Is Nathan Cleary already an immortal? Panthers three-peat raises BIG questions | NRL 360 |Fox League
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- The NRL 360 panel react to the 2023 NRL Grand Final which saw the Panthers reign supreme for a third straight year.
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Gordy saying cap doesn’t matter? 😂 Brother Api, kikau, capewell, burton would still be there 😂 Critta and leniu wouldn’t be leaving. If there was no cap Penrith would pump every club.
Theyve stayed on top despite their key losses and haven’t missed a beat WITH a harder competition and cap space involved. We are witnessing the greatest team of all time
Had panthers kept thier players they would win 6 peat
Then what are you gonna do with all the juniors that are developing at StMarys?
Whenever there's a vacancy, another youngster comes in, and becomes a star. You'd leave them playing second grade?
Just like a farmer, they must cull the heard, and inject new blood. Otherwise you loose your juniors, and your team keeps getting older. Kinda like Wane Bennet's Newcastle (dads army).
Exactly, Gordy does not really think of those little things !
@JOEY-999 had storm kept their players Panthers still be waiting.
@@allansimpson7998 Kept who? Smith, Kronk, Slater? Mate their in their 40's lol
Cleary responded in a way that most of us have never seen in a GF. It is what it is, and that effort from the Penrith captain to help get the Panthers over the line is legendary. Such an extraordinary game that it made Gordie the spokesman for SAXA Salt.
As a neutral supporter, Brisbane blew that game.
That's why he's pissed.
The Broncos team he played in never shut up shop with 20min to go like that.
If Ezra Mam is towelling up the Panthers backline, imagine what Inglis would have done.
Johns and Sterling never missed tackles that led to tries in a GF, let alone 2 in a row.
@@Sensei_Sifu the first 3 beat the Panthers 5 out of 5 times. Thay might get one or two of the Roosters but the others they arent beating in big games. The Panthers would probably beat the last 2. The 1994 Raiders, 2004 Bulldogs would also beat this Panthers team imo.
How is tallis being salty he literally just said he needs to stand up like that at origin level, Matty did it Lewis did it, that's why their immortals they did it in all 3 levels 😂
@@Sensei_Sifu lol. The Chooks only beat the Warriors, but couldn't score ONE try in the GF '04 2nd half to beat the Dogz.
@@therelinquished4751 On a day when the game should be celebrated, Tallis couldn't help himself but put some kind of downer on it. He is, like that other prick sitting across from him in the glasses, a salty coont.
Who came here just to see Gordies excuses 😂😂 he just doesn’t disappoint
It's the sports science, you can't compare eras but then goes and does that :)
@@AJ73the sports science that Tallis thinks should be taken out of the game 😂😂😂😂
Ive been one of his biggest critics but i have to give credit where its due. That performance put him in the legendary class.
Gordon Tallis will never admit the Panthers are the modern champions.
If panthers kept Kikau,korosau, critta,leniu next year they would rip teams apart
He's so salty they won, especially that Luai got his 3rd ring
@@bornyesterday1895 Losing is painful.
@@bornyesterday1895 here comes the copium
Mate, if you want to see a team torn apart, put Inglis at left centre for those old Storm teams last night.
If Mam is getting 3, Inglis would have gotten a baker's dozen.
Brisbane blew that game.
Those old Storm and Broncos teams would have turned the screws at 24-8 and buried the Panthers.
Funny thing is the Riff never cheated the salary cap to win minor premierships and Grand finals let alone a 3 peat 👀. Inglis is a great however its a team sport and the show ponys were beaten because they let their foot off and cocky. End result Panthers winning 👏. Give it when it's due
Gordies tears are so, so sweet
Critta also stood up, unsung hero.
Gordy sounds a bit salty 😂😂😂😂
Sitting there like a saxa picnic pack 😂
Phenomenal game of football, I cried a bit at the end it was overwhelming
Everyone forgetting how good Cogger was when he came on. Panthers looked like a completely different team as soon as Cogger came on the field. He kept digging into the defensive line and playing it out the back. He was instrumental in their comeback last night
Yeah definitely. Knights got a good one for next year, panthers probably should have kept him and let Luai go
@@Nic0909 Amen. Luai is a myth. Penrith didn't miss a beat w/ Cogger during the regular season.
@@Nic0909 I actually agree. I’m a Knights fan and I’m stoked Cogger is coming back. I feel for Penrith though they have changed his game a lot and developed him to be better. Luai should just get back to playing footy and leave the bad guy persona at home. Reckon he’ll re sign or move on?
