I haven’t liked this Ben since he made that smug video, when he still had his Ford zx2, he made a condescending video about affording his cars because “it isn’t that hard, just manage your money” completely disregarding his free/heavy discounts... and years later when he gets bad COVID ( no idea if he’s vax or not ) does he sell his cars for money? No he begs online. This Ben is a turd.
The stress alone doing this kind of job isn’t worth the supposed center of gravity weight gain. The only way I’d be down to do this is if my car came from the factory like this already. A lot of sTi owners have sun roofs. It’s a better option having a sTi non sun roof car and leave the roof alone.
I know mark was a mechanic of some sort in the military, but to have the versatility he has working on cars is impressive even if he had years as a professional auto tech. More mark in the content please - I love seeing the way he goes about doing things.
I love how Jason on Engineering Explained just had a video saying goodbye to the Miata and mentioned how ridiculous carbon roofs are for how little weight you save for the price point
Props for making the attempt. Obviously youre going to have it 100% when its all said and done. I think the next move has to be different seats cuz they have to be hefty as hell
Guys, spot weld cutters and smoke machines to test for leaks are your friends. Good first attempt tho. You'll get it right, but like i always say "Hot rodding will kill us all... Usually from disappointments" 💪🏆
Lol I love this car but $7k for 8lbs and a whole lot of trouble😅.. This is why most people just wrap the roof. I’ll take this episode as a cautionary tale 😂
@@mengx94 Yes but with a GR corolla you know you have a car that's more reliable, fuel efficient, cheaper to maintain and way cheaper. So it's not really a fair comparison, still a great build.
It makes me smile to see the Escort still hanging around in the background. That's such a cool looking little car, and I'd love to see more content with it. I get why it's been on the back burner for so long though.
It is that thing: you have to set a goal for your project. If you do not set an ending, you will end up putting stuff on your car that will make it worse and will cost you a lot. Right now, I have two projects: The street car is done and I enjoy it the same way it’s been two years. The off-road vehicle is crazy and I started to regret the three last major modifications. It has to stop.
Evolve Automotive just did their M3 touring during the week and they clamoed all the corners. I would go for this approach over putting tyres on the roof as any flex in the middle may pop the edges up. Solid job though and love the factory OEM carbon roof.
I felt the pain at the end. I was very hopefull because I want to do the same thing to remove the sunroof. Getting rid of a sunroof would make a big difference in weight reduction. Keep in mind that you can still recover from this, just going to take some time. Money aside, IT IS FIXABLE 😁 But cmon, we all make mistakes on our builds, but we keep going because we love our cars ❤ Don't listen to all the negative comments, hang in there. I'm excited to see this car come back.
As an RSX Type S owner, I get it. The sunroof on the RSX is what separates it from the DC5 Integra Type R variant with a slick top and roof swapping is my #1 wanted mod. I totally get Ben's desire for a carbon fiber roof lol.
This is a good example of all ways have someone experience with doing this kinds of jobs leave it to professionals or have them guide you in to doing it right
I'm astonished at how much grinding these guys do without any masks. At this point they probably weigh about a pound more in steel and welding bead dust sitting in their lungs and gut. To anyone else, especially with carbon fiber, carbon fiber splinters your body doesn't register as foreign bodies and will never attack and expel like a wood splinter. It simply will sit in your lungs or wherever it lodges forever. It's why you need to use a full respirator and generally a negative pressure table when working with carbon or graphite. Steel at least will eventually find it's way out, but why breathe it in when it's simple to prevent?
as a former WRX STi owner, I can't believe you did this. if i'd started cutting into mine, i would've just kept going until the pieces were perfectly junkyard sized. >.> (it was a lemon)
Marsh composites sells only carbon fiber, no fiberglass carbon trash They've got a roof for 1,300-1,500. Just in case anyone wants to get one without spending 7k Their fitments are also perfect I highly suggest checking them out if you want oem sized fenders full carbon, hood, etc.
Dude, There is some beauty in putting blood, sweat, tears, and 8 hours of grinding into your project... it's definitely not the 8 hours of grinding, but there is beauty.
