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What the band hears during worship with an MD (Music Director) // Battle Belongs IEM Mix
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- čas přidán 14. 08. 2024
- In this video you're hearing Brian's in-ear monitor mix while Bradford is in the role of Music Director (Brad is also playing bass).
You'll hear a couple voices throughout the video - the first is Bradford as he leads the band, and the 'Verse 2 3 4' voice is from our multitrack - the cues.
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00:00 - Video setup and explanation
00:59 - Song starts (with the IEM/MD mix)
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Regarding the MANY comments saying "What about the Holy Spirit"...
This video actually demonstrates us being led by the Holy Spirit. In the beginning, Caleb talks about the song, and what he said was 100% inspired by God/Holy Spirit. The band was able to give him space to lead in that moment, and then we played the song.
Regarding the song itself, I’ve found that most churches play the songs in the arrangement that they were recorded. We have space to repeat things at the end or linger in a moment if we’d like, but the click track and MD mic just let us all stay on the same page. And if we do decide to repeat something, it allows us to effectively communicate that to everyone in the band.
To suggest that planning (and then executing that plan) is somehow squelching the Holy Spirit is foolish, in my opinion. The Spirit lead in our planning just as much as the Spirit leads in the moment. We believe that effective worship leadership calls upon the Holy Spirit's guidance both in the planning stages and in the execution.
The Bible does say play SKILLFULLY, so organization is a divine thing that keeps the audience from getting distracted due to technical difficulties. People that criticize the structural tools have probably never been part of an advanced production.
What I wouldn't give to have this kind of setup for the actors and band, when I play musicals with the local theater companies in my city.
Anyways awesome work!
My church over the last few years has slowly grown from wedges and vocal cues to clicks and MD’s.
As a musician, I initially found the click very helpful but the guide restrictive.
Now as a growing and learning leader and MD, and someone who is creating the Ableton projects and structuring the service, I see how it’s about creating an opportunity and environment of worship for the congregation, and how the only limitation on spontaneous worship and opportunities in this structure is now my ability to interact with the project and create that space as well.
It has been incredibly helpful in so many ways
Love it! When people tell me tracks and planning a service is not allowing the Holy Spirit to move I ask them to give me an explanation how that is biblical. When they have no answer to me I give it to them straight and say it’s an excuse to be lazy and unprepared. I say that with confidence because that was me 😬. God is a God of order. it literally says in the first chapter of the Bible. 😆
I think what concerns many is not planning but the seeming rigidity of the execution. I’ve never done it and doubt many of the detractors have either so it’s total speculation! Obviously it works for many. If people are worshiping for real then more power.
I think comments like that are often spoken out of fear, its like switching from using wedges to using IEMs, I know some who wont but in truth it actually helps. I get it can be scary or feel weird but it truly helps and really adds to what you can do.
In our band, we just look at each other, and we know what's up.
Same, let the spirit lead🔥🙌
Same ✋
that's called being a musician
hahahaha sameee
Yeah these in ear mixes feel like too much to me. I get the desire for tightness but this feels restricting and unnatural
"give me an F....yyyeeaahhhhh stay there."
Underrated comment.
@@bobbycraig8083 I watched the video again just to hear Bradford say "give me an F....yeahhhhhh stay there." lol
Hhahahaha
F
He meant play an F major chord...
I’m just over here like what this dude is saying about God fighting our battles is fire 😭🔥
Song is Battles Belong by Phil Wickham
Truly
nah fr i forgot i was watching to learn to be a better MD, over listening to the worship leader introducing the song like dang bros giving a mini sermon
It's weird, as a drummer I've played at churches like this with in-ears and this kind of organisation.
But I've also played at churches where all you have to rely on is a speaker/monitor and hand signals or a look lol.
While I love the organised feel and I feel more content with my performance. I prefer the latter, with the hand signals haha. It just feels more natural.
It also keeps you on your toes for any surprises, like when the Pastor is in the spirit and sings a song non of the musicians have heard of before 😂. We've all been there lol.
All in all, ministering for God is always good.
Totally agree
yea i agree 100%
I have had some really bad experiences with pastor wanting me to follow up with a song unknown to me haha
Yes, I agree as well! I think the click track is a sort of a crutch/ or excuse for not really knowing the tune. It’s difficult for me to immerse myself into the worship with a voice in my ear telling me where to go. Our team uses it, but I go without it and be sure I’m in time with the drummer. I play bass. On the other hand, I can see the benefit of adding orchestration to a small ensemble with the aid of track. Anyway, ✌🏾 Brother!
In our church, it's also hand signals. I'm not a musician and once I learned what their hand signals mean, it's fun looking at them when they get so into it that they almost missed a signal haha I stopped paying attention to it later on though because it's distracting me from worship lol
As a fellow guitarist, this mix is perfect and should be sent straight to front of house.
As a drummer I say bring down a touch and mean JUST A TOUCH not off...and drums up a touch, kick and snare more than anything. Singers can go away though lol, they take too much of the guitar space anyways
As a guy who plays guitar and sings in the front... this wasn't balanced at all 😂
#LeaveFoHAlone 😂😂
This has to be Brian’s mix haha bc you can’t hear the acoustic at all haha
🤣🤣🤣
As a bassist and drummer, to each their own lol
In our church, we often use hand signals.
But most of the time, we just let holy spirit take over.
YES!!
Hand signal still the lethal weapon for our team. Just look careful to the MD. 😅
Exactly.
yeah i can relate with that since my church use the very same method.
but on the serious note, systematical method like this is good for church that rent building and they want to finish on time and continue to prepare for the next service.
and also being led by holy spirit means you still have control of your body,
How was this NOT led by the Holy Spirit ??
I had no idea this is how a bigger church worship operates.... Ours is a smaller congregation. I usually play the piano and sometimes I play the Cajon. Since its a small band, we can communicate with our eyes LOL. I am self taught, and I want to be a good pianist one day. I play at a very basic level currently. Hopefully with God's blessings, I will make this year a much more productive year, and learn a lot more about music and piano.
