War Thunder Bf 109F-4 | Best Bf 109 For The BR?
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0:00 - Pros and Cons
0:32 - Fighting
13:58 - Thanks for Watching!
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Is the Bf109F4 the best Bf109 for its BR?
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Manual of the F-4 recomendation: only 1 minute of WEP
Adam and the rest of the M.E.C. users: yes
Lmao!
Oh yes, MEC is really useful for this flying nuclear reactor just like the Ki-44!
In SB yes you can WEP more than 1 min, but it will left you vurnerable with overheat engine and swarming angry spitfires on your 6. Personally I do 1 min WEP with 100% rads open then proceed at 1.15 ata to 4.5km alt in F4/trop
@@AdamTheEnginerd Great video, Adam. I have questions on MEC: I tried 40~60% pitch on 109F4 when climbing. It turns out that the engine didn't overheat at all. What is the trade-off for using 40~60% pitch over the auto-controlled pitch, and do you recommend using 40~60% pitch on 109F4?
@@hw1862 You lose a lot of RPM and hence power, so it's not worth it.
Enemy: Brother
Adam: *SISTER*
lol lmao.
Hahahaha was funny ngl.
Definitely lol'd at that
Time for this legend has finally come
The plane?
@@AdamTheEnginerd he meant you returning to making videos 🥴
That prop pitch airbrake was nice :)
I agree!
the what?? can you explain please
@@ZhaoDrek he modified his prop pitch angle to slow down the plane. This had the same effect as an actual airbrake. Google "prop pitch" and you'll understand. :)
You can use it to slow down to during landing too
me as prey of AdamTheEnginerd : pressing all the buttons to escape
AdamTheEnginerd : he is trying to gain speed , terrain dogfight and baiting himself
Haha!
I had no idea why I was getting so many kills in this plane. It’s really amazing plus has fast velocity guns making it super good to aim
I wouldn't say fast, probably slightly above average.
Honestly the best ASMR content on YT, takes pure talent to make something so entertaining without saying a single word.
Thanks for the praise!
This is my most used plane of all time, back in the day i got a talisman on it and grinded all 6 necessary tier 4 planes in one night with this beast.
Before they changed the gunpods this thing was INSANE
Lol nice.
Thanks adam I really like this style of video with no commentary, allows me to focus on the gameplay and listen to my own music while watching. Keep the vids coming also would like to see a ta154 video.
My pleasure! It's on my list!
I was suspicious about making it into his video. Saddly on the defeated side. Seeing your name made me kinda nervous :D. But good game. o7
Good game o7!
@@AdamTheEnginerd what does o7 mean?
@@MiSt3300 It makes a salute (o is the head and 7 is the arm and hand).
My favorite plane in the game (and favorite WW2 plane as well)! Such a joy to fly, I feel like it’s a perfect balance between engine power, speed, and maneuverability.
Thanks to the fact that it’s lighter than the G models with only slightly worse climb, even I was able to carry a match in a deliberate uptier with 3 friends flying 109 G-10s. Also the overheating is kind of fun to manage with MEC. Lastly, the GLORIOUS GERMAN AIR BRAKE!
Yup works well in uptiers!
Its just an OP plane. Heavily biased and not true to specs. For instance. The p47 was the fastest diving prop fighter plane of ww2. That is a well known fact. Yet in this game a bf109 can out dive a p47 which is just wrong.
@Bilbo Fappins Given what I have seen in game I don’t really believe that. At 24,000ft my optimum performance alt in a p47, flying at 405mph, with a bf109 .98 below me and can somehow pull up and gain on me while I maintain a straight line and yet the bf109 can catch me and shoot me down while it pulls up. Also don’t believe the dive. Start a 5-10 degree dive at 24,000ft bc I have a Ta153 or bf109 on my 6 and they usually catch me and shoot me down by 10,000ft. Energy fight means nothing in this horribly crafted game.
@Bilbo Fappins Game is also trash when they have things like a J7W japanese push plane, which was experimental, never saw combat and suffered from severe vibrations and engine failure out flying f4u-4s and p51 mustangs. Its just hogwash.
@@AdamTheEnginerd what prop pitch is best for 109?
