How to Turn on Flat & Narrow Runs - Beginner Snowboard Tips

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    Tips for turning on your snowboard on flat and narrow runs. Flat and narrow runs can be a challenge, because there is not much room to turn, you need to keep your speed up to get across them and they can busy with other riders snowboarding past you. Try and avoid these runs if you're a beginner snowboarder, but if you ready to try them I've got a few tips to help you ride these runs successfully.
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  • @gaadvis
    @gaadvis Před 7 lety +22

    All skiers should see this video. I don't have any problems with narrow runs anymore, but when you're learning, it's so annoying that skiers stay at the same level as you, plowing to slow down, but are in the way for you to make any turns.

    • @Woollzable
      @Woollzable Před 3 lety +3

      Yepp, skiers should not be skiing next to a snowboarder on a flat narrow run. A beginner snowboarder might need some space to get on his/her heel edge.

  • @BeyondEcho95
    @BeyondEcho95 Před 3 lety +2

    Your videos have been so helpful! I'm now able to tackle black runs without biffing it and I have never enjoyed something more in my life than snowboarding! To everyone worried about stopping, I had it down after my second day on the hills. Instinct will kick in. My tip, don't do a short bunny hill to learn stopping and turning. Do a long green or mild blue.

  • @Sickboyfriend
    @Sickboyfriend Před 9 lety +80

    I have done couple of narrow runs recently. The cliff side always scares the crap out of me.

    • @ChildOfHephaestus
      @ChildOfHephaestus Před 9 lety +15

      Oh my god yes. Sometimes I'll even ride goofy (I'm a regular rider) so my back isn't towards the cliff, it just scares the crap outta me.

    • @amandawinit842
      @amandawinit842 Před 5 lety +1

      Glad I'm not the only one!

    • @amandawinit842
      @amandawinit842 Před 5 lety +7

      Everyone whooshes right past me and I'm like "ARE YOU NOT AFRAID TO DIE? THERE IS A CLIFF!!"

    • @MrCheeryeah
      @MrCheeryeah Před rokem

      @@ChildOfHephaestus it’s been 7 years how you doing

    • @ChildOfHephaestus
      @ChildOfHephaestus Před rokem

      @@MrCheeryeah Graduated from school, lived in Italy for a stint, am now legal drinking age…all good things I guess! I live in Florida so no snowboarding for me. But at least I won’t fall off a cliff! How about you

  • @Umahdibro
    @Umahdibro Před 9 lety +2

    Hands down the best snowboarding channel on yt.

  • @CommanderK81
    @CommanderK81 Před 9 lety +7

    Brilliant collection of videos dude!! Total beginner here so lots of great stuff you have made me aware of. Keep up the great work!!

  • @tsikitsek
    @tsikitsek Před 9 lety +8

    Very good work guys.Targeted content, very well prepared video without gaps.Short and highly informative!!!keep it up yo

  • @bluekhack
    @bluekhack Před 9 lety +7

    Just a quick thought... If the run is very narrow then it is always a good idea before trying to slow down sharply using heelside to make sure that there is noone behind you - especially skiers who tend to go faster - who might want to pass besides you. They may be surprised and run over the side of your board.

  • @mrsmjs1550
    @mrsmjs1550 Před 6 lety

    Hey man. I’m a rookie snowboarder and your videos have helped me so much! Been boarding three times now and I’ve got my heel edge, toe edge, and my S’s moving down some blue runs! Many thanks!

  • @mayanthing2641
    @mayanthing2641 Před 6 lety +2

    Hey there! I’m not a beginner, I’ve been snowboarding for about 8 years now, but those narrow parts -I just can’t do. Some skier once in my first years just crushed into me, and since than I have a hard time snowboarding when the slope is crowded. I feel embarassed in front of my friends, since as I said, I’m not a beginner. Your video gave me some more confidence... I’ll try what you said next week.

  • @nabatje
    @nabatje Před 8 lety +3

    Your videos are help me to improve my skills. Thank you.

  • @gromarie3501
    @gromarie3501 Před 10 lety +2

    Great videos, a lot of answers to all of my neewbee wonderings! Look forward to get out and try your tips out :D
    Requests; how to approach and get on to boxes & how to board on flat land(keep falling on my back). Think the end of each ride was almost the most scary because I don't know how to ride on flat land with almost no carving.

