The All-Encompassing Love Story of Dead Boy Detectives (Netflix Review) 🥰🌈👻🔍📚
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- Dead Boy Detectives is a supernatural horror detective-comedy television series based on the DC Comics characters of the same name by Neil Gaiman and Matt Wagner, starring George Rexstrew (Edwin Paine), Jayden Revri (Charles Rowland), Kassius Nelson (Crystal Palace), Yuyu Kitamura (Niko), Briana Cuoco (Jenny the Butler), Ruth Connell (the Night Nurse), Jenn Lyon (Esther), Lukas Gage (Thomas the Cat King), Michael Beach (Tragic Mick), Joshua Colley (Monty), David Iacono (David the Demon), and a special appearance by Kirby Howell-Baptiste (Death from Netflix's THE SANDMAN).
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No shade to this series, I love Neil Gaiman and can't wait to watch this, but please do a video Lockwood and Co. Netflix cancelled it after it's first season. I don't know if you've seen it, but the series is so good and it's what the actress Ruby Stokes (who originally played Francesca in Bridgerton) left to star in. The vibe of this show was so creepy, the acting was so good and there is a dedicated fanbase trying to get Netflix to commission a second season.
I CANNOT BELIEVE THIS IS GEORGE REXSTREW'S FIRST MAJOR ROLE. like. he was a scene stealer; every interview he seems like such an old wise soul; reminds me of a young Sir Ian Mckellen
I know, I looked him up and was shocked. He is such a good actor
He truly ate this role up! I hope he gets more seasons to play Edwin because I’m INVESTED! ☺️👻❤️🔥
That is why because he studied in an Arts school
I really hope it gets a season 2 it was a great story and such unique characters with great backstory and I swear if Netflix cancels they better watch their back
Edwin and Charles got to be the endgame, there's so many moments, hints and sparks that make it impossibly not to see them as becoming more than friends in the near future! I am really looking forward to the next seasons!! Netflix better renew this show
Literally the GAYEST tv show ever made and because of that it's fucking awesome
Edwin is the most intriguing character in the show for several reasons. He's a closeted gay boy from Edwardian England who falls in love with Charles and he was also sent to literal Hell for over 70 years. Since the show takes place in the same universe as The Sandman, there's potential for him to have interacted with Lucifer Morningstar.
i love this show soo much and my best episode is episode 7 i really like the scene where they were almost out of hell on the stairs and edwin confesses his love for charles, i was so scared that they'd mess up that scene so bad cause i was really interested in that side of the story but seeing charles tell edwin that he can't say that he feels the same way but there is no one else that he'd go to hell for made me cry cause the execution was just perfect and i really love the friendship they have with each other, i really can't wait for season 2 and i swear if netflix cancels this show i'm getting rid of my netflix account
Yesssssssss I love that affirmation that no matter what type of love it is right now, that there is an undeniable love between them! So sweet! Just an all-around love fest within that foursome-friendship group TBH!
@@LadyJenevia exactly 🥰🥰
Half way through the series and loving it so far. Love the world building, good example of getting people not familiar with the world orientated
RIGHT? My perspective is probably biased since I am already open-minded to fantasy storytelling/world-building but even so, they go to so many different places, encounter so many different creatures, and I didn’t have a hard time keeping up with what was going on. 👻🫶🏻
@LadyJenevia quite a few fantasy shows have lost me a couple of episodes in because I couldn't follow what was going on. I'm glad to find one I can actually follow, which is not trying to dumb it down for the audience
Great review! Also, I am with you in hoping Netflix gets a clue and renews this show *glares at the execs* I still haven't forgiven them for cancelling JatP, 1899, and Lockwood and Co.
Netflix has A LOT of ground to recover with its audience and actually renewing some new series would be a good place to start!
@@LadyJenevia it would be a great place to start!
I've also been considering Crystal and her arc, and I have some THOUGHTS. And, worst of all, ideas. And I'd like to see it done, but only if it's done well.
For instance, we could see a repeat of Crystal using herself as bait for entities that like to possess people, and her friends eventually call her on how she's essentially caught in a pattern of behaviours that leave her vulnerable to the kind of abuse David did, and this encourages her to actually deal with David (don't think I don't see the very heavy-handed metaphor of burying her problems instead of dealing with them). And by extension, this gives her the strength to confront her parents abuse of her.
