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- čas přidán 14. 01. 2010
- To support my efforts to create more clips please donate to me at www.patreon.com/allinaday. I am very proud of the television series I made for PBS called Making Sense of the Sixties. I had the chance to spend a year examining my youth and how I became an active member of the 60s generation. If you are from that generation or a child of the 60s, I think you would find the entire series of value. #1960sprotests #60s #partisandivide
I was 18 in 1968 and my draft number was 146. I didn't want to go to Viet Nam and possibly die. I had my whole life ahead of me. The war made no sense. We didn't trust the government or politicians and we were proven right not to trust them. That started everybody questioning and that's what we wanted. I wasn't spoiled, I worked my ass off my whole life. I later went on to spend four years in the Coast Guard. Young people take heed when the country wants to send you to war. If it was like WWII I would have gone to stop fascism and Nazism. But not for some land grab that some general wanted to build a base on. People need to fight if they don't like the government they have, just like we did in the Revolutionary War. We can't fight every country's battles for them.
But you get it, and you give a shit that it stops! We are innaficient citizens because we the hopeful; that would work towards, and pray for change are ignored. God knows your heart, the rest can go to hell Pal.
I truly believe we learn from history, some of 🇺🇸 us,but not enough of us to change much,but history has proven most of us have learned, not to bow down,and to have to bow down to your own leaders of your country, we loose our faith, thank God where all individuals 🙏, unfortunately some of these individuals are wrong,when power is used to gain more power that is when you stand back and protest ❤ it is a shame when people 🤔 actually support a government that they usually 🤔 don't even know the whole truth about there ways ,when a government hides things goin on and publicizes a false agenda to get the non believers to fall in line true leadership is dead .we will never agree ,,but maybe someday we can stop lieing to each other, its only over the last 3 years and the one thing I see the internet finally being used for is spreading to true word when leaders lie ,and it is spread in hours now not months or years ,now let's hope the good people of this country can tell the difference between the truth and the governments agenda. We are the most advanced people in time in history ever,lets hope and prey there is enough of us good true people to overcome the filthy liers in our government 😉 I think we still have a chance, its some other countries that concern me ,with problems our government seems to continually try to help but there agenda is more like control, our voice will never be quite we will never bow to unrealistic rules.seems like every time we get a real humanitarian down to earth leader. They try to quietly remove or murder the person,there is definitely a different agenda for these evil men in the shadows that are commanded to change our fate.
@JayBon napalm...
@@clicheguevara5282 Who better to simplify the Middle East Conflict than a fake Che Guevara.🤢🇺🇸
Send the Trump insurgents to jail or their early grave!
The Vietnam conflict was wrong. My father did a tour of duty as MedEvac and returned in 1966. My brother was drafted into the army and began his tour in 1970. He died of a heroin overdose in 1971 in Vietnam. My older brother and myself also served in the U.S.M.C. after the war. We were a military family. As I matured and began to study this conflict, I realized it was all about politicians and corporate America lining their pockets. We lost many young men and women in Vietnam, and in the end, we accomplished nothing but death and tragedy. There is no glory in war, not for me, only for those who can make money at the expense of killing and murder!
Not too many women. Vietnam was an ugly war, but as an affected Boomer myself, I spent years studying all the angles. The sad conclusion was that it was inevitable. However, we didn't have to lose it. We didn't actually lose it. But we had won by 1968 after putting down the TET Offensive. The North was ready to negotiate a peace. But when they saw the protests in the U.S., they walked out of the Paris Peace Talks and another 30-plus American boys died uselessly. After 1968, everything went downhill in Nam. That is how and why your brother died of heroin there. But the war was not over nothing. After we withdrew completely in 1975, North Vietnam murdered a couple million people, and the neighboring nations of Cambodia and Laos saw similar upheavals, with six million dead. So the U.S. presence had held back this slaughter. If we had been allowed to win, it would not have happened. It was Walter Cronkite and the U.S. media that really poked the holes in the boat.
@@deaddocreallydeaddoc5244 Disagree completely, who benefitted from this war! The same people who are making billions off the Ukraine/Russia war.
@@RELopez-mk4ic Who would that be? So far, we are saving money by sending obsolete equipment and munitions to Ukraine. No new weapons are being made or sold to anyone. So who's making ll the money? As for the old concept of the Military/Industrial Complex, it was real, but that does not effect the momentum of history that caused the war to happen. You obviously are focused on accusing the U.S., Government whenever possible because of your political orientation, and don't let the facts of history interfere. Go back to your playpen.
My older French reative went to Vietnam BEFORE the USA.
He never got over who the American having helped save France twice then got into a stupid unecessary war knowing the French already lost it.
I was born in 1959. My parents were low-functioning adults. I was not groomed for success. Ironically my mediocre upbringing turned out to be a blessing in disguise. Mr David Hoffman Your films are giving me an education that I did not receive attending public schools in Los Angeles. David I'm grateful to people like you - Your art is critically important in so many ways. 🙌🙌🙌
Thank you.
