I did and I love it. I don't want or need a 3 row SUV. I wasn't interested in the CX90. But for me, the CX70 is PERFECT. I like the look of the front and rear of the CX70 more than the 90. I like the blackout trim better on the CX70. It doesn't matter what Mazda called it. It's not a CX90 and I'm glad it's not. It is however, a WONDERFUL SUV to drive, that's for sure.
I don’t know which trims you’re comparing. For me, the logical replacement for my 2019 CX-9 Signature is the CX-90 Premium Plus, which has an MSRP of $50,355 in the US, the same as the CX-70 Premium Plus. However, the combination of the second-row bench seat and the availability of the red interior in the CX-70 makes it worth it to me. The third row in the CX-90, due to its lack of space, does not make up for the second-row bench seat in the CX-70. And I have gotten more use out of the second-row bench than the third row in my CX-9. Bottom line: I just look at the CX-70 as a trim of the CX-90. I have gotten over the disappointment of Mazda’s announcement of a new vehicle.
@@Rodghost1 Agreed on the looks. It seems like the middle-ground we can agree on is, that Mazda should have offered the bench seat 5-seater configuration on all trims of the CX-90. That would give people flexibility to chose what they want / need, while not taking up space in the lineup so we could still get a smaller, inline-6 powered SUV from Mazda.
I’m confused about all the complaints it’s sportier CX90 with less seats. MOST people don’t even use the 3rd row! As far the cup holders not being deleted, Mazda is a small company saved millions not having to redesign a piece that most people won’t even notice. I pick up my Polymetal Gray CX70 in a couple weeks
The complaint is, that Mazda had a great opportunity to actually increase their market share by offering a vehicle that sits in between the CX-50 and CX-90, but instead they just deleted the 3rd row of a CX-90 and called it a day. This should have simply been an option in for the 90, not a new model. It's a massive waste of potential for Mazda. It's still a great SUV like we said, so I'm sure you'll enjoy yours once it arrives!
How many different ways can you pretend to mistake CX 70 and say CX 90 ...horrible. The bottom line I wanted a two row with a bench seat and whether you call it a CX 90 or CX 70 I would have taken it exactly as they're presenting it here.
Glad you're liking the CX-70! It's a great SUV, just a shame that it takes the slot of what could've been an actual two-row SUV that slots between the 50 and the 90.
I got a Rhodium White CX-70 Turbo S two weeks ago. Loving it so far and nearly a thousand miles so far. Why'd I get it instead of a CX-90? You can't get a second row bench in any of the trims except the very lowest. My wife and I want... no... need the ventilated seats. On the CX-90, you can't get the ventilated seats in any trim except the very top. The Turbo S Premium, the second highest trim, has a bench and ventilated seats for 5 to 6 grand less than a top trim CX-90. And we don't need a three row. And the rear cubbies actually hold good deal of stuff. Boom. That's why, for me, the CX-70 is the way to go.
As someone who has a loved one who deals with epilepsy, the biggest advantage for this car over the 90 from my perspective is the safety feature in this car that senses a medical emergency, stops the car and calls emergency services (only in some of the models fyi). This is a life saving feature for people that lose consciousness while driving (seizures, heart attacks, etc) that is a very important difference between these cars. Please consider disabilities & emergency situations when you review cars. The review at the end that says you don’t gain anything and it’s the same car is not accurate if you are someone who has epilepsy or any sort of disability that requires a car to sense medical emergencies. The cars are not the same.
Just wanted to say that we really appreciate this comment, as it highlights a factor most reviewers (including us) barely highlight. Sorry for that! We'll try to give extra attention to those kinds of systems in the future, especially when it comes to comparisons.
Everyone wants more more more Yo! Mazda might not be inovating as much as all the other brand but what they sell is proven reliable and durable. And of all the suv's on the market mazda are by far the best looking of all.
Mazda engineer’s beautiful products and these slanted reviews get old. There’s a lot of Japanese culture wrapped into their design language that differentiates them and helps them punch well above their weight. I believe in their vision to go premium and I believe it will happen even with sickening levels of consumerism in today’s world. Appreciate the art 🖼️
Nothing in our review goes against what you said. Quite the opposite actually. Our point is that the Mazda CX-70 is a great SUV, but it doesn't fill the actual gap in Mazda's line-up and thus is a squandered opportunity for Mazda to increase their market share. Nothing slanted about that point.