I think the pattern of offering herself as bait could be set up over the course of a few episodes, but I think her confronting her abusers would need to happen in one episode. All the while, it is the unconditional love and support of her friends that brings her through it.
And that was an essay. That I have shortened, you're welcome. As I said, I have THOUGHTS.
i just wish they have at least 24 episode per season, i binge watched the whole season in 3 days. and if you’re familiar with buffy then you will see the similarity between these two shows and there are so much to play with. but i think netflix want to test the demand of the show before they produce more.
wasnt the librarian on the stairs of hell?
Ok, but is Lukas Gage in seriously all the things, or just the ones I watch? Also super happy to see Cam from Summer I Turned Pretty get to be a demon
I love that he’s perpetually booked and busy following the release of that INFAMOUS video of the director insulting his apartment during an audition. Working actors still aren’t paid enough but either way, it’s a nice turn around to a horrible situation.
Ruth Connell also played Rowena in Supernatural, and I am definitely getting similar vibes from the Night Nurse. I can almost imagine that this is where Rowena ended up, her version of Hell being middle management in the Afterlife.
Great Show! I really loved the cat king. First he is the villain but later he is a help to the group😸
I was worried when he threatened Edwin he’s stop playing nice but he just… never stopped playing nice. A real one.
The car king is the best part about this show I love him!
As someone quite familiar with the source material.
Like Sandman, it has been changed a lot due to different times and different media.
The original Dead Boys were perhaps 11-12 years old at the times of their deaths (first years in a boarding school.)
Well then I’m thrilled they’ve aged the characters up because I would’ve had absolutely ZERO interest in watching something with 11-12 year old protagonists. 😂
I haven't finished watching it yet, I'm wondering if their full origin story will still be in it's place in The Sandman series (which I'd prefer because it's one of my favorite stories), or if it'll be told here through flashbacks (boooo)
I absolutely LOVE all of the love stories in dead boy detectives. Not just the romantic plots but the friendships too. EDWIN AND NIKO????? Amazing, I live for their friendship. They are so cute. Niko and Crystal also have their moments and legitimately the scene where Niko "dies" was so heartbreaking because of Crystal and Edwin's acting. They have the sense of genuinly caring about Niko and it's really cute and wholesome and I love it and we need more representation of friendships like that.
Edwin and Charles have, by far, my favorite relationship. Like, it's so cute and gay and amazing and that scene when they were almost out of hell and Edwin was like "Charles, I Love You" AND CHARLES WITHOUT SKIPPING A BEAT WAS JUST LIKE "I love you too" Like? non-chalontely, "of course I love you, you're my bestfriend" BY FAR my favorite scene. There is a genuine sense of love emulating from both of them even if it is something to platonic. I WANT MORE DEEP PLATONIC CONECTIONS BECAUSE I WOULD GO TO HELL AND BACK FOR MY BESTFRIEND AND I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT I LOVE MY BEST FRIEND LIKE A SIBLING. Honestly even if they do just stay friends in futur seasons (please netflix I'm begging you) I honestly would not be mad because I just want more portrayals of friendships that transend all kinds of love. I also, at the same time, am rooting for them to get together. I just want more deep friendships between characters in media because friendship is really important.
Basically, I like the friendships between all the characters hehe.
Just finished binghewatching the series, and I loved it. Niko is my unanimous favorite character (although Edwin is a close second). She is so earnest and precious, just seriously the best character.
Also, really love the relationship between Charles and Edwin. It was nice to see how they met and that their relationship is still strong after 30 years together.
I am so excited to see where the series go, so I really hope there's a second season, and more to come afterwards. Please, let us have more adventures with the main four, Jenny, the Night Nurse and even the Cat King!
I really enjoyed this show?? Like it has a great premise, fun characters, and a fundamentally respectful queer story line. I was really suprised. The only thing, and I did really enjoy this in the first half, the plot moved at the absolute speed of light. Unfortunately it makes the last few episodes head whippingly quick paced.
I´m already concerned about a 2nd season because the views are not there apparently.
I hope Netflix might surprise us and actually allow a show to continue anyway.