  • @runepetersen6041
    @runepetersen6041 Před 7 lety +23

    Get low'ish so you can absorb bumps and stay in control. (Squat training before you come...)
    Quick sprays (mini turns) enable you to keep speed down without turning the board completely.
    Doing the slow heel glides, as shown in the video requires really good balance. I would not recommend this for beginners. You are bound the catch the toe edge at some point.
    The truth is that these traverses just suck. Once you can handle some speed they become easier, but if you are a beginner, if the trail is super crowded or if it is real icy, then just walk the worst parts. Walking sucks, but injuries suck more...especially from avoidable accidents.

    • @ouiouicroissant3213
      @ouiouicroissant3213 Před 4 lety +4

      Rune Petersen soooo true these honestly just REALLY suck as a beginner. it gets better eventually, but i would recommend avoiding these

    • @caitlinwest272
      @caitlinwest272 Před 4 lety

      oui oui croissant I absolutely hate flat runs as I always catch my edge, I tried staying on one edge but after a minute my calves were literally on fire, I can switch between edges but I really want to know if riding with a flat board is ok? If I do it I always catch an edge. I just think that riding with a flat board would make these runs so much easier but it’s so scary as I always fall over from catching an edge

    • @kira-lx3en
      @kira-lx3en Před 3 lety +1

      is it bad for snowboarders to ride on flat greens? sorry im originally a skiier and i want to transfer over to snowboard

    • @caitlinwest272
      @caitlinwest272 Před 3 lety

      soggy cereal I don’t think it’s bad for snowboarders to ride flat edged, it’s a good thing to practise if you want to do park. Riding with a flat edge is also much less tiring on a flat run than constantly having to go on an edge and it’s also quicker as you don’t have to scrub your speed whilst changing edges but you will be more likely to fall ~ that’s what I’ve managed to gather from all the videos I’ve watched 👍 and now recalling my last trip, I would agree with it hope that helps 👍

    • @baltasbatas
      @baltasbatas Před 2 lety

      excellent advice, tore my meniscus on a flat run 😰 my ego could not let me just walk

  • @carolinepage7041
    @carolinepage7041 Před 7 lety +1

    massively helped me this year! love Ur vids

  • @RoamTheWorld
    @RoamTheWorld Před 8 lety

    Awesome! Will go snowboarding for the first time in a few weeks!

  • @ZBB4499
    @ZBB4499 Před 6 lety

    Thanks again Kevin
    You got a new subscriber!

  • @JDawgBuilds
    @JDawgBuilds Před 10 lety

    Damn here in Southern California the snow's all gone!
    When I first started 4 years ago narrow runs made me nervous mainly because I was still learning how to control my board. Good break down video.

  • @Englishneo2k
    @Englishneo2k Před 7 lety

    i was with a group of 5 skiers of mixed ability and this was only my 2nd time on the mountain. Just come back from Morzone where there is hardly any snow and most if the piste is ice. Of all the runs i hated and stuggled with these narrow and flatter the most - greens... much easier on skis i assume. I agree that confidence plays a MASSIVE part in how you snowboard. i had bad main binding on back foot the first day which kept undoing which put me off the rest of the day. Took a whole day to get back trusting the new one. Everytime i picked up a lot of speed i would always slow myself down as i felt that if i did catch an edge on these runs, then it'll hurt... as you said, you need to sometimes keep speed up so you can traverse the flatter parts coming up. I hated to try keep my board flat as so easy to catch an edge. I think just practise on the same runs will help build confidence.
    Skier friend just had to keep waiting for me... oh well.

  • @kevin_m_smith
    @kevin_m_smith Před 10 lety

    Good tips! Thanks!

  • @wolfiegamerhdhd8456
    @wolfiegamerhdhd8456 Před 9 lety +4

    i remember the times i was always catching edges, pretty embarrassing. if i want to go straight I need to be in a weird position (as ma friends pointed out)

  • @nikolabolic7120
    @nikolabolic7120 Před 5 lety +1

    I lose control all the time on this flat runs... I gain just enough speed on hills to pass those flat areas and 65% of the time I crash. I ride goofy and every time my back leg (left), wants to turn on my toe edge... Thanks for video, Im gonna try out this tips this weekend!

  • @dean3583
    @dean3583 Před 5 měsíci

    Nice one. Cheers!.

