How to play with people who are better than you // Tips on how to level up fast
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- čas přidán 24. 07. 2024
- In this video Brian shares from personal experience how to play with people who are better than you, and how you can level up your playing fast
Table of contents:
00:00 - Welcome
00:18 - Question in this video: How to play with people at a much higher skill level than you
01:07 - Storytime - here is how I got thrown into the fire playing with people way better than me
03:32 - TIP 1: Practice (and then practice some more)
04:50 - TIP 2: Don't be nervous
08:29 - TIP 3 - Use this opportunity to your advantage
10:53 - Brian begs for subscribers (again)
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Brian! Thank you so much for your kind words! It means a lot to me! Funny thing is that I was the one that I though that you guys were the pros. Lol And you are pros!!! Also, depending of the song, “Less IS MORE”.
As I told you during my call this afternoon to you, I feel blessed and grateful for the opportunity and privilege that I had to worship with you! Thank you so much to Pastor Brian Fuller for trusting in me and giving me the opportunity to be part of the worship team as well Bradford Mitchell, Marecelo, Dave Bookhout, Justan and the others. I can’t wait to worship with you guys again with Jimmy Rodz., Josh Vega, Angelo, Buster, and the others!
CONTINUE DOING THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING TO HELP AND IMPROVE THE CZcams WORSHIP AND MUSICIANS COMMUNITY!
Once again, THANK YOU SO MUCH FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART! Remember, all you always in my prayers!!!! LOVE YOU ALL!!!
Hey Rei, God bless you!!
Rei, puedo ser tu amigo??? Awesome! I love you man!
Classy, humble guy obviously.
@@pastorgadielrios956 Gadiel Rios love you my brother and my pastor! You and Hector Rios (My master) helped me so much to grow as a musician but most important, worship to God! Thank You So Much!!!! Love you all my Rios Family!
@@calebsalvi7573 Amen my brother!!! God Bless You too and your family as well!
I was thrown onto our church praise team after only owning my bass for 2 weeks. 😂 our leader talked me into coming and I’m so glad she did. They taught me so much very quickly. And they were all so patient with me as I got better every week.
Awesome bro! Keep growing! I've been on my church's worship team a little over a year and when I got started I only played acoustic until we got a new worship pastor. The last few months I've been on electric and it's amazing how much more fun it is playing guitar with a team of such gifted people. I'm thinking if learning bass at some point as well. Personally I like versatility. Keep jamming keep growing and I hope you get the best experience out of this man. I've enjoyed my time on the team and I hope you continue to as well. God bless you brother! Have a great weekend
That sounds so cool! Glory to God!
Good for you Kevin. Way to do God work when I’m sure you had doubts.
Anytime I played with a another guitarist that was head and shoulders better than me they always complimented me. My preparation, my skill level, and/ or my tone. Thus went a long way in making me more comfortable sharing the stage with them. It also made me pay way more attention to anything that had to teach me.
So badly need this. Been playing guitar 3 months and I am doing rhyhm on a 12 string for men's worship team. Doing up to 5 songs a week. I'm learning them all from scratch. Never even heard them before. The team is amazingly supportive but this is hard... Thank you for all your videos. They really help!
Keep going!!!
Thank you brother for all you do! WT lessons and videos have helped me to grow fast in the last 4 months and learn how to play with people way above my level! I always appreciate how encouraging you are.
That piano really got to me and now I'm a subscriber of worship tutorials
Hello Brian.
Thank you. This was an important Message, and i am in that exact Situation right now. I play e-guitar for maybe 3 years now, and since then i made very much of tiny, small steps forward in my playing every week. First i quitted playing on PC and now i have my guitar at my Desk in our living room. No mans cave or something, i just play and practice in the middle of my loving and very supporting family. They get up at 0700 every sunday morning without any questions or complaints. I LOVE MY WIFE AND DAUGHTER (12) FOR THIS!!! I try to get every song in my church under my Fingers and you guys and Bro's became an important Part of my journey... Be blessed beyond all understanding! THANK YOU!