Maybe you should try something a little different. when the CX70 came out lot's tried the CX70 CX90 thing. The CX 70 is way more sporty and most don't need the 3rd row.
I mean, are we not supposed to point out the very obvious flaw in the product planning here? And it's not any more sporty than the CX-90, it is the same car.
@@GCCarsCA I totally agree. Mazda was disingenuous about this product. No one is trying to make it a “thing”. Mazda did that on their own. If they had announced a two-row CX-90 and said they would call it CX-70, everyone would have been fine with it. But instead they overhyped the release of the car as a new vehicle. I, as a Mazda fan with three of them currently sitting in my driveway, was pissed, too.
We share our thoughts on the car, that's the point of a review, otherwise one could just read the spec sheet on Mazda's website, right? Sorry you didn't enjoy it, hopefully you'll find a channel that's more to your liking :)
Picking up my cx70 today buying a poly Grey with red interior i wouldn't buy a 90 the 70 looks sportier and for all you people who want a 60 I wouldn't have brought that if you look at the spec's it is the same size as a cx50 with less interior space and only 29 cubic feet of cargo the cx50 has 31
Appreciate you giving us your reasoning behind purchasing the 70 over the 90. We agree, the 70 looks better, although I really love the new red they offer on the 90! Overall, we do like the CX-70 a lot which we hope was made clear in our review 👍
Don't think it deserved the video title. Maybe "Same but different" lol. Enjoyed your sense of humour though. I am buying one. Arrives in 4 weeks. I have a 150 pound St. Bernard and a Husky Malamute. The CX-90 captains chairs would not have been practical and the CX-90 2nd row bench option is ugly as f*%k (my opinion). So this CX-70 sportier, and roomier for 2nd row and looks great! So looking forward to it and retiring my Evoque. Also looking forward to the GT PHEV!
Unfortunately the CZcams algorithm pushes us to be a little click-baity in terms of the title, but we hope it was made clear throughout the review that our disappointment doesn't stem from the CX-70 (arguably a great SUV), but Mazda's product planning and marketing. In your case I can see how the CX-70 makes more sense then the 90, but I stick to my guns by saying that this should've simply been an option in the CX-90 configurator. That being said, I'm sure you will love the CX-70!
Agree. But reviewers think they need a title that will grab people's attention, even if the title is dumb and doesn't really match the review. I love my CX70!
@@GCCarsCA, be careful with the clickbaitey titles. We get enough of that from Scotty Kilmer. Donut is suffering a little now from such titles as well. It can be a real turn off to a lot of viewers. However your true feelings about the marketing come through clearly if one watches the whole video. Many will not get to know that because they will skip over the clickbait titles.
@@JJF1973 Oh I am very much aware of Scotty's titles and we'll never be like that, ha! We always make sure that the titles remain accurate, which remains true here. We are genuinely disappointed with the CX-90, not because of it being a bad SUV (it's great actually), but because Mazda squandered an huge opportunity.
I totally agree with you that Mazda made this vehicle a disappointment by overhyping it. I was as disappointed as you are when I saw it the first time. However, as a current 2019 CX-9 Signature owner, I would consider the CX-70 for the following reasons: 1. The CX-90 does not offer a second-row bench seat in the upper trims. I have gotten more use out of the middle seat in the second row of my CX-9 than I have out of the third row. I have rarely used the latter. 2. The CX-70 is available with a red interior in the Premium Plus trim, at least in the US, and it has an MSRP under $51k, which is a decent value considering the MSRP for a top trim CX-50, for instance, is over $45k in the US.
If only they added a 2nd row bench seat as an option on all trims of the CX-90... but I can totally see how some configurations are preferable on the CX-70 over the CX-90.
If you had watched the video, you'd know that the title actually isn't clickbait. We think the CX-70 is a great disappointment, but not because of the quality of the vehicle, but rather the marketing and product planning from Mazda.
I own one and I agree. The marketing is poor and so are some of the choices. Believe me when you drive it you don’t realize it is such a large vehicle. I transitioned from a CX5 and it seems equally nimble and the PHEV is a smooth model. Not sure it is worth 60K. Probably a better option if you are open to lease
CX-5 to CX-70 is definitely a great update - especially when you get the PHEV option (we have yet to test that one). We do like the CX-70 / 90 a lot, it's just a bummer that it takes the slot of what could be a true in-between option. But hey, maybe they'll find a way to bring the CX-60 over some day.
