Magene GRAVAT2 Smart Trainer: Details // Unboxing // Ride Review

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  • čas přidán 28. 08. 2024

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  • @stevenf4511
    @stevenf4511 Před 5 lety +8

    I have a Gravat 2, bought in China for around US$500. Ive had the trainer for 3 months now and didnt even realise there was an external strain gauge hidden back there - thanks for the 'power up' tip Shane :):) So far Ive been happy with the unit - good value for money spent.

    • @glennoc8585
      @glennoc8585 Před 5 lety +2

      Can you link where you can buy for $500 please.

    • @TaichoCyclist
      @TaichoCyclist Před 5 lety

      Haha! Steven, now we know where to get some juice on AsC90 Sundays when we are not on par with the peloton. :P

    • @stevenf4511
      @stevenf4511 Před 5 lety +1

      We could actually win some races as well with this strategy :)

  • @Dennis4523
    @Dennis4523 Před 5 lety +7

    That’s the most beautiful flywheel I have ever seen

  • @Scohen415
    @Scohen415 Před 5 lety +5

    Finally a trainer with E bike mode.

  • @TaichoCyclist
    @TaichoCyclist Před 5 lety +2

    Thanks for review the trainer I have been using for past year. Despite the few negatives highlighted, the positives really shines through and has been reliable since Day 1 for me.

  • @davidalexander9047
    @davidalexander9047 Před 5 lety +5

    Finally reviewing my trainer!

  • @Savonge
    @Savonge Před 5 lety +7

    Yhea that last bit with the brake really sold the trainer!
    that was a cool trick that my Neo can't do.

    • @danjo1967
      @danjo1967 Před 5 lety +1

      wonder how many people are looking at their trainer trying to figure out how to cheat, and how many already have done so.

    • @mickoholland1
      @mickoholland1 Před 5 lety +1

      @@danjo1967 loads and loads! i know 6 men who can hold 5 w/kg on zwift for ever but get dropped at 300w on the flat in a club race. lol maybe they are messing with their weight but its the running joke locally

  • @MakmalDimensi
    @MakmalDimensi Před 5 lety +4

    I have that trainer and I'm happy with it for the price that I pay and the value that i get

  • @skullmanUK
    @skullmanUK Před 5 lety +9

    I still find it hilarious after all these years we still have to use a USB extension to put the dongle closer, rather than being able to plug into the trainer directly...

  • @jbkltc4469
    @jbkltc4469 Před 5 lety +3

    this unit brings zwift doping to another level. could easily put some extra strain on it with some tape i guess, or even attach a string to it to use it occasionally for some huge sprint watts

    • @jbkltc4469
      @jbkltc4469 Před 5 lety +1

      i posted that comment midway through the video, before having watched the end :-)

  • @Fidasaind
    @Fidasaind Před 5 lety +3

    Shane has a professional hand model now. I hope Veronica is being paid well for! Maybe 1 super magnesium bike per month.

  • @TaichoCyclist
    @TaichoCyclist Před 4 lety

    FYI the little bolt nut on the strain gauge Shane used to tie the cable to his brake caliper wire can be removed. The nut is used to tie down the strain gauge during transportation.

  • @oldsap
    @oldsap Před 5 lety +2

    looks a lot better than my and your experience with the Jetblack Whisper Drive Smart trainer especially in ERG mode

  • @danielotero4484
    @danielotero4484 Před 5 lety +1

    i wish i saw this before purchasing the wahoo kickr 2018 cause my first one had to return it and second one the pulley screw gets loose really poor design and more maintenance on the unit, great video GPLAMA

  • @massa_rob
    @massa_rob Před 5 lety +5

    that last trick would explain some Chinese performances on Zwift. Beside and/or in addiction to some serious weight "doping", LOL

  • @barisbolat7152
    @barisbolat7152 Před 5 lety

    Using it for last 6 months without a glitch, I also compared it with my 4iiii power meter and great accuracy

  • @jeanmichel6327
    @jeanmichel6327 Před 5 lety

    Excellent review as always Shane !!! I saw this trainer on Ali express and some events on Malasya I think and was eager to know your opinion on it , looks like the favorite trainer for the Cofidis guys if you know what I mean 😄

  • @adcuz
    @adcuz Před 4 lety +1

    Got to love a manufacturer who bundles adverts into their app :/

  • @kojie333
    @kojie333 Před 2 lety

    This currently sells for $500 here in the PH. Looks like its a good buy

  • @davepratt9909
    @davepratt9909 Před 5 lety +1

    How about doing a video on how a the spin down calibration works? I've found very little information about the internals/process it uses. Some questions to answer: Why do you have to get it up to a set speed? Why does it have to be warmed up?

