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- čas přidán 29. 01. 2020
- Today we retired the Hot Shot and moved the seeutek pk80 over to the Huffy Cranbrook.
We will also be replying to some comments to provided the community with random bits of information.
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I've been watching your videos for a long time on my television and I never could figure out how to comment, but now that I can, I feel the need to thank you for all of help your videos have given me. God bless you sir. Thank you.
Like what you said about defensive driving, Been hit twice both while I had right of way and driver blew red light , then stop sign, I slow at every cross and ride much more aware now.
You especially have to ride like you're invisible on these because people see a bicycle and assume its a normal bike and think they they have time to pull out I've almost been run over by a tractor trailer that was at a stop sign because of this, he started moving as I was directly in front of him, it wasn't his fault nor was it mine but you have to be VERY careful when riding these
Well said man.
You have to hit the gas and swerve
Same thing with me this lady had her kids in the car and I was coming to a stop and just went for it
I got a straight pipe on there now so I just pull the clutch and rev it to the max ik they can hear it
I look for motorcycles more than actual cars its way too easy to not see anything smaller than a car on the road
You are the only one thus far that has so much detail and educational content...!!!!thank you...!!!! 👍👍👍👍👍
I appreciate that!
You've helped so much when it comes to deciding if I should get a bike engine and now that I've been watching your amazing vidoes I see that maintenance is easy and it's pretty simple and fun. Thank you for the great videos. I love them so much.
Recommend a 415H motorcycle scooter chain(these are durable and hard to install but not impossible), CNC throttle and Mag wheels on bike, maybe dual disc brakes.
Did you get the motor?
ive been watching your channel for a while now. i had one of those 80cc anbull engines that came in but the engine came seized and the clutch was broken lol. i have a 50cc being shipped soon and im super excited to use it ! im thankful for these videos youve made. thanks a bunch!
Thanks for the tips very useful i'm from puerto rico in my fatbike i got a seeutek and runs great thanks again👍👍💪
Very good videos. Very informative just all together really good professional and well done
Love your videos man great job on everything you do im your biggest fan thanks for all your expertise and knowledge
Hey, great advice on filling the space in the chain cover. About the exhaust lubing the chain, not a bad idea except the un burned old is not the only thing that will drip from the pipe. An automatic oiler isn't hard to make and can be set to drip very slowly. Just have to remember to open and close the valve at the beginning and end of each ride. I don't know if o ring chains are available in this size, but they only need to be cleaned once in a while. The way we used to lubricate they non o ring chains for racing many moons ago,,, Heat grease in a pot and immerse a chain in it. When the grease thins out, it creeps in between the pins and rollers where it's needed and thickens up there when it cools. Was the best "trick" for keeping lubrication in an abused chain for a long time. Enjoyed your video and have subscribed.
I'm trying that lube trick out
Good info! Guess that I've been lucky, as I've had Pepe (my motorized bike) for over 13 years and only a leaking intake tube and weak chain needed attention-John in Texas
I like the experienced advice. It's good educational content. I'm just beginning to research motorizing a bicycle and all these tips help. This video potentially just saved me and others from some serious headaches and stress in the future. Thanks 👍
To answer your survey: yes, make more experienced tips and tricks vids. They help people.
Great video and yes I like this kind of videos very informative one advice that stick to my head was to drive like if I was invisible great tip
Oh, that last question is interesting.
Reminded me when I was young, and I over filled the oil in my C90. The seal on the gear selector drum is right over the front sproket, so when it blew off because of excess oil, my chain was lubricated 🤣
I’ve had my motor for two years and runs fine haven’t changed cylinder head clutch pads and stuff like that
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How many miles in 2 years?