The last time I was this early adam can kill just about anything with 20 cnn shells from a 109
A lot of players can with a little luck. It's easier with OP MG 151 minengeschoss than any other wepaon in the game
@@iank6897 I "can" do it in optimal conditions sometimes in mission editor against bots or in live matches against stalled out people
I was playing the G-2/trop one time and pilot sniped a P-51 with a single 20 mm shell. Have no idea how; and I'm sure I couldn't do it again if I tried.
@@AliceC993 Gaijin works in mysterious ways.
@@iank6897 Meanwhile, Japanese cannons/Hispanos/Shvaks: How many sparks do you need?
Gaijin: YES!
That prop pitch move (and the entire part starting before the head on) has got to be the highest skill moves I’ve ever seen
There's a more advanced prop pitch trick than this one! But probably used in less situations than the airbrake one.
I think that spitfire might've broken off to try and bait you into chasing and climbing so he can use his high alt performance, but they might've panicked seeing you close in, either that or they didn't know how to deal with a bf109 very well and tried to bait for his team instead. That's something I'll do a lot of the time against people at higher alts when they outperform me - just try to drag them down and have a teammate sideclimb above them.
Yeah but he was already closing in on me before breaking off.
Nice to see you back streaming and making videos again Adam:). Thanks for the useful and entertaining content! Keep up the great work!
Thanks for the support, I will!
imo your channel deserve more subs! Keep doing your job and content because I love it
Thanks for the praise, I will!
And this is why I set my air brake key to the R key, definitely an good idea, not accident prone at all
Haha well feel free to change your keybind.
I was not expecting this upload! Good job comrade!
Thanks!
This is the kind of video I've been looking for. Good job
Glad you liked it!
Love your format. Your videos really got me interested in aviation and air RB
Glad you like them!
Such a formidable aircraft! This & the G2 are really good! Great video Adam 👌👍
THanks mate!
Adam: *Logs in*
Everybody at the lobby: *OwO*
Haha yup.
Excellent explanation, from now on, I’ll use this new knowledge in combat :)
Good luck!
What a pleasure to see you back
:).
The return!! Glad to see you back Adam
Good to be back!
12:57 Wow, you made quick work of that f4u
Always learning something watch your vids. Cheers!
Cheers to you as well!
I’d say the g6 is generally easier to use (feels like a diet super prop and has slightly better guns) but it’s repair is a bit high and it gets uptiered to 5.7. alas I still used the f4 to grind out lots more events and rp. and I’ve never had as good a match as you did this video in my g6, truly skillful flying!
Thanks!
G6 faces some good enemy aircraft though.
That map is great for terrain fighting in realistic. But when I first started playing in arcade half the maps are like that and with the increased tempo it is really awesome looping around mountains and canyons
Yeah I can see that.
Thanks for the new vid man
Thank you for watching!
Wow great Gameplay! That was just entertaining to watch! I wish i was that good at the game lol
Glad you enjoyed it! You'll get there ;).
I just got it, and its the already my favourite aircraft. It can energy fight, gain altitude fast and the weaponry fire rate is perfect.
Yup.
Master of his own art and very methodical, salute!
o7!
one of the best air guide i ever seen
Thanks for the praise!
I’m a big fan on the Bf 109 so awesome video
Thanks!
I imagine that this bf 109 is the pilot that was the captain of yellow squadron 30 years later in ac4
I don't need AC lore haha.
Yeh the F4 and all G2 variants realy fun.
Yup.
Always here for when the king uploads
Thanks for the support!
Nice, I love the F-4. Always used the Trop version before I moved onto the G6 and eventually to jets.
may i ask what is the advantage of trop version compared to normal version?
@@33.666 The tropical version is much like the standard F-4 variant. New features are engine intake dust filter, a socket for sun-umbrellas and several other accommodations versus particulate matter. While these modifications allowed for prolonged service life in harsh environments like the Russian veld and Libya's desert, it also (marginally) costs top speed and engine performance due to increased air resistance and power diversion for the filtered aspirator, although these are hardly noticeable in combat.
Trop is worse! It's slower than the non-trop by about 15-20km/h at sea level.
@@tanyanzhang3303 thx but i was asking about in-game-advantage of trop version.... does it turn better? or just HJ Marseille?