Thank you for the tips man! I’m preparing myself to play with a team that’s much better than where I am and your tips have encouraged me to take that final step 💪🏽
WOW, "...preparing yourself to the level that you can achieve" is a HUGE and excellent point. As hard as I work on my parts, I often can't do what others can on their instruments. I guess my mindset needs to be "I have to do my best and be okay with what that is". Thank you!
This is REALLY REALLY good stuff. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks so much for the tips Brian, I’m sure it will help me a lot!
One of the best videos you guys have made. Love this.
Thanks, Brian! those words are encouraging! A great reminder to put the time in before Sunday morn. In the church I attend, we always get the song list two to three days before Sunday. But there are some Sunday mornings, and I get more nervous than others. lol, Love what you do and all that your team does!
Hey Brian . Your advice is spot on as I play with highly skilled musicians at our Fellowship Church. They all are very supportive of me and appreciate how hard I work to be prepared for Sunday. I have to say without you and Bradford at Worship Tutorials I would not be anywhere as far along as I am . Your song Patches and demos are so important to my preparation. I thank God for you and Bradford and for what you have built at Worship Tutorials threw your hard work. I am sure there are countless others who feel the same. Thank you from my heart for all that you both do for all of us all the time. Please keep cranking out the songs and videos.Worship Tutorials has truly made a difference in the Worship Community. The Blessings that God has Blessed you and Bradford with Blesses us all . I am subscribed and my Helix is full of your work. Thank You Very Much
Thank you for posting this so people will know how to play with me. Lol jk 🤣
Solid advice. Thankfully, I generally play with people who play better than I do, so I have plenty of opportunity to learn. Plus, I was so moved by your call to subscription that I cancelled just so I could resubscribe. You touched my heart, man. Touched my heart.
Wow this video is what I need as I am below all our other musos at Church so this is great advice.
Thanks Brian.
Great advice about being able to play youtube at slower speeds and I love your tutorials.
Hi from Australia.
Thank you for this!!
Playing with “better” musicians is the best thing you can do for yourself to improve. I agree that, especially in a worship music environment, those more experienced musicians are going to be extremely encouraging, which will help you to relax. You will learn from the other musicians. You will learn from making mistakes. And you will be motivated to BE one of those top-shelf musicians.
Go for it!
I love the fact that Rei was so encouraging. Speaking blessings into another’s life as one who is further along is Christlike.
Watching you for the last few years move from acoustic to lead guitar has really encouraged me to challenge myself as well!!
I try to learn the lead part of at least one of the songs each time I play (while still on acoustic)
I think the simple answer is, do it as much as you can! Learned more in 3 months from an old jazz teacher than i did in the previous 10+ years!
The music kicking in on the subscription part made me smile. Well played gents.
So much wisdom here Bryan, this topic is so relevant, I’m gonna share it with our student band
Great, inspiring video!
I've been playing in worship bands on and off since 1985. I love playing with musicians who are better than me - which is most of them! It's all about learning, practicing and remembering what we are there to do. 'Nerves' usually mean lack of preparation. Be humble, have fun. It's a great priviledge.
Thanks for that perfect B roll!! Niceeeeeeeeeeeee
Great advise, Brian. Everyone has to start somewhere.
Just had this conversation with a new keys player. From the leadership standpoint, I try to be super supportive and encouraging - sending walkthrough videos, rig rundowns, and offering time for her to come in and just get used to everything around them. She's definitely very beginner, but covered everything really well. I was able to support instrumentally with lead lines that would normally be hers, but I jumped in on guitar so she could focus on the foundation. She did great, and I was so happy the process worked. Awesome breakdown, Brian. You're the man, dont let the crazy commenters get to you 😂😂
I just recently got into my praise team as an acoustic guitar player and I was so worried about how it was going to turn out. I didn’t even really know how keys work to he honest. But throughout the weeks, I have learned the four songs I need to know, I practiced, I prepared myself, and this past weekend, we had no drummer so I was the rhythm and boy was I nervous but it all worked out in the end thanks to God. I love you guys covers and tutorials. Keep on making them, and God bless you all.