Luai went off and broncos scored 3 tries 😂😂😂
@@3peatUptheriff those tries were scored on Clearys edge not Luai.
Each year Penrith from 2020, 21, 22 lost 3 to 4 players due to the Salary Cap and won 2021, 22 and 23 year. That is remarkable. Gus Gould and other legend's said they have 5 or 6 premierships in them. Time will tell.
Tallis still holding off on talking about how great this team huge reluctance
Tallis is in denial like he was at the gf 😂😂😂😂 ffs
Cleary wasn't BOG no way. He missed the tackles that directly lead to 2 tries
@@paulmitchell6485he admitted he played awful, but then made up for it. He steered his team to victory when the momentum was against them and they looked gone
@@imalwaysrightbut is he an immortal
@@imalwaysrighttwo tries to Panthers was "protected tactic" plays. One in the 63rd minute and another in the 76th minute mark.
@@jeromebukam1235 imagine having this hate lmao
Nathan Cleary will be inducted as an NRL Immortal when his career is done 🔥
100% he’s already twice the footballer his old man ever was… but he’s still a fair way off becoming an immortal.. defiantly destine for it though
@@nhraandnascarfanatic5907it’s not hard to be twice the player is old man was but is he better then joey was is the question
@@Palmwhat well this is true!
Definitely
He might need to dominate state of origin to tick that off the immortal list
I wrote down last week that Cleary was a good player but doesnt come close to Andrew Johns and the likes, and also i wrote that he doesntstand up in big games.. But i take that back and I eat my words, give credit where credit is due Nathan Cleary just proved me wrong ( I think he read my comments lol) you were awasome and mate i take my hat of to you. Congratulations Nathan Cleary and the Panthers.
It’s once in a generation how the panthers have managed to do this 3 peat. The squad is young, they all played together in the lower grades, all are hitting their straps at a young age which allows the club to win comps by spending little $$. Then you got guys like leota, Dylan edwards, Liam Martin, turuva, who do their jobs well but are not superstars. Just a great mix of players at early stages of their careers.
pathways hey
@@kinchegayowie6167 yeh absolutely. Staines, burton, easily replaced
that's what having competitions from juniors up, pick the best players, enhance their game @@OlyMar83
the squad is also amazing that def helps
@@richardharris8745 I remember when they got rid of Moylan… I was like they are crazy. But now they have edwards. Who is a solid FB.
Those Magical moments from Cleary came because of his missed tackle on Recce Walsh and Mams try. He knew he made a mistake and had to make up for it and boy did he make up for it
Gordie and Goggles are just hating 😂😂
It will never be disputed that Lockyer, Thurston, Inglis, Slater and Smith all lost the 2008 World Cup!! 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Hahaha..Tallis the flog can't even admit Penrith are a legendary side and that this team has created HISTORY.
80's/90's teams, are great in their respective eras.
The game is EXTREMELY different from then to now. Good/Bad, take how you like it
From a TIGERS ride or die,
Well done Penrith 2021, 2022 & 2023, Best Penrith side of the modern era.
Gordy is right, they are winning in a very weak era of footy, no depth and teams are weaker, forwards barely play 40mins, Cleary only has 2 runs for 66m and he is the worlds best, kick protected by the ref all game, his runners offised at every kick, never penalised..FFS what a joke, no depth of players, bloated out scorelines every week, the semis were a joke...Im with Gordy...the game and comp is a joke
@@freedomofchoicelover3734 Cry more. That was your chance, and you were beaten by a champion team. No Flegler or Farnworth next year, and Reynolds playing with a walking stick.
Cleary should certainly be in the conversation for immortal status. At 25 has already achieved just as much as Joey.
Hasn't done it in origin.
joey shouldnt be an immortal either
Yeah he’s won 2 series of Origin
@@poasaolaaiga74 Isnt it three?
@@greybuck7011😂
The problem is nostalgia. Comparing a modern professional team to semi pro teams from the 90s is just ridiculous.
These modern teams would put 100 plus on the older teams.
Facts lol. If you watch footage of the 90s and before that. It seems like players never knew how to tackle🤣. Defense was so bad back then.
Leota and harris dominated broncos forwards. Not big like their opps but damn the motor & the will to stand and bang with haas, flegler & carrigan unreal!!!!
As a broncos supporter I agree. Payne haas was our best foward. Imo patty had nothing. Credit to Penrith such a great side.