Couldn't agree more if your going 35 mph on a bicycle with 2 stroke engines you better have you're wits about you.i have a little mountain bike with the 49 cc really cool I built it from scratch. Along with a better bike I recently picked up another complete one for 50 bucks. My first bike has a little more than 200 bucks My first build I am mechanically experience and frankly I grew up race deserting motocross. Open class only so these cute little things are nothing really but fun.i plan on on building a collection 80 cc 100 cc and a 4 stroke model.when I graduate to a high speed road bike I plan on using one of those cool frames with the built in tank I have seen some gorgeous ones that are out together sweet with the backseat and years 70 plus mph but for now I going to build mountain bike style and get more experience in our these little rice burners under my garter belt haaa.You provide a tremendous amount of information on these things and I sincerly appreciate it. Take care
On the note of riding like you are invisible, (which, btw, is exactly what you should do) you should also ride like EVERYONE can see you. I built bikes for my cousin and i, (we live in a decent sized town/city in Wisconsin) while riding around, a car came up from behind and was tailgating my cousin really hard. (Speed limit of the road was 30 mph, we were both doing about 35mph and unable to physically go any faster.) Causing him to run off the road, but not before that car cane with in about a foot of his rear tire. He slammed on his brakes so hard just to prevent from crashing that he locked the rear brakes (v brakes, the arms tightened and bent so they held the wheel) and bent his rear wheel. Ride safe out there.
I agree on your assessment on the rag joint. The alignment and maintenance is the key to it lasting
I even built my second bike and used a 2001 xr80r Honda dirt bike engine on it and used a rag joint on it and about 600 miles now still doing good.
Loving my two stroke right now
What are your thoughts on how far you can travel on a motorized bike... I'm planning on getting a motor for my bike so I can get to work.. Also what are some good motors?
@@jessemartinez2492 they have really good km to the liter a full tank would easily last me a full week with a 15 minute ride everyday. Im not really sure what a good motor would be but if you did a good bit of research i say you could find a good one. I heard some people talking about a zeda motor. I heard they were good. I didint do much reaserch when i got mind i just got it off ebay and i suppose i got lucky because it hasent broke yet.
I am a first timer motorized bike and just by looking all these videos it looks a lot of fun... I am on my 60’s and pedaling gets me tired and knees hurt so badly so my best choice is to get a motor what kind of motor do you recommend?? Will preciate some recommendation thanks in advance
@@wilfredlinares9755 I just got a cheap $100 kit online. Never let me down.
@@wilfredlinares9755 The seeutek pk80 is one of the higher quality types for a low price. I don't own it myself, but i haven't seen any complaints on it so far.
The oil from the exhaust lubricating the chain is a really good idea!!!
I like your endurance video this is good too I just have a 2stroke I built and am always still building and like seeing them healthy enough to do that
Your videos are great
Recently took a 112 mile trip from buffalo ny to olcott ny and back broke the engine in nicely
Jeez that must have taken for ever lol
@@epicwinfacepie actually it only took an hour and a half 2 hours
@Lil Engine actually at 2 hours i was doing around 30 with upgraded parts you should have no problem pulling that
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112 miles in 2 hours comes out to 56 mph average speed
I see the way you ride and interact with the bike. I just picked one up and plan to get quite a bit of use out of it. And I'm hearing horror stories about using them as regular commuters
well put together video and rides! I'm waiting for my first kit to arrive a YD100 , I have been filling in my knowledge gaps with help from your likes. I'll be back roading on mine, so it's primary goal is reliability tips and tricks are always welcome .
I'm planing on grabbing the YD100 as well, going to put it on the 2020 Schwinn Taff in the next month or two. Let me know how you like the motor after you break it in :)
Is there anything stronger than the yd 100 I hear them call these 66 / 80 they are 66cc or 49 I guess what's the strongest motor I can buy
@@joerillarilla8524 I've seen vids of guys cutting frames and welding predator 212 cc motors into bikes but these are the easy to install ones
@@PlayingWithFireOutdoors yea but they r way different
You just gotta like at 80 miles an hour and a tractor trailer just got into motorized bicycles love the sport thank you
The thing I love most about this video is the question at the end, that's something I would like to know
Compared to the other guys doing motorized bike videos, you're the most engaging. You don't even sound like a man from Louisiana.
Havnt tried oil chain from exhaust mainly cause try to keep oil from rear tire. Learned that lesson riding motorcycles. Also chain catching...,I tilted my motor forward so that top of gear case was further away from chain and have had no problem since. But understand not every solution across the board. But have built 2 stroke, 4 stroke and 1000w 48v ebike. So i have learned many lessons the hard way. Biggest upgrade in my opinion was wheels. My spoked wheels had to be trued every other ride and just got sick of tasking tires off n on. So i got some mag wheels and i love them. Durable, sprocket mounts directly to wheel and disc brakes were no problem to install. after i made my own adaptors. so if i can help with Anything would be my pleasure.
