Bruce Prichard shoots on WWE firing The Kat
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Bruce knows more about the firing then he’s saying here...he has that “tow the company line” octave he gets when he can’t say more.
Toe. As in bare-knuckle boxing.
@@theradgegadgie6352 i see what you did there
So? She wasn’t well liked. She got a push because of Jerry and she looked good.
No reason to hide anything and he’s not ashamed to say when he doesn’t wanna talk about something
@@CaliburManThanks for your input Bruce 😂
Bruce is such a company man, not biased at all....
Paid off for him now that he had a job again. Good for him to go beyond ass kissing for years and years.
@@BizzyIzzy87 Right...at least being Vince's minion pansy, paid off in the end.
"Yo Vince!"
"Hey Random Dudes from Creative. How goes it?"
"We want you to fire Stacy Carter."
"Oh really? Is she refusing to do something?"
"Nah, she's just generally a pain in the butt -nothing specific."
"Well, say no more. I'll fire her immediately. Even though she's in the middle of an angle that will have to be cut short with no explanation. Also, firing her with no clear reason will probably make her husband, one of our two main commentators, quit before we can establish a replacement. But that's OK.
Never let it be said that Vince McMahon let making good business decisions get in the way of being the bitch of Random Guys from Creative."
Something about this doesn't ring true.
Assuming it wasn’t Prichard, that leaves Stephanie McMahon, Kevin Dunn, Pat Patterson, Brian Gewirtz, and/or Chris Kresski…
She just wasn’t good.
Lawler didn't want to lose his hot young wife lol .
Fernicus Maximus jokes on him she divorced him away after three months
The price you pay for a hot young wife I guess lol.
She was a gold digger.
@Last Drop Falls Why dump american wives
Boom Diggaty lol solid joke
she took her top off no one else in the company did. how difficult could she have been?
Jackie did it.
@@BlackNerdist it was a wardrobe malfunction, not on purpose
@@gaea2114 Pretty sure that was scripted, that’s why Sable ripped it off. It was obvious Jacqueline wasn’t wearing a bra.
Bruce's story doesn't line up exactly to JRs. I believe JR personally.
According to Jim Ross, Kitty was more "business savvy" than "difficult to work with". He said she would question storylines, as to why she (her character, that is) would do something and how it would benefit her. One of the creative team got fed up with her asking questions and went to Vince, who fired her. JR wasn't there when it happened, as he has said if he was, he could have tried to smooth it over or just send her home for a few weeks until everything had cooled down.
Unbelievably unfair, you need to give this company 90 days notice when you're leaving, but like anywhere else, you can be fired on the spot.
Yeah, gotta love that bullshit...
@@motherlovinsnuffstar yup its bs alright
That independent contractor bullshit
Everything about a WWE contract is unfair
Real story was she was having an affair with a wrestler in the "Dupp family", King was aware of it. I guess after the Chyna-Steph-HHH debacle they wanted to squash that crap before it got worse. After all the King isn't married to her long after all this.
I think The Kat was the first woman I ever found sexually attractive, although I was too young to process, understand or act upon those feelings.
Same here. That bubble wrap bikini might have been my first legitimate boner moment. Lol
@@velvetpilot2008 don't forget about sable
Wait... So you're telling me that someone had an attitude problem during the attitude era?
I mean... what dude would sit there and keep working while your wife gets fired? That's a no-win scenario for him. He stays there, she never forgives him, it eats away at her until she leaves him. He quits for solidarity, he loses his income, and no guarantee she'll even appreciate what he's done for her. Has there EVER been a good, happy ending type story when 2 married people work together? I guess the bottom line, the takeaway from all this is, do not work with your wife. Period.
Also, if I was Lawler I'd absolutely think they wanted to get rid of me, and this was their way of making me quit. Even if I stayed, I'd never be able to trust them again.
dan fred me better question who the fuck wants to work with their significant other
A LOT of couples between the women's and men's roster at the moment
@@A-small-amount-of-peas N most of em don't last.
She was banging another guy already and everyone knew about it
King doesn't want to say he got cucked.
Look up Dupp Family/the Kat, I think that's the real reason.