David Hoffman
I second!
I feel the same, David. What a contribution you offered with these artifacts. It’s a gift to those that were not alive quite yet but yearn to understand that era of American history. ❤
He is a Marxist and it is an evil movement look at the flags signs like antifa and Blm of today now the Trans movement just pure demonic and evil look at its fruits
Ironically, these are the same folks backing the Ukraine, rip-off-America-war, today. We can be programmed for whatever the elite want 😂
1968 never ended for America. We're still locked in the struggle with no end in sight.
You've got to move on,you're not getting any younger.
@@Crezelltree4261 That's funny.
When a lot of American families came up to Canada during the Vietnam war, they didn't do it as a protest. They did it as as the only way they had to not risk their children's lives in a brutal government war. That is the best reason there is. They certainly didn't do it for the weather.
Ok but when I was 18 I got this letter and 4 years and 2 tours of duty in Vietnam I came home to a country that fucking hated me but I didn't run away to fucking Canada
Certainly wasn't the weather lmao
They was clever. Canada gets an European taste.
@@smithjohn9620 Sounds like it was well worth it
@@MrPercipience what I thought don't matter , I guess it was just my turn
I lived through this but it was, for the most part, a sidebar in my life. I was a young bride whose husband was dying of cancer. He'd been a Marine but was medically discharged when the cancer was discovered. He succumbed to it after 4 years. 23 years old. That was my hell from those days.
That is very tough. I am sorry.
Sorry for your sad loss😢
I was in Vietnam in 1968 and very unhappy person. I didn't understand the War, and wanted no part of it either.
I am very happy you are here today
Over 50 years later and I bet that it still doesn't make any sense.......
WhatbI didnt understand was that the viet cong were practically invisible and in the villages, it was impossible to know whose side anyone was on. There was no excuse for us to be there under those impossibly frustrating circumstances and the government and the military knew it. Nixon waited till he got reelected before he finally ended it even though he could have ended it much earlier. Then Ford let it fall in 75 and we disco danced our way into 1980. The whole thing was sick. I was so glad when the 70s ended. From.68 to 80, it totally sucked and now its even worse. So tired of this rollercoaster ride.
@@kenglavens6455
There was no excuse for what was done to you.
Betrayal with no accountability ever for what was taken from you is absolutely crippling to live with and try to overcome.
After 30 years, my uncle finally found peace of mind, when he decided to visit a Vietnam Vet Legion Hall.
The change in him was amazing.
Good luck to you, sir.
@@eileencastillo6323 Sorry..didn't mean to imply that I had been there myself. However I was an army brat during most of it. Several of my dad's friends were injured or killed..for what? My dad was able to retire out about the time that they were going to send him over there. There is no doubt in my mind that he wouldn't have returned. The whole thing was demoralizing regardless of whether you were for it or against it. It still chokes me up at times when I think of all the needless death and carnage that took place and the loves that were lost on both sides. It changed our culture and not in a good way. We were ALL affected and we ALL lost our innocence.War is so old fashioned,preventable and unnecessary. It doesn't just HAPPEN. It's planned and the winners and losers are chosen ahead of time. Politicians and the military industrial complex just like to play army with real toys. They really need to grow up.
13:05 When the dad says, if it happened again, I'd help my son get away any way I could. "Maybe the protesters were right."
I can't begin to imagine the kind of soul-wrenching agony that man has had to go through to reach that conclusion/realization. May God grant him peace.
This segment has always haunted me.
Still happening today with people questioning who they are and forced to choose a side, regardless of color.
@@Cowicide he who doesn't learn from the past is condemned to relive it ..
This is my great grandfather and grandmother being interviewed. One of the best men I've ever known and he sadly passed when I was only 5 years old. I never knew Bob but my grandmother tells me great stories about him and how he was her best friend. This tore a large hole in the hearts of so many families. Such a sad time in our history.
And every war since has been about money and mineral rights and military mayhem.
Pfft ...
A clue....After WW 2 many veterans used the GI BILL to attend college....Before this not many people went to college...For kids to go to college it helps that their parents went to college...Many boomer kids went to college....College encourages questioning....The most educated group of young people in the history of the country came of age in the sixties and it kinda backfired on the establishment who expected them to play along....They asked questions about the war....In a round about way the WW2 veterans birthed the anti-war movement.
I hear you, but I dont know if that's true anymore. Colleges are so monolithic.
Modern academia demands conformity. If your views aren't left-wing, your safety is often threatened and the administrators will bar you from speaking or fire you if you're staff. 21st century universities are the antithesis of "questioning."
That and they were completely different wars. One was on the level of mobilizing almost the entire national industrial output with a strict and moderated press. The other was jumping into a civil war that had been raging long before we were there with a free press.
