só esse deposito de combustível é que ainda me faz um bocado de confusão, talvez por ser em "plástico", talvez pela posição, não sei há qualquer coisa NAH para mim, mas entendo que melhora e muito o centro de gravidade, depois é a posição do escape, não estará demasiado saído lateralmente?? não irá danificar quem meter malas não rígidas?? em caso de queda o mesmo não embate no solo? mais de resto parece-me uma maquina que eu facilmente compraria se tivesse meios para isso
With new side cover (side cowling).. it looks gorgeous.. for previous model, the fork area was open..
The same weighting at larger lean angle is pretty interesting. I wonder if they will do that with the new 390 adv as well
Feel like I’m the only person that prefers the old looks
Definitely not :) My preferred look is the very first 790 Adventure and Adventure R. They was pretty uniques in kind with very strong visual signature from Kiska. The new versions looks more like "every others" in my opinion
Since you've done this review I've had Harley take back the Pan America because it was too unreliable. They had a 2018 KTM 1290 SA-R that I got but kinda knew it would be a bit too large for me. It was. So I have a 2022 890 Adventure S model. I love the bike it is so much fun to ride. I've had two issues, the screen going completely black on a ride. When I fueled up it came back on. The TFT display also gets the condensation in side that other KTM owners have complained of. It goes away as well but I assume that moisture inside the electronic dash is not good.
Other than that I love the bike and I've heard that the 2023 version's dash is improved along with a better suspension.
I am in love with these 890... so far, the best adv bike I ever got my dirty mittens on :O
@@OFFroadOFFcourse They are awesome performers… Yahoo!
Did you find the limits of the suspension of this bike on the tracks you did? Bottoming out, ground clearance, control over bumpy or rocky situations, going fast, …? Asking because I am not sure if I need the R or the standard one…
Honestly, I was expecting the "adv" version to be more limited... I also thought i would definitely need the "R" version, but after trying this one I KINDA changed my mind. You only need the R version if you plan to ride like a maniac on super hard environments :)
@@OFFroadOFFcourse yes, the adv seems the sensible one, but sometimes I like riding like a maniac on super hard environments…
You who have ridden both, How would you compare it to the Norden 901? Thanks for your videos!
Congrats!
Great first impression,presentation, review 😃
I like this fellow. Particularly his quip about the importance of doing power slides, such a big part of all reviews these days. Pathetic move by KTM to leave off the new screen.
Hey there! It didt have a windshield cause when i tested the bike they were still preparing them for the official launch. I was on the backstage of the launching event, not really in it (and thats why my review was the first ever 😁)
Ciao! Neanche l'ho presa in considerazione. Ho preso subito la 1290 S, un altro pianeta. Questa è poca cosa, meno meno del bicchiere mezzo pieno, buona per i ragazzetti.🥰🥰🥰🥰🥰
From your videos it seems you prefer the 890 to the 390. For a first bike which would you recommend?
I find it hard to recommend bikes cause I dont know you, or what you want to do with your motorcycles :/ There are no wrong bikes, only wrong choices :P
This being said, KTM 890 is my favorite offroad ADV bike (890 Adventure, 890 R, Norden 901, its all the same thing with slightly different flavours), so here you have my answer :D
@@OFFroadOFFcourse thank you! I am keen to do road and offroad riding, i hope 50/50 but in the UK offroad is difficult to find, so probably 70/30. I plan to bring my bike twice a year to Portugal wher i hope to do more offroad for the months i am here
cool, thanks, how would you compare to 690 Enduro?
Hey man! I dont' think I can write anything that you haven't read/seen before. Basically one is a big enduro bike (the 690), the other is a medium sized adventure bike.... they are not really comparable I think. Both are great, but choosing one or the other will depend greatly on what your really want (and know how) to do :o Sorry for a useless answer, but that question cant be answered in a short text :P
Love your videos:)
Hi thank you for all this information, very good . One question about this release first review...why they change the exhaust for this lauch review...
Hello fabien😁 they wanted to show the bikes with all the possible powerparts (some had Remus exhaust, others had Akaprovich, others had rally pegs, etc etc).