Brian, I was in the same situation. I was gracefully encouraged to play electric guitar in our churches praise and worship team. My music minister at that time is one of the most talented multi-instrumentalist I have known. Everyone else was top shelf and was shiny new to the whole thing. I had to practide hours on end just to be able to offer something to the overall worship service. It is funny that "you" shared this story because it was "you" and Bradford I watched on CZcams over and over again to learn my parts. I consider myself a fill player rather than a lead. Once I accepted that role the stress decreased and the joy increased.
Great advice, thanks!
Appreciate y’all videos
Fantastic tip brother, watching at 1/2 speed to get it down. Great suggestions. Great encouragement. Great heart to help. Great video overall.
Thanks for the lesson! Story of my life!
Ha! I've got this episode up while I'm at work. I paused it to go on the floor and was humming "Reckless Love" to myself, as we just played it this past weekend. I come back and the next thing you do is "play" the notes from that song. Crazy.
“Prepare yourself for the level of excellence that you can achieve, not the level of excellence someone else can achieve”
Write 👏🏼 That 👏🏼 Down👏🏼
After moving out of my parents church and choosing my current church I grew so much in 2 years on musical and teambuilding level, between people who are indeed bether than me. Thanks for the video!
fantastic video and so true.
Great lesson and hilarious ending! I have used and enjoyed your videos the last 4 or 5 years as I took the plunge and stepped into a worship team never having played guitar with or in front of others before. The leader was very gracious and the team of pros were all very supportive. I have also lead many times and have been serving in a supportive role with our new worship leader. I also want to branch out to either electric or bass or even keys. I have to work on passing on the same encouragement to others.
I remember asking this! God bless you! :D
Love this insight thanks Worship Tutorials
Great subject. My tip is be in time and make sure you do the simple stuff cleanly and give them room to shine. One day, it'll be you. Cater to them
Thank you so much for this video! I have played on a team for 6 years now where half the people on the stage on any given Sunday can play guitar way better than I can. But they keep asking me to play, so for Him I keep working hard at it and doing my best. Thanks for saying that really good musicians don’t look down on those of us who aren’t on that level. I try to believe that and keep leaning in. Agree 100% that playing with people better than you will make you a much better player.
Availability is as important as ability. Continue to practice up, show up, and worship up!
I've felt this way when I know I am playing with excellent players. There has been times where my mind burned out because of thinking too much. I'm so glad that I got to play with them because I got so much better. Also, as a Music Director/Lead Guitarist, I just don't know how the team would come in without any sort of understanding to the selected songs especially when it's prepared weeks or months ahead. Thank you WT.
Great advice and that beautiful outro music made me want to subscribe twice
We’ve got several pro-level players on our team, like actually touring with CCM artists and former Elevation musicians and vocalists. I was really nervous the first time I played with a particular vocalist because I’ve seen her in music videos and stuff. And then she forgot the words to start her song, and they were even on the confidence monitor. Moral of the story, these guys and gals are human and make mistakes too. It has definitely inspired me to put forth my best, not to impress them, but to fulfill my role in the team as best I can and to bring honor to God through my effort.
Thanks for the videos. Crazy I went to Hope and I moved and now I am thrust into lead guitar.
Great topic
I'm new to electronic guitar 🎸. This video has been very encouraging
Great video Brian... I was one of those electric like acoustic players when I first joined the Worship band. Our
worship leader kept challenging me with learning certain electric guitar parts/ riffs. In NO MEANS am I a lead player. He said, you don't have to be. Then he told me about "Worship Tutorials". Still not a lead player. But I can do so much more now than 5 years ago when I first came to Our Church. You all have help shape me in to being a much better musician. ( not bad for someone turning 69 yrs old in Sept. LOL)
It's the piano at the end for me. Subbed!