@@t-bo2734 Left wing is today what in the '60s was Rockefeller Republicans. Nixon called South Vietnam illegally behind LBJ's back and told them to not sign the cease fire peace agreement ending the war and if he won in Nov. he would make sure they won or give them a better deal. The death toll then was 23,500 and 2,350,000 Asians. The pro-life party sentenced 35,000 Americans and 3,500.000 Asians to death for a campaign tactic...and 4 SCOTUS seats. Humphry would win if the peace deal was signed as the war was unpopular. Americans kill Americans when it suits them. See 450,000 dead FICA recipients from Covid in the face of a FICA cap increase. 6 donors own 90% of the media. Covid is still considered a hoax in some cable franchise regions.
@@dleet86 The Left Wing ideology of today is not remotely comparable/similar to what Rockefeller Republicans stood for. Not even close. There were no mainstream politicians anywhere in the United States promoting the extremism of today's progressives back then.
And you're correct, Nixon did commit treason in 1968. It can't be said for certain that Humphrey would've won otherwise, nor can it be said that a peace deal would have come out of the negotiations. When said negotiations resumed a few months later it took nearly a month for both sides to agree on a seating arrangement. North Vietnam-China-USSR wasn't interested in peace, it wanted to swallow South Vietnam and put the entire country under a Communist dictatorship. That's why LBJ continued the war as long as he did, and Nixon after him -- they knew if Saigon fell on their respective watches that their presidencies would fall with it. JFK kept escalating the American presence in Vietnam during his presidency for the same reason. No way would he ever have pulled troops before his re-election campaign. His foreign policy had been disastrous to that point and one more defeat would've have sunk him.
The CDC has acknowledged that only about 6 percent of "COVID deaths" were actually due to COVID. It is the Chinese Communist Party that is responsible for the pandemic. They knew it was airborne and very easy to transmit, and barred the people of Wuhan from traveling to other parts of China while allowing them to travel abroad. The CCP and the CCP alone is responsible for this pandemic. Xi Jinping and the China Communist Party are every bit as evil as Hitler, Stalin, Mao, The Kim Dynasy, and Pol Pot were in their respective times.
There are people today who still believe the Russian Collusion hoax and Truther hoax and the October Surprise hoax, and many believe that FDR knew in advance of the Japanese plan to bomb Pearl Harbor (dunno if that's a hoax or not). There are many people who associate Republicans and conservatism with white supremacy, even though the most racist presidents of the post-progressive/conservative divide were both progressive Democrats: Woodrow Wilson and FDR. The first conservative POTUS, Calvin Coolidge, supported civil rights, and the most conservative candidate in Republican Party history -- Barry Goldwater -- was a founding member of the Arizona chapter of the NAACP. LBJ was a lifelong white supremacist, by contrast. JFK and RFK hated Martin Luther King and tried to destroy him. They gave J Edgar Hoover the green light to wiretap MLK. Yet many today try to claim that the Kennedys were great champions of civil rights. The Democratic Party of 2021 has many House members with ties to Louis Farrakhan, and none have renounced him. The Democratic Party has always been the part of hate, division, bigotry, anti-Semitism, and war (four of the five big war presidents of the modern era were progressive Dems).
So yes, lots of people believe lots of delusional nonsense.
This is a good documentary. I remember America like this. So divided, so angry. There was a sense of hopelessness and unraveling of the America that we had been taught to believe it. It is good that this video captures that strain on America at that time as a people and the relationship that Americans had with their government and with each other. No matter how romantic the 1960's and early 1970s might seem, those were bad times.
Hi Explorer Mike. I just wanted to say it was also hell on earth as being gen X. I was born in 1971, but tired persecution was in in my school days, but about psychological stuff more than anything else. Many people I knew were going through terrible personal battles from the outrage of terrible people. At least I came from an open minded family and being counterculture myself, found brilliant other counterculture people to look up to, and also friends.
Best war book I ever read has to do with Vietnam war. Soldier.... by Ret. Lt. Col. Anthony Herbert. War is bullshit unless it's on your own soil. There's a war going on in this country as I write. Many blessings ya'll for a more peaceful and compassionate world. Society. Human rights matter.
My first job was in the Pentagon in 1968. I saw Nixon and Westmoreland walk down the corridors. There were many, many protests which affected how I got to work and back. I remember one time my bus route was lined on both sides of the road by military and police because of threats to interrupt commuters. I also remember active duty military with jobs inside the Pentagon being called to stand guard in military trucks occupying the Center Court of the Pentagon ready for deployment if necessary. This was my first experience with what felt like military occupation. Once I arrived at work with water dripping all over the Pentagon concourse - a bomb had exploded in one of the third floor bathrooms. I was in the ladies room and a guy came asked if anyone was there, I said yes and he waited inside until I left the stall. While I washed my hands he inspected all the toilets. I was young, it was a lifetime ago, but when I watch these videos it feels like yesterday. Thank you Mr. Hoffman for keeping history alive.
we all bled red....medic in nam
who cares?
glad you made it out
shouldn't have gone in
I was there as well, and I thank you for your compliment.