Mazda, bring the cx 60 to north America. Who authorized this cx 70 should be fired. This a cx 90 without the 3 rd row. This has to the the worst decision Mazda has made.
Mazda will laugh at your comment all the way to the bank. Here in Sunny Florida, the CX70's are flying off dealer showrooms. Mazda definitely made the right decision for me!
@@Rodghost1Agreed, CX-70 is being released in Australia later this year. Car dealer friend here is getting 4 enquiries for CX-70 to every CX-90. People even holding off, waiting for release. Both impressive vehicles to my senses. 😊
@@dynamici Indeed, they are both great vehicles, made for different needs. A large family who needs a 3 row SUV, will go for the CX90. Those who like me, have no need for a 3 row SUV will opt for the CX70.
I wish these had higher towing capacity. We would like to buy a small travel trailer but our Mazda can't tow even 1000lbs. Definitely wouldnt spend $50k on this.
@@meowzic I see. I really liked the CX-50 and was one of the few journalists that preferred over the CX-5, so be open to testing the 5 as well. Also, depending on what CX-50 trim you're looking at and your location (US or Canada), the CX-50 does get quite close to mid-trim CX-70 / 90s while offering a better, very efficient drivetrain with the inline-6. Either SUV will be great!
The CX-80 is about 4 inches shorter than the CX-70, while the CX-60 is over a foot shorter, making it a much more compelling middle-of-the-pack product.
Exactly, it's the same car. We'd love for Mazda to offer a two-row option on the higher trim CX-90s and then bring over a true "in-between" I6 SUV like the European-only CX-60 or 80.
So many reviewers comment the CX70 has the very same cup holders in the cargo area, where the third row would be in a CX90. This is NOT correct. They are NOT the same. Not a big detail, but you should be aware they are completely different in the CX70.
I mean it's a different plastic insert, but it's still a cupholder for all intensive purposes. If Mazda actually went the extra mile, they'd redesigned that part for wider utility, but instead it's repurposed cupholders into a cubby cupholder. lol
@@Rockytop8118 It's not a cup holder. It's a cubby (for what I'm not sure), but if you put a drink in that cubby, it would go flying. The point I'm making is reviewers keep saying it's the same as in the CX90 and it simply isn't. I suppose the point they're trying to convey is the CX70 is nothing more than a 2 row CX90. I don't see it that way. And I suspect there are many like me, who wouldn't consider a CX90, because is it a 3 row SUV, like I wouldn't have .
Our point is more so that a 2-row CX-90 should simply be an option on all trim levels, instead of calling it a new model and taking away the possibility of having a true two-row SUV with the I6.
@@Rodghost1 it's because it is barely any more than a two row cx-90. Mazda only aesthetically altered the vehicle in minor ways. It's not any physically or mechanically different outside of captains chairs and a third row and Alexa and two buttons to put down the seats and a cubby insert. Is that enough to call it a new car? Look at the MDX. It has three rows but it folds down clean and also has captains chairs with a console that flips up to a bench. Voila two cars in one!
@@GCCarsCA I get your point. Perhaps you should buy Mazda and then you can decide how they build and market cars. I don't quite understand your point about taking away the possibility of having a two row SUV with the I6. That's exactly what the CX70 is. Can you better explain why this is such an issue for people? If you want a 3 row SUV with the I6, you buy a CX90. If want a 2 row SUV with the I6, you buy the CX70. Perhaps Mazda didn't do the best job of marketing here, but the two cars, while very similar are designed for different buyers. The 3 row for people who need to carry more than 5 people. The CX70 for people who don't need to carry more than 5 people. And the CX70 has some sportier design elements, which appeal to me over the CX90 too.
My take is this. If you look at the Acura MDX with 3 rows. The car has captains chairs with a middle console that folds back up into a bench. You can have both. You can also fold the third row down and have a bench too. The RDX slots nicely in the mid-size arena as a different car. Mazda did not do that. They intentionally don't allow second row benches in the top 90 trims to keep buyers away from simply getting the 90 for that purpose. So basically you can make the MDX a CX-70 and a CX-90 with very small mods. You can buy a CX-90 and black out the car with the discounts dealers are offering and probably come away with a better deal. This is all a dupe for Mazda to report on being in a 2-row mid-size segment in their investor decks n stuff without having to do much of anything outside aesthetic mods. It's the world's first SEO car.