At 3 o'clock Cleary is the man of the hour again, only 25yrs of age with his third NRL title is astonishing at that age. This guy has potential to be the man of every hour around the clock.
Again...this is the 1st time in any final or Origin he has brought his team back from a deficit..1st time....yes...FACT...hardly a world beater
Gordy needs to wake up to himself and just give credit where credits due. Other than mam getting a hat trick where else in that game did he stand out? Cleary had 20 minutes left and stood up for his team not just by scoring but the 40/20, the set up up for Stephen, the plays and catching the ball on the full from Reynolds. Brisbane played a 60 minute game and Penrith showed why they’re the best. Neither of these teams are my teams so I have no bias opinion and I think Penrith always had the upper hand with their finals experience. I’m glad broncos lost because you don’t win GFs for playing 60 minutes. They’re young and I think a lot of those players have a lot to learn and to get rid of their egos. I’ll say another thing too is that these guys comments about Cleary not being a great, I get it cause he’s still so young and has a long way to go BUT I guarantee you now, if it was Reece Walsh that did those things last night and not Cleary they’d be all over sucking up his ass raving about how he’s already immortal. They just wanna find any way to say Penrith isn’t as good as they actually are. They need to stop talking about Reece, like he is a great player there’s no denying that, but it’s feeding into his head way to much and it comes out onto the field and off. He needs to be humbled and brought back down to earth. I don’t see Nathan being an arrogant, self entitled prick.
Hate it, hate Penrith but they really are a fucking great team and they deserved it last night
Tallis pushing the News Corp News Ltd lol
Yep, for those who don't know, News Corp, the owner of Fox Sports, own the Brisbane Broncos. So if you're wondering why the bias against Penrith, it's not hard to understand. If you want to hear someone crying as much as Tallis, listen to Michael Ennis' embarrassing commentary on the Fox version of the Gf. When Mam was scoring tries Innes was screaming like he'd won lotto. When Penrith sealed the game he was silent for about 20 seconds and his co-commentator must have nudged him under the desk to say something. What a flog.
Gordy can’t handle the fact that this Penrith team is the best of probably all time
It's all good to create a what if situation, but you can't go comparing sides from the past. So many different rule changes from yesteryear 'til now. You can't even compare the Storm sides from 2006-2009 to the Storm sides of 2016-2020.
Single handedly? Come on! Yes he did great but you gotta give credit to some big game plays ie Leotas charges, Crittas game changer moments; picking up loose ball, forcing x2 drop outs, scoring a try through brute strength and his defensive efforts!
Damn Tallis is SALTY lmao.
Gourdie is a SOUR (very) OLD MAN.
Die hard Panthers here have been for over 30 years. Amazing game by the boys, never give up. Absolutely floored by the comeback and to be the best team of the modern era. As for Cleary as an immortal. I am pretty sure if he keeps going as he has the last few years and can help win Origins and International's he will get there. Just not yet as an immortal. That is rarified air.
Nathan will be the 🐐
Gordie always brings up Queensland players all the time
And the media jerk off Cleary. Cleary missed 3 tackles that lead to 3 Broncos tries yet nothing was said. No where near being the GOAT and never will be
Because he’s biased. Typical Queenslander. Cronk is the only impartial Queensland pundit.
Cause NSW are trying to act like the last decade and a half didn't happen lmao
@@Cranvelly fact, cause he spent time with the roosters
Andrew Johns is an immortal and achieved less then Nathan Cleary.
Dont like panthers but Cleary and the team is amazing cant help but applaud there performance. Cleary is a GOAT already and panthers are the best team in the modern era .
He's the GOAT already ?
What are u taking ?
Gordon is the biggest hater, what now fool????? Qlders just dont get finals.
Nathan Clearly just a master class . !
No one wants to give Nathan his credit
2 runs in 80mins for 66m...whoopy doo, work rate ZERO, barely tackles..hides behind the ref protected players to kick...hardly skillful...1st time in Clearys history has he brought his team back from a deficit, Origins gone hiding every single time, had one good second half and they claimed he was the worlds best, FFS give me a break DCE played all over him the past 4 years, only after his team put them in front by 20 at half time did cleary decide to do something...people need to look closely at what he actually does and DOEST do for ALL of the game
@@freedomofchoicelover3734it’s ok man I’m here for you ❤
@@freedomofchoicelover3734He's an overhyped player. He's average, at best. You only need to look at how Panthers faired when he was out injured/suspended over the last 2 years. Jack Cogger & Sean O'Sullivan kept them winning. They didn't miss a beat. I reckon that if Penrith had Luke Brooks as halfback, they still would've won, on Sunday.