  • @RixterNow
    @RixterNow Před 5 lety

    Good fun. Love the power-up 💪🚴🏽‍♂️

  • @SamFromVACE
    @SamFromVACE Před 4 lety +1

    Hope to see review on magene t100 in the future.

  • @lehtjug
    @lehtjug Před 5 lety

    Wiring strain gauge Magene seems to have same effect what 1st gen Bkool Smart Pro did without wiring/tuning. Sometimes it work normally and sometimes it was very generous about power. It was very unpredictable, sometimes it make you feel like world tour cyclist and next time it put my feet back on the ground. Don't know how well they work these days.

  • @glennoc8585
    @glennoc8585 Před 5 lety +1

    I tend to be a 'pour it out unboxer' due to excitement. Very quiet obviously a proper consideration there. I need 142x12 so the parts shoukd be included in 2019 or at least as a cheap option at pos. I like the quietness thats a plus but for me to buy this trainer it would need to be $200 lower with no cadence.

  • @alleywatson
    @alleywatson Před 5 lety

    I have just got one too and had no idea about the cheeky wattage switch on the back.

  • @kissCharles
    @kissCharles Před 4 lety +1

    LOL i like how u pour the unit out

  • @user-lh8pc1ue4v
    @user-lh8pc1ue4v Před 5 lety +1

    Thanks for thr review!
    Bought it in hk for 450usd

  • @liewchengyeh
    @liewchengyeh Před 5 lety +1

    i had one too... It's a very affordable trainer...
    (However) I just wish it can run (ERG mode) without the AC adapter like Tracx...

  • @mefepristone
    @mefepristone Před 5 lety

    Hey shane... Great video. I have a quick question which is unrelated to the trainer, itself, but still specific to the video. Where do you get that white plastic cassette holder I see you using each time you put on the cassette? It would sure make life easier. Thanks again for your great work on CZcams :)

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 5 lety

      They come with most Shimano cassettes these days.

    • @mefepristone
      @mefepristone Před 5 lety +1

      Shane Miller - GPLama thanks

    • @YakovD71
      @YakovD71 Před 5 lety

      I've just bought 3 Shimano road cassettes (105 and Ultegra) and unfortunately I didn't get that cool plastic jig (just the regular slick on) - maybe becsuse I got the 10 speeds cassettes?
      Searching on the net didn't get success.

    • @mefepristone
      @mefepristone Před 5 lety

      YakovD71 I was thinking the same thing regarding this issue... It's not worth upgrading to 11spd however just to get 😃

    • @YakovD71
      @YakovD71 Před 5 lety

      Yes,
      Yesterday I've checked it with the local Shimano distributor and it comes only with new manufactured Cassettes (10 speeds are old stock). They offered me to come and get it for free as they installing cassettes and throwing it.

  • @ewanshard338
    @ewanshard338 Před 5 lety +2

    picked one up off gumtree for $200 aud

  • @helasm123
    @helasm123 Před 4 lety

    Hope you can review Magene t300, seems very good in terms of the specs and its fiscal appearance

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 4 lety

      If I can get a hold of one, I can put it through the Lama Lab.

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 3 lety +1

      Here it is. Magene T300 Smart Trainer: Details // Ride Review // Lama Lab Tested: czcams.com/video/H6By1BYufeo/video.html

    • @helasm123
      @helasm123 Před 3 lety

      @@gplama Hi Shane.. thank you for your review. actualy I have bought T300 alraedy for about 4 months ago and I do agree with your review. the power accuracy is very bad.. I have been comparing the power of T300 with my Stages Power mater.. I am not comparing the data in graph like you..just compared the the power value of both power disply side by site ( T300 in Zwift and stages in stages sw tools apps ) ..What I noticed that T300 power value most of time is lower then Stages power value..(it make me very bad when I am racing in Zwift 😡) I have sent my finding (in video , side by side power value comparation when zwifting) to Magene Customer Support Center.. but no respond at all ☹... and now..to overcome this problem., I am using stages power meter as my Power meter source.. but this configuration is not good if I put it for ERG mode. .the resistsnce changing respond is verry slow and it's not stable compared if I use T300 power mater ..... Disappointing...