David Hoffman -- filmmaker
I was there as well. It makes me crazy when I hear youngsters glorify those times like it was all a "flowers in your hair" party" Getting a baton across your head knocked the flowers from your hair pretty quick.
By the way Dave..your films are just terrific, as is your impression of Larry David.😊✌
As a child of 10 in 1968, growing up in the states, I vaguely knew my older brother, who was drafted, and our mother were fighting against Vietnam. I also had three younger brothers. Our mother made the decision in 1969 to get us all out of the states and brought us to Canada. Seeing this, I can see something of what her and my older bro were aware of and fighting against, and it puts into vivid relief, why we left when we did. I know the spirit of that once great country was broken then by the assasinations, and has never recovered. Truly tragic.
Fascinating, thanks for sharing.
There was alot to be furious about in 1968.
The Four part series of Making Sense Of The Sixties was a profound treasure to me when i first watched it years ago. Born in 1955, I grew up with a black stepfather in Niles Michigan. I knew racism, bigotry and a bizarre sense of patriotism during the war in Vietnam when my older sister fled to Canada with her boyfriend to protest the war. Being a 13 year old in 1968, we weren't allowed yo watch ANY TV especially news in The late 60's because of the war. The only program we were allowed to watch was Lost In Space, and The Ed Sullivan Show.
My series was six parts but thank you for your compliment.
David Hoffman filmmaker
Watching you’re reels is like reliving history all over again born in 1959 raised in Newark though riots appreciate what you do keep it coming the 60s definitely turbulent
Thanks David for those wonderfull footages of the 60's...higher learning Is good😉✌🏽️
This was riveting! I was in high school at the time..a sophomore. None of this was really apparent to me in my little town. I had guys in Vietnam that I used to correspond with but that's about it.
David, your much much more. Film maker, peacemaker, humanitarian. Preacher, teacher, leader. Repeating, reminding, educating old and younger people. Bless you David.
Thank you Brad.
David Hoffman
@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker my coach lost his job high school. Promoted Nebraska college coach. Another flyover State. Continues today. Bullies Promoted, police enforcement. Peace on my mind. Time we unite once again. It will be. Happy to explain why. Thank you again David.
" the more things change the more they stay the same "
Yes & no... Horrified citizens complained on social media but risked little doing nothing about the damage they watched for the last 4+ years. Pressure works... Apathy & waiting for someone else to sacrifice & do something do not :o(
@@JustMe-nf1mf
The military police are paid with our money to not protect us, but to protect the rich. Therefore, black folk get murdered for having supposed faulty taillights while rich kids who wreck their vehicles while injuring and killing innocent people need only plead affluenza and they are set free.
There are many of us who protest. You just don't see us on the phone blasting it. Some social media is good to educate the rest of us, but there are people, perhaps like yourself, that only want to complain instead of offering a solution.
This will continue until the end of time.
because constantly changing more would be the same thing staying the same..
For those too young to remember, we watched these protests on the nightly news, well into the early 1970s. The news is tame these days in comparison. Even OWS was tame compared to the protests during Vietnam.
Patriot Teen I know right. It’s almost sad that the only people who still get the majority of their news from tv are people from older generations. They’re just being fed a big spoonful of propagated nonsense. All of them are terrible but I truly think fox is the most manipulative and untrustworthy. I can not wait until the generations who don’t understand the internet die out.
@@coldercoronet6248 Too bad they might hold the same resentful sentiments.Perhaps it's called a Generational Gap.Ifso compare the differences between past similar generations of this CZcams downloads Era.One has it's own thing,& the other has theirs.Only when both recognizes the best & worst or vice versa,for the better then all that begins good,that will finally end well!So there's not much to it really!
It's very strange to me when someone equates government with a father, implying that one should love, respect, and trust ones government, with faith that they're motivated by some "good": but that imagery only applies to a caring, empathetic, altruistic father, government isn't a person with clear motivations, it's an entities of people with conflicting and often shaded motivations; not only do most, if not all parents fail at meeting such high expectations, a government should certainly not be expected to exhibit these characteristics and shouldn't be expected to be persuaded by politeness. If you want systemic change you better demand it and be ready to stand up for it.
This is the most moving video i have seen in some time. I have always been aware of the asns in 68. What I didn't understand is what a dark turn it created in American's collective psychology.
Great history lesson.
he was killed in 1968 ROBERT CARROLL SMITH
is honored on Panel 50W, Row 32 of
the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.
