The First Settlers of Polynesia
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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
- In this video we discuss the first ancient mariners that settled the islands of the Pacific Ocean. The Lapita, the ancestors of modern day Polynesians, as well as the later peoples who settled eastern parts of Remote Oceania.
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I am a product of these voyagers from Micronesia & the man who revived wayfinding for the rest of the Pacific was from my island group.
Yes, next I see Aunty Pua K. from Hilo, I'll say; long time no see, I thought you went back to Nukualofa!
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He’s back baby! Quality over quantity every time. Every time.
I think your video is one of the best on Polynesia, as my mother is full Maori and I live in the UK it is so helpful for my understanding of my people.. Roy.
Thanks Roy, I’m really glad you think so!! Appreciate it.
North 02 sent me. Can't believe I haven't seen your work before, but I'm glad now that I have! You earned yourself another sub, sir. Excellent documentary; I can't wait to watch your others! 🙂
@@Joshua-bl3hs thanks dude appreciate that!
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As an Aotearoa/New Zealand resident of fifth-generation European descent, I found this an excellent presentation, up-to-date and consistent with what I have come to know over seven decades, as opposed to the disproven old stuff I was told at school.
@@flamencoprof really glad to hear that!
Yes @flamencoprof Pacific history taught by Pākeha teachers all those years ago was so focused on pre colonial guilt that now the facts are coming out that so many crimes were committed under the guise of "colonization is good for everyone"
@@michaelhowell8412 "Crime" is a European concept. Don't get too PC. Attacking and eating selected members of another community was going on well before the European "criminals" arrived. But some Europeans were biased by the concept of the "noble savage" and chose to overlook such things.
Have a read of The Adventures of Kimble Bent, an e-book free to download from Project Gutenberg.
North 02 recommended your channel, it was good shit. Subbed now
This is so awesome!!! Some new information as well.
Great video! North 02 says hi. 😃
Very enjoyable and informative video, however, I'm wondering about the tale of moa bones left by early Maori being used as fertilizer by European settlers. I haven't been able to find any evidence of that although I see you have a reference. A few bones found in middens from around 1400-1500 but not huge quantities. Would be really interested in finding that reference.
You're one of my favorite channels - glad to see a new video!
All the Pacific islands, Hawaii, Rapanui, etc ..
Are the highest peaks of what is the sunken Continent of Lumerria...
I’m kinda jealous that you got to go to Tonga !! At 20 years of age, I worked on a factory-trawler in the Bering Sea staffed or crewed by workers from around the globe. T’was there that I met a Tongan guy, a Samoan guy, and a Hawaiian man all in the galley at the same time. Instead of sweatpants, the islander guys started wearing their local-group cloth coverings when changing out of rain-gear + work clothes. They could say some things to eachother that were mutually intelligible and that totally blew my mind. Public school hadn’t taught me that part of Samoa was U.S. occupied. The Hawaiian guy was older and had been to war before far from his home. He had respect from everybody & that makes me suspect that he was so high-status that he might’ve been fluent in the special sort of Hawaiian language reserved for people of king-type grouping and serious story-telling. Maybe that’s why he could say certain things and be understood by the Tongan guy and the Samoan guy. (?)
That’s an awesome story though- what port were you trawling out of? I’m in King Salmon right now, next door to Naknek which is a big Bristol Bay port. Funnily enough I met a half-Hawaiian half-Tongan guy here, who almost fell out of his chair when I started talking to him in Tongan. I’ve definitely noticed a lot of mutual intelligibility, for instance the quote at the start of the video is Hawaiian: “he wa’a he moku, he moku he wa’a.” But in Tongan you’d say something like “Ko e vaka e motu, Ko e motu e vaka.” There’s a speech register for talking with nobles and royalty that I don’t know at all called lea faka’eiki but I couldn’t say how that might help with mutual intelligibility.
