Watch Those Poetic Beatniks Provoke The 60s Generation
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I believe the parents who grew up in the great depression sheltered their children and tried to instill work ethic out of fear of the great depression, but ended up liting a fuse that still burns to this day
What a magical time to be a young person.
Pt was also high anxiety for males who were draft-eligible. They were not entirely the "best of times".
If you were white
Reality was an unwelcome intrusion.
"Little bird with your beak pressed up against the window...I have no food for you today, only death". Happy Days Episode
Oh yeah, I remember seeing this series and recording it on my VCR back in 1991. I haven't thought about it until now. Great series. Thanks.
Right with ya on this one. With all of what we are going through Right Now, this is so prescient you have to have something good to drink...Insane.
Beatniks were absolutely crazy, man! But they got discovered.
Hippies suck. Beatniks haven't left anywhere, man. They just multiplied. They live in silence. If anyone cared to listen those people would stop talking and really lay their ear down on the street and listen.
60 years later and we're still worried about the Russians... the more things change, the more they stay the same.
The Beatniks are fascinating. it's great tbat you were able to preserve this on film for future generations.
Russians n North Americans are competitor, now they compete for the market.
North America needs to be worried for the entire world now.................
More like china
Marta Nascimento I actually do get your back on this. I could say so much more about history repeating itself all over again but just go listen to The Wipers and "Nothing Left to Lose". We are living in a world of deja vu.
you should worry about your own government
@@ReDNaLzz Perhaps you should worry about stealing the screen name you use.
The world that is shown during the civil rights portion of this video is exactly what political and ideological extremists mean when they say they “want their country back”.
A world where grown men can speak to and treat other grown men as if they are children.
That world is long gone and if we’re smart, we’ll make sure we continue to move away from it.
We certainly aren’t far removed from it by any means, much more progress is necessary. Just a reminder that many people are still alive today who lived through it.
We will continue to have these same issues of division as long as any group is treated (in practice, not theory) as less than another group.
Here’s to hoping we learn to get it together sooner rather than later.
i met william burroughs in nyc in the 80s.
Not a person on which to model oneself.
Look at these guys, once upon a time they were the coolest of cats, now they're squaresville daddio.
John Steinbeck, in The Grapes of Wrath, has Californians hatefully calling Okies “Reds”. It was written in 1939.
I rather have Beatniks over hippies, emos, and modern hipsters any day of the week. They look classy as hell and have good jazz music.
Thank you!!
Modern day hipsters are pretty far removed from the actual hippies. They dont want to give up their self absorbed little lives to go be part of a real political movement.
They are interesting but as a gen z kid i cannot see how its any better than the hippies movement, that time and the whole culture taking the good parts of beatniks and expanding even more on that.
@@POOPGOD999 Look up the Kent State Massacre or 1968 Chicago Democratic Convention...
@@POOPGOD999 I loved the beat generation as well as the hippies. Thank you from a beat poet. Love Gen Z you remind me of us.
It’s so heart-breaking at 21:35 when Edna Allen-Bledsoe says she didn’t know how to use a microscope.
Yes! Very sad and so true of alot of our people during THAT TIME! However! Iwill NOT accept excuses by blacks today who say they cannot use a Microscope when the accessibilities and resources are at our dissposal.
Ralph Sanchico Homelessness is also a thing, so..
@@ralphsanchico2452 Hombray, wud abowt dee abildee to lurn haow to SPELL right?
You yankees are so melodramatic. Out of US there are so much hardcore places in the world and don't do the drama. Lmao.
@@2fiafisdoafw34 how do you know they’re american? Yall are obsessed with us “yankees.” Cant keep our country out of your mouth. Livin in your mind rent freeeeeee
What "radicalized" me was being eligible for the draft during war time, and reading everything I could get my hands on, while in high school, by moral philosopher Mark Twain, based on being blown away by _Adventures of Huckleberry Finn_.
@FredCarpenter-vv9ld When I think about it, it goes back to experiences for earliest childhood. I had two older siblings, and while they began school, I was on my own as the youngest, and I explored the outdoors in the area of the backyard. I was curious about the animals I saw, and felt they were friendly.
Everyone else I knew would have attacked and killed them -- I had no such urge; and that continued as my individual view, against the generalized violence.
And as the youngest, the rules were made up by my mother, handed down, and there was no court of appeals. In third grade, when I first learned about Lincoln (he was my first "hero") and his principle "Everybody equal before the law," I became a civil rights activist beginning with my position in the family. But everywhere was violent, and that was not my urge, so that was not an option for me.
Those and other experiences as an individual -- often dismissed by others -- informing my individual view from earliest childhood made me something of an "outsider" as an observer.