Am I the only one who sees what he has done in a positive way? He learned a lot of new things by doing that and as a result, he taught us a lot of things as well ,and he had the guts to do that.
It’s a good “how not to do” video 😂😂😂 My prediction: they’ll end up scrapping the roof entirely and end up with no roof and no back window to save even more weight.
At least one thing this video confirms is that we shouldn't waste our time replacing the roof with a carbon fiber one. Unless you have a youtube channel and you need to find a new project that nobody has done before... but what a waste of money. Mark should get a bonus on this job. 😆
Good effort dough, I has happen to me try to fix something, and at the end have to run to a mechanic so they can finish it properly, but there is still satisfaction and lot of experience. Great job!!
I have always toyed with that thought but couldnt bare to mess around with my daily. Kudos to Ben and Mark for attempting this. U know what? The weight savings may not be worth it, but I think what many ppl missed was the drop in cg. I mean, u can try reducing weight elsewhere; seats, fenders, bonnet, boot, u name it, but nothing is as heavy and sits as high up as the roof of a 4 door sedan. The next best thing is risk cracking your bumpers, scraping your undercarriage at every other speed bump with coilovers.
I have a 2018 Subaru Impreza 2.0 is es, same body type and man I wish I could make mine as nice this but it would cost a fortune. Guess I have to live vicariously through you.
"Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also"
Center of gravity is very important in terms of handling. That makes sense to try to reduce the center of gravity with a vehicle that is powered by a boxer
intro was hard to watch and wrap my head around. but the amount of money and effort you put it, makes it actually kinda cool. good work boys, I never want to see anything like this again.
Mark better get a raise after this episode 😅
The look on his face lol
definitely 👍
A for effort !
I was thinking this the entire episode. 😂
I’ve watch him wrench and diagnose but replacing an entire roof 😲
You were so preoccupied with whether or not you could. You didn't stop to think if you should.
I haven’t liked this Ben since he made that smug video, when he still had his Ford zx2, he made a condescending video about affording his cars because “it isn’t that hard, just manage your money” completely disregarding his free/heavy discounts... and years later when he gets bad COVID ( no idea if he’s vax or not ) does he sell his cars for money? No he begs online. This Ben is a turd.
*You didn't stop to think if Mark should*
I was thinking the same. Basically threw this STI to the trash
Damn you didn’t need to cook them that much lol
Ha! Jurassic Park!
Lost it at the "After calmly discussing our options," nice throwback to the kei car series 😂
Yea same
yep also noticed it
It always reminds me of the "Dumbledore said calmly" meme hahaha
anyone else remember when ben said that this STI was going to be his /daily/?
daily as in work on it everyday hahaha
at this point, he might as well just gut it and use it for his wheel to wheel racing.
@@LChinezetoo unreliable for that, Subarus won't take the abuse..
@@geogmz8277 he swapped out the subaru block with an iAG block.
@@geogmz8277Subies compete and do well in almost all classes of racing. Minus roll racing and pure drag racing
Gotta thank you guys for this one. I had illusions of putting an RA roof on my STi and now I'm 100% OUT 😂. I'll wrap that thing.
Haha..man you just beat me to the exact comment I was going to make. Me an vinyl wrap are about to become good friends!
Exactly who this video was intended for. This is just way too much work and money. Glad to see this whole process.
The stress alone doing this kind of job isn’t worth the supposed center of gravity weight gain. The only way I’d be down to do this is if my car came from the factory like this already. A lot of sTi owners have sun roofs. It’s a better option having a sTi non sun roof car and leave the roof alone.
yes. I had a chane to buy a RA roof. glad I didn't
I know mark was a mechanic of some sort in the military, but to have the versatility he has working on cars is impressive even if he had years as a professional auto tech. More mark in the content please - I love seeing the way he goes about doing things.