@@AdamTheEnginerd Oh wow, I didn't know that. I always wondered if that air filter changed anything performance wise, guess it does lol.
How i missed these videos !!! Greetings from Argentina!
Greetings from Canada!
Lets go new adam video
Yes!
Glad ur back !
Good to be back!
Its been a while since you posted a gameplay, i missed it :D
:).
Adam, as always cool videos. I learned to fly from your videos. Make a video with f6f plz))
Thanks! I did do a recent F6F video!
I like this style of video
Thanks!
I’ve been flying out the 190 A8 as a challenge, it shreds anything it comes across
No it doesn’t, all 190A’s are pretty bad in there current state.
@@fwickham2074 if you shoot something it kills it, it’s hard to succeed in
A5/U12 is nice.
Eyy the legend has come back!
Also sorry if I always bug u with the P-51D-30 (I'm too poor to fly that thing now tho) but could u take it out and make a vid about it against germans/italians or other better climbing planes?
I also have a few vid suggestions:
-Do a vid on the times u died and explain what u could've done better (so that we can improve as well)
-Do a vid reviewing other people's replays and see what went wrong (inspired from Long5hot)
Biggest tips for the P-51
Stay over 350kmh if at all possible. Gentle turns if possible. Keep maneuvers in the vertical if you can afford to lose the speed. But your drag is significantly lower at high speeds and low angles of attack.
Use MEC. Perma-wep, 100% prop, 75-100% rads.
Master the diving side to side overshoot bait. Essentially you pull the higher enemy into a dive above his compression speed. You roll side to side with a bit of rudder and pull g’s to bleed speed. They will try to follow but they cannot maneuver sharp enough to bleed their speed. They will overshoot. Then you follow them up shooting all the way.
@@zedoktor979 I have done most of what you said, however most of the time I get outclimbed while the rest of my team went for that one random enemy groundpounder on the deck
I'll consider it!
Very enjoyable. Wouldn't mind more :)
More to come! Meanwhile, have you seen my other videos?
welcome back adam
Thanks!
Great game, you played this like a chess game, perfect stuff, congrats.
Must had been quite depressing irl to have your whole plane in tact but need to crash land due to stuff like tail control damage.
On retrospect I'm sure they were thanking god it was only tail control damage instead of being obliterated.
Su-9?
Great video very cool
Thanks!
Hmm never flown it, maybe!
I want you to try the french sb2c with gun pods. It's an interesting play style, I use it like a support by trying to take out fighters climbing from their AF for my own team to get a fighter advantage
On my list!
I know you post your settings in the descriptions but I just wanted to ask to make sure, do you use vertical convergence for this plane? And on that topic, do you recommend using vertical convergence for any planes in particular? Good to see a new video from you, keep it up!
No VT ever for me.
Thanks, I will!
Amazing plane
Although personally i flew the E4 109 a lot more and both it and the F4 have the distinction of being the best 109s in the game for their respective BRs
Yeah.
Although it has a great climb, good turn and energy retention, sometimes landing a single cannon shot in the propeller hub can be tricky enough to empty the ammo quickly :P
But gotta admit somehow you manage to hit the Corsair Tail and Spit Engine pretty much easy :O
I used to prefer wing mounted weaponry when I started playing for that reason.
Hey Adam! I recently discovered your channel and I love it! Do you think you could make an Air RB tutorial on how to get better? Every time I go into a game, I climb to 14,000 ft and then get instantly killed. Any tips?
F4 with 15mm pods with cermet core bullets make a caos on ground battles, you should try it, also I love using the G6, for me it is the best plane of its BR
I rarely play ground RB though.
Hey Adam, I was playing with P51Ds these days. It is truely amazing when there's team work going on. But that rarely happen. Including myself, players don't know much how to setup baits, stratergies for duos against a single, dual or triple enemies, what enemy to attack kinda things. Can you do something about it so we can learn, please?... Love your work by the way...
That's the nature of disorganized teams in a team-based game. Just picking up on baits and tips in my videos should help. The issue is getting enough people to learn about baiting though.
nice, I missed the random match videos a bit
Ye.