Lmao, Lawler the Molester got too old for her. 🤣
Been waiting on this juicy story for about a year from Bruce...lips closed tight, towing company line and rumor and innuendo...thx Bruce 😥
why you think he was rehired recently. pro wwe
Did you expect anything different?
It was pretty tasteless to come to King and say something to the effect of, “How should we handle this?” If you’re going to fire her, you should be the ones to tell her she’s fired. Don’t pass it off to the husband.
True, BUT, the way Jerry worded it according to his book, he made it sound like he woulda been OK with THAT, but NOT OK with somebody ELSE doing it. I mean, if he was mad nobody came to HER and told her (which by his own words, he was), then why would he have been OK with someone coming to HIM first ? That confuses me.
I think you're misunderstanding what the conversation was about. This was JR going to his friend and saying "We are about to fire your wife" and trying to get his reaction to the news from the source and not hear it second hand. Nothing tasteless in that. If anything, it's what I would do if I was put in the same position.
no kidding....what hr dept in the world would do that?
I guess I’m looking at it different.... I’m taking it as a friend letting his friend know what’s about to happen before it hit the street.
@@stevelockwood9551 HR and Talent Relations are two seperate departments in the WWE, at least now a days so it’s not really a HR Issue.
Many buckets were spilled to the kat
So the King quit when his wife got fired, but not when his son got fired. Great father.
Not to mention a child molester
Christopher got fired, for getting caught with drugs in customs, and refusing to go to rehab. Lawler's hands were tied with that one. Kat got fired, with bullshit reasoning, not only that, they wanted Lawler to break the news to her. Not really a fair comparison.
C B1983 That’s why the charges were dropped when the girl said she made the story up in an attempt to make her boyfriend jealous.
C B1983 No, he didn’t. He was cleared. She recanted her story. For fuck sake, why must you continue to lie about someone. Bet you are a dirt sheet reader.
Joseph Nicolino Brian Christopher was fired months after this, because he got caught with drugs in Canada.
Right to Censor was fun.
The artful dodger!
This still isnt the whole truth...
There is a huge gap here still. She has a bad attitude but nobody addresses it with her and just straight fires here. Makes no sense.
Bruce would never let the truth get in the way of a story.
It sounds plausible tbh, in any job scenario, if someone is too hard to work with, you weigh what they bring to the table then take an action based on that. I think she left the business permanently after this, so maybe this was making things tougher. Who knows
GR AWAKENDREAM The Kat did some Indy shows with Jerry Lawler after they both left WWF in 01, since WCW went out of business shortly after this. After she and Lawler spilt up, he went back to WWF in November of that same year, and she left the business.
@@joes4194 Yeah, all Bruce does in this is talk in circles about how it all went down...how they decided to release Stacy and telling Lawler that she's fired and him leaving in protest...but we don't know WHY it happened. They said The Kat had major attitude issues as she let fame and fortune go to her head which made her increasingly impossible to work with..but we don't know what was the straw the broke the camel's back.
Armageddon 1999.... I was there.
Bruce prichards impressions probably the best in the biz lol
From what JR said Stacey probably had much more knowledge than the writers. So she wanted to understand and make sure things make sense.
Exactly… she would simply just ask questions and that alone was enough to piss creative off 🤔😆
She had more knowledge of the business then guys like Russo… makes perfect sense why they wouldn’t like her
Of all the divas in wwf/e at that time, Kat was the hottest IMHO. Followed by Lita.
I agree
TSotP My opinion the hottest women from 2000-early 01 WWF, were Trish Stratus, Debra, Terri Runnels, The Kat, Lita, and Chyna( who looked great during that era). Stephanie McMahon 02-03 was at her hottest.
@@antoniusjohnson3824 Stephanie before the boob job, Molly Holly, and Ivory were my favorites.
For me Sable will always be the one, but Ivory and Victoria is definitely a close 2nd. But everyone had A opinion.
Stacy kiebler
Damn right there were rumors! I remember hearing and reading a ton of rumors. I was glad to see Jerry come back.
Wish this was the Brother Love Podcast.
It's understandable why Kevin Dunne wasn't more involved. He did have a quota to fill of logs to carve with his teeth.
Even if Bruce Prichard's version is totally true, the question that was asked still stands. Why wasn't she told that her attitude was a problem and that she would have to change it or be let go?