I was surprised with how silent all the biles were, even with these "open" exhausts. If i didnt know, i wouldnt guess it was not a stock exhaust
@OFFroadOFFcourse nice, thank you sir. I like to fallow you re review. Next summer I probably change my r1200gs (2018) for this ktm 890 adventure 2023... I need more Offroad capabilities ( wheel 21 and 18) and more lighter.
Have a good day
@@fabienpics thank you for watching my videos and respecting my opinions :)
If you need offroad skills (and off road fun), consider joining me in Portugal for one of my training tours 😁 check the website www.offroad-offcourse.com (its crap, but it will be updated :p)
mais um paquiderme para essa classe das motos aventura (coisa nem carne nem peixe...)
Realmente, acho q fazia falta era começarem a explorar outras areas do mercado, mas devo admitir q esta motoreca nao está nada má!
Gosto muito deste quadro/motor/tanques q eles andam a usar nesta "série" :)
Those 790/890 bikes are fantastic but the problem is that there're not reliable and have many problems that KTM don't care about ! For example since the launch of the 790 there have been problems tightening coolant hoses that you can allways have on the 890 ! Even if it's really easy to fix, 4 years of the same kind of problem ...
Thanks for your review. Would be cool to have your impression vs Norden 901. What would you choose now?
Hello! I would still go for the norden (or the 890r) cause i value off road performance. For me, it would make no sense to chose the least offroad capable of the 3 (even if it still is quite good)
Very helpful insights on the bike! I've been eyeing the 901, and the changes KTM made seem to come from the 901, with bigger fairings. The KTM still looks slimmer, but since you've ridden both can you comment on if the bike feels slimmer, and if there are any riding position changes that affect the ergos you praised?
KTM also just announced their newest 790 adventure. Seems confusing. How do you decide which model is right for you?
You test ride them.
Have they? Or is that an error, should be 890?
The 790 makes no sense. It's basically the same bike. It's not even like they have used the old 790 engine, the new 790 has the same heavier flywheel and clutch changes as the 22 890. Unless they are going dirt cheap, the 890 is the better buy.
@@mabsbry1318 No it's definitely back. Same as the 790 Duke. Weird.
I wonder how a short person would fit on this bike. Any idea?
Great first impression video! The seat sits over 33 inches correct? Do you know if there is a lowering kit for this bike? Have your road the R version of this bike? If so what do you think and how do they compare? Do you see this bike as an everyday bike or all arounder? Thanks
Yep, great review.
Thank you for the great review man, quick question why would someone choose the 890 adv R over the 901 or vice versa?
The 901 is a slightly more comfort oriented bike, and the R is a slightly lighter bike with better suspensions. I guess if you focus on offroas (and know how to ride fast and hard) the 890R could be a better choice. I was quite happy with the 901 honestly, but extremelly curious for the 890r
990 DNA in the S
Diogo, thank you for a nice overview. You mentioned that this bike has a new engine. Other reviewers of the 2023 KTM 890 Adventure say the engine is the same as it was last year (2022). Can you add some details?
I doesn't have a new engine. Did I say that?? When? :o
@@OFFroadOFFcourse Diogo, my apologies. I had been watching all of the YT vids I could regarding the '23 KTM 890 Adventure. I must have conflated a statement in another vid with your review! I did finally buy one here in Virginia at the end of March and 1 week later I passed 620 miles so I changed the oil (Motorex 10W-50 4T) and filters and screens myself and rode it for another 6 days exploring higher engine speeds before my appointment with my local KTM dealer for the remainder of the official 620 mile service. The dealer said he loaded 3 different software updates. One included engine management. I have noticed two things since then - the engine is amazingly strong past 6200RPM, absolutely ready to race, and the quick-shifter is now considerably smoother than before the tune up, so all is good!
Nice bike Diogo!
bom conteúdo, sim senhor 👌
Ma prochaine🤩👍✌
Kinda disappointed in the redesign. It was always worth paying more for the KTM/dealing with frequent maintenance
not only because of the performance but they were also so good looking. You know that feeling when you get off the bike and turn around to look at it a few times as you walk away? These don’t do that for me
Did u get a chance to look at the upcoming 390 Adv and 390 Rally..😍😍😍😍😍
Lower tank should be optional.