What if they need to add 10 lbs of sealant to make it liquid tight?
lol
I love how Jason on Engineering Explained just had a video saying goodbye to the Miata and mentioned how ridiculous carbon roofs are for how little weight you save for the price point
I watched that video just before this one. Perhaps these guys should’ve watched it too before spending all that time and money on a leaky roof 😄
I had a bad day and then I watched this episode, I think I'm alright now. Thank you Ben & Mark.
Couldn’t agree more!
My father taught me an important lesson...don't fix something that ain't broke.
They're not fixing it
@@mitchellsteindlernow they will be 😅
Yeah don’t touch it unless you really really want that particular upgrade
@@hungryaliensoooo, technically it's broke 😂
Don’t change it unless you have CZcams money.
Mark better get his own build series after all this lol
Absolutely, or I quit
As much as I find this channel entertaining, the moral of each video you guys make seems to be that the more you modify your car, the worse it gets 😄.
Props for making the attempt. Obviously youre going to have it 100% when its all said and done. I think the next move has to be different seats cuz they have to be hefty as hell
That and a carbon trunk for sure
Like I said in the last video
This STi is gonna go from "500hp daily" to MY STi IS A RACECAR NOW!
He just has to buy a few more race cars first
Guys, spot weld cutters and smoke machines to test for leaks are your friends. Good first attempt tho. You'll get it right, but like i always say "Hot rodding will kill us all... Usually from disappointments" 💪🏆
Lol I love this car but $7k for 8lbs and a whole lot of trouble😅.. This is why most people just wrap the roof.
I’ll take this episode as a cautionary tale 😂
The problem with sealing it up inside the car is that the water can still get into those channels and just sit and fester away in there.
This is what being a youtube car guy is all about - financially questionable decisions which are exceptionally entertaining.
At least no one will attempt to do a carbon roof swap after this. Kudos to you both on experimenting this job
I love how well Mark has just blended in with this channel/group he has been a great addition!
100k car, tens of thousands of hours, all for this, a Subaru with a leaking roof. Remarkable.
It'll be a way better car than gr corolla for sure
@@mengx94 Yes but with a GR corolla you know you have a car that's more reliable, fuel efficient, cheaper to maintain and way cheaper. So it's not really a fair comparison, still a great build.
The most Ben thing ever 😂
good job, you guys are really raising the roof with these uploads
It makes me smile to see the Escort still hanging around in the background. That's such a cool looking little car, and I'd love to see more content with it. I get why it's been on the back burner for so long though.
You guys are so good at filming, story telling, choosing music... It's an emotional rollercoaster for "just" one mod. I love this channel
Thanks! The level of craft in this episode was amazing.
All this video did is make us feel bad for Mark
lol, it did haha, so true
That was a good video. I really dislike when things don't workout. But helps us become better.
It is that thing: you have to set a goal for your project. If you do not set an ending, you will end up putting stuff on your car that will make it worse and will cost you a lot.
Right now, I have two projects:
The street car is done and I enjoy it the same way it’s been two years.
The off-road vehicle is crazy and I started to regret the three last major modifications. It has to stop.
Mark is the man! We need more recognition for Mark!
Mark is just as important to this channel as the cars are. We need tonsee his S2K get some love though.
Well that sucks... And now it's leaking. I have a feeling this STI will be on Sale soon!
Evolve Automotive just did their M3 touring during the week and they clamoed all the corners. I would go for this approach over putting tyres on the roof as any flex in the middle may pop the edges up.
Solid job though and love the factory OEM carbon roof.
I felt the pain at the end. I was very hopefull because I want to do the same thing to remove the sunroof. Getting rid of a sunroof would make a big difference in weight reduction.
Keep in mind that you can still recover from this, just going to take some time. Money aside, IT IS FIXABLE 😁
But cmon, we all make mistakes on our builds, but we keep going because we love our cars ❤
Don't listen to all the negative comments, hang in there. I'm excited to see this car come back.
"after calmly discussing our options" thank god its still going
As an RSX Type S owner, I get it. The sunroof on the RSX is what separates it from the DC5 Integra Type R variant with a slick top and roof swapping is my #1 wanted mod. I totally get Ben's desire for a carbon fiber roof lol.
Can’t you just take out the sunroof and weld in some more metal?