"It's the world's first SEO car." that's a pretty good way to put it - gonna reference this comment going forward! And funnily enough, we do have an MDX review coming very soon!
We're from Ontario lol. And like we said, this should've simply been a trim of the CX-90 and make room for a proper in-between model from Mazda. Mazda lost an opportunity to extend their market share.
It's like if you order a cheeseburger without the buns. BTW I keep waiting for you two kiss. You sound like an old married couple complaining about the car. The car is fine the way it is.
Sorry mate, we're straight. But feel free to let your fantasy run wild if that's what you're into. And yes, the car is totally fine, even good. Just like we said. It's just a squandered opportunity by Mazda.
@@garettw1678 Sorry to hear that! The CX-30 is a nice vehicle from our past experiences, but it is way too cramped to make any sense in the segment that it competes in.
So... does anyone consider the CX-70 worth it with only a $1,000 price difference to the CX-90?
I did and I love it. I don't want or need a 3 row SUV. I wasn't interested in the CX90. But for me, the CX70 is PERFECT. I like the look of the front and rear of the CX70 more than the 90. I like the blackout trim better on the CX70. It doesn't matter what Mazda called it. It's not a CX90 and I'm glad it's not. It is however, a WONDERFUL SUV to drive, that's for sure.
Do the math on the Prime Plus vs GT-S USD to CDN Canada getting a better deal this time around it appears.
CX-70 comes with more options when comparing all but the highest trims. And the 70 has the lovely burgundy interior.
I don’t know which trims you’re comparing. For me, the logical replacement for my 2019 CX-9 Signature is the CX-90 Premium Plus, which has an MSRP of $50,355 in the US, the same as the CX-70 Premium Plus. However, the combination of the second-row bench seat and the availability of the red interior in the CX-70 makes it worth it to me. The third row in the CX-90, due to its lack of space, does not make up for the second-row bench seat in the CX-70. And I have gotten more use out of the second-row bench than the third row in my CX-9. Bottom line: I just look at the CX-70 as a trim of the CX-90. I have gotten over the disappointment of Mazda’s announcement of a new vehicle.
@@Rodghost1 Agreed on the looks. It seems like the middle-ground we can agree on is, that Mazda should have offered the bench seat 5-seater configuration on all trims of the CX-90. That would give people flexibility to chose what they want / need, while not taking up space in the lineup so we could still get a smaller, inline-6 powered SUV from Mazda.
I’m confused about all the complaints it’s sportier CX90 with less seats. MOST people don’t even use the 3rd row! As far the cup holders not being deleted, Mazda is a small company saved millions not having to redesign a piece that most people won’t even notice. I pick up my Polymetal Gray CX70 in a couple weeks
The complaint is, that Mazda had a great opportunity to actually increase their market share by offering a vehicle that sits in between the CX-50 and CX-90, but instead they just deleted the 3rd row of a CX-90 and called it a day. This should have simply been an option in for the 90, not a new model. It's a massive waste of potential for Mazda.
It's still a great SUV like we said, so I'm sure you'll enjoy yours once it arrives!
@@GCCarsCA if they would of called it a CX90 sport would it have been less upsetting ?
Taking out seats makes it a sport?
@@jessiewald1 in the atlas cross sport “it did! “ was really just making a point
@@jeffgreer5227fair lmao
How many different ways can you pretend to mistake CX 70 and say CX 90 ...horrible. The bottom line I wanted a two row with a bench seat and whether you call it a CX 90 or CX 70 I would have taken it exactly as they're presenting it here.
Glad you're liking the CX-70! It's a great SUV, just a shame that it takes the slot of what could've been an actual two-row SUV that slots between the 50 and the 90.
And that’s why they have less than 10k subscribers. Trying too hard.
@@GCCarsCAThat’s why they have the CX-60.
@@elyse6688 If they would only sell it in North America... then I'd be happy :)
I got a Rhodium White CX-70 Turbo S two weeks ago. Loving it so far and nearly a thousand miles so far. Why'd I get it instead of a CX-90? You can't get a second row bench in any of the trims except the very lowest. My wife and I want... no... need the ventilated seats. On the CX-90, you can't get the ventilated seats in any trim except the very top. The Turbo S Premium, the second highest trim, has a bench and ventilated seats for 5 to 6 grand less than a top trim CX-90. And we don't need a three row. And the rear cubbies actually hold good deal of stuff. Boom. That's why, for me, the CX-70 is the way to go.