They were about being free and poetry because they didn't want war This is why I went to watch this I remember reading lots of books where kids could go to a concert and not be afraid to die only people who died started fights read books
I have no clue what your talking about. Kids can still go to concerts and not be afraid to die.. lol. Do I need to show you statistics?? Concerts happen daily in ever town n city.. nobody is dying
Born in 1964, i saw many ideas in everything i watched.
And it all came into focus, with one Poster.
An American G. I. Helmet , turned upside down. Filled to the brim was that american blood, with one drop falling. . .
To this day, I think of this.
Everytime there is A War.
Wonderchek III.
Studying about Black Mountain College and the artists who thrived there & led me to this video. Thank you for posting.
So relevant. Great piece.
Great documentary..
Salute.
Wow. Never heard that story before: about kids being issued DOG TAGS in the event of a nuclear extermination. OMG
Glad I missed that phase....but I do still remember the "DUCK AND COVER" Drills.
Remembers the poetry well. 😊. Remember the church banning Peyton Place. Which of course was why one had to see it. Thank you sharing this. 💕
Lana Del Rey mentioned beat poetry and im so glad to have discovered so inspirational and loving acts from the young black and white americans❤ thanks for the info content creator!
the aftermath of WW2 and the immediate culture that followed is key to understanding American culture and ideology today.
So true!
Well it was the counter culture.
What a great series
Oh man, nothing ever changes
Dear Mr Hoffman, as a fellow Hofstra man, I love your videos. I was born 2 years after you graduated.
A Hofstra Grad I was way back then.
David Hoffman Filmmaker
Man, dig these guys
What a treasure David.
Thanks Ma, thanks Pa.
"Cellophane wrapped in the black nightmare of the endless factory"...
The funniest thing is when people would buy an artist's album, just to destroy it.
I guess that they wern't aware that they were actually helping said artist with publicly & with record sales.
😎🤘🎸🥁🎤👍❗️❗️❗️
it happened with hip.hop in the early 90s as well. i was a teenager then and i always. tought to myself. once you purchase this CD, the rappers dont care if u roll over it with a steam roller, they are getting paid from the sale and its making.curious kids go but the CD tomsee what was so bad about it
Having a marathon watching of your work,its awesome!
I am smiling Helen. Thank you.
David Hoffman - filmmaker
History will always repeat itself, because there are only so many ways......
Beatniks calling Hippies out! It's on the playlist!
As they reference Little Richard and Chuck berry... is why Elvis was brought onto the scene. WASP parents were worried that their nice WASP kids were going to groove their bodies to the "black" music and YIKES...procreate. Hence, Elvis...even with all his hip jerking...was still an attempt to mainstream and tame black music and make it more acceptable to middle class parents.
Beatniks ,The First pioneer acapella freestyle emcees Rappers.
No, rap was prefiggured in race music of the 40s, even in country (there the sticatto into swing)
2:51 Rock n Roll was truly a “release” of emotions that were bottled up by the early 50s and into the 60s.
Early on the blues inspired mainly black artists like Chuck Berry, little Richard, Bo diddley and even the Isleys got the ball rolling.
Once White suburban boomers (either in the US or Britain) heard that, they responded just like the man at 2:51. They heard that release of emotions and immediately embraced it, albeit very foreign at the time.
We all break free in different ways.😉
great insight
A great time to be alive!
3:13 wow I see where Bruno Mars got his inspiration from
They called anything that elevated Black culture or equal rights as "Communist"
They still do. It’s jus called “woke” now not communism.
@@gibshredcamel FACTS lol
And today they call anything that elevates America "Fascist'. Same diff.
Just like now.
Yes...we can see now why they said this.
Beatniks were absolutely nothing like hippies. Some beatniks like Ginsberg became hippy mascots while kerouac hung out in towny bars, lived with his mom, loved Catholicism and Vietnam.
Why was I born in the early 90’s? I should have been a beatnik
Does anyone know the name of the man holding the mic for the two poets at 0:29 ?
I know you’re probably not going to read this comment David but this is my favourite video of yours
thank you Bilbo. Keep watching.
David Hoffman-filmmaker
there are two types of metal here... There's trash, that you can eat. The thing that's currently IN YOUR MOUTH is art!!!
It’s easy to virtue signal when one languishes in the garden of a free society. Conformity to being a strong individual responsible person is not the same as conformity to an ideology which oppresses its people such as fascism, socialism and communism. The irony is collectivist ideologies such as the forementioned fascism, socialism and communism require ultimate individual conformity to the state.
You are unfortunately very confused. For example, socialism has nothing to do with fascism.
@@yourmother2739 The founding fathers of Italian fascism, Giovanni Gentilly and Benito Mussolini were originally socialist. Fascism is a collectivist ideology, just as communism and socialism. Fascism is a variant of Socialism. It was created by the socialists to fool the Italian population into excepting government authority. In fascism the individual is subordinate to the collective and is a ward of the state just as it is in Socialist state. The right and left wing of an evil collectivist bird!