Prichard is a conman, fraud and liar, as demonstrated and proven by Dave Meltzer.
@@MattSingh1 lol you give Meltzer credibility. That's a good one
When I hear Conrad talk I keep thinking of Eugene from the walking dead
takerdust damn i cant un see it now
Mr. Garrison From South Park For Me.
Thank you for that now I love the show even more.
Affirmative.
All Mighty don’t you mean you can’t not hear it, now? What did op show you that you can’t “unsee”? Op didn’t say anything about something to see, he said something about hearing Conrad and thinking of Eugene. Lol
Hey Conrad, let's get an episode on Rick The Model Martel or Bam Bam
So WWE creative has enough power to get someone fired. The same WWE creative that has the shittiest story lines.
Look at what Ed Koskey and Ryan Ward did to Cody Rhodes after he publicly attack them.
Vince allows and encourages criticism to be directed at him, but Stephanie and Vince will blacklist you if you complain about the writers, who are actually the bookers too, by name.
Wwe didn’t offer Cody an offer to rejoin the company until the All In payperview sold out and Tony Khan said he’ll bankroll AEW.
They didn’t want him back (until it was too late) because he broke the one rule: don’t publicly complain about and namedrop the writers!
Right....they give these garbage storylines, & when they don't go over, they can just go to Vince & blame the talent?? What a joke.
Owen Hart was forced to do the Blue Blazer character again after he told Vince he didn't want to be involved in another angle that was thought up for him. (It contained him flirting and messing around with women. He was a devoted family guy) if he didn't do the Blue Blazer I'm sure he would have been fired like Stacy was. And it's because of the Blue Blazer act that Owen ended up losing his life
Fair point. WWF/E is a strange beast in that they publicly say they will entertain your ideas for characters and they "encourage new wrestlers to be creative" and ultimately it's on them to get themselves over.
But then they turn around and force you into a shitty gimmick and if you don't entertain it, you're gone. Only a few guys made it past that to become worthwhile.
@@velvetpilot2008 Oh yeah. At the end of the day WWF/E isn't just a business. . . It's sports SHOW business. It's just as cut throat as it is for, let's say, musicians, models, actors etc. You are there for your talent, but your talent is used to make money. If you don't generate enough revenue or do what you are told, they will kick you out and get someone younger, more attractive, more desperate and gullible to come in and replace you. It's as simple as that x
@@melissawright1979 They're hypocrites in a way and I'm sure it's worse now than when Owen wrestled there. Does the talent (not counting main eventers) even make enough money anymore? The PPV business is dead and WWE had to sell their network to Peacock. Which tells me it's no longer the money maker they thought it would be.
Remember when the network started in 2014 and ex-wrestlers were on podcasts talking about "how do they get paid anymore if the network is sold at $9.99/mo?"
What are ticket sales these days?! I know NOBODY watches RAW anymore. Sorry to go off topic but it sucks to see a business you loved as a kid go down the shitter.
Edit: the way you framed your original question is poignant. Owen Hart, lose your job or lose your life. Dramatic I know but it's essentially the choice he had looking back and the guy was probably the greatest employee WWF had at that time outside of Austin and Undertaker.
No, Owen died of a freak accident and nothing more. Both WWF and WCW have done entrances and surprises from the rafters and other places, and they are professional stuntmen actors. If you want to blame anyone blame the WCW rigging crew for failing their job. "Oh the rafters" that was Sting's daily gimmick of coming from the rafters.
That's not true at all. He wasn't forced to do anything.
And still the most obvious question isn't addressed; if they knew Lawler and how he'd react, and since he and JR were such good friends, etc, why didn't they simply call a meeting with both Lawler and Carter and address her behavior and give them a chance to fix the issue? It was done so swift and WWF wouldn't budge on their decision to let her go. If I had been Lawler I probably would've reacted the same way. And I love how Vince played coy and acted like he had no idea what happened or "why the decision was made", like it was too late. You're the F'in boss. You could've easily called an audible that made both sides happy. Seems like they wanted Lawler gone.
Because she was a worthless "talent" they had no use for anymore and they wanted to just get rid of her. The issue of her attitude was just the excuse to get rid of her. Her being married to Lawler was the only reason she probably had a job as long as she did. Read between the lines, that is basically what JR and Bruce we're saying.