On the fork swap....Myself I used a set from a junk bike.... I had to use a cutoff wheel and trimmed the top and bottom of the tube for the threads to fit the top locknut on.... Just make sure it is an even cut and clean the edges for the bearing cups to fit back in the tube
Good vid,and great points.I like the Q&A areas too.I don't run my motor wen I get on a sidewalk for traffic safety.I Never believe someone sees me,and watch out expecially for people turning right.They look left,but almost Never right before turning.@$25 for new cylinder and ring set of Ebay.I found 1 for $23.Happy Trails.
Solid way to ride, keep it up! and thanks for the info :)
A rebuilt is a common on 2 strokes, remember thought rebuilding means you'd have to do the proper break in again.
PS. Not such a heavy 16:1 or 20:1 since the crankcase has been lubricated and the cylinder walls/piston ring+bearing can be precisely lubricated for effective break in.
Regarding what tools/spares you carry with you: You didn't mention a 14mm socket and some kind of wrench/ratchet wrench, and ABSOLUTE MUST! I went on a long ride during one of the hottest days of the summer two years ago. Well, I brought every tool/part you could practically need with me, EXCEPT for a 14mm socket and wrench. My head bolts ended up coming loose (forgot to tighten them after break in, so STUPID!) and I blew a hole in my piston, was pretty scary, but the worst part was pushing that 70lb bike for 5 miles to get back home in 110 degree heat. SO KEEP A 14mm SOCKET AND WRENCH ON HAND AT ALL TIMES!
Good call! I had a head loosen up mid ride to for the same reason... a 14mm would have been good to have.
@@LAHover I hear you brother, sometimes lessons are learned the hard way, lol. When I pushing that heavy bike home, during 110 degree heat, I damn near collapsed from heat exhaustion, I was only about 2 miles from home but was so burnt out that I couldn't take another step. This happened at a park, where I sat down on the grass to cool off and rest for a few. Well about 5 minutes later the sprinklers just randomly turned on, spraying me with cold water which I was SO GRATEFUL FOR! It was like "Manna from Heaven", and interestingly enough the park maintenance man was driving by in his "golf cart" (or whatever it was) and stopped, looked at me and said, "That's weird, the sprinklers aren't supposed to come on at this time, but you look so hot & exhausted I guess its divine intervention". They say that the Lord works in mysterious ways, and boy was I grateful that day, lol.
@@williamccjr dont any of you have a functional crankset? I've done 70 mile trip on a regular bicycle, it wasn't easy, and neither am i a cyclist, but 7 miles, ezpz
@@rockrl98bro if you do 70 miles in one day, say for 10 hours nonstop, you'd have to be doing 7mph the entire time. You must have some flat ground or incredible endurance
I say this because I do a mountain bike 3.5 miles everyday mild hills through town, and it wears me out a lot
Lol are you serious? I pulled off 35 miles in 2.5 hours and im a smoker. Averaging 7mph is nothing. 70 miles in ten hours is time to stop off for a beer
you made a good point about being defensive, alot of people do NOT think!
Gotta concur regarding rag joints. I have one on one wheel, and a Billet Adapter on another build, and truth be told I think I trust the rag joint more. Just something about the nut bushings on the adapter against the spokes under torque...I dunno, I may put a rag on that wheel too...
Beautiful Vidio Sir! Very Informative! earned my sub
Exhaust oiling the chain. Back in the day Harley routed the engine breathed thru a tube that exited over the chain.it worked on my 74 flh. But then the eco crew did away with vented motors. What's old is new,lol
I've built 2 kits, so I'm definitely not an expert, but my bikes get ridden, a lot. After the first few miles I tightened them up, then they were fine. Full disclosure I did replace the crappy hardware with grade 8 stuff.
Good video and info. Subscribed
Awesome, thank you!
Thank you for making these videos, they're awesome!
Glad you like them!
Bro I really like just hearing the sounds of the tools and stuff without music or anything
Love your vids man. Do yourself a favor and buy a 1/4" drive Ryobi impact driver and some sockets. It's cheap and is more than good enough for this type of work. You won't regret it!
I bought a universal hydraulic disc brake and adapted it to the stock cranbrool wheel and welded a bracket to the original fork works great!