Yeah bro, keep it up. I'm sure that you'll become a better pianist if you keep practicing diligently. I've been playing the piano for 11 years now, and I'm also mostly self taught lol. But then our band needed a guitar around 5 years ago so I got to learn within a month (just imagine the first time I played the guitar in a service, spoiler: I forgot most of the chords). However I managed to improve although I still need to learn more, so be constant and you'll see great improvements.
As long as you do it for God's glory
Lots of the smaller churches are going to this also. It eliminates a music pastor coming in w/a caffeine or sugar high and rushing the music.
Praise the LORD for your Heart! Playing the cajon to for our small church 😇😁 May GOD bless your Soul!
Not all of them do. At my last one I was on the worship team for services upwards of 2,000 people.
We used hand signals and a metronome... and we knew our music by heart as a band.
the amount of focus and musicianship to follow the track and also be aware of everything going on is impressive
It actually gets easier overtime to the point where you don’t even hear it anymore even though it is the loudest in the mix.
Not gonna lie that metronome would drive me crazy lol (Before anybody goes off on my comment I understand the importance of it)
Definitely feel like there's a time and a place for it. We use click tracks at my church. It's was easier on the ears lol
@@dariuscottingham9034 Yeah those are much easier.. but that cow bell on here is over powering.. So between that and the MD talking I give them props for playing as well as they do..
The problem with their click is they count in quavers instead of crotchets, that would drive me crazy also. Quarter notes is where I put the click.
I mix monitors all the time and you get so used to it, that when I mix FOH or broadcast I miss it and want to add it in 😂😂
@@dariuscottingham9034 that's what drummers are for
Hi all, I found Jesus one day by guesting at a rather large church one Sunday. As a musician it was the fantastic music from the band, the production and the level of musicianship that hooked me at first. I hadn’t been in a church since I was a kid but I kept going back to see the music. I just wanted to say that sometimes God works in completely obvious ways. Thank you Jesus.
This was so interesting to see what goes on behind the scenes. Really appreciate all the hard work that all worship teams put in.
And you can clearly see that they are still lead by the Holy spirit and feeling God's presence even though there is an MD talking them through the song! (For everyone commenting you don't understand how they still feel the Lord's presence while worshipping)
Thank you for sharing. May God bless you all.
having IEM MD and click doesnt mean that you can't experience the same presence, that doesn't mean that you're not being led by Spirit. Praise and Worship team is the one who lead the whole Praise and Worship, so it would be great that everything is also as good as possible, as we're giving Him the best one we got :)
Moreover, it humbles the workers, so we gonna realize that we are not the perfect ones, we need something and someone to lead us, keep us on track. In the end of the day, we realize it's all done not because of our strength, but because of The Creator Himself. Without MD that keep us on track, we would have played it off track. The only perfect being is The Creator Himself, He's the one that doesn't need any MD, because He's the Director of all directors Himself. 🙌🏻
@@jstandhh I disagree friend. The click tracks create a barrier of "exactness" for newer musicians, and it's distracting from the actual worship in your ear. It certainly helps them as a tool, but you better believe they're not worshipping, they are laser focused on IE and click cues.
Sure, experienced musicians can handle live direction, loud ticking, fake voice cues and stay in the moment.... But can they? I've been a leader for 15 years. Sure, tech can be helpful for some churches, but to say a manmade object keeps us "on track" and humble? Like God wouldn't love a bunch of worshippers bellowing "amazing grace" with slightly out of tune guitar.... Sounds like pride and a need to have a perfect " performance" to me.
@@mmmmdddd2267 Click tracks can also worship God, worshipping is not only from singing and playing music, but from how much your heart want to give the best quality for Him. He understands us. And the one who needs to worship in this case is audience, we as servers in the stage should provide them the best service.
It's a sacrifice we should hear loud CLICK noise, but audience would be served the best with it. If we keep off track, audience could be confused and distracting them from worshipping (been experiencing that as one of the audience of some church. Bad experience)
It's a sacrifice my friend, a sacrifice. Thats our worship and gift to The Creator as the servers of stage in church.
Been serving 10+ years as one of instrument player on some local church.
We just used CLICK several months now, and the audience says it's BETTER and NEAT compared to before using click.
Thats our sacrifice, thats our sacrifice, so audience can be served with the best quality we can provide, and they can worshipping and praising God freely and happily without being distracted of instrumental that being off track/tempo.
WOWW! It is my first time to hear what musicians can here on an earpiece wow.. wow... soo amazinggg
The talkback is also great for dealing with unexpected songs from the pastor or for calling out spur-of-the-moment chord progressions when the Spirit is leading the worship a certain way. This way the whole band knows what to do next.
Real talk, the pastor just needs to pastor and not try to lead worship also. If he wants he can get up there and sing then do whatever he wants. If not, you have a worship leader and you trust them to lead worship.
And, why can't you nod or holler across the stage? What, the congregation don't know you? You have to be some sort of polite perfection when the Holy Spirit speaks? It's not ok to worship God as humans, fluid in the moment, we have to structure it and pipe it directly into our ear canals?
And when you do this, you have to realize that most organic communication and Holy Spirit leading between active live band members goes away... They're all expecting input, so nobody has a real feel or ownership over any moment.
You're such a good MD bro, I been one for a year or so in South Africa for our Hillsong campuses in Cape Town. I'm only 19 so it's a bit weird telling older, more experienced musicians what to do and where to go but I'm thankful for the position. Been growing a lot as a musician and a servant of God. This video was really insightful.
Glad to hear that! Thanks :)
Eyy, keep on keeping on man, maybe I'll mix your mons if you ever come to London 👌🏼 or if I ever go over to SA with HS I'll be sure to visit!