Full Name: ROBERT CARROLL SMITH
Wall Name: ROBERT C SMITH
Date of Birth: 7/15/1946
Date of Casualty: 7/29/1968
Home of Record: BELL GARDENS
County of Record: LOS ANGELES COUNTY
State: CA
Branch of Service: MARINE CORPS
Rank: CPL
Casualty Country: SOUTH VIETNAM
Casualty Province: QUANG NAM
i am so sorry for your loss.
This is not correct, it is Robert Carl Smith. KIA 2/7/1970. SPC 4, United States Army. The man in the video is my dad, Bob was my brother.
@@marksmith7353 Sorry for your loss. Your brother was a hero. May he RIP. I was born exactly one month and 5 days after your brother's passing. I have a son who was your brother's age when he was murdered in Vietnam. I can't imagine what your parents went through.
The option of living with my great-grandparents family in Norway was open. We visited later. The old WWII vet is still alive. June 2023.
love your channel. real history, not fake news. ordinary people going through extraordinary times and circumstances.
The tragedy that was/is Vietnaum and the impact on this country cannot be overstated. It was a very rude awakening and it led to ending the war. Most became wiser but it was learned at tremendous costs on many levels.
The cost was a total loss.Then lost alot of good people,both abroad & local,all over some pointless crap the lead to nothin'!
But we haven't done a thing to change our warring culture to save our children or our souls!!!
15:13 love that kids reaction when grandma drops the f-bomb (quite rightfully so)
I was one of those little kids watching all this all on TV... I was 9 :)
Thank you for sharing your documentary with us on CZcams!
Hi, David. Recent polling shows that Americans are the unhappiest they've been since such information started being collected on a regular basis, which was either the late 1960s or early 1970s. Looking forward to the 2030s!
You think it's going to get better?Think again.
The gathering of information as you put it, explains the unhappiness that was already there.
Geeze, especially this outrageous level of wealth inequality that we are at today.
Learning the real truth of how the conditions that have come to be are by design and not your own failure as the powers that be would have you believe, well that is going to make a lot of people justifiably angry.
The solution is certainly not continuing to purposely hide the truth.
Hide the history that is granted, very ugly and very uncomfortable to look at.
@@Crezelltree4261 I am confident it will get better. A LOT better!!! But God only knows when and what we will have to go through between now and then!!! Seems we haven,t yet learned enough!!!
Truly heartbreaking stories of families destroyed for literally nothing. I served from 98-02 as a naval intelligence specialist. I wish I could give the time and money back to the people who backed my ill informed decision. No one with a heart is unharmed by any violence, especially unwarranted
Violence, Anger and Hate really Breaks my Heart. =(
It's still here.
"Credibility gap" - "Fake news"
"Dirty hippies" - "Entitled SJWs"
I'm watching this in 2020 and wow, nothing new under the sun.
Thank you for making this channel and helping to spread awareness of history. I hope we can all learn from it and make a better path forward.
tocodelray if we don't learn from our past, we're doomed to repeat it. This rings so true in this day and time. It's 2 days before the 4th of July and you can feel the tension in the air. God bless you and this land..
Those dirty hippies gave us sexual perversion, STDs, hedonism, drug culture, marxism, disorder, so no doubt SJWs will also give us another wave of degradation.
Those were not the real Hippies. We were lumped in with the political activists. Hippies were pacifists.
As always, it was co-opted by the media, _"Blame it on the Hippies and drug culture",_ turn them all into radicals.
Its important to realize that this was a time of TRUE JOURNALISM. Magazines and Newspapers were revealing HORRID CRIMES against entire villages and innocent children were being slaughtered. The military men were labeled baby killers, our Government was ordering our men to do heinous crimes upon villages, a "shoot now ask no questions" ... Because they were all Vietnamese and they didn't know who was a C0MM1E and who wasn't. We discovered that our government had seriously lied to us, our young people were forced thru the draft to go fight at age 18 yrs. No one escaped and most died or lost limbs. It was destroying our country and families.
Those activists were standing up against REAL INJUSTICES against US, Not the ridiculous stuff we see today.
Americans born after this time are spoiled and have no clue what real struggles are.
Truly, nothing new. Until we learn to by pass the primal brain.
You've fallen for the false equivalency trap... so common and such a shame. The world needs balance and it seeks balance.
The liberal revolution in the 60's and things prior like the sufferagette movement was necessary and a great thing. But people get so stuck in their ways, they can't see the world that's infront of them and view things from the lense of the past. Women now claim men not crossing their legs on the subway is "oppression" because they take up too much space. And they will literally feel like they are the same as the sufferagettes in their struggle over this. The SJW movement is backed by the media, by big tech, big coorporations, hollywood ... and yet they think they are part of the resistance.