Sounds like you made the choice that made financial sense here. 👌
It's a great SUV overall and I'm sure you'll love it!
As someone who has a loved one who deals with epilepsy, the biggest advantage for this car over the 90 from my perspective is the safety feature in this car that senses a medical emergency, stops the car and calls emergency services (only in some of the models fyi). This is a life saving feature for people that lose consciousness while driving (seizures, heart attacks, etc) that is a very important difference between these cars. Please consider disabilities & emergency situations when you review cars. The review at the end that says you don’t gain anything and it’s the same car is not accurate if you are someone who has epilepsy or any sort of disability that requires a car to sense medical emergencies. The cars are not the same.
Just wanted to say that we really appreciate this comment, as it highlights a factor most reviewers (including us) barely highlight. Sorry for that! We'll try to give extra attention to those kinds of systems in the future, especially when it comes to comparisons.
Everyone wants more more more
Yo! Mazda might not be inovating as much as all the other brand but what they sell is proven reliable and durable.
And of all the suv's on the market mazda are by far the best looking of all.
Mazda engineer’s beautiful products and these slanted reviews get old. There’s a lot of Japanese culture wrapped into their design language that differentiates them and helps them punch well above their weight. I believe in their vision to go premium and I believe it will happen even with sickening levels of consumerism in today’s world. Appreciate the art 🖼️
Nothing in our review goes against what you said. Quite the opposite actually. Our point is that the Mazda CX-70 is a great SUV, but it doesn't fill the actual gap in Mazda's line-up and thus is a squandered opportunity for Mazda to increase their market share. Nothing slanted about that point.
I really love my CX-70 GT-P
It is a great SUV and we quite like it - hope that was clear from the review :)
Maybe you should try something a little different. when the CX70 came out lot's tried the CX70 CX90 thing. The CX 70 is way more sporty and most don't need the 3rd row.
I mean, are we not supposed to point out the very obvious flaw in the product planning here? And it's not any more sporty than the CX-90, it is the same car.
@@GCCarsCA I totally agree. Mazda was disingenuous about this product. No one is trying to make it a “thing”. Mazda did that on their own. If they had announced a two-row CX-90 and said they would call it CX-70, everyone would have been fine with it. But instead they overhyped the release of the car as a new vehicle. I, as a Mazda fan with three of them currently sitting in my driveway, was pissed, too.
Can't listen to these flakes. they're bringing attention to themselves instead of sharing information about the vehicle
We share our thoughts on the car, that's the point of a review, otherwise one could just read the spec sheet on Mazda's website, right? Sorry you didn't enjoy it, hopefully you'll find a channel that's more to your liking :)
Picking up my cx70 today buying a poly Grey with red interior i wouldn't buy a 90 the 70 looks sportier and for all you people who want a 60 I wouldn't have brought that if you look at the spec's it is the same size as a cx50 with less interior space and only 29 cubic feet of cargo the cx50 has 31
Appreciate you giving us your reasoning behind purchasing the 70 over the 90. We agree, the 70 looks better, although I really love the new red they offer on the 90! Overall, we do like the CX-70 a lot which we hope was made clear in our review 👍
I went with Poly as well. I was going to get the Napa Garnet Red but wait was too long so I settle on the Napa Black.
Don't think it deserved the video title. Maybe "Same but different" lol. Enjoyed your sense of humour though. I am buying one. Arrives in 4 weeks. I have a 150 pound St. Bernard and a Husky Malamute. The CX-90 captains chairs would not have been practical and the CX-90 2nd row bench option is ugly as f*%k (my opinion). So this CX-70 sportier, and roomier for 2nd row and looks great! So looking forward to it and retiring my Evoque. Also looking forward to the GT PHEV!
Unfortunately the CZcams algorithm pushes us to be a little click-baity in terms of the title, but we hope it was made clear throughout the review that our disappointment doesn't stem from the CX-70 (arguably a great SUV), but Mazda's product planning and marketing. In your case I can see how the CX-70 makes more sense then the 90, but I stick to my guns by saying that this should've simply been an option in the CX-90 configurator.
That being said, I'm sure you will love the CX-70!
Agree. But reviewers think they need a title that will grab people's attention, even if the title is dumb and doesn't really match the review. I love my CX70!