Wow what musicianship and sensitivity to what’s going on! 😲 I don’t know how he can speak so freely with the metronome in his ear in the beginning 😆
What an interesting set of tools to facilitate worship!
Yeah! 😆 it's really amazing, isn't it?
that 'oops' at 6:00 was actually pretty cool. it became a cool little dissonance with that octave B on the guitar resolving to the octave C.
nice recovery hehe
For those who think the Holy Spirit can't move because they're using tracks and an MD, you may want to check yourself and wonder if your view of God is too small.
Also, it doesn't have to be excellence or worship. It can be both.
👌👌 exactly. Worship and quality of music are not mutually exclusive
The question is whether it’s Leading Worship or Performing. There are many many Worship Leaders that don’t lead, but rather perform on Sunday mornings. A worship teams job is to play and sing in a predictable way so that people can sing along or meditate on the Lord and be one in spirit. When worship teams change arrangements, go off in ad-libs or solo it distracts from the heart of worship and focus is taken away from God and placed on the performance.
You are correct that it can be excellence and worship at the same time. But it should never be a performance during worship
The presentation of the song can always contain the Holy Spirit even secular songs no doubt! This worship teams preparation to play is the same as any other worship teams… learn and arrange the song. The only difference is the actual presentation in where one type of worship band hears the spirit filled song along with the congregation the other is listening to someone talking and a horrible clicking sound to keep everyone on time. But maybe if the musicians require this than sweet. I couldn’t play in this band though personally because hearing and singing along with the congregation while I’m playing which is big tie of community that I do not want to miss out on. I’m more concerned about the worship teams ability to worship in what is a huge part of community and the church which is corporate praise. The congregations experience is worship with you, the band. but as member of this team I’m not sure you could experience this important part of life while this talking and clicking is happening at least I don’t think I could
The Holy Spirit can most certainly move! God has no limits!
Agree. That’s crazy to think Holy Spirit says oh hey! They’re using that annoying clicker thing. 😁 People are worshipping God. That’s the point and I know bands use this and Holy Spirit shows up beautifully. If it’s good enough for Him? It’s good.
Woah!! Never knew this is what happens behind the scenes! 😮 I kinda wondered how the whole band knew what to play and when to play at some points of the worship ...even being so apart from each other...
So this technique helps to tackle the sudden changes make with music in the middle of the song!
Thanks a lot for sharing this! 😊 God bless you and your church!❤
This is a GREAT video for MDs & WLs who want to move forward and grow. I would love for my team to hear this to get a glimpse of our next step. I've read thru many of the comments and some almost sound judgmental, but we have to remember where they are currently. It's like going through the transition of the Praise & Worship era all over again. With the, "I don't like it" and "I prefer the fly by the seat of my pants worship". It's all good and I get it. I am 50 yrs old and very much accustomed to 'organized' worship with tracks and spontaneous worship with no clicks or tracks as well. You simply conform to your surroundings and what is able to be done. God is STILL God and He will move where He wants, when He wants. As long as we are in tune with His Spirit, that's all that matters. As the song says, NOTHING ELSE. LoL.
Thanks Matt! People just make assumptions as they wish. What they don’t know is this was only the second time playing that song that day and I was merely providing guidance so we can play the song well. But that’s not as fun of a story so instead we get told that we are an abomination to God and are going to hell 🤷🏻♂️😂
I'm glad you guys OOPS and LOL just like the rest of us.
Ha thanks - my playing gets a bit sloppy in this.
Even vocalists have a derp moment occasionally. At least I do. I'll go into auto pilot mode while I'm queueing for a change my in ear monitor. Then I'll occasionally find myself going oh crap where are we.
I'm a guitarist in our local church so this is what professional musician be like
Dun think the professional musicians to be managed to this micro level........
Yep, this is how it will be :)
Nah, too contrived and leaves a musician uninspired.
Feels very scripted.
No its nothing like this. Professional musicians learn the songs and don't need to be directed. We spend time as a band and actually become a tight unit. Sometimes not even click
Just play the click through front of house so everyone knows whats up.
We’ve done that before! (on accident)
Ha this made me chuckle
“So everyone knows what’s up” lmao
Tightens that sloppy congregation clap right up!
So they can clap on time.
@@RinaldoJonathan hahah true
Very familiar to me because I’m also part of a worship team as a bassist but it’s really nice to hear. Also great for those that don’t know what it’s like behind the scenes and how everything comes together so perfectly
That transition to “raise a hallelujah” is just “chefs kiss”
This is why I never got into playing worship music. Songs can go on forever and ever. 7 lines, eleven times.. but to each his or her own. But they are are great at their craft! Bravo!
I mean, it's pretty terrible congregation-side too tho. By about the 10th time of the 2nd line it's kinda hard to stay in worship to me, at least on stage you've got something to do other than feel guilty about that ;) Some worship teams can pull it off which is why I think this became so prolific in the last 10-15 years particularly (e.g. personally I think hillsong is fantastic at this, rarely overdoing it, rarely missing chances to drive things home). But most... it just feels really forced and distracting to me :\
This would be perfect because I have that "where are we again?" thought go through my head multiple times a service, lol.
Great work guys! Using the tools and training of our times to serve the Lord and His people. Press on!! Salute! Carl & Leann.
Sounds pretty close to what I'm used to in my in ears too. Incidentally, we just did this song Sunday as well.
I've played guitar in a worship group for more than 10 years, but we recently got a new sound system. The drums are mic'd up, bass, guitar and piano are all finally in front of house. We got in-ears to hear whatever we need. I started using pedals which was much needed. The overall sound changed dramatically for better.
For those new songs with lots of chord changes and with not enough time to practice, the direction is a life saver.
I don't think I'd be able to get into it like this. I would want to hear what everyone else is hearing.