You're so stuck in the past that you can't see reality for what it is. Things change, the world changes... SJW's are the insanity of the establishment now. The resistance is from the other side. The world seeks balance, you can't keep getting more and more radical and think that this is good just because radicalism was good at one time. This is such basic thinking it amazes me how people fall for it. There is no end to your leftist radicalism and in the end nothing will satisfy you except the complete destruction of the human race and the overturning of absolutely everything. Out of control. You are *nothing* like the people in the 60's, you are the mainstream.
The government is a masterful manipulator of the people; particularly the ignorant and the poor.
My uncle committed suicide after coming back from Vietnam when his girlfriend left him.
Sadly my cousin did the same when his wife left him
Guys crying in the telephone booths.
Women are heartless. Whte women are the worst cause they are the perpetrators of antiwhteism.
I remember 68. I'm 64 now. I remember my parents and other family members talking about world events. My Dad was an Memphis fireman. He retired after 25 years. Any how I remember them talking about everything that was happening. I can remember the fear in their voices. And them more or less saying they didn't know what the world was coming to.MLK, RFK, both murdered yes murdered. All the protests the crazy Democrat Convection in Chicago. As a young child 11 years old. I remember thinking what kind of future was in store for me my brother's and sisters and friends. It seemed to me that it didn't look to bright.
At only 14 years old at that time, I came in with the next wave of rabble-rousers of 1969 and I'm still bitchin' today.
Your videos are a blessing. Thank you, David.
Thank you for posting these old videos. They help me tremendously
I was 13 that summer. It was terrifying.
Grew up in the 60's.
How much it seems like we did not learn anything
We did although it may seem that way.. just most of us did not end up power hungry thugs
People don't learn, they want to be who they are.
I wouldn't wanna fight wars for bankers, companies and corrupt governments either. Screw that
How about fascist countries?
@@Crezelltree4261 no
Two things were a holdover from the '50's, repression of teenage development and their quest for Identity and Vietnam that came about from that fear of the cold war. Vietnam became so ill-timed when the youth coming from that decade had had enough of the fear and contradiction that they lived with in the '50's.
Same as now.
The talking heads are given a few key words and phrases to use.
Every one of them consistently repeats those key words over and over.
No matter what is going on in the camera directly behind them.
and then people wonder why there is a lack of trust
Back in the days when people were smart and phones were dumb.
By the way, we not only watched live or daily reports showing soldiers bloodied and bandaged on stretchers, but we saw caskets returning home, something the USGov won't allow now because they learned from Vietnam how powerful those images were in turning people against the war.
No caskets for now but that'll prob soon change. As for other combat images of soldiers getting bloodied etc that continues being shown as in 60s.
They completely changed the way wars are shows nowadays. Complete distance with distant explosions, and drone strikes so that the people can't go to the streets and influence the war again..
David Hoffman this is an "old" post of yours but I'm moved again on reviewing it. I wonder if I mentioned this bit in an earlier forgotten comment already. :) Late in that war I was coming up to draft age. Dad, through his work as a major top secret information center supervisor had seen the sort of lies come through his post about the war that Robert McNamara, from the refuge of the end of his mortal span (old age) finally confessed to. Mom discovered Dad crying alone one night, and he told Mom (who told me), that if we weren't out of Nam by my inductability and I were drafted, he would abandon his career and take me to Canada himself. What he had seen doing his duty at his post had driven him to that drastic position. Dad never went into detail on his knowledge even with Mom - as she told me; keeping his oath and his heart break at his nation's conduct to the night of his early, chronic job stress worn, demise.
Dad was the guy who before Affirmative Action, promoted minorities and women against his racist, sexist superior's wishes because as he said, he promoted based on who showed the highest qualification for the job.
Now, I'm feeling emotion. Good. Good day everyone. Thanks.
An amazing story. I admire your dad.
David Hoffman Filmmaker
Canada isn't so bad... I gets warm here a few days out of the year
Your dad seems like a stand-up guy
MR.Hoffman i watch all ur movies and im beyond grateful u have lived thru these times and was able to document history and preserve it i was born in 1980 but im absolutely fascinated with all the decades i wasn't even thought of yet and how most of these ppl are no longer with us but because of you they will never die either to know back then how this footage you preserved would be such a rare beauty today was deserving of a noble prize today and i think you truly deserve it ur work has just been so beautiful and idk if you realize you interviewed the same man in 64 about brotherhood and again u ran into him in 79 i think in ur street question about "computers" did u know this if not that was awesome THE WORLD NEEDS MILLIONS OF MR.D.HOFFMANS and society could look back and see what ideas the modern kids have are no different from the kids b4 them n b4 them it is like recycled generations yes progress was made was it enough well watch Mr.Hoffmans documentarys and see for yourself.....THANK YOU WITH ALL MY HEART SIR YOUR TRULY A GIFT TO HUMANITY!!! Such beautiful ppl in your videos its breathtaking truly to the core
Jay: Thank you for your kind statement. I don't know that I had all that much wisdom when I was younger and recording all of these things but I didn't realize that I was recording history and that someday, maybe, I would find a way to use it. With CZcams, that is happening.
