Proper Snowboard Heelside and Toeside Turn Technique 101
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- čas přidán 22. 03. 2023
- In this CZcams video, we'll be discussing how knee steering can revolutionize your snowboarding experience. Knee steering is a technique that involves using your knees to initiate turns, rather than just your feet, ankles or your upper body. By incorporating this technique into your riding style, you can gain better control, manage your speed better, and increase your ability to ride steeps, moguls and more. In this video, we'll go over the basics of knee steering, how to practice it, and how it can change your snowboarding forever. Whether you're a beginner or an advanced rider, knee steering is a game-changing technique that can take your snowboarding to the next level. So, join us and learn how to unlock your full potential on the mountain.
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What a great video, clearly explained, clearly demonstrated, brilliant. Thanks Tommie.
Haven't been boarding for 12 years and I'm going in Jan 2024, Tommy's vids have been brilliant to watch, he's instructions are exactly how I was taught over 20 years ago....there's no school like the old school.
I will certainly practice this critical technique on gentle, terrain and focus on keeping my hands and upper body still, like you demonstrate, mr. T… I also learned that this is a terrific technique to make tight controlled, turns in narrow spaces and steeper terrain. PLEASE, consider doing some video where you teach a particular technique to beginner/intermediate/advance snowboarders, noting progression, improvement and success in your students.
Oh men, i can’t be more excited to take my trip to north caroline and practice all what I’ve seen in your videos. Thank you for the videos.
This is ONE OF THE BEST COACHING FILMS EVER!!!
thank you!! Indeed, there’s a LOT of talk about knee steering but like no one actually explains how to do it. Thanks to you, I finally get it
Perfect video & demo Tommy! Been preaching that 60%/40% weight distribution for 25 yrs. Every new rider, new instructor and back, fishtailing leg rider needs to see this video. Superb breakdown with static, simple, complex, freeride teaching model! 💪🤙💯
Bro that was so well explained. Keep it coming
Wish I met your CZcams channel 3 years ago! Thank you so much Jedi master for all these awesome tutorial 😍. Taking my snowboarding to the next level since I follow you. Your hoodies are georgeous btw
You are a savior! I've been learning how to snowboard for some time and had gotten good results, but then one day caught a very painful toe edge and hit my head hard. After that, I couldn't bring myself to make proper turns, but after watching your videos and this one in particular I got over my fear because I gained more control over the board❤. Guys, put that pressure on the front leg!!!
first person i've seen take a fall for teaching purposes, appreciate it haha
Thank you Professor Tommie , I’m still struggling with toe side and how to make s turns connect better. Can’t wait to apply this on my next trip !
This video FINALLY got me to fix my toe side turns! Thanks!
Thank you, love the video. I’m an old guy still trying to figure this out and I appreciate the instruction.
Thanks for the video! Going to snowboard for the first time ever in a few weeks.
I've been trying understand and learn how to do this. Thanks for simplifying and teaching. Winter is here and its time to practice
I'm her son watching this is going to help a ton you rock man!!!!
literally solved my switch riding problem, thank you so much
This was so helpful today! Had an indoor session today (I’m
From the Netherlands and we don’t have mountains, so the indoor with actual snow will have to do until my holiday to the mountains) but this knee steaming was such a game changer to get off the lift and get the super small turns and better speed checks going! Thanks!
Best description for proper turns out there 🎉 Also, analogy, use your knees like a torch 😂
I love the explanation of letting your shin lean on your front boot for toe Edge. Someone asked me if my calves get sore from toe side carves turns etc.. if you do this like Tommy says, they should not be doing the majority of the work. Thanks Tommy.
Best video ever.
I wish I had seen this video a few years ago before the mountain kicked my ass as I scorpioned my way through learning the fundamentals. This is perfect to show my man of whom I am not attempting to teach. Thank you!!!
1) i ordered some gear from Benetek and used it today on the slopes and it was awesome.
2) I have been watching your videos for weeks now, saving them all, and this video specifically I have seen over 30 times.
3) I appreciate you teaching, you’re masterful at it. I applied these techniques today and by the end of the night the combinations were coming together.
Truly unbelievable what good technique does. Again, thank you!!! I appreciate you big dawg 🤙🏽
Love to see it - I'm still a mega beginner (as admitted in our IG chat), but this is helpful. I think a key takeaway too is removing the fear and just sending it.. when I get in my own head, I start thinking about things too much and not letting my body flow.