You get used to it, but I guess it’s different for everyone
This mix doesn’t account for what you still feel/hear from the stage and the room :)
If any of our MDs talked this much I’d rip my in-ears out.
You’d love it.
I’m a drummer for my church, I love it. It helps staying on time and what comes next-it’s never messed me up or affected me personally!
@@kaleym1040
How about having weekly rehearsals and actually learning the song as a band?
@@OnBendedKneeMusic yes that would be nice but I’m assuming other churches do this aswell, our YTH starts at 630 so all the musicians come in at 5 to practice, it’s plenty enough time considering all the musicians are expected to learn their music as a responsibility of being on the team, practice before hand is just another thing that helps
@@OnBendedKneeMusic Bro having an MD doesn't mean they don't practice. I don't think you understand what the role of the MD is buddy.
the best part of this whole thing was the "yeeeeah..." love the concept of this vid man. Not often do us smaller bands get to experience something like this. Very cool. God Bless!
How i missed this. Its like a battle ground you're wating your chief commander (md's) to command. When he says run,run when he says attack we attack. All the emotions all the intense all the joyfullness all are mix up togather to bring down God's presence/atmosphere of worship and his kingdom down.
This is one of the best videos for what to expect for an in ear mix! Great job guys
Our bass player usually is on the talk back during worship. When he’s not there it’s our keyboard player and I swear he sings the cues to us on beat. It’s pretty funny to hear.
i love Caleb’s lead line under the last big chorus. ripping, big, present, yet tasteful and not dominating. killer.
Caleb sure brought the 80s with that chorus effect and strat to sunday worship!
I MD for most of the bands and churches I play in while drumming. Click\Guides have made my life much easier. LOL Suggestion for Caleb. Run both IEM's in. I saw ambient mics on the stage; push those up to get the room. Friends of mine have hearing loss from years of running one in\one out. Take the time to dial in and pan your ears and it will make a huge difference and save your hearing.
I just wanted to comment again and encourage you guys! Ignore everyone saying that because of having this level of production means you aren't Spirit-Led. God uses all things - even plans and production(😱). God leads production also. God encourages us to bring our best fruits forward and if that is high production then it's high production and if it's all just band then it's just band. It discouraged me to see so many people commenting hateful things on this video. What a petty small thing to argue about 🤦. They are glorifying God. I know as a worship leader myself the click, ques, and tracks have actually help me greatly in even feeling a genuine worship moment myself, not alone the congregation. Before the clicks, tracks, and ques were introduced in my church I would be stressed out every Sunday. People might tell me just to practice more - hun.. I practiced four or more hours a day. The production helps me as a worship leader feel comfortable and have led to more Spirit-Led moments for me (wow.. who knew a click could help with that..) instead of no clicks and stressing out the the whole set. The tracks keep me in key and the click helps me stay on tempo. Fam, legit people need to calm down. God says to do everything for the glory of God and as long as you are, then you're all good.
Thank you, Julia
@Julia Reign, I'm in complete agreement with you on this
I totally agree with you Julia. I experienced the same thing.
Non-musicians aren't used to hearing the empty quality of an in-ear mix. If you listen to vocals only of many on-fire songs, it sounds haunting/hollow/lacking. The reaction to this video is partly a result of this. I wouldn't assume all these ppl are just hateful.
@@josephalbatross5961 yes that it true, his mix did sound hollow. It would be cool to hear different people in the bands mixes, just to hear the differences. I'm not saying all of the people who don't like clicks are hateful. I just saw quite a few posts saying that because churches use clicks and tracks they aren't being led by the Holy Spirit/they aren't allowing the Holy Spirit to move. They might not be comments fueled by hate, but it is hurtful when you've tried your best to bring your first fruits to God and someone claims you aren't being led by Him. I'm just saying God can use everything, even clicks. I'm not just a worship leader, but I'm also on the production team, and I have witnessed so many conversations where the team is just trying to use their gifts for the glory of God. Same as someone who doesn't use clicks is trying to use their gifts for the glory of God.
I play Bass guitar at our Church and the Pastor's wife is our singer and worship leader and she'll give hand signals for verse, bridge, chorus or keep playing what we are currently playing!! Works great!! Blessings!!
I love this. Being prepared, smooth and having a high level of excellence can really aid in taking people on a journey worship. Great
If they were truly prepared, would they really need a third party in their ear walking them through every step?
I would have loved to hear Bradford's mix as the MD as well since he's directing the whole band. Would be interested to hear the difference between the two mixes. I found it interesting that you had the click but very little drums. Our drummer and I play off each other so much.
We tried to get both of our in-ear mixes but we didn't have enough channels free to record them. I actually hear the drums more live on stage (acoustically), so what is in this mix isn't exactly the same as what I actually hear.
Honestly mine weren’t all that different haha I did have more keys tho.
Too much going on it's all distracting. Its distracting just listening to this.
@@larrytrejo1882 and you are entitled to your opinion :)
@@larrytrejo1882
Exactly. How can you worship and be inspired with all that micro management??
"Get ready, let's punch it!" 3:23 I *love* this enthusiasm! For those thinking this is distracting or over-produced, I can testify as an EG player, a good MD keeps the band tight and guides the energy 7:50. Psalm 33:3 teaches us to, "Sing unto Him a new song; play skilfully with a loud noise" (KJV). To play "skillfully" is a matter of *excellence* that we bring to our Lord.
Really REALLY appreciate this. Not that we think what we do is the only way or best way. But the amount of people getting pretty much pharisaical on us is hurtful 😕
We aren’t using this at the moment in my church because we’re very small and also we aren’t professional musicians, but I think it’s amazing that some churches can use these type of tools to make their worship sound better. It’s good to try and perfection our talents and what we give to God because he deserves THE BEST. So congrats to that church for doing such a professional job!! God bless you guys ♥️♥️
Also - how good is Caleb's setup for this song?! That's how you do it! If you're introducing this one to your church, steal what Caleb said. In Jesus' name! :).