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Thats crazy how they muted the dads voice when he said: I would help my son get away in a situation like that..."maybe the protesters were right"
Some were right,some were crazy.
I was born 6 Jan,1968,so,despite the tragedies and turbulence,i found this especially interesting! I thank you & Cheers!
@Michele Thomas Thats really sweet of you. Thanks & all the best!
Amazing documentary David. What an eye opener.
This is so reminiscent of whats happening right now.
Not really you klown.
Not in the least bit.
@@narlywaves2371 leave the house.
I'm British so im no expert on the Vietnam war but when did the American people really turn against the war? Was it Tet? Was that the realisation that it was an unwinable war? Anybody going fighting for my country wether I agree or not would still have my 100% pride and support and I'd clap them off the boat. Soldiers don't make policy. There's a great documentary by John Pilger called The Quiet Mutiny (1970). If my country wasn't trying to cling on to the last vestiges of Empire in Aden and Cyprus we would of been in Vietnam because we wouldn't of listened to the French either. RIP to those 58,000 brave kids who died in that awful war. Cheers and I hope we have some peace for a few decades at least!!
There was no, one factor that brought about the change. One of the significant reasons that I believe doesn't get as much attention as it should was returning Vets who weren't afraid to speak up and say it was a mistake. We had already been through hell, what more can they do to us?
6:00 "The funny thing about Viet Nam... I was getting TIME magazine every week... I could read about my war even as I sat in the middle of it. I would read about what Lyndon Johnson would say and what McNamara would say and what Rusk would say... I could look around and see that... unh uh! I don't know what war they're talking about but that's not what's going on here."
Tet was a start....Kent State turned us against it.
I will never support savagery, even if it's under the guise of being for my own good.
As my dad would put it, the Tet Offensive was a military failure on the VC part; once the US army regrouped they didn't have much trouble wiping out the enemy. However, in the process of pushing back the offensive, the media was able to get a very clear picture of how chaotic the war actually was, and how much it differed from the govt's narrative that "everything is going fine". While there was discussion beforehand; after Tet the camel's back was broken, so to speak. At that point, the media stopped holding back on talk.
They did the same stuff in Afghan. My dad sent me home a Base newspaper THE WEEK that Obama claimed the Iraqi war was over that *clearly showed that was a lie, and it was far from over*
History does not repeat its self, it only rhymes.
Thank you for this, David.
I continue to find gems from your channel David ❣️
Thank you and keep searching. There may be more that you enjoy and/or find of value.
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@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker I definitely will and I'm sure there is !!
Thank you 😊
I was in seminary from 1965-8 and the clergy/professors, even our ethics classes, did not even mention what was going on in the world 'outside' the church. No presentations or discussions by students/faculty about Civil Rights or Viet Nam. It was just follow the traditional learned curriculum. No substitutions. The vast majority of religious institutions didn't want any part in the critical life and death issues because even discussing 'issues' might make people upset enough not to give $$$ to the church.
great music in the background. . . the stones, Hendrix :)
the summer of love was a media invention.
Your channel is so important ! Thank you
May 7, 1968!!! The day my life began. The year my life started.
Ah, we meet again.
july 68 , born into , still wish the peace made it , such waste,
My older brother was born on August 20, 1968. Me: March 12, 1970.
My sister was born June '68, I am a '64 baby.
Seems all to familiar once again.
Except police didn’t have tactical gear on back then. We should worry about that.
donald drysdale
Orwell. Which book do you feel best describes these times presently?
I think ‘Brazil’ might be closer.
Love watching these videos really makes ya appreciate life now lol
It seems clear to me there is a parallel to the 60s and 70s anger with today's.
Drugs
The difference?... At least there was reason in the 60s and 70s.
Today it is corporations continually pushing fear and apathy.
Its Pavlovian
This is the aspect of the counter culture many people forget. It was a very fluid and growing movement. Great work David.🖤🇨🇦
Damn that was really a heavy load of sadness
I have coins from Vietnam I always wonder who held them or were they found on a soldier the dates on them are from 1962 to 68 that's one thing I like about coin collecting I also remember Roberts Kennedy train going by when they moved him back to Washington DC I was young standing near the tracks with a crowd of people
At 77 this just brings so much grief back to me as if it was today. Having moved in to an apartment with my 2 best friends, one who happened to be black, literally 2 weeks before MLK was assassinated. Then, we all remained in some sort of never-never land, with the nightly news, and I'm not joking, giving the daily death counts of Vietcong and Americans ever night. But hope seemed to have arrived in RFK.....until that hope was crushed also 2 months, nearly to the day, after King's assassination by Kennedy's. The city riots after Kings murder, the Chicago Convention riots just a couple of months after Kennedy's murder were combined with the ongoing tragedy of the deepest segment of the death and destruction happening in Vietnam at the time. Neither were beneficial in the least, BUT, both were completely understandable AND called for!!!