Amen. Fear made me take many more seasons to improve than it should have
yup- my biggest problem is that I don't like to pick up too much speed, but I love a nice wide slope where I can practice smooth turns at a nice steady pace
Nice vid!!
Im a beginner with 6 days of Snowboaring and now I'm able to do short turns right and left, but away smoother then these u are doing ... actually the pressure on Ur lead foot it's very important, but beginner has me avoid that because of the speed u get.
I only put that pressure on flat surfaces, not on slops....next year this is my goal, try to do more energetic turn's !!!!
Thanks
1) i ordered some gear from Benetek and used it today on the slopes and it was awesome.
2) I have been watching your videos for weeks now, saving them all, and this video specifically I have seen over 30 times.
3) I appreciate you teaching, you’re masterful at it. I applied these techniques today and by the end of the night the combinations were coming together.
Truly unbelievable what good technique does. Again, thank you!!! I appreciate you big dawg
Dude, golden advice. Thank you. Too bad snow season is almost over in Japan
Watched the first 5 minutes of this and was already learning a lot. I’m a more beginner/ intermediate rider. 6 season of only several trips to Vermont a year at the most. This is great advice as I sometimes forget what I’m doing lol
Ride mostly blues.
Brilliant….. thank you….
Your website looks great!
Hey Tommie youre my inspiration i did my first backside 360 yesterday!
Yesssss! Love to see it
Excellent.
So I didn't have any particular explainable method to HOW I was turning and stopping on my board, I just did falling leaf on both edges and then into large S traversals as a beginner till I got the feel for switching from heel to toe, but I watched another video on this method and decided to try it rather than just riding how I normally did, and the control and edge engagement I got out of it was phenomenal, and I have no way of knowing how clean my lines were, but I definitely think it helps with carving as well, felt so much smoother and cleaner, at least it did for me, combining it with how I normally ride.
Yooo i just started linking turns today (with a lot of falling because it's hella steep in the swiss alps) and this will help a lot for tomorrow!!
Superb teacher
Cant wait for the season
Thank you so much
The new surf oriented boards have nose bottom convex and side cut set back for less front end initiation and more backfoont pressure as well as set back binding stance! Way more fun!
I could not stop falling trying to figure this out so I will try again with these tips 😤
great vid
Your awesome ❤
I was having the hardest time on heelside definitely trying this
thank you. I can't wait til i try this next time 'im on the slope.
Good lesson! Were you an instructor before?
Great video very helpful 👍🤟
Stoked you like it!
The best break down on how to do turns👍🤟. Will you do the same style video for carve turns?
Awesome technique !
Should I be starting the turn by rotating the chest just before knee steering?
Thanks a lot! Love your videos!
I'm going to go out on a limb here and say no. When you twist your upper body away from your lower body you become really out of balance on the board.
There is a yaw type motion with any snowboard just like dutch roll on an airplane. If you get too aggressive stomping the rudder down it will spin. It works the same way the knee is like the rudder and the edges are like the ailerons
I described this as torsional turn initiation. Technically what is happening is the board is having its shape manipulated drag and lighten different aspects of the board edge. Torsion twist needs to be more or less depending on body core weight distribution too. It’s all about manipulation drag characteristics to manipulate a change in angle of travel.
Tommy ! May I ask what’s your stance angle is how how far apart the bindings are ?!
Thanks!
No wayyyy! Thank you so much!
Can surf, skate, and kiteboard np but after a few nasty toe to heel wipeouts, am nervous and have lost confidence. How do you go from toe, then to flat board, then to heel to carve the other way, without going from toe side to immediate heel and eating it? Any tips appriciated
You mentioned carving would be different technique than knee steering? Could you elaborate in a new video for this?
It's really the same technique with the knee initiation but instead of stacking your weight evenly after the turn to slow down, you continue your momentum across the fall line with more of an edge angle to continue or increase your speed. (Slicing the snow instead of skidding... or spreading peanut butter as Tommy says).
Carving is different because when you’re carving you’re hopping from edge to edge instead of instead of using turns to regulate speed.
@@micahemerson388that’s not right. Knee steering can be incorporated in carving. They aren’t mutually exclusive
@@longebane Right, knee steering is used to initiate turns while carving, but knee steering alone is just that, initiating turns. I figured he was asking the difference between carving and just knee steering. Although you use knee steering when carving, just because you’re knee steering doesn’t mean you’re carving.