This plane is absolute cancer in AB. There's one or two of them every match at altitude and they are impossible for anything else at the BR to really deal with if flown competently
Welll since competent players are pretty rare, it's not cancerous? Your logic eats itself
@@derrickstorm6976 Looks like you don't understand how logic works. Literal hackers are also rare; doesn't make them any less cancerous. The fact that I am encountering this type of player using this exact plane and playstyle in every single 4.0 match, given the variety of vehicles available at and around 4.0, should immediately tell you that this isn't "pretty rare". YOUR logic eats itself.
J21 and yak 3 can compete mostly. I can't think of much else... I'm trading 4 to 1 in AB with the F4 and I'm a mediocre pilot at best.
@@HRCSJSUAMMAS J-21 only has guns. F-4 just needs to dodge the head-on for an insta win. I agree with the yak-3 to an extent, but it is weaker in every area other than maybe flat turning. My choice for hunting campers is the J2m2.
@@iank6897 J21 just needs to go straight to avoid that bf109 instawin. J21 is still the best plane, at least in arcade, by a wide margin.
SICK gameplay man!! If you could try the boomerang mk1 or 2 it would be awesome🙏
Thanks!
I've never flown the Boomerang haha.
The last F4U was doing a pretty decent job. It got u into rolling scissor and almost got u to overshoot.
Yup.
Wow, another great and educated video from you. Your video is relaxing and educate me how to be a better pilot. Btw i have problem. I never win an engagement with spitfire when using Bf109 series. Can you give me an advise?
The Spitfire has a big advantage in a dogfight. Your strength as a 109 is your climb and you generally outspeed the Spitfire by a small margin as well. Use the climb to start a fight with the altitude advantage to BnZ, and as long as you don't have the alt advantage, bait the Spitfire towards higher teammates.
Great video, keep it up. (Btw it’s BlankTheGamer)
Thanks!
I think the SCG switch for the Mk IX is about 5.5km depending on the map, but at 4.5km it still is losing power. Nice flying amd with 4 minutes to spare!!
I thought it was around the 5km range.
Haha 4 minutes to spare!
I'd argue the G-2/trop is marginally better because of the better climb, but they're otherwise both incredibly strong. great content as always king
G2 does marginally turn worse right?
And slower at sea level than F4.
Bf109 F4: *exists*
Yak3: Nah nah can't have that
What do you mean?
@@AdamTheEnginerd Yak 3s at 4.0 eat 109s for breakfast
Haven't played for a couple of years now. longer even. But with out doubt this is my go to fighter. I think this model was close to the best at that time in the war. later models even though better in some regards were losing the race against ever better fighters from the States, Russia and the UK.
It might have been the most competitive yeah.
Ur aim is absolutely on point. I usually get to nice positions with my BF G6 or TA 125H1 but my aim sucks so if it is not a clear shot I sometimes miss my target and give him another chance to fight. Any tips?
Omg you're posting again? I thought you stopped WT.
I missed your content
Who said I stopped? ;)
Your gameplays are just impressive..
Thanks!
tbh the E-1 variant is the best tier for tier, very good turn fighter and with a tracer belt it pilot snipes and destroys engines like crazy
Faces new players, tough to take that into consideration when evaluating an aircraft.
Idk if it’s just less experienced players at this br but this plane feels disgustingly strong
There's some of that yeah.
I love this aircraft
It's a fun Bf109.
Here I was gonna put some work in with Sweden but after seeing this I guess I could take the ol F4 out for a spin or 5…
Haha good hunting!
Those F4U pilots were flying pretty well
First one yeah, 2nd was ground pounding for the first half of the match unfortunately.
Imagine getting so excited you lose situation awareness. I was on that match . Pretty dope shots.
Who were you?
@@AdamTheEnginerd the charlesvane12 dude
Fell like an idiot
Cool video...thanks yet again Adam. How do you manage to use MEC on the 109? I always blow my engine when I do.
Thanks!
Just don't enable manual prop pitch, leave that automatic and only controls the rads.
Could you please make a video on the K4? and how to counter planes like the F2G and high tier spitfires? Love the vid
I did one a while ago, but it's on my list!