What is there to be fixed. She cant wrestle and shes lazy. She never put in the effort to learn how to wrestle. She might have been relevant during the era of Sunny, Sable, Terri, etc. But she debut at the time of Ivory, Jacaie, Lita, Trish, Molly, etc. Women who could wrestle. WWE have to pay her an income and all she could do is to have a chocolate pudding mud match. Give me a break. She has been useless to the company for years. Her released had been long overdue.
Matthew Orbany If WWE was looking to get rid of her, then I don't understand why they would do an angle with her, and fire her right in the middle of it.
@@antoniusjohnson3824 They gave her an angle bcoz of Lawler and everybody knows WWE love Lawler. But in the end The Kat is just getting too much. Her release was more than deserving. The locker room hated her bcoz they need to put on a chocolate pudding match to put over as a womens champion. She really made the womens division a joke
Matthew Orbany she wasn’t lazy, she learned to wrestle towards the end of her career, and she only did what she was asked to do. Vince gave her the title remember?
Good ole JR just doing his job
I always wondered as a kid why Jerry would be head over heels for kat whenever she was on screen finding out they were married makes perfect sense now
I wish wwe would just fire Bruce so he wouldn't tread too carefully on EVERY podcast. We'd rather just know the truth
A common theme I notice is the writers can never be questioned. If they're questioned, people get buried or fired, or both. Not right.
WCW?? Didn't Paul Heyman replace Lawler? This was 2001.
This happened prior to the Raw after No Way Out 2001, which I believe was February 26, 2001, about a month before WWF bought out WCW
At that point, Turner was looking for a new buyer. In fact, the WWF and Turner were in negotiations until very late to acquire WCW. At the time of Lawler leaving, it wasn't known exactly what part of WCW was to be unloaded by Turner
AsnycnowRadio True. WCW has been up for sale at various times throughout 2000. WWF has been in talks in late 2000 to buy it, but negotiations fell through
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Guy Incognito they fell through because had they bought WCW, UPN would be slated to air WCW Nitro, along with Smackdown. Viacom who owned UPN basically said “fuck no, we want nothing to do with WCW” and that was due to WCW being a dead brand in 2000
I wonder if Bruce orchard is telling the truth about this issue. THIS situation almost seems twisted because lies and back stabbing goes around and gossiping stills remaining in wrestling today.
Mario A'Keen It wasn't a production team member, it was a wrestler from OVW.
Bruce Orchard?
The Kat had a hot feud with Terri Runnels in 2000.
Kat was the hottest Diva of all time. Stacy K. and Tori W. Were a very close runner up
Happy Belated Birthday to Stacy Lee Carter.9-29-70.Memphis
I've always heard that The Kat had a big head and was unpopular with the other girls.
somerville99 Ivory especially.
But NO OTHER FEMALE HAS SAID ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT HER, THERES NO PROOF, NO RECEIPTS, ONLY IVORY AND THATS IT
You probably kept hearing it from Bruce 😂
@@jtarantula3390 Not even Ivory. Ivory had an issue with the idea of Stacy being champion and being a wrestler. Not Stacy herself.
@@BlackNerdist she spoke very ill of Stacy. Look it up!
I met both Jerry and Kat, back when they did an MCW show in Aberdeen, MD. Got my pic taken with them and got to hold the crown. Vince deffinately knew he was about to own WCW and probably had a good laugh when he heard the threat...............
I live not far from Aberdeen..an worked on Aberdeen proving grounds for 8 years...
Chyna being in playboy should have been a crime in itself.
Unpopular opinion time: I loved Right to censor
Most people do lol. Not unpopular at all.
@@PatkaBoy831 good, im happy to be wrong then
They were a great stable fraction at the eve-endof the Attitude era. Lasted a wee bit longer than perhaps they should of, but it was great to see them have a match at WM17!!!
Some of those early promos lead by Stevie Richards were golden
Fucking hated their theme which made them unbearable
What were the rumors going around about her
She was having an affair with an OVW developmental wrestler, I first heard this story from Ivory's shoot interview with Kayfabe Commentaries. Jim Cornette probably cursed this guy out for it, since he was a huge fan and friend of Jerry Lawler.