That dude spoke like he had something to say with confidence in Christ. Cool to see him pastor with a guitar in his hands.
make a video please on how to set up ang ear monitor
Steal in jesus name?
@@larrytrejo1882 It's just a joke - I mean people should feel free to basically copy (steal) what Caleb said in their churches if they want to, because its all to glorify Jesus.
Chill out bro maybe he should have said copy not steal
It saddens me to see so many comments saying, "You're doing it wrong, my way is the right way," or, "I would hate that and would never do it that way." When our church got a new worship leader, he brought these techniques with him. Of course people were resistant at first, change is difficult. But I now wouldn't have it any other way, and our worship team has never sounded or clicked (pardon the pun) better. We get comments all the time about how wonderful the music is and how inspired in worship they are. What God wants for you is to do what works for you.This doesn't work for you? FINE, don't do it, but don't criticize others if it DOES work for them, and don't insult them by saying what they're doing isn't worship, as if you have the monopoly on how to do it!
*deep breaths*
All that said, as someone who has never had an MD before, I now find myself in that role. I would love to hear what his mix sounds like; I am not overly confident in my role but am getting better at it (so they tell me). Our only rehearsal time is before services, so sometimes when things are a bit sticky, I'm able to guide a little more than the recorded guide.
Also your transition to the next song was seamless, I love it!
(edit - I see you have other videos related to the MD, I will check those out, thank you for posting these!)
Thank you, Michelle
🙌😊
Someone loves that cowbell 😂
I’m tellin’ ya FELLA’s. You’re gonna want more of that cowbell!
@@worshiptutorials I prefer wood block , but yes, you are going to want that lol
Oh the click track.... not my cup of tea. Gave me a mild headache after a few measures.
needs more cowbell, not enough yet
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His voice is so soothing! The problem with me is that I tend to get excited and sometimes raise my voice...but this is such an amazing example!
Glad to see that I’m not the only one who makes mistakes when I play with the worship team on Sundays. 😊
Wow, that's a lot going on! Seems detracting but you pull it off beautifully. Its cool to see the mistakes and know that no one would ever know unless you point out out. Well done, thanks for sharing! Gives me something to aspire toward as an MD.
It really becomes background and gives freedom to worship. Tracks are easy to change, even on the fly and it frees you from directing the band.
the biggest surprise was that instead of calling numbers you are calling the actual chords
I did both ha some people don’t know numbers super well so I do both to do some immersion therapy 😂
I appreciate that, though I'd be chuckling everytime you say "yeahhhh"
@@jessemathews5502 it seems weird here. But live it makes things feel more human and not as robotic. It’s more my style to be laid back too :)
Clearly don’t know the Nashville system....so much easier
@@Roddo731 actually was doing both numbers and chords here.
Yes! Keep doing what you do brother! Ain’t nothing wrong with being organized!!!
That's so awesome. So glad that God is able to not just work with us in the moment but also in the planning. He never leaves us!
Love the shirt!
We love Premiere Guitar!
Shirt? How did you see that in context to this video.
Whenever I run camera and see him talking, I always wonder what Brad is actually saying haha. But for real, that was a really cool behind the scenes look at the MD position
You should just assume that he’s telling us about what kind of cheeseburger he’s planning to have for lunch 😂
Also - hi Cody! 👋🏻
@@worshiptutorials when myself or others are MD for the week at our locations, that’s pretty much speaking truth haha.
Hi, to the community: If you were classically trained as a musician, this is not a far stretch from a traditional conductor, or even a choir director. Much of music expresses deep emotion, and some of the best performances out there are hearts and souls poured out in a performance. Whatever we decide to do as a culture in musical expressions, should always have mind, soul and strength in each worship event. Too heavy on any one of these and we are out of balance, that will be those times when you left saying something was off. You can’t please everyone, so make sure you are pleasing God with all that you do. 39 years of performing live has helped calm my heart, years ago this video might of fired me up, not anymore! Thanks guys for the video! 😎
I grew up on worship band with holy spirit guiding me, us, and just by looking at each other we knew what's up ❤️
Although some may like this way of performimg, it’s too mechanized. As a worship drummer, I (and the band) just rely on the worship leader. We practice the day before and the morning of service but things rarely go as planned, as the Holy Spirit has the final say :)
I Corinthians 14:40 says all things should be done decently and in order... you can't get much more orderly then click tracks and a music director.im not saying this is you specifically, but alot of the times I hear people say "we don't really practice too much. We let the holy spirit lead." It also says study to show thyselves approved. I think that stems further than just the knowledge of the word of the Lord but into everything we do. Worship is a big deal and it should constantly be evolving into something better. Just like we strive to do that in our personal lives.
Agree, this is too mechanized indeed. Why not just play a record and everyone just listen to it.lol...I mean, as a worship leader, you are leading People to God's throne room. To feel the heavenly worship. If someone who is leading like the guy talking is not lead by the holy spirit, then we will never experience the heavenly worship. It's true,we need the worship to be perfect because it's for God, but if God's presence is missing in our worship then all our talents and skills are useless. If God is present in your worship then, you're on the right track.
This is just my observation: Drummer behind a plexiglass cage, a click track, someone in your ear telling you verse bridge chorus ... Then you have everyone going direct into the mixer and getting “in ear monitors”. Not a single amp on stage and no monitors. This might not be for everyone but I applaud the efforts. God bless your ministry
I assure you it’s with a ton of intentionality. Appreciate that, my friend.
My church does this aswell, I’m a drummer at mine. We do this same thing. Makes things a whole lot easier
@@kaleym1040 Gone are the days when you had to practice and learn to blend with the rest of the musicians and singers. Back in my day we had to practice for hours and days to get everything right. Now, it’s like having a choir just sing as loud or soft as they wanted, putting them behind a wall and fixing it in the mix. But believe me I understand. I use to work running sound in a casino back in the late 90s. We were one of the first to make all the bands go through the mixer and we used VDrums. For me it is so unnatural and I never thought the church would do it but I agree it’s much easier. If it helps the word of God go forward I’m all for it.