They make a universal adapter that goes right on the axle nut and a little hose clamp type thing that goes around the fork don't have to weld weld on metal you weaken it
That’s not true! Where did you come up with this ? Of course you can weld metal!!!!
Yeah you can weld any metal but when you weld metal you weaken it because you're changing the molecular structure of it especially on those China frames like the Cranbrook that's a huffy from Walmart
Shouts outs from Erie Pennsylvania
I think the large gap around the chain sprocket on the engine is so you can put a larger gear on and still have clearance.
Make sure you ten your tensioner to the bike frame a bolt or a pain in the frame where the bolt tensioner is for the chain so it does not move and take your spokes out
Once you take the forks off you will see what size head tube is but older ones typically had smaller tubes and the new ones have larger sized head tubes!
I am on my 7th build.. the first motor failed me because the mounting bolts vibrated loose while going down the road and one bolt snapped off when the motor turned sideways. The other 6 bikes all still run fine and my family uses them on a daily basis to goto work, store etc.. I have learned it helps to check bolts often, use liberal amounts of locktight and try to keep the motor in its comfort zone, (8/10 of throttle) to keep things running very smoothly. I have yet to build a 4 stroke, but that is coming soon.
How do I make my bike start everything set up correctly just seems the clutch doesn’t engage properly to start it and the wheel is still free coasting instead of locking up to start the motor ?
@@Daleyc Have you taken off the clutch cover and adjusted the nut for tension? There should be one large nut with a tiny Phillips head screw inside of it, you take the screw out, hold the lever in and adjust the nut till its tight. czcams.com/video/dyQMaoKBnto/video.html&pp=ygUnaG93IHRvIGFkanVzdCBtb3Rvcml6ZWQgYmlrZSBjbHV0Y2ggbnV0
They sell a little peace of metal called a "motorized bicycle chain stop" on ebay that bolts the side cover preventing chain lockup.
The ears on the wrist pin clips get knocked off. I lost 2 engines that way. the cure is using clips without ears. Treatland has them from Wiseco for about $5 with shipping. You have to cut a groove in the pin area so you can get a pick under them.
Get rid if the inline fuel filter if you have one in your tank , increases flow and make sure your ratio of oil is tuned to your bike where the bore and head is not black and spark plug is coffee looking
Ran one only one rim with rag joint for 12 years, maybe 5000 miles. Retired it only because last time I had it trued, they said that all they could do with it. Got hub adapter, broke spokes, punctured tube.. A nice slime tube 😢.
A - I didn't got back and check it
B - Grease found its way between hub and adapter.
when my motor kicks on , what do i need for the peddles to stop moving? i believe its a chain to goes from the peddle to the motor... any ideas????
Words of wisdom 🙌
I like the points you raise about chain lubrication, tension and it folding up in the trans.
Chain tension I would imagine could be solved with a 2 stage spring tensioner... fancy yes but I'm gonna make one, essentially like a miniaturized long travel shock absorber in a guide. The "fill the space" epoxy puddy is a great idea too, but the machined cover would be ideal. Compromise and go get a guide plate welded to the inside of your cover?
Automatic lubrication would be great, but I would worry about an excess buildup gathering in the trans (especially with the cover chain guide) or worse... on you. Not sure how much the exhaust leaks honestly, my only frame of reference I have is messy nitro RC motors. I'll be ordering my 1st 48cc 2 cycle kit (IL legal) next week, and your video is quite informative, thanks!
I've seen a block that is machined to fit in the space.... can't remember if it was on Amazon??? - yup, found it... "sthus 80cc Motorized Bicycle Engine Add on Motor Chain Lock up block"
So today I went a got the exact same bike with a cheap engine kit on it for only 100 bucks! The bike had its tags on it and the bike never even got ran through it’s first tank of break in oil even yet! Only thing that was wrong was the throttle cable got pulled through the plastic throttle tub but luckily I had one from a minibike I had that worked and now I have a awesome bike to cruise back roads around me
The 415 stock chain that comes with the engine kits is more than long enough for 29" bikes. You still have to remove about 5-7 links to have the correct length of chain.
How do I make my clutch engage to start my bike ? It just carry’s on free coasting instead of starting ?