Be confident, and jump in!
Solid Advice Brian. I've been on P&W teams for over 20 years, I was that guy when I started (played electric like acoustic) Our worship leader (His name was Brian also) had exactly the encouraging and positive attitude you speak of, it helped me tremendously and keep me wanting to play better and better. When he eventually moved and was replaced by other leaders, I still keep his positive encouraging attitude in my mind.
Bro, I originally commented before I finished the vid…I came back to say that THIS IS GREAT CONTENT!
@SirAngelo Hall!!! My man! My bassman!!! As Brian said, it was so great play and worship with you my bro!!!! LOVE YOU!!!
BTW, I subscribed to your channel!!!
Man, I needed this. I just got recruited to the church band as an electric guitarist. I had to play anything is possible lead part and run to the father. I was supposed to learn both lead and rhythm for both songs but I simply couldn’t do it in 2 weeks. I will be playing with the church live in about a both. Please Pray for me everyone! This is something I love but it is intimidating. During the audition I had to play with in ear monitors for the first time and it was an experience.
Gold!
Words❤️ the biggest thing is practice make you best but if you in presence of God it will be perfect ❤️🙏👌. Keep practice and leaders give chance to everyone 😊
All the time❤
Thank you Brian, I think it was you that did a tutorial on the song," Great I am". To your point I couldn't do everything that you did in that video but I did what I could do and even that was a great improvement.
I interned at a church where the Worship Pastor would intentionally partner a strong musician with a weak one. So strong drummer partnered with weak percussionist, strong lead guitar partnered with weaker rhythm or acoustic, same with keys and pads, and even vocalists. Then he empowered the stronger musicians to teach the weaker ones during rehearsals, and eventually to start passing leads and solos to the weaker musicians. That was a life changing experience for me.
for me, i spent a lot of time at the pub jam nights. you are in the deep end with people playing stuff off the cuff every time. you learn to relax and use your ear. many guys get anxious unless they have everything going smoothly for them, good foldback mix, time to set up and break down gear, etc. i usually get the set list the night before a church service. relax, go over the songs and do the gig relying on your ear and relax. i also play in cover bands, that's different as you get time to learn the songs before playing live.
I’ve heard a lot of rumors of sacrilege on this channel…thus far everything checks out. Bring me out to jam though…gosh, I miss y’all
@SirAngelo Hall!!! My man! My bassman!!! As Brian said, it was so great play and worship with you my bro!!!! LOVE YOU!!!
BTW, I subscribed to your channel!!!
I am subscribed but do not watch often. After watchin this video, Im going to change that. Thanks for the video it was great. I need to prepare. God Bless
Thank you for your insight. I felt like you where talking to me.
That good content do more please
This, this is where I live!
Oh! I forgot to mention Nick! Awesome guitar play! I played with him couple times at NewHope main campus! Brian, say hi to nick! Love you Nick!!!!
I had no idea y’all were in my old neck of the woods. #RepThe919
I remember the first time I shared a stage with a big name songwriter in the worship music world. I was absolutely panic nervous at the start of run-through, but he was so encouraging that my nerves calmed down. I realized it was absolutely no different than any weekend service.
I know Rei for over 30 years and this guy is my brother, his talent, commitment, and performance ethic is what I can call a professional musician with a humble heart, I’m so glad to call Rei my brother! Let’s continue making great music for many, many years to come… 👊🏼💥
@Jimmy Rod! THANK YOU SO MUCH MY BROTHER FOR THOSE KIND WORDS!!! MEANS A LOT TO ME! OVER 30 YEARS OF FRIENDSHIP WITH YOU AND YOUR BROTHER DANNY ROD!!! I HAVE NO WORDS TO DESCRIBE YOU!!! YOUR HUMBLENESS, FRIENDSHIP, COMMITMENT, PROFESSIONALISM AS A DRUMMER AND MOSTLY THE CONNECTION THAT WE HAVE ON STAGE WHEN WE ISED TO PKAY AT NEWHOPE WITH FULLER, BRIAN AND BRADFORD!!!! Simply AMAZING!!!