@@BigMan.270 very true, great points, same goes for Luai, they kept winning without him, and failed at Origin badly..the year they won origin was against the worst Qld team in history, i reckon Luai faked his injury as Mam was running all over him, he didnt seem in too much pain on the sideline, JT and Cronk and others have played with one arm in big games
Nathan Cleary is 25 and already got more chips and clive churchill medals than Joey and JT, he has a origin series under his belt, a world cup and not only he has those premierships but he got them in a 3peat that hasnt been done in 40 years. Again, he’s 25 and already doing things no other half has done. Think about what his career is going to look like when he retires..insane
And missed out on a fourth ring by a converted try in the 2020 GF.
@@Sensei_Sifu this team would've destroyed them tho. They'd go over 30 points imo
Gordi tryna put words in their mouths... dude is one sour guy who seems to hate Panthers.. 😂😂... Nathan Cleary Greatest Immortal Of All Time.
I was so happy seeing his reaction after losing, Bloke was shocked 🤣🤣
I’m older bloke, I can admit that these younger players are 10x the athletes and players than what they were 30 years ago. On top of that they playing for longevity that’s not weak that’s smart. Talis talks about his old times to much
Cleary definitely the goat
Nathan cleary the legendary chin
Guys give NC his du credit. No one in the NRL era have achieve what he achieved last night. He's won a SOO series and a world cup for Aus already. What more is there to win?
Premiership, Origin and Test match in the same calendar year. Can you guess who did do it? Heres a clue not from NSW
@@robbielawson6528 It's about his performance last night. Greatest comeback in gf history. Almost single handedly dragged his boys over the line completing the historical three peat. I'm almost 40. Never witnessed anything like that in my entire life.
@@josephdamien5888 He had a blinder no doubt. NO ONE wins a game single headedly GF or not. Just annoying to hear immortal thrown about so readily. A Champion team beats a team of champions every time.
@@robbielawson6528 Yep Immortality definitely not yet. He has to dominate rep football for sure and perform consistently at that level. Long way to go yet!
Gordon was gritting his teeth severely
TALLIS - "THE RAGING FOOL!!!"
You can’t exactly use the storm because they broke the salary cap 😂
Gordy don't like mentioning the Storm and the salary cap
In a Rugby League player poll, an overwhelming 49% of players voted for the Storm as the dirtiest team in the competition.
Yes, they are the best ever.
Gordon speaking of the running athlete in the 80’s v the Bolt(s) of today …
Flo Jo set the 200m women’s record in 1988 and it still stands today
Jus accept that the panthers today are greater than any rugby league club team that has existed in the game.
Thanks
Did they forget Critta was playing?
You cannot compare different generation teams. Right now Panthers are the best hands down and will be put down as one of the best teams ever. This coming from a WARRIORS OG, UP THE WAHS🦾
Broncos Winners Of our Hearts 💕💕💕 from a number 1 fan
Dam Cleary was awesome one of the best grand finals I’ve watch in long time
Cleary was undeniably spectacular but a few other notable mentions, the deception from Mitch Kenny at hooker, Cogger straightened up the attack massively, the magic touches from Crichton, and the supercharged twin turbo motor of Leota.
I never seen anyone who turned the game around like that.
Even if Cleary wins 5 or 6 premierships, Gordie would not give him any credit
What's scary is Reynolds and Johnson are at the end of there carer's clearly just getting started
Stephen crighton 100th game and been to 4 grandfinals won 3 out of 4 amd scored in all 4 grandfinals what an achievement 👏🏽
I'm not even a Penrith supporter but if this team wins a few more premierships this team WILL go down as The Invincibles, just as the 1980 bulldogs were known as The Entertainers. Even though I'd want to see my team hold up the trophy, part of me wants to see this Penrith team go on to achieve 'Invincible' status.
Why do they have to win a few more they are already the best team the nrl has ever seen..
glad someone can comment a rational opinion without crying. Good onya champ👍
I really hope Cleary can dominate in State of Origin as well in the years to come.
He's already done it. Where were you in 2021?
Looking at Parramatta and the pre salary cap era from a different angle, they didn’t have the money that their major competitor, Manly had. Those Manly sides were full of internationals after raids on wests, norths and easts. It wasn’t chopped liver they beat. Also, saying that the great Dragons sides were worth three times the opposition is crap. Wests were the millionaires in those days and spent like drunken sailors in effort to beat the Dragons. And for what it’s worth, Ray Price and Brett Kenny should be immortals.