Does this technique change with a direction board? I have a Cold Bree and sometimes it feels like my board is so slow to the turn. Is that too much weight on my back foot?
I am very beginner and I'm really struggling to steer my plank. In one attempt I put all my strength to steer it and I injured my knee slightly.If I play more with Toes and Heels maybe I could steer it easier? You said on the vid that the plank needs to be on the edge to turn.
This is a nice snowboard for the money. The kids like it because it has the sturdy foot straps.
When you say 60% on the fron foot...is that just in the moment when you want to initiate turn, or all the time wjile you are riding? It looks to me that 60% rule is when you want to initiate turn, and when you are on the other edge, you than go back to that stacked position. Is that correct?
Watched about 4 of you vids today (plus loads of other instructional snowboard CZcamsrs) your instruction is way way better than anyone else I've watched so far.👏👏👏
I appreciate it and sooooo stoked you like the nerd!
Can I ride w you this year? Are you ever on the east coast?
Definitely hard to get good at snowboarding when u live up in the north east of Pennsylvania don’t think we had more then 5 ft of snow last season
Where is this place,the slope trail is long for practicing
Great stuff Tommy. Textbook breakdowns. When asked "Why 60%/40%?" I provide a teeter-totter analogy, drawing it in the snow. Heavier end will ALWAYS end up going downhill. Thus how backseat riders end up unintentionally going downhill switch. 🤙
Thanks for the unreal donation my dood.
I've been snowboarding for over a year but have only got out on the snow for around 9 hours. I find your videos extremely helpful.
This weekend we were away to an indoor slope England and have found that im starting to pick up on how to turn and this video has been extremely helpful. Roll on the next trip 🎉🎉
Yoooo! Love to hear that and have fun in the indoor place
i think this video best describes how to turn on a snowboard, no one teaches this!
Nice vid, is next one gonna be about board torsional twist turn? 😀
Def a great idea
Becoming American Malcom more!
Is it the front or back that should be the lead foot??
shoutout the goat
Hi Tommie great video! One question, during the turns you are not using the back leg at all? Only the front leg does the job?
Obviously im not Tommy but you absolutely are using your back leg it’s just that the front leg is initiating the turn using the torsional flex of the board. You will find that in softer snow and powder you are more on your back leg in order to keep your nose up.
@@jeffstewart4162 thanks for your answer! So u are using the front leg only at the start but all the rest are done with your back leg. Right?
@@georgemouroutsos3653 not necessarily, once you shorten the frequency of turns you’re going to be around 60% front heavy the entire time when using this technique. It’s only one technique remember, carving is different and more 50/50 front/back.
When you turn from your toe how how you do it without catching the edge of the board that where I’m bad at it
Ok when ur counting. Ur kinda going straight. Do u have your board flat or. Are u on ur heels a little.
set those high-backs nice and aggressive ... far to many novices boarders have far to much gap edge to edge ... when I flat board I want to be forced to have my knees bent...
I caught the edge just by watching it
It is a video for beginner but as a beginner, turning the board to point straight to the slope from a standing-still position (either on heel side or toe side) is also difficult that the video does not mention how to. It would be better if you can show the movement from standing-still as a beginner.
Any drills for building up confidence on putting weight on front leg? I found it’s really difficult to commit 😢
I found that it helped to practice the technique at home in my socks. By moving my front leg/shoulder in the ways that Tommie mentions, then swinging out my back leg as it would on the board, it helped me to be more comfortable with 60/40. As he mentions in the video, start of on a hill that's less steep, then work your way up as you get more comfortable.
It feels scary when I lean forward. I know I'm supposed to but it feels like I'll go faster. How do I overcome that?
When you start to point your board down the fallline its looks like you're floating. Your board turns where you stand. When i want to turn my board into the fallline i start traversing. What am i doing wrong. Great video's. Thanx from The Netherlands
Put more weight on your front foot and wait for it to come around, if its not coming around as fast as youd like maybe some hips and bring your tail end around which should flow smoothly and easily since the weight is towards your front foot
What i meant is what he does from minuten 7:24 till 7:35. Doenst look like he is shifting much weight. Looks more like twisting his body and lifting back leg.
He’s pushing his boot up against the binding. Squishing the bug which allows his back foot to glide behind him entering toe edge. Does that help?
