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- 1985 Caught in the Draft
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“God only makes so many of these people”
I love that quote because it sums up that sometimes you go with guy who might not look the part but you get them on the field and they just make plays, and Bruce Smith certainly did that
I think about it a lot and often times its right
RIP Bill Fralic.
@Matt Joseph Quite a few players died from the Falcons and Braves from cancer. The blame was Atlanta Fulton Co. stadium.
They need to do more years of "Caught in The Draft" I love it!
Bernie, Byner, and Mack bring tears to my eyes. They deserved two super bowls. Life is so hard.
Well at least Byner ended up getting one with the Redskins in 91
@@criscase6632 and Kosar with Dallas
@@AlexHernandez-bb9ok oh yeah I forgot about that he backed up Aikman in 92-93
I love watching these Caught in the draft videos!
Great stuff NFL Films. More great content for the NFL History nerds!
@Marco Jordan ignore them, they're bots
Marino became the bar for quarterbacks and still is to this day. Imagine him playing in this era with a friendly passing game.
Marino is the GOAT
A non cheating goat
@@rivercap1986 *GOAT To never win the big one!!!!* c;
Should've drafted Marino
Come on you can't be the goat with 0 zero none not even 1 championship, it's like saying Charles Barkley is the goat come on now that's just ridiculous!!!!!
The Refrigerator scored the touchdown The Sweetness deserved.
RIP Bill Fralic RIP Chris Doleman
No quarterbacks taken in the first round. Two in the first five rounds
Can't even imagine having something like that happening today
NFL films should definitely not pin this comment but you wish and you keep trying
@@TeddyBelcher4kultrawidehe's just providing fun info, you're being weird
Agree. At this point the fan & media speculation over QBs is insane but media missed on Mahomes. The 70s Steelers, 80s 49ers, 90s Cowboys & the Patriots built their dynasties ignoring media arrogant media demands (although it might have contributed to Steelers Noll missing on Marino).
Looking back, 1984-1988 was a pretty dry period for QB's (Paul Zimmerman wrote an "APB for QB's" article for the Sports Illustrated 1988 NFL Season Preview).
@@r.williamcomm7693 There were unfounded whispers about Marino having a drug problem at the time. Marino did say it was good for him to get out of Pittsburgh, but there's no doubt the Steelers should've drafted him.
Remember kids, if Buddy Ryan gives his opinion on something that requires thought, do the opposite of his opinion.
Well in fairness, Perry was not worth the first in terms of his ability as a defensive lineman. He was serviceable, maybe good at times, but was never truly worth that draft position
How many other picks did they have in that draft though, and where were they in the pecking order?
@@bryancoats5328 they had eight picks after Perry. 2nd (49), 3rd (78), 4th (105), 7th (190), 8th (217), 9th (250), 10th (273), 11th (302). Except for their 4th round pick (Kevin Butler, K), none of the other Bears picks that year were much of contributors.
Great anecdote about Kay Stephensen and the Bills and ton of respect for him for doing the right thing for the good of the long term franchise and not the quick fix.
I think that Bruce smith is becoming one of my favorite players, so soft spoken and kind but so violent and a complete ham on the field.
Jerry going to 49ers was a gift from God.
Fun fact- in round 4 of the 1985 NFL Draft, the Vikings drafted a wide receiver named Buster Rhymes
Pretty solid kick returner for a few years, too
played in the CFL for the blue bombers won the 76th grey cup
Better fact. Andre Reed was the next pick in the draft.
Buster Rhymes had ONE season of "solid " kick returning, in 1985 he led the league in number of kicks returned and kick return yards but he did not lead the league in average yards per kick return, he played in 5 games in 1986 and he had 9 kick returns. He played in 20 games during his 2 year NFL career and he caught a total of 8 passes for 149 yards and 0 TD's. He was as solid as the contents of a balloon.
Yal bullshitting ???
@@davidcobb2693 😯😯😯
If I see another Uber Eats ad I’m going to smash my phone
Hershel Walker is a beast till this very day.
Bill Fralic made another WWF appearance in 1993 when he (now as a Detroit Lion), several other athletes, and a few WWF wrestlers all tried but failed to bodyslam then-champion Yokozuna on board the USS Intrepid on the Fourth of July.
Thanks very much for posting. My thoughts and prayers to William Perry 🙏 He was such a exciting and fun player to watch.