Im still amazed that no one has ask me about this situation with jerry and kat since they both publicly blamed me for it and all thou I understand some people don't want to say they know the true reasons just to ignore it and act as if you don't know is just as wrong. Terry Golden
1) We always known Vince never lets sentimentality cloud his judgment when it comes to business decisions, so Jerry shouldn't be surprised with Vince's reaction.
2) This situation says a lot about the unknown consequences of "workplace" relationships(dating/married to someone working in the same company) and WWE is a probably a company, more than most, where such relationships should be avoided because its more likely to produce catastrophic results when those consequences appear.
Considering how absolutely dreadful the writing was back then, it's really surprising that they didn't try harder to compromise. It's not like Kat was the main event and King was integral to WWF at the time.
So kat was harder to get along with the writers than Shaun micheals GTFOH ..so they had to teach her a lesson I swear Guys are more emotional than kids
Dude should of said i am taking 3 wks vacation for my wife's firing. These stories are fascinating.
The Kat was so much fun!
Sure she was no Jacqueline but she was amazing as an entertainer.
Fun exciting and hot as hell!
She knew how to get a rise out of the fans!
My all time favorite
Jesus Lopez you serious man? She was bland as hell She only had the look and that’s it. Plus not “everything “ in the attitude era was great Honestly who has experienced it the attitude era stuff was kind of cringy in some aspects. It’s cool but it didn’t age well
The Kat was your all time favorite ? Hey everyone is entitled to there own opinion, I can't say I've ever heard that one prior to this moment
The Kat Was My 2nd Favorite Behind The Stunning Terri Runnels!
She got a rise out of me ;)
What is so much fun about her? Is it because u want to see her tits? You can go and watch porn and have a lot of better looking, bigger boobs than that no talent slut. She is a disgrace to womens wrestling.
Yeah....I don't think King is lying. Bruce will say anything, to make company look blameless. It's quite annoying actually, bc I like listening to him, but I can't stand when he pretends that Vince can do no wrong. It's so tiring.
Unfortunately, the GREAT Jackie Fargo was right.
He told Lawler to not bring her into the business. It would end horribly. She’d leave him. He was right, but you can’t reason with a man to believe that sticking by his wife isn’t always a good idea. Good thing about this, is he learned the hard way, that Jackie knows what he’s talking about.
U know what................I remember this too. I read Jerry's book. He talked about it. Jerry did right sticking by wife even though he found out she was seeing another man.🙄
What's the difference between color commentary and regular commentary?
@MemphoWrasslin1 thanks
Why would she be arguing about creative? She always took part in her storylines, no matter how stupid they were.
Bruce with detailed recollection >
Bruce is so full of it. How can he remember exactly how the meeting went down, including the city, yet can’t remember if he was still in Talent Relations or not.
I wish we would have gotten a feud between DX and RTC. I feel that it was a missed opportunity.
Let me take this moment to say something I've been holding in for decades
The RIGHT TO CENSOR stable was one of the most ingenious and greatest heat-inducing stables wrestling has ever seen. Changing THE GODFATHER to THE GOODFATHER was hilariously brilliant. They should have been bigger for longer.
Finally off my chest
Agreed. The heat they drew was unreal. I miss good stables like this.
"If putting people through tables is wrong, I dont wanna be right!"
-Buh Buh Ray Dudley
In the end they won and wrestling became woke censored boring trash
Bruce told the truth!
Granted, he left out massive nuggets of facts, avoiding issues like specific issues Stacy’s behavior, the Playboy Mansion visit and the Chyna kiss, but what he was saying was true.
Vince once told a story about while working for his father on the SCPS (Stone Cold Poscast). He was asked to replace one of the commentators during a show when one of them threatened to quit when he asked Vince sr. For pay bump.
When Vince sr. Didn’t obliged the commentator quit. Anyway the point is after hearing that story it completely changed my mind set on how Vince jr deals with being threatened during meeting over a problem.
Meaning?
@@VinDaddyCool Everyone is replaceable
@@violentbryan21and they are. It’s life. Can’t let one performer get that much of a strangle on your business.