  • @BooXdk
    @BooXdk Před 5 lety +2

    @ 7:34 me giving ride on :-)))

  • @jeremyparker7246
    @jeremyparker7246 Před 5 lety

    Hi Shane, I'm in the market for a new direct drive trainer. The one thing that frustrates me with my Elite Rampa is the delay in resistance changes, I overtake guys at the start of ascents it really annoys me. I was very interested in your thoughts on the Gravat2 until you mentioned the same problem of there being the same delay. Which direct drive trainer would you say has the least delay? I live in Hong Kong and the Gravat2 is available here for AU$860ish BTW

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 5 lety

      Neo.... the Kickr range isn't bad.... there's no ideal go-to unit that's perfect though at this point.

  • @gaidenlee
    @gaidenlee Před 3 lety

    Have you ever heard of the Magene T100? I hope you'll be able to review that indoor trainer... cheers!

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 3 lety +1

      I have one here ready to unbox.

  • @Bangkok.eye.automotive

    They should call it the "Cancellara Special" edition!

  • @DereQues
    @DereQues Před 5 lety

    It’s a virtual E-bike with the brake attachment!

  • @nick_velokicks
    @nick_velokicks Před 5 lety +1

    what's a few more watt dopers on Zwift eh

  • @ycpan7707
    @ycpan7707 Před 5 lety

    If using 140mm rear diskbreak . The caliper will against trainer's frame. I have to cut a piece of plastic from the trainer frame end to aviod this issue.

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 5 lety

      Good tip. One I didn't come up against as I didn't have the adapters for TA.

  • @sholihinamd
    @sholihinamd Před 3 lety

    Its compatible for dicsbrake frame ?

  • @ariefbudiman9255
    @ariefbudiman9255 Před 4 lety

    I'm going to buy my first smart trainer, better magene gravat 2 or Wahoo kickr core or think rider x7? Give me choice, thank you

  • @hfjchan
    @hfjchan Před 4 lety +1

    Will there be a review for the new Magene T300?

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 4 lety +1

      If I can get a hold of one.

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 3 lety +1

      Here it is. Magene T300 Smart Trainer: Details // Ride Review // Lama Lab Tested: czcams.com/video/H6By1BYufeo/video.html

  • @archiesmith4867
    @archiesmith4867 Před 5 lety

    Shane, how many seconds of averaging are you using for the DCR comparison?

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 5 lety

      Typically 5. Which influences the graphs a little... but 1sec/raw is like looking at a chainsaw most of the time.

    • @archiesmith4867
      @archiesmith4867 Před 5 lety

      Thank you.

  • @audioblazer6951
    @audioblazer6951 Před 4 lety

    I’m wondering if can I use it with a campy 12S groupset. All I got to do is to instal my campy freehub body on the gravat . Is that compatible ?

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 4 lety

      That's one for Magene

  • @sitoudien9816
    @sitoudien9816 Před 5 lety

    When are they ever going to market this overseas? They have their own virtual world and it's FREE!

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 5 lety

      There might be import/export restrictions given their technology is very similar to another trainer.

    • @sitoudien9816
      @sitoudien9816 Před 5 lety

      CZcamsr China Cycling reviewed V1 years ago and raved about it. And they expressed interest in exporting it. But nothing has been announced. The price is right and the virtual world is free............I would be on this thing.

    • @TaichoCyclist
      @TaichoCyclist Před 5 lety

      @@sitoudien9816 They are actually keen to market the trainer overseas but the relative obscurity it faced outside China made it daunting to market.
      Also the stigma about chinese goods being copy or inferior are what usually comes to mind of consumers. Frankly I went through Gravat 1 and 2 and both have not disappointed. In fact, if it wasn't for Shane pointing out the "hack", I would have even know or bothered about the feature.