@@justinfry6153 yeah I agree too! I play on Sunday’s aswell and for the specific service I’ve been doing there is no click track or voice/track telling us what comes next so you just have to go with it, everyone is different and I get what you’re saying- me as a perfectionist I practice for hours on my own too trying to perfect it for Wednesday youth services even if a few people don’t notice, but yes I 100% get what you mean
@@kaleym1040 God not only see’s our efforts but he rewards us. He gave you those talents. Keep practicing, push yourself and God will open new doors for you
Bro! Caleb! What you thought was a mistake at the end of the lead line was actually super dope! Sometimes it sounds sick when to slowly bend into it a tad bit late haha 😎 you’re killing it dude.
It remind me, one of my church that I served during my college. Now, I am back from my hometown still continue to serve in worship team. What I found out was, we don't have the ear in monitor plus budget, planning to have this to bless the worship team. Pray that, everyone continue to serve in one heart to glorify Him.
I love this..... I wish to implement this in my church someday... It's so orderly. I'm a fan of order and I believe God is too❤️
God IS a God of order. I've been a worship leader for a long time -- be careful. This is very orderly, and gives the impression to the congregation of flexibly following the Spirit while exactly on tempo. It squashes all connection between musicians and congregation, often drowns out the actual music in the Team's ear, they just hear clicks and cues, and it's all extremely performative. God is also creative, and allowing freedom of soul bearing worship is important, so be wary of "ordering" yourself into pre-fab worship.
@mmmmdddd2267 are you just responding to everyone you disagree with here as a form of asserting dominance?
What you are doing is saying one form of worship is bad and your form is better. There is room for both.
And you are also making a lot of assumptions here. There is no squashing of connection. If anything it allows for better connection because the click is helping us all stay together and we are able to separate ourselves from that element and engage with one another more because of it.
We aren’t the ones saying your preference is wrong. But you are.
@@worshiptutorials Im sorry, I should have thought more carefully before replying. I thought I was just sharing an opinion, but I was too assertive. I have no dominance. I'm frustrated with many aspects of modern worship and have virtually no outlets. I should have sought something more positive.
I would transfer the click track to just a live cowbell. After all, never enough cowbell.
I’ve led worship over 4,000 times, with all kinds of audiences, from one to a million people. My most powerful experiences are those amazing times when God creates songs spontaneously, even entire albums “on the fly.” That’s when God ‘shows up’ the most. I’ve recorded many live worship albums (about 15) and none were rigidly planned, including several which went on to touch millions of lives (esp the gold and platinum ones). My greatest desire while leading worship is to be a prophetic conduit through whom God sings and plays, and the resultant music touches the people’s lives during their own individual worship experience. I can appreciate the technical excellence of what’s going on behind the scenes in this video. But speaking as a prophetic spontaneous song creator and worship leader, if I had to listen to a click track and follow a music director’s voice-instead of being able to flow with the Spirit, adjusting song forms and chords and keys as He leads me, and giving spontaneous chord changes to the band by hand signals or by musical feel, it would be a very restrictive experience. Form is good, but the ability to flow around that form, as the Spirit leads, spontaneously, repeating sections of the song at will depending on what is ‘catching fire’ in the congregation at that moment, is even better. And creating the Song of the Lord spontaneously, is the best. I hope your band also practices that. Talented musicians like yours should be encouraged to create new songs on the fly, which thanks to modern technology, would not only bless the live worshipping congregation, but through live-streaming and playback-on-demand, could go instantly around the world and end up becoming worship anthems in themselves. Go guys! May many new songs come forth as the Spirit guides and inspires you all.
I’ve played places where we don’t have any clicks or cues, I’ve played where the cues are built in to the track so there is no room for error. This is my favorite style of you have a team who’s all on board and who can adjust very easily. This is my favorite way of running in war mixes
Playing in smaller youth worship groups I've always just used nods and mouthing words to everyone else to communicate but this definitely helps production value for such a large church
Man. I’m gonna a be honest - some of you are saying some really judgemental and hurtful things. And it sucks to hear that about a gift we/I are/am offering the Lord. The irony. Our channel’s mission statement is that people would have excellent and authentic worship in their churches. We haven’t lost site of that. All of this is done to that end. We aren’t saying this is the only way to lead worship. It’s how *we* do it. And, furthermore, you are only seeing/hearing one song. We are on the same team. Let’s encourage one another in their ministries. Or at least not be buttholes to others and how they serve :)
You should see all the comments I’ve deleted... 🤦🏻♂️
Yes!! Just because some churches don’t have a click and monitor wedges, or others have an MD, tracks, a click, etc (I’m the TD at our church, and we started with the former 14 years ago, now we have the latter), doesn’t mean God can’t move and bring people into the Kingdom! I’ve seen people give their lives to Jesus at a church with none of that production, and I’ve seen people come to Jesus at our church, yours, and many others with higher production value. From a TD perspective, I LOVE having all that production, because it keeps everything rolling during a service, and then some. As a musician, I thought it would confuse me, but the first time I played with all that going on in my ears, it just melts into the background, and gave me more confidence, which then allowed me to worship more freely, not dwelling as much on the music, but the worship. We are the Church, and I feel like so many people forget that. And I give major props to all the MD’s out there!
Hey Brad not trying to be a buttmunch, but when I see these types of videos I think it's overkill on the production, and very scripted. I grew up in church and have played with some great choirs and worship teams. Truly the spirit of the lord can move anywhere. Having gone to a mega church for a few years it felt more like a show/concert and not a church service. Just my humble thoughts and experiences. Be blessed.