I was there! What a horrible tumultuous time it was. You have captured it well with your documentary. Good job!
"War is a Racket", Gen. Smedley Butler
We broke our own hearts.
One way or another.
I hope folks that are watching this in 2021 can learn from it, in order to bring actual change into our society.
Year 2022 watcher here.... I have no words of whats going at the moment....
What changes? You can't just say that like we all agree on the "changes." 🙄
please contact me at allinaday@aol.com and I will tell you how to get the series.
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To defeat the flawed system in America that allows the wealthy to rule the needs of the majority we need America to unite again on a humanitarian level and fight all type of injustices together as one.
We better pray.
People say that we now live in a divided America that has never before been seen. They must have forgotten the 1960s which I would think is a far more divisive time in this country. Pray that we will once again find unity and peace.
You're right. Division was Much worse then than now. I was 18 in '68 and recall that college kids were pissed that they couldn't vote until age 21, but the government could send them to fight a jungle war at 18 and come home in a box, dead. Add to that MLK assassination and 2 months later bobby Kennedy, and you have an explosive situation.
Mr Hoffman you should make these available for purchase here on youtube through their movies/series section just a thought! By the way i love that you did this doc and have to watch it at least once a year
Thank you Al. I have never looked at that and did not even know there was such a section.
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@@DavidHoffmanFilmmaker no problem. I just truly enjoy your films
Beautiful.
I would never have had the guts to resist the draft. Initially when I filled out my draft form I put on it I was against killing. They wrote back that in order to get out of the draft for pacifist reasons I better be able to prove my involvement in some religious institution and be nothing short of being a monk. I was told better reconsider my position or I will be jailed. My dad was furious as well so I changed it and registered for the draft as another body to go help kill the NV. Fortunately for me I had a high draft number, 340, that I was no longer concerned about being drafted.
I was a teenager in the 60's, would never want to be a teenager today. They cheery pick these clips but most of life was great.
13:17 his voice was blocked out when he said, "maybe the protesters were right". Did Hoffman do that or CZcams?
You are correct, Jason. "Maybe the protesters were right" is what he said but CZcams cut that out because I am using a piece of music that I once had the rights for but do not any longer. So they cut the entire audio. Sad, isn't it.
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I heard about the protest on the evening news. I had already lost all my childhood friends that I used to play with. In the middle of the night I snuck out of the house,walked to the highway and stuck out my thumb! I arrived in Lincoln Park in the evening the next day. That night the Chicago police violently attacked peaceful protesters with tear gas and beat the shit out of everybody. And that went on for the next 6 years and it was He'll. It changed me deep down. The next day I went to an army supply store and bought a teargas mask and police baton. I would never be abused again.
I can see this again in our near future if things don't change.
What a Time! They could have all the Color TV programs they wanted but We didnt have a Colr set till 1975!!
Thank you David Hoffman. I’ve started a David Hoffman Appreciation Acc on Twitter. Hope that is ok! Just sharing the love! #davidhoffman #davidhoffmanfilmmaker
I guess a thank you is in order. I don't really understand using Twitter and never have. So thank you.
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I'm sure an Irish cop in Cambridge may have had trouble relating to a suburban white college kid screaming at him.
A lot of deaths in this dark year
It's worse now.
I 'm glad I was 5 years old in 1968.
Niels Pemberton I was as well. It’s interesting to look back now with some perspective on what I was only vaguely aware of at the time.
What I see on this film and what I see now crazy
That's Jerry Dunphy at the beginning of this clip. The character of Ted Baxter on The Mary Tyler Moore Show was modeled after him.
What a time tpo reflect about 68 protests, right? To reflect about the police?
14:10
"NO I don't wanna read! I'm an educated American!" lmao
...and here we are...
I am very sorry but I cannot help you to answer this question. The files used to research the series were burned in a fire in 2008. That story is told in my film Everything Which is... Yes posted on CZcams.
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Ah yes the fire of 2008 where lots of good music was burned
People who remember this time,
are bit in the ass today. The corollary is so bloody plain it's embarrassing. It's because you were there. Some of you, one way or another, more than once.
The similetude is too routine for an anthro. class. No 20 year old ever gets it, I didn't. Is it possible. Is there an unwritten, unheard, unseen unknown function or something.
I remember the hippies, I remember establishment. I remember how they hated each other's rotten gut's. I remember that. Like now. Just like now.
Like before, and when we're all gone.
It must be part of nature's human social engineering or something.
✌ peace.
First scenes were in Oakland Ca, in 1967 . Dr. King was still alive , but the anti-war movement was already becoming more militant , with some concluding that police brutality had to met by a violent push back . The battle of the late 1960's was on .