Nfl film the best CZcams channel on the planet of earth
We love you, NFL Films!!
We're going to need a lot more of these
Wow kc Stevenson did the right thing for the franchise willing to sacrifice his career for the future of the franchise and to do the right thing and created a dynasty in Buffalo and an afc powerhouse
More videos like this! I love the nostalgia!
Bernie walked in dressed like an 80’s adult actor
These 80s hair styles and garb are killing me 😂
What a great film. Thank you for sharing and caring!
Absolutely love these !
Ray Childress had a nice career. 5x All-Pro. 5x Pro Bowler. The Bills got it right. But Childress was no bust.
He just didn't last long enough. He was a very good player.
@@robmitchell3039 the oilers could not get past the bills and the broncos
Colgate Qb says he was cut out of the same Mold as Randall Cunningham LMFAO! What the F'k are you smoking Pal?
I’ve met a guy who was in the 1985 draft and was the 1st round 20th pick named Darryl Sims and I got his autograph too he’s a great guy!
The Steelers #1 pick that year.
The legendary Kosar fro.
Best of its' type since Billy Ficca from Television
Raiders pass on Hershel...what a Raider thing to do.
When you have Marcus Allen and eventually Bo Jackson, passing on Walker doesn’t seem like bad idea.
@@thehandsomeone8369 Yeah, they were fine (Allen was also on his way to a 1759 yd 1985 season): what the Raiders needed then was a good young QB (Marc Wilson? Nah:-) and more O-linemen, otherwise the team was pretty loaded.
Thank you nfl films this is gold !!!
Torn between two lineman,
feeling like a fool,
loveloving both of them,
is breaking all the rules, lol.
We need more people like ourselves, who think of whacked out funny stuff like this. There's not enough of us.
@@algini12 after the first 6 picks, it was lots of great linemen to choose from.
I love these.
Upload all of these please.. and make more of them
Please post the 2004, 1995, 1975, and 1965 Caught in the Drafts please.
The 1985 NFL draft can be summed up in 2 words JERRY RICE! The 🐐 GOAT
Marino would be passing 6,000+ yards in this era.
Fr guys roll our of bed and throw for 4000 yards
One constant with all these Caught In The Drafts: Paul Zimmerman not knowing what he is talking about.
Dr. Z was Mel Kiper before Mel Kiper. Remember, he hated Miami drafting Marino in 1983 too.
Minnesota always had the reputation of being cheap. I wasn't surprised when Bernie Kosar decided to come home, best decision Ernie Accorsi made with the supplemental draft.
Minnesota hasn’t always done great with the draft, but this might be the shrewdest move I think any GM has ever made, accorsi was brilliant
He learned from mistakes in Baltimore
@@dreskola5852 he didn't make a mistaken in Baltimore. He drafted elway even tho elway refused to played for the colts. The owners traded elways away. Ernie resign as soon as the owner traded elways. If you watch the 30 for 30 documentary elways to marino you the owner told him not to draft elways but he did anyways
@@xuevang7261 and there lies the mistake you don’t take a guy that told you not to draft him.
@@dreskola5852 ernie have said many times over the year that if he had to do that draft again. He'll still pick elways again so no he didn't learn that you don't pick a guy who don't wanna play for you
@ 02:20 'The Owner traded Elway away' - Accorsi makes it sound like only an idiot would do that. Elway said he would play Baseball (for the Yankees) rather than play for Baltimore so they had no choice except to trade him.
Well, they could’ve got a better haul from Oakland than Denver offered.... but y’know Rozelle being the shitbag he was wouldn’t allow that
@@philthornton1382 Rozelle killed the proposed 3-way trade between the Colts, Raiders, and Bears, which would've brought Elway to the Raiders, absolutely. He was pissed at the lawsuit Al Davis was putting on the NFL, and you have to remember, the Raiders had gotten Marcus Allen in 1982. Imagine, Elway and Marcus in the same backfield? Rozelle didn't want to put on a fake smile and give Al 3 more Lombardi Trophies.
Accorsi wanted to trade Elway to Dallas. The Cowboys were going to give the Colts Danny White, 2 other starters, and 2 first-round draft picks for Elway, but Colts owner Robert Irsay arrogantly nixed that trade and made his own deal with Denver.