I think his point was they’re all collectivist ideologies. He doesn’t sound confused at all.
One should not prescribe such undefined things as “strong” or even “responsible” strong how? Responsible to what? I also find this restrictive mindset odd as if there is an ultimate end state to society. As if there’s a “most free” society an end to history. It’s completely a-historical we see at every point of history constant change and though changes aren’t always positive said changes lead to a historical trend towards more freedom. To think that we can’t hypothetical be more free or that people should not fight for further freedom is the ultimate authoritarianism the authoritarianism of complacency
The state is a problem. We need community,
This seems to be a documentary in the civil rights movement and a good video. Not much about Beatniks here though.
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Thank you
David Hoffman Filmmaker
Don't forget the great Leroi Jones.
I used to get togather with friends and we'd get stoned and freestyle rap. I guess we were kind of the new generation of beatniks.
British Beatniks were more likely to listen to Trad Jazz. Rock and Roll was for Teddy Boys.
Elvis was just a patsy, an image, a cash machine, nothing more, nothing less. Even Sam Phillips himself said that he had to find a pretty white boy who could sing black music, because he knew "Whites" could sell records.
Yup.
Hell of a lot more than that obviously.
Where did the beatniks dissappear to?
Great film... confusing title
You better watch those poetic beatniks. Might provoke the 60s generation.
What you miss is that J. Edgar Hoover was owned by the Mafia so concentrating on the Left was a safe way to give the enormously powerful Italian crime families a pass. While Communism certainly deserved to be opposed, the incompetent way it was usually done GAVE the Commies converts they would not have otherwise had. The strategically indefensible (if you can't justify war militarily, you can't justify war) Viet Nam war alienated those who were lied to about it and many of those who fought it. (It was not a second Korean style war.) Of course the Russians made the same stupid mistake later in A-stan, but the US doubles down on its military misadventures.
Agreed. Confusing title. Who was provoked? Didn't they inspire the 60's generation, not provoke it?
Ken Aldrich the status quo. Beatniks was what the public love to hate back then
@@kenaldri4982 I agree how much younger than I studied the beat mixer bunch of clown spell note b******* smoking dope they hated athletes they hit anyone always better looking on them feel like this for a School shooters f****** idiots morons we'll put this video off please gigantic liberal , commie!
6:57 LMAO. Conservatives being wrong about everything since well, forever.
the guy at 4:40 looks like casey neistat
"Beatniks" pre "Hippies" The "Beatniks" were on the way out by '65 by '66 they were transition to " Hippies" by '67 the transition was complete.
What's the song at 4:02?
@ 21:28 crushes my heart what African Americans went through
Boss, Daddy-O... This is what happens with the young teen aged darlings who moved to the city and have too much time on their hands because they have no farm chores responsibilities to occupy the thoughts in their young impressible minds.
Not a drop of irony.
That song at 14:00 is nice lol
8:08 sounds like The Director of Red Dawn got his idea from this man
Yet there is no lie
Those hydrogen bomb tests killed a lot of innocent people, or left them to a long painful death.
R.i.p Paul Jacobs for one
We received so much brain washing and experienced so much fear--it was stupid. No wonder we wanted to drop out, because we had absolutely nothing to lose.
What's the name of the series-documentary?
Makin Sense Of The Sixties -- 6 Segments.
@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker Thank you so much!
I knew it.. there is is.. PBS. but not the PBS show I was thinking of. the one where they followed a family around in the early 70s and did a followup 10 years later?
You mean about that mall? Hezekia channel or something like that name has that video.
I always notice with the old black&white nuclear blast imagery that somehow the camera itself never shakes!
Hmmmm
Because the shockwave travels at the speed of sound. When you are far enough away to be able to safely film a nuclear blast, it takes a good while to get back to you
Zetetik - it's miles away with huge lens
Music? 9:35
Mom's meatloaf and dad's lectures were what encouraged poor study habits and juvenile delinquency. Rock 'n' roll was the only thing that drew kids back to their homes, because that's where their record collections and record players were.
This video barely talked about beatniks...clickbait!
It's because the guy that puts it on here as a communist.
If the squares an conservatives ban something, that just makes us want to go out and get it. Rock n Roll is one of the few things that makes sense. Yes parents an I had our conflicts over that. Sadly, the likelihood of WW3 is greater now. So I have been pushing for a nuclear freeze since the 80's. I remember those duck an cover. Yeah our bodies would be a speck of dust at wherever we were at. We have progressed in many ways but still have a long ways to go ✌️✊
poorly aging boomers like you should pipe down
who's the guy in 0:08?
Oh wow, this looks familiar.