@@AudiRSAvant some people do. Think what happens is the plug ends up deforming over time, so the roof panel swap is preferred by others.
Mark is a trooper and deserves a raise
This video was a GREAT display of a mod you shouldn't do and all the reasons lol hope you guys get it fixed for your peace of mind Ben
Great video. Makes me not want to drive my car but also makes me want to drive it more. So much goes in to that prep.
So much respect for the amount of work and determination
Bought a set of 4 Continental tires at discount tire through your link. Thank you!
If anything, for science! Thanks for not hiding the leak problem.
Man you guys are game. I love working on cars but zero chance I'd ever do this level of a job. Well done!
Took some SERIOUS guts and commitment to take on mod of this level. Win, lose, or draw. GREAT JOB! 💪👏👏👏
This is a good example of all ways have someone experience with doing this kinds of jobs leave it to professionals or have them guide you in to doing it right
Damn you.. I think that's the one I've been keeping an eye on! Good grab!
Mark is a patient man, damn.
I'm astonished at how much grinding these guys do without any masks. At this point they probably weigh about a pound more in steel and welding bead dust sitting in their lungs and gut.
To anyone else, especially with carbon fiber, carbon fiber splinters your body doesn't register as foreign bodies and will never attack and expel like a wood splinter. It simply will sit in your lungs or wherever it lodges forever. It's why you need to use a full respirator and generally a negative pressure table when working with carbon or graphite. Steel at least will eventually find it's way out, but why breathe it in when it's simple to prevent?
Bro don’t ever give up. Just keep going. We here to support u. Keep them videos coming. You’ll get thru this just have faith in god. Blessings 🙏🏼🙏🏼
This has to be the best video I've ever seen about the dumbest thing ever. Amazing contrast. I bet you guys learned a lot from it though.
as a former WRX STi owner, I can't believe you did this. if i'd started cutting into mine, i would've just kept going until the pieces were perfectly junkyard sized. >.>
(it was a lemon)
This is the most m subaru STI thing to do..this is like the last bosss mod Sti ownership level type of shit and I’m here for it…wild….love it haha
Marsh composites sells only carbon fiber, no fiberglass carbon trash
They've got a roof for 1,300-1,500.
Just in case anyone wants to get one without spending 7k
Their fitments are also perfect
I highly suggest checking them out if you want oem sized fenders full carbon, hood, etc.
I came here for this comment. Marsh also claims 16 lb reduction.
Dude, There is some beauty in putting blood, sweat, tears, and 8 hours of grinding into your project... it's definitely not the 8 hours of grinding, but there is beauty.
I have continental 6’s in my G1 insight and I think they’re the best eco tyre on the market. The Michelin tyres go rock hard and crack so soon!
That is a monumental amount of work.
Lot of work. Both of your patients is impressive
Miss the blue ford, was nice seeing it’s still around. Pls bring back content on it
thank you for suffering through this so that we didn't have to. all for the passion. now do a miata build!
I’m so glad you’re doing this, I’ve been sitting on a type ra roof for almost two years now, too worried to install it on my Sti.
Gives new meaning to the term “Labor of Love”.
“After calmly discussing our option…”
I get PTSD from this.
This is the most ben thorn thing hahaha
Marc is an absolute BOSS.
Gear and gasoline trying to keep their car as stock as possible for atleast 3 years challange *(IMPOSSIBLE)* *(GONE SEXUAL?!?)*
“What?! No wayyyyy” 😂😂😂 IYKYK
Am I the only one who sees what he has done in a positive way? He learned a lot of new things by doing that and as a result, he taught us a lot of things as well ,and he had the guts to do that.
Yes you are the only one
No you aren't the only one. The comment section is just full of children.
Not in a bad way, but I can fall asleep so easily to this video. Just soothing lol😅
Deng those floors are squeaky clean
What i like about this channel is that they are very meticulous in rust and aesthetics.
It’s a good “how not to do” video 😂😂😂
My prediction: they’ll end up scrapping the roof entirely and end up with no roof and no back window to save even more weight.