@@frankspikes7858 Would love to see your biblical support for how a well planned experience with great production creates less of a connection to God or in some way dissatisfies God or delegitimizes our worship? Spontaneity and your view of "overkill on the production" has nothing to do with connection to Jesus Christ and providing an atmosphere to worship.
@@JLGortman Are you having a worship service or shooting a movie? The best worship experiences I've had was an unscripted service. There is an order to everything. God is a god of order true. But when I see videos like this, and visit some churches that do the same thing it restricts the holy spirit to a script. Anybody can Meet God anywhere as long as the heart and mind is ready to accept truth of the gospel. I remember doing street ministry. It was me on drums, and a brother on acoustic guitar. No p a system. People walked by, stopped and started asking my pastor questions.
I came up at a time before sound shields, everyone had an amp on stage, and no direct boxes or in ears.
This is fascinating. I grew up playing in churches small enough to fit in a trailer. Just a 3-piece set with washboards, tambourines, harmonicas, and a good ol stompnclap. So yeah, there were no clicks, monitors, MD's or even hand signals. Someone started singing and you jumped in. If one of the musicians starts feeling it, you play along. Totally organic jam.
A while ago our new worship leader brought in clicks and tracks. It was a long time before I got used to them, but I love them now. It has made worship so much more of fun experience (for me anyway). If you go off on a spontaneous moment most of the time it is easy to get off tempo the click has help me greatly in that respect. I used to have panic attacks from nerves before going onstage because there was nothing to fall back into, when you messed up you messed up big. Having the clicks has made me so much more comfortable on stage. I play rhythm acoustic and it is just so nice to have the click to fall back into. Before the click I would follow the drums, but they weren't reliable 100% It makes it a lovely experience to bring your best to God and to make the worship not distracting to the congregation.
Awesom. I wish my church had such system.
All I hear during worship is the drums and the singers. lol
Best recipe for getting crapped on by a keyboardist for not matching the following spontaneous chord voicing changes or lines.
In our church, the worship leader gives us hand signals
same
As an MD on my church's worship team, you might be interested to know that we use hand signals too! The platform is pretty wide and musicians on the sides--especially the front row--would have a hard time catching all of the hand signals from the worship leader, so instead, the worship leader gives hand signals to me (MD) which I then communicate to the rest of the team. That way, the rest of the team doesn't have to divert their attention away from the congregation or their instrument.
Even more importantly, the MD mic goes to the lighting, sound, and camera team so that they can be on top of last minute changes too. There's no way they would catch all of the worship leader's hand signals.
There's nothing wrong with leading worship without an MD. It's just that it's just another tool to help create a distraction free environment for the congregation :)
me too, in Indonesia
Yes!
same
How do you even focus on worshiping with all this stuff in your ears..i mean i'm all for being organized but at this point we'll end up being invested in just the music but not the object of our worship.
Yeah exactly
Once you get used to it the click and everything kind of fades into the background.
Losing focus of the object of our worship is a heart issue and has little to do with the kinds of technologies that we use to create music.
I think you can focus more on worshipping if you don't have to remember if you are supposed to play the tag again there or repeat that chorus here. And in this case, where they don't seem to have any chords or sheet music on stage, the guide in your ear is extra helpful.
I would argue that doing the music with excellence is part of the worship bands’ job to guide the congregation into a more worshipful experience, which sometimes means the worship band might have to sacrifice some of what personally brings them more into worship. That’s why they are a “worship leader” not just a “worshiper.” It’s not really about what the band wants, but more about them helping guide the crowd into worship. If they were just focused on worshipping and not leading, they wouldn’t be on the stage, they would be in the crowd because that’s an intimate moment. But worship leading on the other hand is a public service. I think a lot of Christians don’t make that distinction between the two.
@@JonathanGrahamVideo yes doing music with excellence is important, everyone should be practicing, and learning their instrument and improving all the time. Personally I have played music from 3rd grade and have been through the military school of music and I can tell you I have never played with a click track. a good drummer will drive the band, and if you have a bad drummer the bass will help them out. but if I am leading worship and don't enter into worship myself. where am I leading others to? they are following me, so if I don't go there neither will they. the time to work on perfection is in the practice sessions and rehearsals. once you are playing for God, you let that go and focus on him and present him everything you worked on, enter into praise and worship and bring your congregation with you. I would much rather musicians that made a couple mistakes but truly had their hearts on God then the absolutely greatest polished performance ever.
im a guitarist on our church (christian) and we also have a band but we dont have much stuff like big churches have but with the grace of God everyone is doing really really great by just signals and looking at each other. It only means that no matter how much the things you have as long as its for the glory of our King, nothing is impossible! Also if you are playing for God, you are learning really different from others. You know the feeling that when someone is off beat or made a liitle mistake, you already know it even though you are not wearing anything on ear hahahhaha. You are not only advance musically but spiritually too. Im still learning with the help of God and hoping that me, the band, the church and the people of that temple to experience the new things in music.
PS: im not saying that having advance music stuffs is bad, its actually a bonus. God's extra gift for them, for letting God work on their lives.
PS: the question is, what do we hear everytime we playing it infront of a lot of people with big amplifiers and speakers besides us and dont have any in ear? We dont actually hear a thing but only the people singing. That is why before the service, all the people that will stand on the back of Christ on every service should pray. God's presence on you will not make you shiver in fear.
This is good for people to hear. Nothing prepares you for the sounds of in ears. Totally different world… But it is so much better than wedges. Great MD, too.
A bassist leading the behind the scenes worship?? What era is this?!?! Loving it!!
I feel like we need a little more COWBELL
This guy knows what's up! 😂
If Bruce Dickinson is our worship director, then I think we need to give him more cowbell!!
Don’t fear the reaper! 😉
That was very interesting! I never knew that's what people using these in-ear monitors hear. I was suspecting that there could be a metronome but I never thought there's also someone guiding. Cool stuff!