I was 15 and had just started playing bass guitar 1 month before my pastor asked me to go on with a very experienced piano / keys player, singer, drummer and guitarist. I was terrified. I remember going back to pray with the worship team before service and being like "God please don't let play at my normal level." The rest of the band was totally chill and very nice about showing me the ropes and it all ended up being fine but that was a very stressful year for me as a musician. I used chord sheets to help me compose my bass lines and got to play test them during service. Many mistakes were made but I learned a lot. I actually do miss playing with the team but your videos help me live vicariously.
Anyway thanks for the great video and trip down memory lane!
Sometimes they’re not that much better .. but insecurity may cause that impression!! Let’s put our focus in the one who has called us to fulfill our purpose!! He always has greater things to us !!
My wife and I are getting ready to move to Nashville this year and it is VERY intimidating as someone who is not professional musician. Praying for many opportunities to get to play with musicians waaaay better than myself and to find the right mentors. Thanks for the encouragement!
Welcome, or soon to be welcome to Nashville! Been here almost 9 years. You will find your group, don’t worry :)
I'm not from a large church by any means but I'll be playing strictly lead for the first time in Sunday. My friend and worship leader gave great advice of just have fun with it. It doesn't have to be technically proficient or virtuosic but you're there to worship and to facilitate worship, so keeping it simple is ok! This helped me so much in preparation because I was too busy thinking about all the great guitar players I hear and worried about trying to emulate them. My style is my style and that's ok as long as you don't lose sight of the goal of facilitating worship
HOW DID IT GO!?!?
@@DIGITAL7Media we had the occasional hiccups but really it wasn't too bad. The congregation enjoyed it so that's good. Thanks for asking
Good stuff, dude!
@Bradford Mitchell!!! MY PASTOR! I love you so much! Thank you so much for the opportunity to worship and play with you! LOVE YOU!
Playing with people who are better than me forced me to practice more. I also ask questions and try to soak up as much info and tips as they're willing to give.
Watching bass covers at 0.5x speed is how I survive XD
I've just started playing at church and we are doing a special service combining several of our campuses. I don't know half the musicians but I am starting to wonder if I'm going to be able to do it. This video was a great help and encouragement. I'm always prepared and I'll keep practicing. Let's go!
Thanks Bryan for talking about this topic that Is very important to talk about. Despite there are excelent musicians that also are excelent People, sadly this Is just one side of the coin. There are much, included myself, that has lived bad experiences with talented People that also are prepotent, indifferent or cynical with other musicians. I was a intermediate guitar player in a church band with skilled musicians . The criticized my level of playing and making an ambience full of tension, even with bullying phrases. I had to left that band and eventually left that church. That was a sad episode of my life. A time Later I found a church and a band whith a ambience of fraternity and respect where I could grow as a musician. I hope this counts. Forgive my bad english. Greetings.
What helped me was to practice to a metronome and to focus on timing above all else! At the end of the day what makes a player a pro is the ability to play in excellent time as well as the ability to play the parts in several different spots on the neck so you can adjust your parts to what other people are playing. Having the right feel and knowing how to play around others comes with experience but rhythm and fundamentals can be learned right away
Great advice. Hey I was wondering if you could do a tutorial on the new song by cityalight this is the day. We really want to play it in our church but I'm not good enough yet to figure out how to play over chords. Preferably in capo 1. Man that would be much appreciated
Sweet🎉
Back when I still was a believer and heavily involved in music ministry I would stress constantly about my playing. It took me many years to realize most people don’t even notice your playing at all (it’s gonna be awesome no matter what you do)
Hi there. I thrown in the deep myself once. On of the worship leaders was a guitar player. He called me on a Saturday afternoon while I was at my guitar lesson.. to tell me that I'm up to play at the evening service. I freaked out. But went for it. I had my first guitar a classic nylon strings.. lol. that was the past lol. Now I'm a member of the worship team. But I consider myself an intermediate player. I'm more of a smooth and soft player at the church. We have different lead guitarists, but we don't play together most of the time. We are split in different teams to play different services depend when you are scheduled. But Like you said Brian playing with others that are more skilled than you not only improve you, but it gives you the push to be yourself and to feel more comfortable.
and yes practice is essential. e.g If I don't have the time to practice it at home, I listen at least multiple times at the song when I'm at the office.
thanks for the video. Blessings and stay safe...