@@GCCarsCA, be careful with the clickbaitey titles. We get enough of that from Scotty Kilmer. Donut is suffering a little now from such titles as well. It can be a real turn off to a lot of viewers. However your true feelings about the marketing come through clearly if one watches the whole video. Many will not get to know that because they will skip over the clickbait titles.
P.S. Do you ever review Toyotas? Would love to see a comparison between the 3rd and 4th gen Tacos.
@@JJF1973 Oh I am very much aware of Scotty's titles and we'll never be like that, ha! We always make sure that the titles remain accurate, which remains true here. We are genuinely disappointed with the CX-90, not because of it being a bad SUV (it's great actually), but because Mazda squandered an huge opportunity.
I totally agree with you that Mazda made this vehicle a disappointment by overhyping it. I was as disappointed as you are when I saw it the first time. However, as a current 2019 CX-9 Signature owner, I would consider the CX-70 for the following reasons: 1. The CX-90 does not offer a second-row bench seat in the upper trims. I have gotten more use out of the middle seat in the second row of my CX-9 than I have out of the third row. I have rarely used the latter. 2. The CX-70 is available with a red interior in the Premium Plus trim, at least in the US, and it has an MSRP under $51k, which is a decent value considering the MSRP for a top trim CX-50, for instance, is over $45k in the US.
If only they added a 2nd row bench seat as an option on all trims of the CX-90... but I can totally see how some configurations are preferable on the CX-70 over the CX-90.
@@GCCarsCA Yes, adding a second-row bench seat option to the top trims of the CX-90 would be ideal.
What's up with the click bait title. I won't even bother finishing the video
If you had watched the video, you'd know that the title actually isn't clickbait. We think the CX-70 is a great disappointment, but not because of the quality of the vehicle, but rather the marketing and product planning from Mazda.
I own one and I agree. The marketing is poor and so are some of the choices. Believe me when you drive it you don’t realize it is such a large vehicle. I transitioned from a CX5 and it seems equally nimble and the PHEV is a smooth model. Not sure it is worth 60K. Probably a better option if you are open to lease
CX-5 to CX-70 is definitely a great update - especially when you get the PHEV option (we have yet to test that one). We do like the CX-70 / 90 a lot, it's just a bummer that it takes the slot of what could be a true in-between option. But hey, maybe they'll find a way to bring the CX-60 over some day.
Mazda, bring the cx 60 to north America. Who authorized this cx 70 should be fired. This a cx 90 without the 3 rd row. This has to the the worst decision Mazda has made.
One can dream...
Mazda will laugh at your comment all the way to the bank. Here in Sunny Florida, the CX70's are flying off dealer showrooms. Mazda definitely made the right decision for me!
@@Rodghost1Agreed, CX-70 is being released in Australia later this year.
Car dealer friend here is getting 4 enquiries for CX-70 to every CX-90.
People even holding off, waiting for release. Both impressive vehicles to my senses. 😊
@@dynamici Indeed, they are both great vehicles, made for different needs. A large family who needs a 3 row SUV, will go for the CX90. Those who like me, have no need for a 3 row SUV will opt for the CX70.
I wish these had higher towing capacity. We would like to buy a small travel trailer but our Mazda can't tow even 1000lbs. Definitely wouldnt spend $50k on this.
The CX-70 with the regular 3.3L I6 should tow up to 5,000 lbs. Which Mazda do you currently own?
@@GCCarsCA CX-3, but thinking about maybe upgrading to a CX-50?
@@meowzic I see. I really liked the CX-50 and was one of the few journalists that preferred over the CX-5, so be open to testing the 5 as well. Also, depending on what CX-50 trim you're looking at and your location (US or Canada), the CX-50 does get quite close to mid-trim CX-70 / 90s while offering a better, very efficient drivetrain with the inline-6. Either SUV will be great!
How does this differ from the cx60 and 80 you mentioned
The CX-80 is about 4 inches shorter than the CX-70, while the CX-60 is over a foot shorter, making it a much more compelling middle-of-the-pack product.
How does Mazda explain this after announcing the 4" shorter cx80 in Europe?
That's what we're asking ourselves
It's the same wheel base for a reason. Very long straight 6 engine and rear wheel drive system. Larger cars also ride better.