I agree. Add Steve Edge, Steve Mortimer as they led their teams from the front. Mortimer's Blues team crashed the Queenslanders and turned the tide when the Maroons were so dominating.
@@eh5369 that was because of Kennys brilliance though nothing Mortimer did.
@@albertkelly7129 you are obviously a one eyed yellow and blue supporter. Any mention of a Canterbury great like Mortimer and you close down the thought he could be an immortal like Stirling. Mortimer captained the Blues in 1984/85 in three matches (all victories) and was the first captain to lead New South Wales to State of Origin success. He led the way and inspired others to follow his foot steps
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Penrith is the best team in the modern era full stop! You can’t refute their record
Mam outplayed Luai so badly, that he faked his injury just to get off...what a cat
And what happened to mam? He was so quiet after he's hattrick. Maybe he was already thinking about the celebration parties lol🤣🤣🤣🖕
And Mam cried after the game like a sook lol
One thing people aren’t talking about is and this is throwing the cat amongst the pigeons is what’s to stop Penrith paying old man Cleary a lot lot more money to keep Nathan as the coaches wages doesn’t fall into the salary cap . There’s one to talk about 🤔
No one is talking about it because it's rubbish. The coaches wages ARE included in the salary cup.
We saw it with the storm, i cant wait to find out how many houses the penrith guys got
Ivan Cleary has just won 3 premiereships in a row?
Has Wayne Bennett?
Gordon talis on denial😅😅😂
The way Andrew Gee reffed that game should be a blue to all refs thats how you ref a fuckin game!
He's taking it personal 😅🤦♂️
Critta is going to be missed
Yes he is probably the best center in the game and he will be missed but Taylan May will be back and we picked up Paul Alamoti from the dogs.
I doubt it, he can be replaced
This has been the best team by far over the the last 3yrs that can't be denied even if you are a 1 eyed supporter of another club , the game is so different now a lot faster these players are way fitter they have to be , and concerning Nathan ... well as a half back he's achieved more than any player in this position, an immortal for sure can't be denied that .
Cleary is definitely a great player. Definitely pushing legendary class. Is he immortal status - not quite yet. He hasn't been able to dominate at SOO or Country level - YET!
Wonder if that is more to do with the Coaching style than his play.
In the first half - Panther Pack dominated the Broncos. Plus the Broncos had too many errors for them to get into any real position to have long periods of attack. I think that was where the Panthers won the game, in the last 15 mins the Broncos were just cooked.
Yes, Great teams do find a way to win! With so much depth in their club.
They will a strong unit for a few more years , ITS UP TO THE OTHER CLUBS TO TOPPLE THE GIANT
Anasta and Tallis......Beavis and Butt-Head.
Tallis on Wally's too funny
Didn't Gordon Tallis say last week the Grand Final hadn't sold out... where are the Penrith supporters....mmmm 82,024 people attended. SOLD OUT....
I would’ve love to see the 2014 Rabbitohs Grand Final Squad To Take On The 2023 Grand Final Squad Of The Panthers It Would Be The Greatest Grand Final Of All Time
Johnny Smith is a GREAT player as WELL
Warriors really fucked the club for more than a decade letting the Cleary's go. Thank god we are under new management and have Ivan's assistant as our head coach. UP THE WAHS!
Jeez Gordon pass the salt would ya
So gordan says they are if they win and they do and hes saying no now😅
Wow what a game this is why we love ❤️ the game but we will always be the greatest of all time 21 premierships🏆 Up da Bunnies
That was the best gf ive ever seen, equal to or better than the 2015 gf. But i agree with Tallis, as an eels and blues supporter he has to do more with the blues to be put into the convo as the best ever.
Why?
Bobby Fulton didn't play Origin and he is an immortal. I'm not sure why this topic is given much air as his 25. No one knows what will happen over the 5 to ten years regarding his health, the playing roster... I rather enjoy watching his path going forward then discuss the what ifs. Jealously is a funny thing.
It’s easy to compare…. Just check the data and they stats you. Make a few allowances for rule changes and you get your answers.
My counsel to Nathan Cleary is simple.. ignore the media hype about being considered an immortal etc... be focused, enjoy your game, and most importantly stay healthy as you are only at half way mark. What he did yesterday was a Tom Brady act of brilliance. The respect that counts is from the Penrith Supporters, his teammates and family. The rest especially the media can take a flying jump.