Yes I actually do run my exhaust where it blows on my change oiling my chain however you have to have a chain cleaner permanently mounted on it otherwise with the excess oil on it the road dirt gets up on the chain and causes damage to the chain and gumming up your sprockets inside the motor housing other than that it is a lifesaver especially if you ride in very wet areas my chain has never even had surface rust on it
I have also heard of the exhaust system having garbage in them and it gets sucked into the cylinder.
A remedy for a slipping adapter is to install it on the shaft and if both sides touch both sides need to be shaved till you can see small spacing after that use a pin punch and tap it with a hammer to roughen it up the inside and also all around the rim shaft and problem fixed
Exhaust near or blowing on chain I've seen only on motorcycles not bicycles. It heats up the chain & makes them look real dirty but never seen anything go wrong. I've also seen a blow by hose on 4 stroke go on top of a chain.
I agree. Bought a adapter 40 tooth. Like rag adapter better👍
My engine cuts off whenever I engage the clutch I just did a complete engine overhaul on a phantom 85 any ideas why it shuts off when I pull in the clutch
Just thought you'd like to know a garage door opener that uses a chain to operate it will work on the bikes. It's a 415 chain. It's a nice long length too. I see these in dumpsters all the time.
Not true. It varies mine uses a bicycle chain
Good stuff thanks
Does anyone have any experience with the bbr tuning stage one 2 stroke kits
Holy crap did u make me laugh all of my motors have been second hand I'm sorry to say virtually no milage because of the exact scenario you described either a wheel fell apart or some other misfortune I got the good end of the deal someone or several someone's realized a crash at even 25mph sucks hard and have gotten 6 motors this way thanks for letting people know that these aren't for the average person or kids they vibrate a lot and require a lot of carefull maintenance to be safe thank you!
The first engine I ever bought had the piston installed backwards and both rings were busted when I finally had to overhaul it. I check the piston every time I get a new engine now. It’s 50/50.
I love the videos on this channel! I'm new to the motorized bike world and getting my kit shortly. How do i determine if the piston is in backwards?
Hey brother,so I picked up a yd ,oz reed,and a 21 mm pwk,my question is how do you do "piping" to make it all work?I mean from intake to carb.Thanks for any help.I heard you mention p.v.c. once I think.
Hey br i like ur videos...what do u think is my best bet on a rear wheel..obviously i would like to get a hub adapter but i at least am going to go with 12 gauge spokes.. my bike is a Yukon Giant 44 to carburetors stock I do have a banana pipe on it not a full expansion chamber but it in Access one and runs a lot better with it curious what you think as far as wheels go bro
what size are the gungeon pins on these engines? one of mine flew! off today. didn't even hear it land.
On your seeutek motor take off the fly wheel cover clutch plate and spring. Then loosen clutch cable and it will reset your clutch arm.
Christian Campbell sooooo usefull
The Hotshot bicycle has just been retired and was replaced by the Huffy Cranbrook bicycle.
Thats a chaintastic idea
Where are you from? I might need your help with a rebuild on three motors and how much will it cost to send them to you
24:00 I had it twice because I didn't tune properly, got it started and going but would immediately sputter out, and going fast on a heavy bike when that clutch is fighting back... it was enough torque to bend the stock tensioner bracket, and the I guess the shock of it rippled up the chain and got it stuck.
Flip the clutch bracket arm. It should be angled outward. And when adjusting the cable only adjust it so the arm rests on the clutch pin (no pressure).
I had a motor do the.....I took the carb filter completely off due to more power, I rode it in rain and on dusty days, the engine lasted 7 months before it died.
Mine starting making scary noises then lost power....it started but died soon as you gave it gas....the cyl walls looked like a grinder was ran through it.
Hey how can I fix my muffler bolts that are broke at stud how do I get them out so I can put a new one on let me know
built 2 fat tire bikes and 1 standard bike using 56 tooth and had to add more chain. no big deal. but have some around so you don't have to wait to ride, peace ride family
are the any 4 stroke kits u recomend
Are you running no chain tensioner in this video??? Please respond I'd like to know if Engine mount style or running no tensioner at all would work better than the stock one obviously right?
Each bike is different. Some need them, some don't. I try to run without them when I can.
Some single speeds will let you put the tensioner on the pedal side.
Spring tension is good if you only have a little slack in the chain. Too much slack will make them useless.