  • @prefertobesnowboarding5475
    @prefertobesnowboarding5475 Před 10 lety +3

    These tutorials are the bollocks!
    If you have ever been to France, Les Arc has a lot of these kind of runs, linking the main wide runs, they're usually kind of shallow but then getting steep in some sections and are kind of undulating.
    I always find these runs a problem as a beginner because of the unpredictability of the terrain and I am always conscious of collisions because the runs and narrow so will always dive before I hit someone.
    That's something that bothers me is because I should be able to turn or stop in time before it comes to a collision. You mentioned there about catching an edge and I have done that a lot and the video also shows me why the edge is catching so I can see why its doing that.
    The panicky bit for me is hitting someone, being able to turn without panicking about hitting someone I guess is something I will have to work out??
    Thanks,
    Steve

  • @Ivan-yo4hy
    @Ivan-yo4hy Před 7 lety +1

    Thx alot Kevin, last year i managed to do toeside and heelside just thx to your vids in 1 day. Snow coming soon, lets do those S turns! :D
    Since i did rent only, can u help me with buying my 1st board? At my height/weight (175cm/70kg) i find mixed results. I did find a nice 150 chamber directional TT with 2 cm setback. I do like to be more agile rather than go ultra fast so will this thing be 2 small for me? U are the most experienced person i "know" (LOL), i dont find competent enough people around me :)
    Thx in advance and happy shredding!

  • @inmotion_snow
    @inmotion_snow Před 10 lety +3

    epic stuff thanks, have learnt a lot from your videos just takes time to put into practice. How should beginners prepare mentally for tricks or jumps they have never tried before? that's my main challenge, the mental block of popping my shoulder out. eg, rails.

    • @SnowboardProCamp
      @SnowboardProCamp  Před 10 lety +2

      I think the you're mentally prepared when you've put in all the practice that leads up to a trick. For example with rails you build yourself up by getting really good at boxes first. When you put in the practice then you'll feel confident to take it to the next level. I hope this helps! Thanks for the question and for checking out the video!

    • @inmotion_snow
      @inmotion_snow Před 10 lety

      SnowboardProCamp cheers! let the practising continue at hintertux in 5 weeks!

    • @christiaancallewaert1512
      @christiaancallewaert1512 Před 4 lety

      @@SnowboardProCamp i love you greetings from fieberbrunn

  • @JS-qg1ie
    @JS-qg1ie Před 5 lety

    This may not always be possible but waiting for a quiet time before you do the narrow part may help. Good advice from SPC to not do these runs too soon. These are where you usually catch an edge and hit the dirt. Get more confident on keeping your speed up on a blue run/ 2nd easiest, and try keeping within 3m of the edge. Runs on narrow paths are so much easier if you’re confident and you can keep your speed up. Having your board well waxed keeps you running better and you’ll get over most of the flat sections without stopping. Also keep your edges sharp at 88°. This’ll allow you to stop on a dime if needed or hit ice. Board selection is another key, get something that’s floaty (nose points up and lowest in the middle) A board with banana tech or magnatraction( wavy edges of the board) really help you to not catch an edge. Trust me, that really helps.

  • @neilhamilton2091
    @neilhamilton2091 Před 6 lety

    This was VERY helpful, heel edge makes sense so you can SEE! I do better on a steeper hill than those darned flat runs!

  • @markmathers5694
    @markmathers5694 Před 7 lety +24

    I hate these runs. I was at Aspen Highlands last year and one of these catwalks messed me up. I was doing powder the 2 days before and then on the 3rd day hit a hard pack catwalk. Very narrow with skiiers passing frequently. There was no place to turn. Kinda was trying to slide like on this video and caught my back edge and got thrown down hard. Was in massive pain the rest of the trip and lost all confidence. Still have no idea how to do these things. Thought I had snowboarding down pretty well as an intermediate, now I'm not sure. I'm not even sure how your making these slides on this video without catching the front edge. I was trying to slide like this, but I guess you have to be going a certain speed to the side before you can get onto your front edge to turn. Instead of transitioning into a turn my downhill edge was catching and flinging me into the ground. This has really shaken my confidence. Any vids that tell you how not to catch an edge like this?

    • @Mekhanic1
      @Mekhanic1 Před 7 lety +15

      It happens to the best of us. I was an instructor and have been riding for 25 years. Confidence is very important! I would be more agressive with your stance, movements etc. Because these runs seem easy, DON'T let that translate into small easy movements. Treat them like the bigger slopes. Use your whole body to turn and be aggressive with your movements and keep the edge up like it was a larger slope. best of luck!

    • @bartl.7390
      @bartl.7390 Před 7 lety +9

      My wife skis and I had to learn to ride these catwalks because she loves doing them. Anyway, I learned to keep a perfect balance on both feet. The balance is key as one time I merely turn my head back for a conversation and immediately caught an edge. I usually stay in a very slight edge. I stick to toes and save my heels for harder braking. I usually don't alternate back and forth unless I need to - high traffic areas.