Back when the NFL wasn't the No Fun League
Go pack go smashmouth era
@@ericpackers1700 Dam straight!
The Jets collapsing from 7-2 leading the division to getting rolled by the Patriots in the wild card was fun for someone, but not for me lol
Who else loves the nfl draft
It’s like one of my fav sports events to watch every year
Ron Wolf sounds like John Goodman to the T
Fun fact in 1979 in the 3rd round the Cowboys did not take the top player on their board which they always did...they took a need TE Doug Cosbie and passed on QB Joe Montana. In this draft they moved up and had only one player in mind. They wanted WR Jerry Rice and the 49ers traded one pick in front of Dallas and took rice.
I was about to say I didn't know busta rhymes played football then I rewind it.
in Gerald Eskenazi’s book “Gang Green” the Jets apparently were going to pick either Jerry Rice or Al Toon. The Jets felt that Jerry Rice was better suited for Grass (for whatever reason it isn’t specified) so they selected Al Toon instead. So if the Jets stayed at Shea stadium, they would have selected Jerry Rice instead of Al Toon.
Lol that's so Jets. I didn't realise when I picked them as a kid that they would provide me with so much tragic comedy every. single. season.
DAMMIT I THOUGHT THIS WAS A NEW EPISODE...
Bud Grant should have picked up Flutie. His speed would have been ideal.
Bernie was so smart he worked the system to his advantage
I love watching these, takes me back to a young kid who was so excited to see who was coming out to be the next great thing in the league! However, I didn't knew it then, Paul Zimmerman, who was around forever & has a background of being the go to guy on the drafts? How is it he's wrong every single draft on his analysis!? Mel Kipper has followed in his footsteps to this day!
As a 12 yr old I remember things were just simpler to hats 4 sure but didn't have much either
Can you put MORE COMMERCIALS IN THIS???!!
Not much on Bruce Smith ,so I'll add one .Bruce had never heard of Buffalo,he thought he was going to NYC . Next the weather hit him and he was sick to his stomach about it .The Bills took him out to eat and he ate 50 chicken wings .this was considered good in the day ,as Bruce balloned up to over 320 .he played at 265-270 once he figured out nutrition and health. The Bills were notoriously cheap ,worse than the Vikings ,Ralph never signed another #1 in the draft Ohio St. Tom Cousineau whom went to the CFL b4 Bills traded him to his hometown Browns.
An important part of Bill Walsh's genius was knowing what player to pick but how to use him.
I find Pete Rozelle's mistake of saying that William Perry is from Cleveland and not Clemson kind of neat, since The Fridge's younger brother Michael Dean was late drafted by Cleveland.
30:03 not many would that’s the reason so many franchises are ruined good for them
Bill fralic had a great agent lol
Al Toon was so good but he got hurt so often as did Brown. Sad about the potential unrealized because of injuries
You could build an entire league out of guys who were so good but just got derailed by injuries
@@brandonmaddox4862 Very unfortunate. Plenty of guys just can't hack it. But I feel for those that never really got the chance with injuries
Al toon was special
@@je9212 great hands, anticipation and movement, deserved a more decisive QB
"And then became a pro bowl tight end for their arch rival." That made me grin (24:10)
Tight End*
@@namesurname7172 bruh I hate autocorrect
2:03 this man has one of the best raised eyebrow faces of all time
Bruce smith looked about 40 in this draft
I always forget how soft-spoken Bruce Smith is
Man, that contract that Fralic got for life was genius
Bill Walsh almost drafted the WR that went to Cincy.
Al Toon would have fit well with The 49ers.
@@flexiblestrategist9922 Toon was great. Injury issue though.
Toon, Brown, and Rice were all excellent. Two of them had injury problems.
@@robmitchell3039 If it wasn't for injuries ruining the careers of Toon and Brown, 1985 could've been remembered like the 1983 draft, only it would be the draft of wide receivers, not quarterbacks.
That wr was rookie of the year. He had a better rookie season than jerry
Kosar was great it took elway to have the drive to stop him and a fumble.
Wow every one of the top 5 made at least one Pro Bowl. Pretty good class
Busta rhymes and buster rhymes were the same guy
Cincy could’ve had Jerry Rice 😳
What’s amazing is the NFL still hasn’t learned that you can’t cut your staff and players as soon as they make a mistake. If you do that, other teams will pick them up. And after they’ve shaken off the nerves those players and staff you had no faith end with absolutely dominant. This scenario happens over and over and over again.