At least one thing this video confirms is that we shouldn't waste our time replacing the roof with a carbon fiber one. Unless you have a youtube channel and you need to find a new project that nobody has done before... but what a waste of money. Mark should get a bonus on this job. 😆
Great video, Your videos are so therapeutic to watch. Keep making them.
Wow! The lengths you go through for excellent content! Thank you for all you do - every week.
So thankful I get to watch you guys do this instead of having to do it myself I get wtfs just hearing you talk about it 😅
Good effort dough, I has happen to me try to fix something, and at the end have to run to a mechanic so they can finish it properly, but there is still satisfaction and lot of experience. Great job!!
At this point just keep building it as your next Time Attack car! ❤
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Send it!!
Shhh watch it first
I mean, he's not tracking the car, it's just a daily. He'll never be doing anything where the "lost" structural rigidity will actually matter
@@sonofulti1337now its not even a daily,
or only „dry day daily” 😂😂😂
@@cypsoonnot sure how considering it has a roof.
I wonder how regular Ben drives this car
Regular Ben? Is Asian Ben not regular? Also he daily’s it
@@austinlee9291regular sized ben
@@hunterbodell1129 small ben
@@austinlee9291He meant how regularly* dont be so dense
Ima guess less than the F150. The real daily 😂
I have always toyed with that thought but couldnt bare to mess around with my daily. Kudos to Ben and Mark for attempting this. U know what? The weight savings may not be worth it, but I think what many ppl missed was the drop in cg. I mean, u can try reducing weight elsewhere; seats, fenders, bonnet, boot, u name it, but nothing is as heavy and sits as high up as the roof of a 4 door sedan. The next best thing is risk cracking your bumpers, scraping your undercarriage at every other speed bump with coilovers.
Tell us more about that CF roof when you build a race car with complete seam welding and a cage 😅
Great video! Mark is really entertaining 😂
If you take tire valve stems and put them in a drill. Itll take the rubber/sealant off with out using razor blades. You guy did a great job!!!!!
You boys do this upgrade so others learn not to even attempt it. A for effort.
I have a 2018 Subaru Impreza 2.0 is es, same body type and man I wish I could make mine as nice this but it would cost a fortune. Guess I have to live vicariously through you.
This things gonna be so nice you wont even want to drive it anymore! Haha amazing car i love this build as always G&G is in a class of their own.
I respect it, this is your pride and joy, the little details make it perfect :)
Not what you wanted but you taught us all a lesson, carbon roof mod should be last on the list after exhaust tip whistles 😂😂
Fair play, good content and well documented. Not sure why all the 'I told you so'. At least you gave it a go
This is how not the end a project car, can't imagine how ben is getting ideas modifying a "stock" impreza
Mark is such a good friend, sucks the roof leaks after all that hard work….but damn that STi looks good.
"Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal, but lay up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where neither moth nor rust destroys and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also"
Center of gravity is very important in terms of handling. That makes sense to try to reduce the center of gravity with a vehicle that is powered by a boxer
This is starting to delve into the realm of deep OEM+ mods.
My favourite kind!
Hell to the no no no for this hahaha insane amount of work . Poor Mark.
Appreciate you taking one for the team! 😅
intro was hard to watch and wrap my head around. but the amount of money and effort you put it, makes it actually kinda cool. good work boys, I never want to see anything like this again.
The moment mark said stop, where did it come from, my heart sank.
Don't worry man you'll get this figured out keep at it.. you got this
Over the last year you guys have become my favourite automotive content creators. Can't wait to see the Rx7 get bridgeported ;)
the red RX7 is K swapped and the Yellow one was sold a while back so I doubt that's a piece of content we'll be getting anytime soon. 😅
@kuma_score7536 oh man I didn't see that they sold the yellow one. Foolish me.
U guys knew it since the very beginning, that was going to be a waste of money and time, but you deserve your LIKE 😂😂😂😂
Things I will never attempt to do for $100 Mr. Trebeck
... or "for $7000" as the case may be. 😉
Same here man
Go Ben! Proud that you tried something and learned.