@@TheTel the creator of this awesome video saw my comment and is in Alaska !?!? I was up there in the mid 90s working for American Seafoods on the Pacific Scout (destroyed) and the American Empress (sold to the Brazilian Coast Guard). We’d come & go from Dutch Harbor but one time the smaller boat stopped in the Priblov Islands, and I got swarmed by Arctic foxes. At the very end of seasons, we’d steam to Seattle. Wow: this is such a cosmic-coincidence: I’m super interested in ethnology & ethnography, but I’m not a professional, it’s something I’d love to go back to school for because when I’m working abroad coworkers & community present as excellent informants, and it’d be nice to capitalize on that since I’m muddling through languages and modalities different from my upbringing anyhow- respect & appreciation to you, good Sir !
Excellent vid. I didn't know kumera came from south america!
Fantastic video! As another person from Aotearoa I really appreciate how up to date your information and really thank you for your sincere and respectful approach! Very impressed by your pronunciation of Pacifica words and names as well! Every time you upload I'm shocked you don't have more subscribers and views because I really think you're one of the best out there!
Thanks, I really appreciate it! I had an advantage for this video in that I speak Tongan, so I hope it carried over to related languages somewhat.
Great video Sebastian, I'm signed up!
Dropped in from North O2. Great content!
Figure I’ll stick around and subscribe.
Thanks! Hope you find some videos that match your interests!
Greatest navigators of all time Polynesia baby
I feel like this channel is going to blow up within a year. Ill subscribe to help out. Thanks!
@The Tel creates videos that are gorgeous, sparkling gems.
Learned a lot 👍
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Excellent video. It is really quite insulting how it used to be assumed, that the settlement of Polynesia was by accident.
We are in a state of evolving knowledge. Just like our ancestors may have made assumptions about the nature of the world. We currently have a knowledge of the nature of the world and it may prove to be wildly off. I wouldn’t get too hung up on misplaced information that people had that was wrong. We make mistakes. It’s how we grow. There was nothing malicious about it
It could never be by accident. Finding land in the vast Pacific Ocean is like trying to find a needle in a haystack.
What's insulting about it? So many events in history occurred by accident.
@@Traderjoealthough I agree with what you’re saying in principle, in this case, it was sort of insulting and malicious because it stemmed from the racist notion that “those primitive brown people could not possibly have been the world’s greatest navigators.” Thor’s voyage on Kon Tiki and theory of colonization by drift from South America was taught in schools for decades. Imagine how insulting that would be for a proud navigating culture with a rich oral history whose whole identity is based on the ocean.
With all that being said, scholars agree that some of the islands were colonized “accidentally” by pacific wayfinders blown off course by gales. But the point remains that the foundation of drift theory was that white anthropologists refusal to accept the incredible prowess of what Pacific Islanders could accomplish without compass and sextant
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Hello fellow Peace Corps Volunteer! I just found your channel and it is facinating!
@@alexandermold8586 thanks glad you like it! Where were you a volunteer?
@@TheTel currently I am in Cameroon. Though I am a response volunteer
@@alexandermold8586 oh that's awesome, what part of Cameroon? I'm actually making a video about the ancient Bantu Expansion right now, which originated in southern Cameroon from what I understand
@@sebastianwetherbee9465 I am in Southern Cameroon, specifically Ebolowa. I have tried finding local resources about this region's history but aside from two books at the local bakery, I haven't found anything sadly. I also have not been able to find any archaeological sites here. There are some in the North but that is off limits for safety
Whats crazy to me isn't that they colonized these islands, but that they did it with primitive outrigger canoes. Basically a canoe, with a support log a meter or two on one/both sides of the boat, attached with wood struts. Basically a canoe with pool noodles. Over the ocean. Madness. E: or double hulls, i found out. Basically, two canoes with some distance between them, but a plank connecting them on top.
I dunno man I’ve watched an 8-year old Polynesian kid husk a coconut using his teeth, and crush a venomous centipede barefoot. I’ve played a lot of tackle rugby with Tongan people. I would not doubt their ability to swim if they hadn’t had their outrigger canoes.