    • @mayanthing2641
      @mayanthing2641 Před 6 lety

      Bart L. X

    • @donmueller626
      @donmueller626 Před 5 lety

      Fast, icy, narrow catwalks are the worse. Black diamonds are much easier. That being said, get a board with magne traction. They hold an edge better than any other board. But even on catwalks, they're not miracle workers. If, it all possible, go on days when the slopes aren't too crowded & spend time building your confidence.

    • @Jeph629
      @Jeph629 Před 5 lety

      Catwalks/moving in generally a straight line and avoiding catching the front edge is a poorly taught skill. GOT THAT [alleged] INSTRUCTORS!?!?!

  • @jackgammans
    @jackgammans Před 10 lety

    Nice vid

  • @aZeee
    @aZeee Před 7 lety

    Quick question, I guess im a beginner snowboarder but i feel confident riding and starting to do beginner tricks. When i was going pretty quick in a tight space it was people to my left so i could not stop and it was a kid in front of me... I went right into him because i did not know how to stop with 0,5m of space. Help?

  • @CaptinDread
    @CaptinDread Před 10 lety +2

    Do you hve any tips on how to build a little confidense with some parts of snowboarding cause sometimes when I4m on a narrow run I like to stay near the mountain side of the run and avoid the side that does donw to the steep slope quite a lot this is generally anoying when on these runs cause then I make the run even more narrow for myself because of the fear of the edge, and also is there a good way to help build confidense for jumps what do you do when you try a new jump or trick?

    • @SnowboardProCamp
      @SnowboardProCamp  Před 9 lety +8

      CaptinDread To build confidence you just want to push yourself a little bit each time you go out. When I try a new trick I always build up to it, trying it off small jumps and making sure I take my time and I'm feeling confident.

  • @selocankoyuncu1575
    @selocankoyuncu1575 Před 9 lety

    Dear snowboardprocamp. . My problem is i do carve pretty good. But now i cant keep my back straight for low speeds and in narrow areas somehow i m always go in to carving position. And at the end of the day i have a really bad backache. What do u suggest

  • @coolbruh9387
    @coolbruh9387 Před 8 lety

    I need help with my toeside. I can carve but when I am on a long run and I am on my toeside a lot my calf burns so bad that I have to take breaks often

  • @Wozi2001
    @Wozi2001 Před 10 lety

    Hi guys I have problems with getting up button lifts I always slide out or catch an edge I know it sounds stupid but can you make a video

  • @XiaoWanLu
    @XiaoWanLu Před 4 lety

    How do you make long and narrow turns?
    I can turn ok but my turns are always so big. Some times I even feel like I turn way too much, how do I fix that?

  • @marcinpecyna8656
    @marcinpecyna8656 Před 8 lety

    I liked your coat in this video, what is it?

  • @festive_salad3493
    @festive_salad3493 Před 7 lety +1

    Well my problem is my snowboard when I try to turn I spin instead of move

  • @bedevere007
    @bedevere007 Před 10 lety

    nice

  • @JohnLumapaskeith
    @JohnLumapaskeith Před 8 lety

    Which Run is this one?

  • @Dyelbro123
    @Dyelbro123 Před 9 lety +1

    Just watched this video now. Too bad I didn't watch it when I learned how to snowboard in December. This was my weakest point, every time there was a narrow/flat part I would always lose too much speed or lose control :(

    • @SnowboardProCamp
      @SnowboardProCamp  Před 9 lety +1

      Shortkid110 The flat/narrows are super tough when you're just learning. Try to avoid them when possible, and use these tips when you can't avoid them.

    • @evaskoala6352
      @evaskoala6352 Před 6 lety

      Thanks a lot for the tips. I just don't understand why sometimes these flat narrow passageways are marked as green runs ...

  • @FireRowz
    @FireRowz Před 7 lety

    I haven't been able to get these turns down and end up flat basing on cat tracks if I have to go on one. For some reason I feel like i have no control when trying these and I end up traveling too far side to side. Could part of my issue be caused by having a full rocker board or am I just missing something?
    My mountain doesn't have many cat tracks but I know Whistler/Blackcomb does. I'm worried about not being able to handle the cat tracks when I go there in January.

    • @SnowboardProCamp
      @SnowboardProCamp  Před 7 lety +1

      +Fire Rose full rocker definitely makes cat tracks more difficult. I suggest trying to avoid them, but you make just have to get used to them.