They must know they have build up a reputation as a series graveyard, and that that is NOT good to buiild trust from your audience that it´s worth it to watch your shows.
Yeah, it is 100% netflix's fault that people aren't watching their shows, people don't want to emotionally invest in something slated for destruction. I bet if they quit playing coy and just announced a season 2, the viewership would skyrocket immediately.
@@mayaenglish5424 Atleast they are seemingly promoting it relatively well. I see a lot of posts by them about the show etc.
Really hope season 2 will happen, maybe even with low initial views. They must be able to recognize the potential to build a semi-big cinematic universe.
@@Beny763 Yeah That's the thing that gives me hope, it's link to Sandman and the Gaiman-verse-ness of it all. Having a Neil Gaiman property is a good look lately, business people should find that attractive, even if the numbers aren't quite what they initially want, or at least that's what I'm hoping.
Jennys axe murderer love interest was the woman sitting on the steps of Hell in Episode 7!
Exactly! You're so spot on! I really hope that we get more seasons!
Hi I’m here to leave a comment bc I’m going to come back after watching the show! Can’t wait to watch this and the interviews!
Much appreciated, I hope you enjoy! 👻👻
I am back. I ran through that show! I loveddd it. I actually felt so bad for Monty :(( on the swings looking at Edwin with the biggest ever heart eyes!! Going against Esther finch!! Also the magic eight ball telling Niko the same thing always. Did she shrink? Or did the dandelion sprites get bigger? Are they in Alaska?? Also the walrus man- I love him. With my whole heart. I’m so glad we got his story. My feelings are so disorganized but I loved this show!! I so hope it gets a second season- and I totally agree three would be good, especially for a company as allergic to renewing shows as Netflix lmao
Love the premise of this one! Glad to hear you really enjoyed. I'll be back to watch the spoilers soon 😊
Yay! I hope you have fun with the season! 👻
I binged the show this weekend and absolutely LOVED it! The characters were also one of the main drawing points for me, they seemed very fleshed out (even the side characters), making it easy to become invested in the story. I also 100 % agree with you on how satisfying it was to see Lilith snatch back her gift and come drag Esther away (and presumably drown her in the ocean now that she's mortal again?)
Regarding the psycho librarian, I'm not sure we'll get to see her cross paths with the boys again. She DID end up in hell, after all - though, granted, only on the winding staircase. So maybe she'll manage to escape like Edwin did.
I really do hope we'll get another season though, if only to find out what exactly happened with Niko. There was a body, so she's presumably dead, but she's also still around. Does that mean she's a ghost like the boys, or perhaps something different? I also had the feeling that seeing her name on the boys' case board was what finally drove the Night Nurse's suprior to offer the boys this sort of freelance position. She seemed intrigued by their work in general, but the fact that the camera focued on Niko's name caught my attention.
I'm also curious to see how Crystal's past would come into play in the next season. It does seem like she needs to make amends with quite a few people now that she's got her memories back and does not like what she found out. At the same time though, it seems quite clear that she was probably acting out as a result of her parents' neglectful nature. Their dismissive reaction to her phone call at least did not feel like parents who are tired of their child's destructive and disrespectful nature, but more like parents who have never really cared because they were too involved in their own lives. The kind of parents who would lead to a child acting out.
Found family is one of my favourite tropes and it seems like that is exactly what we're getting with this show. The core cast is becoming a family and I hope if we get another season (fingers crossed) they'll recover Niko as one of their members. Ideally I imagine they would discover she's still around somehow in episode one (perhaps at the end of it) and the rest of the season could center around getting her back from wherever she is. With some other cases strewn in.
Yeah they clearly set something up with the Dandelion Sprites and the trinket the Walrus gave to her but I want to see the reveal of how and in what way she is still around. 👀🤔
Great introduction of the show. Thank you. I wish I could watch it on netflix, but they decided I'm from the wrong country to do it. We'll see about that.
I haven't read the source material, but I'm got hooked up at the mention of merging of romance and investigation.