They wanted Stacy The Kat Carter to wear underwear and you know The Kat's stance on underwear. :p
Same creative that destroyed DDP with some wife stalker story. And destroyed the invasion. These guys could create poop from their colons.
The problem with the Invasion was Vince's unwillingness to shell out the $ to get the top guys from WCW, who were under contract with Time Warner, and were content to sit home and collect the rest of their contracts.
Lawler to WCW. LOL he should have gone there to only then be employed by WWE anyways.
I wish they'd take him to wcw and make him a midget jobber that he is
Molly Holly and Lita were my favorite.
Are those imitations in the beginning or the real people?
Prichard's imitations.
I wish this is asked to JR as well at some point on his podcast. We have a better chance of getting a straight answer from him than Mr Company Man here
Omkar Kulkarni JR and Conrad did discuss on his podcast, and JR said he never got any complaints from anybody about The Kat. Vince McMahon told him he was getting a lot of complaints about The Kat, and he wanted JR to fire her. JR wanted everyone to sit down and discuss this, but Vince's mind was already made up.
Conrad "TMZ" Thompson
She didn't want to do something. Sounds like they wanted to put clothes on her and she wasn't having that.😁
Correction, They wanted her to wear underwear and you know The Kat's stance on underwear.
I saw Lawler and Kat walking to the car after her firing and his quitting in Tucson.
Three months later they got divorced for some reason Jerry goes after woman that are 20 years younger than him I lost count how many times he gotten divorced
Any relation to Dixie?... No?...
Something isn't adding up.
I heard she had a three-way with Stephanie and Randy. But that's just rumor and innuendo.
Stacy Carter really shoulda had the opportunity to pose for Playboy.
Since this was around the time HHH & Chyna were breaking up and Stephanie & Paul were hooking up, Stacy might have been trying to get back in Chynas good graces and I suspect Stacy tried to pass a message from Chyna to HHH and Steph caught wind of it, and she went to Vince screaming about Stacy interfering in her personal life, and Vinnie Mac wasn’t having any of it. Its only a theory, but it would explain the sudden dismissal!
She must have refused to crap on Vince’s face
There's rumours she was screwing around behind Jerry's back and management found out about it. I think they fired her knowing Jerry would quit but then would learn the truth for himself later and then want to return. Had they just told him the reason for it at the time he probably wouldn't have believed them, he was madly in love with her. Poor guy but glad the story ended happily in the end.
That's the dumbest thing ever. Rumors in your head, maybe.
Bruce will side with the company right or wrong
Yep! A complete slime ball 🤢🤮
The creative team who are non wrestlers fire a Diva for acting like a Diva in the middle of an angle that she is in and she is the wife of one of your best commentators? Weird and most likely a slimy Kevin Dunn decision.
Stacy “The Kat” Carter had a very different version of events when it comes to anyone claiming she was “difficult” creatively. Wish I could see The Kat and Bruce talk about it directly 1 on 1 🤔
The kat got nude on multiple PPV events and didn’t look like she was being forced to do something she didn’t want to. In light of that, I find it very difficult to believe that she was “kvetching” as Bruce puts it, about what they were asking her to do. The “office got mad because we went out to the playboy mansion without asking permission first” sounds like Vince McMahon level of “I own you!” petty
Mike Geiler I think Stephanie McMahon was probably behind it, because she was in charge of creative at the time.
Finally someone who doesn’t speak ill of Stacy Carter
Did Lawler really have a WCW contract or was he bluffing?
It was standard practice at the time for people in the middle of contract negotiations to throw in a "oh the competition is offering me X, but if you give me Y, I'll sign" Regardless of whether they were talking to the competition or not.
Yes.
i dont buy bruces story on this, its got all the buisness is buisness bullshit excuses attached to it they usually use when they dont want to real truth out there, hes trying to convince us that she was the only person on that roster calling time out on the creative team, and was the only one fired for it! nope sorry i know she wasnt exactly headlining but the vast majority of the roster at that time would have had a run in with creative especially as the company was soaring and everyone wanted a spot
corturia In 2001, Stone Cold Steve Austin could say no to stuff given to him by creative and get away with it, so could The Rock, HHH, The Undertaker and maybe Kurt Angle, and maybe Kane. The Kat was far down the totem pole to get away with pushing back on creative, I'm pretty sure she got into with Stephanie McMahon and that's what caused Vince to fire her.