Rock&Roll isn't white, it's more black than white. First there was Blues, R&B, and with a little bit of this and that it became R&Roll. Sister Rosetta Tharpe was very important, and later on you got Jackie Brenston, Little Richard, Chuck Berry, Bo Diddley, etc... The whites loved it and caught on quickly, like Elvis, Jerry lee Lewis, Eddie Cochran, Gene Vincent, Link Wray, etc...
But it all began with the blacks.
10:17 hmmm this sounds familiar...........
MOONLITE RUSTY BALLZ
Wrongly titled
I was a younger laddie, girl, I do..remembered.those time's..beat nixed, wrotes poetry, singer's, sangs songs, hanged out clubs house, cafes, places, penna, states, Baltimore, Maryland southern Maryland, New Jersey states, commentwealth, New York, states, city green with villages, loding dodg..🚢 🚢 🚢..ships..goes out and comes n...
Dude holding up sign saying "Make Alabama White Again". HMMMMMM. A. HMMM. A. HMMMMM. I wonder who might that have been? Don't you? People Do.
@a guy surely you jest.
And you bought hope and change! Ha ha defining someone by a campaign slogan is not just shallow but ignorant ! Enjoy you're brainwashing pal !
0:01- OMG! It's that Goonie, Mouth!!
The idea that Communists were plotting to take over was ridiculed by Communist plotters. What the adults of the 1950s and 1960s didn't understand is that their children could so easily be culturally and politically lured away from their families. Dad would tell his family not to listen to the Communists, and the kids eventually left him to say that to his empty house while they listened to Rock and Roll.
By the time I was born in 1962, society was "Liberal" and so was I. Now that I've seen a couple of generations raised both Communist - as though it has always been so - and racially prejudiced against Whites - as though Whites hadn't voted Democrat for generations - I understand that societies are dissolved by playing Pied Piper to their young.
The Government-controlled society that took hold during the two World Wars was also the product of Social Engineering, as was English society for a long time. Today's Communists displaced that, I believe starting in the 1980s. The whole thing is a rotten trick and I despise it. Even when this Hidden Regime Change results in some improvement it is still manipulation of people's environment since birth, which is a form of enslavement using fraud.
WW11 Was largely about fighting fascism. THANKS THAT WE WON.
America turned out to be a tool for communism to Fight europe
How did the christians in this country fall for the garbage. Them above all, could see right through that..
Everybody knows who Carl Marx is
No, Jews like Jesus. The people used to say that to me at my job. Because I was a born again, Christian . They must of new history. I hate to say it, but maybe it's just another word for he that Destroys destroys.
Poor Michael Rossman I really dig a sweater! And if the mean nuns they didn't talk about it they didn't say anything I'm very young and I remember in the early eighties they spoke about it that's why I joined the armed forces to fight against communism and I've been doing it my whole life and I'll never stop! God bless I still want that sweater Mr rossmam! LMAO
13:52 drop the beat after that free shit😂
(0:28) I think that poet meant:
A nightmare wrapt
In black cellophane...
Weird that they connected Rock N Roll with communism. Rock was totally suppressed in communist countries. Rock represented freedom.
Havel the leader of the post-communist Czechoslovakia said it was the music and youth culture of the West that liberated his country.
@@SandfordSmythe😅he and Frank Zappa were friends
Elvis didn’t do anything but steal from the people the parents were scared of lmao
Yep
Born between Kennedy and Beatles 🙂
Lots of similarities between the Beat Generation and Millennials. Makes sense as the Beat Generation are the parents and family members of millennials.
I see no similarities at all.
old time beat stalker
good documentary, however nothing there about beatniks.
Interesting that a lot of the people here talking about rock and roll and how it challenged convention look like they went back to button down collars andconservativeidentities.
Great video again. This makes me so angry, and it should.
The same people so worked up about thought control are now doing it to children 10 fold worse. At least anti rock n roll fuddy duddies weren't demanding universal weiner removal and puberty blockers.
The roaring 20s sith its swingin was not very different i dont think? 🤔
the past is the past,very sad,BUT WE MUST MOVE FORWARD MAKE THINGS BETTER,NEVER FORGET THE PAST, BUT TIME TO BURY THE PAST ALL ITS UGLYNESS👹👹👺👺.WILL MANKIND BE BETTER??????????????????????????????????
M.A.D. ☠️😳🤯🤦
then later came the hippies.
At 12:54 Telling children the evils of communisim wasn't bad it was the best thing to teach these young minds.
It's brainwashing
@@chilldude30 no that's what communist did and if you ever lived in a communist country you would understand but maybe you do maybe you're a spy? The guy at 11:45 he's an actor he's in other documentaries as a Vietnam vet but in this one he's a teacher it's all b******* on this CZcams and you believe it it's all communist propaganda!
MAYBE YOU SHOULD RESEARCH.
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Cool daddio. America has gotten worse.