I’m sure you’ll find a way, that’s what most folks do when they want to watch something geoblocked nowadays. 🤭😆
Pssst: Use a vpn
@@KarlaMartinez-by7iz Thanks) I have four)
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She did pop back up but I think a ful ep about that would be too cliche and I like the way it went, unexpected. Great review though!
just leaving a comment to say that I've watched 2 eps, so will come back to watch the video once I've finished the rest
I love this so much, like a would really want to see a season 2
Me too!! 👻👻
I absolutely love the original Sandman story this is based on, so so excited by this spinoff.
Before we head into the SPOILERS! section I have to counter your comment of Netflix needing to make more series to take the places of final season series's (I don't think I marked that right), in bringing attention to your SOME LIKE IT HOT poster- someone at Netflix really needs to get them to greatly broaden their repertoire of classic American and European films. I mean, I would repeat the 1941 Beauty and the Beast frequently and pair it with some Cecile B Demille for a lovely double feature, but no one want to offer these accept maybe AMC, but I can't afford more than one streaming service so I don't even know if they do.
I could’ve sworn someone had done some sort of research or put figures out about how abysmally lopsided Netflix’s library is towards the more recent releases and less so for anything older. I’ve contemplated trying out Criterion because I’m OVER the bad libraries on the majority of streaming platforms. 😆
Well… after Netflix did justice with One Piece and that seemed impossible? Who knows what can be done? Now Apple TV has Neuromancer in progress, Dark Matter comes, Silo s2-3. Brandon Sanderson is still discussing his terms of contract so we are optimistic.
9:03 She was on the stairs in Hell! She's the one who screamed WHY AM I HERE?!?!?! Charles stopped to check on her because she was crying.
I really hope there's a season two.
Me too! 👻👻
I'm seriously debating watching sandman. Should I?
I love dead boys Netflix sandman amazing
Show comic book better
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SPOILERS FOR SANDMAN SEASON 2 I'm familiar with the Sandman comics and I'm pretty confident in saying that it would be likely for Charles and Edwin to appear, however briefly, in the second season of Sandman considering what's up next chronologically in the story from the comics. Hopefully we get more than just some recycled flashback scenes from DBD.
Did Niko become undead/zombie
I did like it but I wish it was less gory. The episode 3 horror just went way too far, and it just kept replaying over and over and over again with different camera angles. There's macabre, and then there's just gratuitousness. It makes it hard to re-watch the series, which I wanted to do to help boost viewing numbers, but it's just so gory. Also, I really wish they didn't indulge SO MUCH in the fickle teenage he-said-she-said romance. At one point, they stopped in the middle of a mission to have a "wait you like me? no i like you, you like him?" kind of conversation - it was so frustrating. Edwin had THREE love interests in 8 episodes! I didn't understand the friends-with-benefits thing with Crystal and Charles, it was so random. I was very happy that they ended up back in London because WA state was such a random location for this very British story. Overall, it was good. The actor that plays Charles is the best one, he's so charming!
One of the reasons I love this show is the love problems and I usually hate romance! but both guys are so attractive and I need more of them together. I would totally hit on Edwin too even tho I’m a girl😂Crystal kissing Charles had me rolling my eyes but everything rurned out good beteeen them thank God.
This show is aces!❤️🔥❤️
i continue to find the depiction of eastern/south east asians in the neil gaiman universe very problematic. either there is a lack of...(sandman, where death easily could have been an asian person considering the comics depiction) or in dead boy detectives asian characters that are very cliched and non desirable/sexual. niko s character is very cliched. manga reading, fish out of water, side character with no real inner life who ends her story like many p.o.c. have had to.
she is like the asian math nerd in sitcoms.
she functions like an alien...
whereas everyone else has deep emotional connections she is just tritagonist support.
this characterization of a p.o.c. is extremely problematic.
i do not feel myself represented in her.
she is a hurtful stereotype, an incomplete human experience, a joke.
i hope they will have better east/south east asian representation in season 2, but i am not counting on it. first they will try to make up for the serious lack of black male characters, (probably as a love interest for edwin?) before they will ever cast a male or female asian character as love interest. for some reason british media has great difficulties casting east/south east asian people as protagonists or love interests.
i d be lying if i said i am excited for season 2.
i liked season 1, but it is starting to sting and that hurt is nothing to look forward to.
i guess i just need to be grateful there is an asian character with lots of dialogue. progress is slow and i am well into my 30s now. i hope younger generations of asians will have western shows to look forward to in which they can see themselves be worthy of emotional, deep and intimate relations.