Come on man, what do you mean? That lower tank is what makes this bike different 😁
I would not buy one until KTM addresses the cam failures that are detailed on the enthusiast sites.
Sorry but the new dash looks so reflective similar to a mirror...
Muito obrigado! I think I see my next bike under you there. Please don't break my bike😛
Much better than the old 790/890, those bikes never looked right,looked like they should have come with 19/17" wheels, and should have kept the big wheels for the 'R' model. Shame there isn't a base model without all the electronic garbage, probably the reason they keep the 690 simple,have that as their RTW bike(albeit,dodgy fuel pumps)? Still no fan of the h'lamp design, hope Rade Garage build a conversion once again, a vast improvement on looks? KTM were still trying to sell 2020 model 790's here,1 or 2 still available, so maybe a 2022 890 might get really cheap now(£7499 for a 790),I'll need to watch the marketplace! Good review, just do not ask me to repeat your name! :)
Great video Diogo! When are you getting one for yourself? 😃
I hope they are washing the fuel tanks now before selling the bikes. 890s around the world were sold with remaining powder from molding and people were changing fuel pumps like undewear.
There was NO need to change the pump, only clean it. And that issue was mainly with the first run of the 790.
@@mosa4688 a guy I know changed 4 pumps on a brand new motorcycle
@@lefterisbampaidis5446 I had the problem on my 2019 790 - the tank was white inside and the pump filter element was completely blocked. I took the pump out (super easy to do) removed the filter screen, cleaned it - and the tank (I did not trust the dealer to do it properly and they are 120ks away) and never a problem since. Should have only needed to be done (or replaced) once. Obviously the tank was not cleaned out properly.
Now KTM WON the design of it looks MORE BIKE than previous "insect " design look
Nice review... any chance you are going to test a Desert X to compare it to this ones?
Very nice first impressions video! Time to upgrade the XT? :-)
I am surprised that there is the new 890 . hope that it s not gonna have the rear shock problem like norden 901.
As you spend so much time with the KTM's guys, may you be a kind of insider - do the work on a 490 platform at the moment ? 🤫
Hello! What's the difference between this beauty and the new 2023 adventure 790?
The 790 front suspension is not adjustable and the 790 engine is being made in China are the two major differences
Espero que la nueva versión de la electrónica Bosch sea mas fiable y que no produzca los números problemas con las alertas MTC control error, ABS error, etc. ni la rotura de los sensores de cigüeñal; que no valen para nada pero parece que rompen. Por lo demas no existe mejor tráil sin duda
First watched for your opinion (fantic cabalerro rally) but now watch for because it’s good, but now find it might be the bike for me ? My wallet is not thanking you but I am 😂
UGLY ! And demo mode is most likely the biggest scam in motorcycle industry. Only thing i find good is the low center of gravity that they learned from BMW boxer engines.
May be, but when you ride off-road you want functionality, not a showroom princess. And these bikes are way ahead of anything else in the same segment.
@@hansenallan84 , i dont know hans, this looks to me like a showroom princess. T7 looks much more hard Core to me , its only issue for me is the weight, just look at CZcams videos, guys take more time picking them up then riding 😄. I think KTM have better handling but less reliability and weight Will also be a issue. Im waiting for some manufacturer to bring back something like a DRZ400 back .
@@Mike.4639 like I said, looks are not that important 🤗 To me the handling, capability and smiles per gallon is the most important factor 😍
It looks better. Not great, but it's tolerable now. If KTM allows me to have a test ride, I may consider one.
I never liked the looks. Then I rode one off-road. I am relatively unskilled still but what a weapon. The weight distribution, adjustable traction and throttle response are fantastic. I'd love the new 890 apart from the showroom cost, but seriously looking for 790 adventure r second-hand.
@@davidcook8681 Yes so many people just look at it from their seat at the coffee shop. All the Adventure range are truly beautiful from behind the handlebars, where it counts.
I'm sorry but now the football match between Poland and Argentina is more important :)
That bike looks and sounds fantastic and I'm sure that it will set up your tent and cook dinner for you when you arrive at your camping destination.
How on earth can they release bikes for a test review without windscreens? Surprisingly and suspiciously incompetent for such a major bike manufacturer!
If you're buying one of these bikes within the first year after their release, you're doing KTM's product testing for them.