Please research about the vessels. Cannot believe they are still regarded as simple little outriggers
@@tatimoa I've seen recreations of them. They're not simple little outriggers, but in the end, they're still outriggers. Really well made ones
Hi from North 02
Possibly, or perhaps likely that previous settlers on Pacific islands would have been wiped out by a mega-tsunami, thus leaving a vacuum for refugees from Chinese Imperial expansion leaving in seacraft from the mainland. Odds are that another tsunami will eventually repeat the cycle. The evidence for this hypothesis is in huge boulders flung high above sea level on some Pacific islands.
The Tui Tonga would have somewhat banned the eastward expansion at the time they were in power, and when the Tui Tonga fell to the Tui Manu’a, that gave the opening for eastward expansion of what was known as the Ma’oli of Mulufanua/Manano - who eventually became the Maohi of Havaiki, Maoli of Hawaii , Māori of Rarotonga, Aotearoa, and Rapa Nui.
Fell to the Tui Manua? Tui Tonga comes from the Tui Manua.
Please read the book "the Seven Daughters of Eve" from the international renowned DNA-expert prof. Bryan Sykes. In this book there is a a chapter concerning the origin of the Pacific Peoples.
All from Ancient Tongan Lapita Origin Settlement 😊
This is great, than you.
Within that triangle was Lumerria..it was destroyed, an now the seafloor ....
263k ya ...
Makes you wonder why the French were really out there 💣 the Pacific Ocean floor all those years.
Here before polynesian science say they're from south america, landed in antartica and we wuz everything and went to the moon.
Your ancestors were pink people aye😂
We know we have connection to the americas and it shows on alot of our islands..dont talk for us we dontt need whit people to re write our history you already corrupted it.
@@GrandM4R371-p5o I'm not even close to white
Rapanui is the highest peaks of the part of Lumerria that survived, the island of Mu ...
the Ancient Ancestral Home of Today's Maori an the Japanese pp
These Maori an Japanese fled to Hollow Earth...
Other survivors fled to what today is Sth America today the American Continent ..
11.5k ya ...
@North02 sent me👋
Rapanui survived the destruction of Lumerria, an was submerged in the Genises Floods,
11.5k ya ...
Tongan - KAINGA (extended fam)
Samoan - AIGA (family) …
7th generation descendant of Fletcher Christian and Maimiti. We have lost most of our culture and only have a few true tahitian words left in our dialect.
That’s an amazing heritage. Its very sad to hear about the loss of language speakers though, I hope there are efforts to preserve what is left, though I know that’s easier said than done.
I've been living on Kauai Hawaii for 16 years now and I'm shocked that the archeological community ignores what can be found all over the island. Your title is a little misleading. It should have said "re-settled".
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The Wichman family run the Kauai historic society and are a prominent family on the island.
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When I say Kauai is covered with ruins, I mean RUINS. They are so old they almost look natural. Two temples have been found in 300' deep water between Kauai and Niihau. There's a story about a gentle giant named Puni who lived on Kauai and would sculpt the cliffs. There's still thousands of acres of ancient terracing that has survived.
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The Lapita polynesian, especially the Maori languages .. have similarities..
An are Ancient Greece language..32k ya...
So is the Japanese ..
Altho' neither is 💯%
Both came out of Hollow Earth simultaneously..
So this is where bongo drums come from
1. An ancient city has been found in Tonga with ground penetrative radar.
2. I know Polynesians with ancient ansestry from the America's.
I think the Tongan city thing you're thinking of is the pair of papers I cite in the video. As far as Polynesians with ancestry from the Americas, that should also be about another paper I cite.
When you look at the words used for things like canoe and paddle, they all come from Asia. It’s only the few words like kumara that are from the Americas. Why ancient Polynesian people would get as far as Rapa Nui and then go that’s it mates there’s nothing past here seems unlikely.
“wa’a”= “va’a”
You lack purpose; mission; tribal ties. Kinship.
Excellent work. Mālo le saíli ámakaga ò ẞămoa ma le aku Polegi. 🫡).