I can turn left to right easily. But im dreadful at turning right to left. I ride regular left foot forward. No idea why turns are like this for me. Is it normal?
Can someone explain what happened in 12:57 in more detail? As a beginner snowboarder, this is my main problem with my heelside turns (surprisingly my toe sides are way more comfortable).
Get lower and let your knees eat it. Notice he straight-legged to make that happen. Don't press too much edge or turn too sharp, ride it out a bit further
Notice he has some bend to his knees typically but there he straightened out
Where is this please? What are are you skiing on? Slopes look lovely 🇮🇪
Copper in Colorado USA
Homie lying down behind you was just soaking in the advice lol
I try to preach knee steering to everyone, it's vital
What about powder steering
Do you use the back leg to apply pressure at any point through the turn ?
I’m pretty sure, you’ll need to apply pressure with the back foot if your goal is to brake or control your speed
as he said 60% on the front leg it would be 40% on the back leg
@@luisrivas7814 was thinking for carving
Damn i followed this Channel since i started Boarding, its so helpful 👍
Cant afford the merch though😂
I think I need to put more weight over my front leg and a bit more knee bend, I checked the tape and I look slightly more in the back seat than this even though it doesn't feel like it when I'm riding.
Same here. Going to have to do this this weekend
Back seat is great for powder to keep your nose up otherwise yea you don't wanna be in the back seat
Well what if im always carving
Is that an ultra wide board !?
U make turning look so locked in
Going to try this. My toes are always killing me
What’s crazy is that I do this naturally never knew it was ground breaking
I suck. Send help. Just 1 question. I ride Goofy. Sooo. Board is pointed down hill, I press my right knee down, it digs the front left of my board into the snow and I start to turn left.
I am now facing up the mountain on my toe side slowing down to a stop.
But now I need to point my board back down the mountain. How do I do that without catching a edge?
I assume I take my right foot and press my heel down and this will turn my board to point back down. Is this correct? Pressing the right heel down puts my edge close to the snow and boom. I'm on my ass.
If I'm on my heel edge going down the mountain I bend my right knee out to the side and I turn right..I'm now coming to a stop on my heel edge this time.
To get the board pointed back down the mountain do I just use my right foot again and act like I'm "pressing a gas pedal"?
Hopefully I have better luck on my up coming trip then my last one 2 weeks ago
When you are on your toe edge facing uphill, to get back to pointing downhill you don't have to press your heel edge down. Your board is locked by your toe edge, so you just release that lock by putting weight on your front foot, more in the center, and turn your shoulder a little into the direction you want to go. The front starts to to slip downhill. Wait until the board is completely in the fall line, then start pushing down the heel edge of the front foot.
Generally, to avoid catching an edge in a turn, you change edges when the board points into the direction you are moving. In this case, when starting from a stop, you are moving with the fall line, so you have to wait until the board is in the fall line before changing the edge.
@Frank Zunderer ohhh.. I have a tendency to keep my upper body sort of stiff. I guess it was from a Malcom Moore video. He said use your legs for everything for instant response . If you twist your torso and then legs you have a delay in response. Waiting for your legs to catch up. I guess I took his statement too far. Sounds like I need to loosen up and use that upper body too.
"squash the bug; open the door" - toeside to heelside. I learned how to ride switch so fast with this technique. Not sure why people teach that you steer with your rear foot. Simply not true
You need to do more hand gestures when explaining.. 🤣🤣
Speed is my problem; when I try to stop with my heelside edge, the board starts to bounce on the snow, and I end up falling to the ground (I keep my kness bent but doesn't work). This only occurs on ungroomed snow. The same doesn't happen on the toeside, and I don't know why the board doesn't bounce on the snow when I stop.. Anyone knows how to solve this because I'm creating a habit of only stopping toe side when I get a lot of speed and that's not good.
Are you moving your body weight when going heel side? If you keep it in the same position it gets like this. Also try to bend your knees more
I'm confused if I'm goofy or regular
Where is this mountain?
Copper mountain Colorado :)
so this is a what not to do lol been snowboarding 30 years and this wouldnt have shown me how to do it. look where you want to go! job done.
So technically you just bend your knees and lean into your toe side with your shins? And then heel side with your calves into your high backs? Seems pretty easy I was doing it wrong haha 😂
Is that Copper?
Yeah!!!
this video is 200% more effective if you apply it while riding switch 😂
Yooo