I added a full electrical system to my 49cc 2 stroke: I have head lights, tail light, brake light, blinkers, a horn and even a phone charger. My problem is that because of a bad fuel/oil mix I caused my motor to seize. I replaced the cylinder, piston, got a high performance head and carb. I have compression and my multimeter says I should have spark (new spark plug too) but as soon as I let out the clutch it locks up. Any ideas?
Your post/question is bouncing all over the place. I would not even no where to start. Feel free to join the discord server. It may be easier to ask your question here.
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Eh fender tip take a piece of pvc pipe split it with a saw and heat it up and bend it around a old rim, will have to clean up a few waves but they would great as full fenders
Cool, thanks
I've been riding the same two-stroke 80cc motor for 11 years with a rag joint on it same rim on the back same rim a huffy stock Chinese rim and I tighten those nuts every 10 hours riding it I've never had any problem
Does your chain rub on your frame on your cranbrook? And if no,how did you avoid it?
How can u tell all the motor’s apart from each other. Theres no casting numbers on ether of the 2 i have but one has smaller one pice head an other has bigger 2 pice head
Lol !!! You couldn't be more accurate.
We call that senero being "Dead Right" !
When undoubtedly you're in the right, but now you're dead !!!
Did you make sure you ran a heavy mixture of oil. For break in.
Also mine i had to tear down and retorque every nut n bolt.
The motor seemed to be assembled
All willie nillie. Without a torque wrench. And i am an experianced motor builder. For yrs. And it would not have lasted long the way it came.
So, what is your favorite bike frame? And what is your favorite engine?
Ayyy I’m from Indiana!!!!!! At least that’s what it sounded like you said 13:55
Nice Video!
Thanks!
That last part about fouling the fill that void with gear oil it will oil the chain auto about 2 drops a day loose seals in there the reason I did who make sure bearing got the chain was an additional benifit.
I tried reading this 4 times... I have NO IDEA what you are saying, sorry.
My bike has all the street legal stuff, even turn signals. I still been hit 3 times. I ride in the street and always give cars/trucks the right of way letting them go around me... but they don't always move over far enough so they end up clipping me with the mirror or turning into you. there are bad drivers, some that actually hit parked cars and run up poles.
Regarding oiling the chain from exhaust, as far as I know the carbon/ash and heat from exhaust harms the chain links causing excessive wear and shortening the chain live. This I know from old motorcycle guy, never tried or seen this on a motorized bike. For the sake of experiment I guess it's worth trying, I let you know if I ever do.
Hi I live in Pollock Louisiana. Can I put over size rings in my 80cc 2cylclbike motor
Hello All..... I built a custom 80cc and had to CUSTOM bend the exhaust in order to clear "Leg Space". A bonus was that the exhaust oil blasted onto the chain while riding. Matter of fact, it lubed the chain so well that the master link came apart and the chain just slipped off to the ground. BTW> I was at 40 MPH. Talk about Dumb Luck with NO damage? Anyway, Just thought I would share this with you all and PLEASE don't run your bikes passed 50MPH !!! Mine does and it's NOT fun anymore at that speed.... Talk with you again, Phil
I highly suggest buying a high quality japanese chain. Would have saved me a lot of headache if someone told me lol
Looks like the pins were to the exhaust . I think to the intake were it supposed to be .
6:01 Thursday November 23 Happy Thanksgiving my motorized bike wasn't turning on properly i changed the spark plug turned on quickly was riding for a while the engine noise got low bike shut off tried to start back up nothing sound really low while i started walking the bike just tried to let the clutch on nothing i was pushing the bike with the clutch on bike was moving freely what up with that any knowledge out there
Good thing that replacement parts are cheap as as chips
I have a question dose the motor leak pill from the seal and my idol is running high and sometime it's hard to stop and my spark plug that came with the motor it's plastic not rubber and the plastics all corroded and cracked
I did put it together my cousin put it together
Hey, that last question caught my attention. On my Huffy Cranbrook, I have an El cheapo banana pipe, and it does just that. It does actually lubricate the pedal chain, unfortunately not the drive chain, but yes, it works great 👍👍
Oh sweet, thanks for letting us know :)
I got da huffy too.
I threw my motor on a 90's Trek farm bike, got it free at some farm. It is the most jank bike I've ever ridden, especially with a Seeutek PK66