When was BeBe drafted for the Bills? He was a great receiver next to A Reed. Bebe should be in the HOF I believe .. He was a great part of the Bills road to their Super Bowls.
If Walsh had his choice of WR's he would have taken Eddie Brown!
That 2nd pick is still confusing.. Houston traded it then got skipped over when Minnesota's time expired..then Minnesota traded it.. wth!
The fridge was fast
AL TOON was on his way to the Hall of Fame.if not for Ken o brien throwing those floaters to toon causing concussions and retirement.
Real talk. Imagine if the Jets had drafted Marino (ohlet'snotgothereagain)
@@MrMmnngghh Dan Marino, Wesley walker Al Toon, mickey shuler, freeman McNeil, Johnny Hector oh boy 🫣🔥 I wish
crazy how many teams were afraid to draft Flutie
At the time, it really wasn't. the NFL mindset of what a "proper" QB was, and Flutie didn't fit that mindset. If Flutie had come along the same time as Vick or even Steve Young, teams would've been more eager to draft him.
Even teams that had him were reluctant to play him. His whole career was a struggle to play, and he was a very good, maybe even great quarterback.
@@robmitchell3039 as a CFL fan he was our gain as he was the gretzky of cfl football. His NFL record though as starter was always 9 to 10 wins a season on some really bad Patriots and bills teams
@@thomasdorst7358 he's an all time great in the CFL, that's for sure.
What’s a Steve Calabria?
Fralic, the NFL Bobby Bonilla.
I dont get it?
Never mind I got it, talking about his contract. SInce Fralic's was first you should have said Bonilla the MLB Bill Fralic!
That was quite the haul the Bills got - for a player they weren't going to fight for to get -- Browns def. overpaid. But they did get what they wanted.
5:24
Well, I'm sure this was the last time Mike Lynn got played in the issue of a trade.../s
Boom
OMG, what a bunch of babies.
CUNNINGHAM WAS UNLV WHAAAAAAAT
Perry was Clemson unreal
Is there any film of Zimmerman where he he gives an opinion where he wasn't wrong?
I'm dying to find out how Ernie became aware of that rule
27:21 for the exotic pick of the draft
@ 1:51 im offended that you start playing cartoon, circus, junkyard, and hubcaps music when he started talking and the Cleveland Browns!
Only reason why they thought Jerry Rice was a six round pick because he came out of a HBCU... sad!
My brother played at Grambling. He was a G man. Eddie Robinson and Doug Williams was his coach. He was told he would go in the 6th round because he played at an HBCU. He went undrafted and was an undrafted Free Agent. Doug wouldn't vouch for him.
Historically, HBCU don’t play the same level of competition as other D1 schools. It still happens today with players who play for D1AA schools like Delaware, Villanova, North Dakota St, etc.
Laces out DAN!!!
Man Buster Rhymes was good, while it lasted.
1984 PLEASE!
84 draft is weak no hall of famer from that draft
Why cant this type of stuff happen these days?
These people really acting like Doug Flutie could've been taken as the 1st QB. In his own Football Life a reporter asked Flutie to his face how he'll feel likely not getting drafted. Nobody was gonna put Flutie high on their boards cause of his height.
There was more to the Jerry Rice thing. Dallas wanted Rice badly. They knew that Rice ran a SLIGHTLY slower 40 but also knew that he ran the same time IN PADS. Further, Dallas felt as if no one else knew about Rice. I doubt the 49ers drafted Rice because Bill Walsh saw him on TV. In the Dallas circles, it was thought that a scout inadvertently leaked information on Rice to the 49ers. Thus, Dallas ended up with another bust #1 pick.
Bills Mafia
Raider nation
The Bills could have had Jerry Rice AND Andre Reed in the same draft. Arrrgh. Imagine that duo.
But then they wouldn't have had Bruce Smith on defense.
@@Tyrunner0097 How so? They picked first and got Bruce Smith. They picked Derrick Burroughs in the first round as well at 14th. Jerry Rice got drafted at 16th. They could have snatched up Rice, kept Smith, and picked Andre Reed later.
@@markminter6312 exactly they could've traded down like they did for burroughs and picked Rice instead
No bro you weren't cut from the same mold, nice try Colgate.