@@AdamTheEnginerd Sounds good my guy
the F2G is extremely easy to counter. Just turn and Climb. You'll have troubles only if they dive on you and the fight takes place at very low altitudes. Against High tier spitfire the key is to use your speed and bring the fight at your altitudes. If an LF start chasing you bring it to 6000m. You'll out climb him easily above that altitude. If you fight a Griffon when you get to the merge don't turn with them but start a gradual climb. Once you have about 2.5km distance pull up vertically using prop pitch trick to increase thrust and do a stall climb. They won't be able to follow that unless you do it above 6000m
It's always fun to fly against skilled Messerschmitts, I have to use wits to win with my A6M.
But oh god, please remove the BVs and Me264s from the fight between me and them!
I'd like that too.
What I mean is that on some maps german bombs spot us fighters by flying 1.5km above our climb route without any interception.
While they get tactical advantages and more options, we can't expect such contribution from US bombers...
On maps like Ladoga, where fighter and bomber routes don't intersect, I can climb while keeping my presence secret
that prop pitch trick is so badass. wish i could bind my mec efficiently on controller :(
You have other priorities on controller imo.
True, but you can attaché and use keyboard to activate/deactivate MEC and prop pitch. Then use a binding on your console for pitch up or down. I'm still learning what Adam teaches us, but it should be possible with this combination 😉
I remember getting up to 4 kills with this thing every round best thing ever still is good aircraft just people are more experience
That's very good.
Hey that BV was helping
06:00 “..both have significant turn advantage”
- Hans-Joachim Marseille has entered the chat
I wonder how he'd perform in WT.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Yeah, me too. Although most likely he will shoot himself down when he plays the game and sees the Flight models..
ruffly though 😂 great vid
Haha thanks!
F-4 is a golden mean between early and late messhersmidts
"Mers-hers-mert" 😂😂
Its more aerodynamic clean than the Es and its more nimble than the Gs (which were optimized for climbing because gotta to intercept bombers!)
Yup.
love your profile pix XD
F4 is basically in improve version of Emils
Emils look edgy, angry, and bad-ass looking radiator but it trade for aerodynamic.
F model mean Fast XDDD
Friedrich model is redesign the airframe, radiator, engine cowling, propeller spinner, etc
Arcade mode makes lots impossible gun solutions work insanely!
I guess?
13:50 unfortunate for him, the beast inside him can't shoot you back
Haha yeah.
Gotta say the g2 is very fun
Yup.
This is my favourite prop
Understandable.
I personally prefer the g2. It climbs a bit better and the gunpods that have actual mg 151s not the 15mm ones make it really nice. I find it hard to work with only one cannon in f4 as the 15mm gunpods are next to useless.
The gunpods are better indeed, but the G2Trop is actually slower at low alt by a decent margin. BR is higher too.
The f4 is currently my highest tier plane I’ve been playing this game for quite a while but never really got into planes because I wasn’t a good pilot your channel and his vid especially will help me become a better f4 pilot and pilot in general I’m glad people like you are here your channel will help me get into air rb
Glad to help! Keep at it!
Adam please do a J2M5 (30mm ) game. I'm your big fan from the beginning.
It's on my list!
I usually prefer to play the k4, but f4 is always the next best thing!
Understandable.
Great video, I learned so much watching your content.
Dodging the Corsair you wrote: the dodge would have been sufficient on the US server, but on the EU server you got elevator clipped off.
Is it because of the ping?
I am asking, as I play on both servers.
Yeah the ping difference is what made the difference between getting hit and not getting hit in this case.
@@AdamTheEnginerd Thank you for the answer.
It's great to learn the aspects of the game.
My favorite 109!
Understandable.
13:36 "ruffly"
Ruff
Bork
Arf arf.
@@AdamTheEnginerd knocked loose reference?
@@coltonogden1513 It's a more degenerate reference.
Well done, mate! Honestly, I have issues with Me-109F piloting. And after this video, I want to try again and again.
Can you tell me, how do you set your flaps on landing during the combat?
How do you set radiator on 50%. Honestly, I see it in the first time
to set the Flaps on landing you need to bind buttons to the Flaps up and Flaps down settings in the controls
Legendary
Thanks!
That Bv238 is on full send
Full send?