Wasn't WcW already out of business at this time?
Tommy Dangerous almost 1 month later
I don't think wcw was hiring anymore. Jerry was probably lying and using it as leverage.
The Kat was so over at the time. I think popular enough to not fire her like that! I would say at this time she was one of the most popular divas. The topless flash, the bubble wrap bikini, managing Chyna etc. She was so over.
Didn't Care If The Kids Was Around
She Was Willing To Risk It For The Crowd
Life lesson: Never marry a little girl
Lol in every story I hear about the Kat, I realize two things; she had balls and she didn't give a fuck 😂😂
She was wild
She was one of the sexiest ones there. She had this Bettie Paige thing going on
This is such a shady story to this day. I've heard so many different stories about this I don't know who to believe. Really seems like no one can give a straight answer to why she was fired.
Chris Ross listen to Conrad read from Kings book about it. He only mentions it once and they don’t talk about it again, but listen for the mention of the playboy mansion visit. Vince long has a reputation of acting like he “owns” people while they work for him and I can see him getting very upset over a talent meeting with Hefner about posing for playboy without his prior knowledge
Sorry, Bruce's story does NOT hold up under the smallest bit of scrutiny.
To be honest the kat is the 1 diva i don't remember when i used to watch wrestling
Marlena was nice to bro.
Does Bruce always say "you and I" when "you and me" would be more correct because Vince insists that things are said a certain way?
There seems to be a bit of a disconnect. While it sounds like she was fired because Kat was a pain in the @$$ for the writers' room to work with. Okay, so has anyone expressed this to Kat, telling her that the writers are finding her to be a massive pain to work with and giving her a chance to change her behavior? Then Jerry talks to Vince and says essentially that, Should someone have told us something was going on before it escalated to this level? Vince agrees, yes someone should have told you about this before it got to this level. And? What's done is done and it's too much of a pain to undo it? Had Kat been getting talked to and she wasn't telling Jerry? Was she manipulating him and telling a different story?!
I mean I guess it could've gone down as has been explained here, but there seemed to have been some major leaps going on that took it from "Kat's being a pain for the writers to work with" to "fire Kat".
Question... who ACTUALLY pulled the trigger on her firing?
I get that Creative didn't like working with her anymore... but they can't fire someone in talent, can they?
I'm just surprised I guess that not McMahon,.Ross, Pritchard, or Lawler had more pull in the company than some writers who no one ever remembers anymore
Imo they did this because they wanted to take on Paul as a commentator for the ECW/WCW story and Tazz came apart of that too. It's too convenient for me.
Seems messed up to not be able to put her input on her character. Should have at least took her sat her down and talk to her about it first and then if it continues then let her go.
The wrestlers have ALWAYS been able to disagree with the writers and say I don't like this line. It only buries you if you name them and do it publicly... So something doesn't add up.
Lmao...that's ridiculous. Not even close to being true. 🤣
So Bruce “isn’t really clear on this” and “neither was Vince” okay people are lying about this… like this was supposed to be “the truth about this” and he legit says right after being asked to sum it up… “well I THINK it had more to do with…” just stop it Brucie boy
I truly can see Vince firing them for going behind his back to Playboy, I mean, they lost out. Imagine, she was bigger than ever with the Right To Nudity, and playboy, she would've exploded. It saddens me to think of the what ifs...
Kat was so hott I wanted to marry her when I was a kid
Viktor Hill jerry Lawler felt the exact same way.
U really want to marry that no talent slut?
No wonder why the girls hated her so much.
None of the girls except for Ivory, where’s your “proof” your “receipts”?
None!
@@jtarantula3390 I personally think Ivory was jealous lol 😂
@@empressink_ I think so too
That's some bulshit right there they didn't have the balls to tell her look this is what you do this is your skip do it, sure they would have, she probably thought that was her input her way of contributing to to how the match was going to go, it could very well be she didn't except the advance ,from the right person, course that speculation but the reason he gave is some b*******
JR the smiling assassin. The biggest snake in WWF but always managed to play out his innocence
I missed Kat, couldn't have cared less about Ivory