I'm sorry you didn't see yourself in Niko. I'm not Asian so I can't speak to the representation aspect, but for her characterisation and storyline, I thought her difficulty with dealing with the death of her father was really touching and impactful. I interpreted her obsessions with manga and brightness and romance as a coping mechanism, a front, a barrier which protected her from having to deal with her grief, like a shield against those feelings. We know she does this because we know she didn't want to contact her mother because that would mean actually feeling the grief. I thought it was a clever way to use the trope to subvert expectation and give Niko more depth in a limited amount of episodes. I found this interpretation impactful because I've definitely done the same when I've lost someone, I dove in to my favourite media and let it protect me from my feelings and isolated myself away from people who might make me have to feel it. It's also rare to see someone who is cheerful but is still undeniably grieving, grief in media tends to be so linear and simple, it was nice to see that one day you'll be all smiles and the next you can barely leave the house. And seeing as Charles does something similar with his feelings towards his father, it made sense that Edwin would be so charmed by both Niko and Charles' cheer and optimism considering how devoid of optimism Edwin was after decades in Hell, it's a nice character detail that says a lot about all three of them.
First seasons are always tricky and tend not to explore their characters too deeply, especially when it's an ensemble (I mean, we didn't even know Crystal's full name until one of the last episodes and she's a main character). I hope we get to see a deeper exploration of Niko in season 2 (if Netflix gives us a season 2 which is annoyingly never guaranteed), especially now that it seems she's gone through an undefined change at the end.
And this is completely subjective, but as someone with a ton of experience working in comedy, I have to commend Niko's actor who has impeccable comedic timing, the way she infuses some of her really innocuous lines with comedy was so impressive (she made me laugh with the way she took a staccato half beat between the words "yeah" and "okay", like that is SKILL).
As for The Sandman I remember when the show was announced and before the Oscar nomination made her involvement a complete improbability, I saw loads of people fan cast Stephanie Hsu as Delirium and now I can't see anyone else playing the role so fingers crossed we get a really talented, comedic actress like Stephanie Hsu to play Delirium when we meet her in season 2. Also, not sure if I'm the right person to say this but I don't think Death is the right character to claim as miscast or a missed opportunity, Black British actors have a serious lack of opportunities to work in the UK, just like Asian actors, I mean there's a reason most of Kirby's credits prior to Sandman were for shows in America, and there are plenty of characters played by privately educated rich white actors to choose from in Sandman where an Asian actor could've easily been cast instead.
Cliche or not her character development was still well done
Did we even watch the same show? look I'm not Asian so I can't speak to that, but Niko was NOT a joke, she was a lovely human being and was kind and caring and thoughtful and her deep friendship with Edwin was a highlight of the show. ALL the characters are fish out of water! As for being non sexual, well it's only the first season, who knows what will happen later, Spoilers for the end of season 1, but it's pretty clear we aren't done with her character. The luck charm the walrus man gave her (For being the ONLY PERSON TO LISTEN TO HIM AND BE KIND TO HIM) clearly did something to save her so we'll definitely be seeing her again. And this show is focusing on all aspects of love platonic, sexual, and romantic. Why is platonic love inherently less important than sexual love to you? Why are teenage girls not allowed to like stereotypical teenage girl things? Manga and Scooby doo and stuff like that is extremely popular for a reason. Also how does she have no inner life? She's struggling with the death of her father, and sad about her mom sending her away, and distracting herself from her sadness with things that make her happy, like love and joy and spending time with her new friends. I'm sorry you don't get to see yourself represented on screen much, but that doesn't make everything that isn't you automatically bad.
i really feel edwins character on a personal level. sometimes i feel like the plucked-out-of-time one in my friend group, like theyre all living in the present and im stuck in the past 💀 im over here still struggling and repressing like theres no tomorrow while the rest of them are openly out and happy. watching edwin has really made me face some hard things about myself that i just straight up ignored in the past. and this might be a little silly, but seeing his character progression also gives me a tiny bit of hope 🥹
I loved the show and hope there is a season 2
Let's hope for the best! 👻
With it’s already booming success and the fact that the sandman is confirmed to be getting a second season I think it’s likely