  • @kechieslayeraa6919
    @kechieslayeraa6919 Před 4 lety

    I took my hardest slam at one of these, didn’t go at an edge and went way too fast, this quickly led to panicking and almost falling off the cliff. I fel so hard on my head my visors broke off my glasses. Im so scared whenever I see one of these again.

  • @alexestelle1773
    @alexestelle1773 Před 8 lety

    So I got a question for you. I'm new to snowboarding, but with the few runs I've taken I've been able to make it down mountains and come to a stop. But I've crashed a lot and have abosutely zero control over where i steer. If I stay towards toes i can kind of steer and stop myself if im coming towards something. But when i get going fast and straight down a hill I usually cant chose heel or toe. Ill start going toes and then i wont be ready and ill get caught up and slam the ground. Do you have any advice or beginner steering and control over the board? I'd love to be able to do S's does the mountain and be able to go fast.
    Hopefully after I accomplish this I can try hitting a little jump or box

    • @alexestelle1773
      @alexestelle1773 Před 8 lety

      I should probably also mention I do counter rotation. I cant really help it with the way I'm riding. and when I manage to go heels I cant go heels and slow down a little and keep going. When I go heels I basically do it to come a stop. Although at times Ive been able to continue. Any advice helps!

    • @HardwareAddiction
      @HardwareAddiction Před 8 lety

      +Alex Estelle I suggest you watch snow professor's videos, then watch some of snowboard addiction's videos.

  • @gloriaw8505
    @gloriaw8505 Před 3 lety

    I remember accidentally going down a narrow hill when I was 10, oh how those cliffs were an absolute nightmare for me

  • @sv8313
    @sv8313 Před 8 lety

    I actually enjoy riding on slopes like these.

  • @EnsoLLC
    @EnsoLLC Před 8 lety +1

    I feel off the side like that before Thought I was going to get lost and never found.

  • @Kazzzzzo
    @Kazzzzzo Před 5 lety

    And use your back arm to lightly steer.

  • @eztanezta
    @eztanezta Před 3 lety

    First time riding these narrow runs was sooo frustrating

  • @professor_meowington
    @professor_meowington Před 4 lety

    God I hate these slopes, always afraid of catching an edge. I usually go down with the board flat, and do a sharp 90 turn every now and then to slow down. But going on one of these with a flat board is really scary, board jumps in all directions

  • @enotamozg
    @enotamozg Před 10 lety

    поскорее бы зима) катать охота

  • @ronand8086
    @ronand8086 Před 10 lety +1

    It's May lol how are you still riding

    • @SnowboardProCamp
      @SnowboardProCamp  Před 10 lety +1

      The mountain just closed on Monday, but the glacier opens up at the end of June for five weeks. The elevation helps keep the snow from melting.

  • @normanbfifteen3468
    @normanbfifteen3468 Před 9 lety

    Does anyone go over the edge on these runs?

    • @SnowboardProCamp
      @SnowboardProCamp  Před 9 lety +1

      Norman Bfifteen haha! Sometimes, but it's not a cliff. If you fell over the side you might fall a foot or two, then land in powder.

    • @normanbfifteen3468
      @normanbfifteen3468 Před 9 lety

      SnowboardProCamp Id be hugging that snowbank for sure. I find this type of riding most difficult. I toe slide along or graze the snowboank to slowdown. This weekend I was working on straight line riding as opposed to wide turns which Im much better at.

    • @castellscastells
      @castellscastells Před 9 lety +1

      I did in Tignes (France) about 6 years ago. I caught an edge on a lump of ice, smashed my face (helmet and goggles luckily) on the edge and ended up in a snow drift about 4 feet down. It took me 15 mins to get out and back onto the slope and a kids ski school came past and didn't bother to check I was ok (thanks alot for that)! It made me nervous of these runs for a while but you have to just get used to them. The worst are the really flat ones, that's where you have a great chance of and edge catching, so avoid them if you can! If you are unsure, take your time and stop if you need to but let other people know what you are doing.

    • @normanbfifteen3468
      @normanbfifteen3468 Před 9 lety

      castellscastells Thanks Dude... Cant wait til November

  • @a2nh
    @a2nh Před 10 lety

    How to ride terrain that is full of bumps and ruts.

    • @Mc96P
      @Mc96P Před 10 lety +2

      Just bend your knees, they will absorb a lot of the shocks you get from the bumps and you will be able to ride a lot more smooth