Buzz is right, Cleary will go on to do a lot in the next 10 years.
He's the Aus number 7 now so it won't be long before he's captain over Yeo lol.
When Teddy gets the marching orders to make way for the youngsters the captain will either go to Cleary or Yeo.
Who cares about state of origin lol. The guy is 25 with 3 premierships. If he gets another 2 he’ll be the best halfback ever. No questions asked
lol tallis said you can’t go back but he talks in hypotheticals
Are they the best team in the Modern era?
Buzz: Well back in 89" LOL
No I like Cleary but he still needs to perform like this for the Blues & Kangaroos and the best thing is he knows that he needs to improve for both.
I don't understand why they're so keen to downplay the significance of the salary, especially when you consider the players Penrith have lost over the last few years.
Hard to compare teams from different eras but I feel like the early 80's it was a closer competition and harder to do, however this last GF was pretty special.
exactly....todays comp is very weak, easy to win a premiership, players are more spread out, no depth, bottom half of the comp can barely find a decent half back, scorelines regularly in the 50s and 60s were unheard of in those days...the semis were a joke, you could walk away after 5 mins and know the scoreline..its a disgrace to compare it to the eels dominance, plus the forwards today barely play 80mins, love to see Ray Prices highlights reels for 80mins compared to todays weak forwards
The part timers of the 80s would get 200 put on them by modern teams 😂 it would look like a Men vs children.
@@DavidT97 thank you, you just proved my point, if players in the 80s were full timers, on steroids and only had to play 40mins a game, had a break when someone pansy tapped them on the head, were allowed to go back on after getting a kiss on the sideline, yes they would be miles better than todays players and teams, MILES !! thank you for the support
@@freedomofchoicelover3734 ok, haha believe what you want.
Thats why you cant compare them, They all worked for a living as well as play professional footy, it was a completely different game, they didnt have the technology to do what they do now. There wasnt a performance centre in sight back then. @@DavidT97
Darren Lockyer won many big games on his own back and I’m not a Bronco or QLD fan
It seems players from the 80 and 90 also don’t seem to get much attention.
Lockyer played from 1995 to 2011.
I should have put also players from the 80s-90s
@@user-cb5tl5fu3w
Clearey is the GOAT
Only QLDer’s say that Cleary needs to win State of Origin to be declared Immortal. Cleary was in the ‘18, ‘19 & ‘21. Those were the three years NSW won it.
YES, Cleary is declared GF Immortality.
DCE all over him in origin. He cdnt get it done then. Selective memories. Locker and Cameron Smith light years ahead in terms of achievements in the game esp rep football.
You might be right about origin at this point in time. However Cleary has something that DCE and the other two don't have and can never claim. HE
WON THREE GRAND FINALS IN A ROW and its never been done in the modern era. Pay the Kid his due and respect. And on Origin... he may still prove you wrong in the future as his only 25.. I rather have three grand final wins then three state of origin. The GF is the Jewel in the Crown
why is no one talking about brisbane ONLY doing short drop outs resulting in 3 tries ? everyone talking like penrith ran through the middle of broncos and scored all their points.
Nha bro that's just standard brisbane style they took lessons off Melbourne they both imploded last week's of there campaign
Well the other one they did was out on the full
@@Davechappelle445 Yes, 1 dropout led directly to a try, 1 was out on the full to give them possession at the 20 and they scored, other dropout penrith got possession and scored. all 4 short drops, penrith got possession and they scored on 3 of them. much easier to score from 20m out then 60m out.
I think that is called choking ......
Brisbane HAD to try those short drop outs because their defense was shot to pieces. Penrith won he game in the first twenty minutes by camping Brisbane on their own line and forcing them to make so many tackles. It was that early onslaught that told in the last twenty minutes. Brisbane had no gas in the tank.
Nathan is great but because he fails in origin I wouldn’t put him there no way
He goes to sleep in Origin games
He has won 2 series and been injured for others, he goes alright at origin and he is still only 25, halves get better in their late 20s so his best is yet to come.
Sorry your team lost.
Kenny sterling Ella grothe price peter Wynn. Coached by the legendary jack Gibson. That was a legendary team. For ever remembered.
Everyone talkin Cleary but Yall must of forgot about the Black Panther - " Stephen Crichton aka Crittala" !!
Nathan Cleary an immortal? Come on.
Three in front of him.
Alfie Langer, Jonathan Thurston and Cooper Cronk.