Exactly, it's the same car. We'd love for Mazda to offer a two-row option on the higher trim CX-90s and then bring over a true "in-between" I6 SUV like the European-only CX-60 or 80.
Mazda should have listened to its consumers in North America and brought the CX-60
So many reviewers comment the CX70 has the very same cup holders in the cargo area, where the third row would be in a CX90. This is NOT correct. They are NOT the same. Not a big detail, but you should be aware they are completely different in the CX70.
I mean it's a different plastic insert, but it's still a cupholder for all intensive purposes. If Mazda actually went the extra mile, they'd redesigned that part for wider utility, but instead it's repurposed cupholders into a cubby cupholder. lol
@@Rockytop8118 It's not a cup holder. It's a cubby (for what I'm not sure), but if you put a drink in that cubby, it would go flying. The point I'm making is reviewers keep saying it's the same as in the CX90 and it simply isn't. I suppose the point they're trying to convey is the CX70 is nothing more than a 2 row CX90. I don't see it that way. And I suspect there are many like me, who wouldn't consider a CX90, because is it a 3 row SUV, like I wouldn't have .
Our point is more so that a 2-row CX-90 should simply be an option on all trim levels, instead of calling it a new model and taking away the possibility of having a true two-row SUV with the I6.
@@Rodghost1 it's because it is barely any more than a two row cx-90. Mazda only aesthetically altered the vehicle in minor ways. It's not any physically or mechanically different outside of captains chairs and a third row and Alexa and two buttons to put down the seats and a cubby insert. Is that enough to call it a new car? Look at the MDX. It has three rows but it folds down clean and also has captains chairs with a console that flips up to a bench. Voila two cars in one!
@@GCCarsCA I get your point. Perhaps you should buy Mazda and then you can decide how they build and market cars. I don't quite understand your point about taking away the possibility of having a two row SUV with the I6. That's exactly what the CX70 is. Can you better explain why this is such an issue for people? If you want a 3 row SUV with the I6, you buy a CX90. If want a 2 row SUV with the I6, you buy the CX70. Perhaps Mazda didn't do the best job of marketing here, but the two cars, while very similar are designed for different buyers. The 3 row for people who need to carry more than 5 people. The CX70 for people who don't need to carry more than 5 people. And the CX70 has some sportier design elements, which appeal to me over the CX90 too.
My take is this. If you look at the Acura MDX with 3 rows. The car has captains chairs with a middle console that folds back up into a bench. You can have both. You can also fold the third row down and have a bench too. The RDX slots nicely in the mid-size arena as a different car. Mazda did not do that. They intentionally don't allow second row benches in the top 90 trims to keep buyers away from simply getting the 90 for that purpose. So basically you can make the MDX a CX-70 and a CX-90 with very small mods. You can buy a CX-90 and black out the car with the discounts dealers are offering and probably come away with a better deal. This is all a dupe for Mazda to report on being in a 2-row mid-size segment in their investor decks n stuff without having to do much of anything outside aesthetic mods. It's the world's first SEO car.
"It's the world's first SEO car." that's a pretty good way to put it - gonna reference this comment going forward! And funnily enough, we do have an MDX review coming very soon!
The May be the most Quebec review ever 😂 just complain to complain. It serves a purpose. Did you want it called the CX-90-2
We're from Ontario lol. And like we said, this should've simply been a trim of the CX-90 and make room for a proper in-between model from Mazda. Mazda lost an opportunity to extend their market share.
It's like if you order a cheeseburger without the buns. BTW I keep waiting for you two kiss. You sound like an old married couple complaining about the car. The car is fine the way it is.
Sorry mate, we're straight. But feel free to let your fantasy run wild if that's what you're into.
And yes, the car is totally fine, even good. Just like we said. It's just a squandered opportunity by Mazda.
Why is that every model in the Mazda lineup all looks the same. It is the most boring lineup out of any manufacturer
Mazda only provides disappointments. I can’t wait to get rid of my 2021 Mazda and never buy another one again
What Mazda do you have? Usually we like them a lot!
@@GCCarsCA I used to lease a 2020 Mazda cx-5. Now I own a 2021 Mazda cx-30 premium and it is garbage. As the saying goes, you get what you pay for.
@@garettw1678 Sorry to hear that! The CX-30 is a nice vehicle from our past experiences, but it is way too cramped to make any sense in the segment that it competes in.
How tall are you two dwarves??
Eh, I've heard better insults before.