Dios te bendiga desde España Barcelona
Man, I think everyone is good and I try to learn something from everyone I play with.
Thank you so much for this! I have been wanting to audition for my church's worship ministry but have always felt inadequate and not ready for what God has called me for. Really believe to just offer my two daenerys coins and God will do the rest :)
Ha Ha been there before as a guitarist in a church worship team. I would just strum some chords and when I got lost in the music I'd just raise my hands in worship to hide my inadequacies.
Practice all you can reasonably, if you need help learning ask, usually playing with higher level musicians means you have a treasure chest of knowledge in front of you. They will always respect a musician who cares and practices.
This was a great talk on this subject. I would say I am an intermediate player, I learn via CZcams, worshiponline tabs. But I practice my tail off, had youtube and wo tabs not been available, I would be playing chords only 😬 I really need to learn guitar theory and how to improvise parts in a particular key.
Biggest tip I would add to this is that it's ok if what you play isn't exactly like the recording. If the part is too fast/complex, it's likely you can simplify the part in a way that the congregation won't know the difference. This decreases the chance of making a mistake because you were stretching yourself beyond your current skill level
exactly. In my case I'm the only lead guitarist that have to play a certain song, while the recording has more than one guitar. I choose to play the lead guitar and if there is space I'll play the other guitar parts like the filling parts or the semi- rhythm ones.
Good music at the end
This is similar to my story. I tried out for guitar at my church and the worship pastor at the time said, "Not bad, not bad. But do you play an lead stuff?" I said no and he said that they really needed a lead player. So I was thrust into lead guitar. I met the challenge and love it. Still learning all the time. I'm grateful for his trust and faith in my ability to learn and get better.
This was super helpful. Long story short, after 20 years of playing acoustic/electric rhythm guitar for worship I’ve been asked to play lead guitar. I consider myself an intermediate lead player at best. I’ve been practicing but don’t yet know which songs will be played for my week. My week is the end of the month and they don’t release the sets until two weeks Pryor so that makes me a little nervous. Im not a shredder but more of a texture guy (edge-U2). I’ve been practicing songs from previous weeks hoping that one or more songs will be played again. Right now im just trying to perfect my technique and studying the lead worshipper so I understand how he flows. Anything else I should be doing.
"Don't play your electric like an acoustic"
*Emotional damage*
Ha! But seriously - don't, haha
Yep
I only knew the G key chords when I started on Wednesday nights only. After a couple months, Sundays, now worship director, 😆.
I'm in this very situation. Intermediate guitar player playing with much better musicians. I was quickly thrown into a lead player role and from week-to-week, I get better. I put in a few hourse each week to make sure I know what I am going to play when we go to rehearse and go live. It's challenging, but quite rewarding and I know this is an area I can serve God and have fun too. Thanks for the video!
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I started as one of the drummers.
But my main influences were U2 and manic street preachers.
I've taken those influences onto guitar.
I use a lot of delays and shimmers, an elbow is a secret weapon
Hello I wanted to ask what is the best effects pedal you can use I you can't afford a high end pedal like the Helix pedals
In our team, our leader has a Master's in music, plays multiple instruments well and can play almost anything by ear and on the fly without music in front of him. He often forgets that the rest of us don't have those skills, and need time to assimilate information and practice before rehearsal and then a service. We do our best, but it is frustrating to deal with.
We have never failed to put it together though, which also made me realise that sometimes you can cope with things you didn't know or hadn't practiced.