Yes I love in ear monitors while playing so much better then monitor speakers. I understand why man thinks he has to control every aspect of life, but when the Holy Spirit actually leads everything is great! Let Him lead!!!
For those comments about too rigid, too structured, etc, you are doing the same thing with visual cues. A lot easier to give and receive cues when you aren't constantly having to watch someone which can take your focus away.
Second, about those that say this doesn't leave room for the Holy Spirit, read in the Bible and study how worship was done in the Temple and Tabernacle when the Levites and Priests were literally in the visible presence (in the case of the Tabernacle especially, as much as one can be) of God. It was very orderly and structured. You couldn't just do what you wanted at any time. Also, worship isn't singing, it's literally getting on your face before the Most High and how we live our lives in obedience and reverence of Him through our Messiah everyday! This is corporate prayer and praise, getting into His presence.
Let's see a bit more unity, understanding, and wisdom and stop all this "my way is better than yours" garbage please. Let's grow up in the image of Messiah and love one another.
Perfectly said Brother 🙌
Amen brother 🙌🏿
Very well said. Amen
It's all fun and games until something happens and the track queues come through the mains unexpectedly. We've had the PRIME app suddenly do this to us 2 weeks in a row. I'm guessing the congregation somehow is reminded of the "Milli Vanilli" incident
Oh no! We've had that happen before but always due to user error - never because the software did it on its own.
@@worshiptutorials well...they dont really know. We just know it only happened in one of the services and didnt happen in the previous one so they can't figure it out so we are blaming software lol
😂
If you know the songs you don't need the directions and then no worries on Milli Vanilli incidents.
@@jayl5941 yea personally I have queues turned down pretty low but for weekend warrior folks and especially singers coming and going, it really helps them.
Feels more like the studio than a live situation… been doing this for the last 22 years, and that my friends is overkill to the max. Just because we can doesn’t mean we should. Look at the musicians you play with and learn to read their cues.
MD’s voice is so soothing
That transition at the end was good!
I've played at some of the largest churches in my state using only physical cues and chemistry. This is foreign to me.
I am in the video production side of our church services. It was a great experience to hear the audio side of the production. Thanks for sharing.
Dwayne Alexander
FUMC Murfreesboro Tn.
Are you a video switcher too or a camera operator?
Zach
I do both but mainly running a camera now. I seem to get more enjoyment out of it.
Dwayne
It's like conducting an orchestra without being up in front! So cool! Thank you for sharing!
I like that you had only in your ears what was essential for your best performance so to say. The biggest mistake a lot of beginner in ear users make is to try to achieve a "CD mix" where every instrument and vocalist are in their ears. The main purpose of in ears is to eliminate the stage wedges, thus reducing on stage volume and feedback, and to have the ability to run click and tracks, but also to hear the key elements of each individual song, such as the click and cues, MD, their own instrument and worship leader for example. Singers typically would need their vocal and a pitch instrument like keys to help them sing on key as best as they can. In this instance, less really is more. The better you can hear, the better you will play
We got along fine with stage wedges. Feedback is not a problem if you have a good soundman. Most peeps I see always pull the IE's out during a song. Thats an indication that its not working out. How about we stop trying to put on the Grammy's every Sunday and play as a well rehearsed band. Its just a few songs, for goodness sake!!
Interesting take! I get beginners having too much in their ears! I think it definitely depends on the musician and preference. I feel like I want a little more in my ears so it feels full and I can enjoy what everyone is playing with me. As a drummer, I’m obviously heavy on bass, pan guitars slightly, vox, some keys, and then myself. I try to even my mix out as best as possible unless someone is playing something specific that I prefer to have out for a certain song. Good info though for new folks dialing in their IEM’s!
@@kennykorsen Yeah you have the correct approach. Fuller is better when it’s possible and when it won’t “cloud” your mix
I heard someone play a sharp four on the downbeat going into verse 2 🧐
😂
"... so you like jazz?"
I like how this keeps everyone in tune.
We definitely need this in some churches😂😅 but would still need some time to get used to
This is really cool. I'm used to just jumping on stage with skilled & unskilled musicians and playing. But I can see how necessary this is for big production worship, especially if you're recording the set to listen to and you can't afford to have pointless mistakes from simply forgetting parts.
Your videos are very helpful 😄
Thanks!
I love the wide range of topics you cover. This is something that isn't in our worship team's wheelhouse just yet, but it's still amazing to be a "fly on the wall" so to speak. God bless you all and the ministry you provide! BTW, do you have a shipping date on your Quad Cortex pre-order yet? I'm eager to see your review of the device!
This is actually so smart, no wonder it sounds so good
At CRC our in ear mix is the same. The click is necessary but it can be a bit overpowering at times. This is where you trust your talent, prep and the Holy Spirit
This is so over the top I can’t
PH here.. we do not have a music derector so we follow the song leader with his finger signal.
HAHA same with matching eye contact.
I've been serving the Lord through the worship ministry at the age of 13 and I got used to 'eye communication' since we were kind of a small band. But around 3 years ago, I joined another worship ministry and they introduced these kinds of techniques and equipments. I was kind of skeptical at first and was way out of my comfort zone since the metronome keeps clicking on your ear.
But when I got the hang of it, I realized it's importance.
It's not easy to handle everyone on stage thus earning my respect for the MDs. It's not like they're "controlling" anyone.
Actually, when you actually get used to using in-ears, the more in sync everyone will be. It also made me appreciate the worship song even more since I have to study it more because the MD just usually use cues like "1st verse", "chorus", "bridge 1", etc. Thus, you have to be very well familiar with the sequence of the song.
I believe MDs are not only musically intelligent but awesome with people and work well with the Holy Spirit!
Awesome video!!
The beat at our church is more like a knock, but the rest is very accurate! This is so cool, because when your on stage all you can hear is the click, and so hearing both at the same time is pretty cool.