  • @tuannguyenvnc
    @tuannguyenvnc Před 3 lety

    Why my result of zero calibration is -80. What is it mean ?

  • @dcrunicycles
    @dcrunicycles Před 5 lety +1

    Thnx again. AI controlling digital and analog i/o. Wait for it ; )
    The market is driving the price down and the tech up, awesome.

  • @sean43A2
    @sean43A2 Před 4 lety

    Can this trainer direct connect with garmin foreruner watch. And start indoor bike activities. then can get the speed and power for the activites?

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 4 lety

      This should work, although I haven't tried this myself.

  • @mpinkpank
    @mpinkpank Před 3 lety

    A little late for my comment but cadence works just fine on my Gravat 2.

  • @endribudiwan3420
    @endribudiwan3420 Před 4 lety

    Does the gravat works with trainerroad? Some people complained in trinerroad forum few months ago tht the gravat can't connect to trainerroad

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 4 lety

      I haven't tried. That's one for Magene or Trainer Road support.

    • @aripwicahyanto1249
      @aripwicahyanto1249 Před 4 lety

      work with trainerroad now

  • @nomatesman
    @nomatesman Před 4 lety

    Thinking about trying one of these but cant find the android app for it. Can you provide a link or point me to where I can find it? Any chance of reviewing the Magene T300?

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 3 lety

      Here it is. Magene T300 Smart Trainer: Details // Ride Review // Lama Lab Tested: czcams.com/video/H6By1BYufeo/video.html

  • @Flyboard12345
    @Flyboard12345 Před 3 lety

    Is it any better than t300? In terms of “heat power drift”?

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 3 lety

      Looking at the data from a few years ago... it looks to handle heat a little better, but not perfectly.

  • @Campaigner937
    @Campaigner937 Před 5 lety +1

    GP Lama in depth vacuum reviews.

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 5 lety +5

      “They all suck” 🤣

    • @markmccall6273
      @markmccall6273 Před 5 lety +1

      @@gplama OCD. All the best athletes are a bit OCD.

  • @samroubaix_1756
    @samroubaix_1756 Před 5 lety +2

    Ha ha, I think I need one of these for Zwift....🤔

  • @eterlizzi
    @eterlizzi Před 5 lety +2

    A comment about the external strain gauge manipulation and Zwift: like Lance taught us, if everyone’s doing it it’s not cheating 😂

  • @ryandowney5798
    @ryandowney5798 Před 5 lety

    Is the design close enough to a Kickr that Magene has committed a copyright infringement?

    • @skullmanUK
      @skullmanUK Před 5 lety +2

      This is China mate. It's what they do, and they don't care either way!

    • @ryandowney5798
      @ryandowney5798 Před 5 lety

      @@skullmanUK Perhaps, but I could see Wahoo contacting Shane and asking him to remove the video because the product is a rip off of their design. I'm just thinking out loud.

    • @skullmanUK
      @skullmanUK Před 5 lety

      @@ryandowney5798 That wouldn't surprise me! Another thing, cheating in video games is basically the norm in Asia so I'm surprised they didn't include Shane's brake hack for the strain gauge in the box! :D

    • @stevenf4511
      @stevenf4511 Před 5 lety +1

      The Magene was actually designed and sold pre KickR Core.

  • @audioblazer6951
    @audioblazer6951 Před 4 lety

    Of course with a 12s cassette

  • @jesuselreytapia
    @jesuselreytapia Před 3 lety

    Hi dear. How do you think about gravat T300 and thinkrider x7?

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 3 lety +1

      I will publish videos on those once they're tested in the Lama Lab.

    • @jesuselreytapia
      @jesuselreytapia Před 3 lety

      Do you have now in your hands those? That review coming soon?

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 3 lety +1

      Here it is. Magene T300 Smart Trainer: Details // Ride Review // Lama Lab Tested: czcams.com/video/H6By1BYufeo/video.html

    • @jesuselreytapia
      @jesuselreytapia Před 3 lety

      @@gplama thank friend. Good job!!!

  • @blackdidi
    @blackdidi Před 5 lety

    GRAVAT 2 has several issues with TrainerRoad. First TrainerRoad app (ios , Android) can not pair with GRAVAT 2 in Bluetooth. Using ant+ dongle instead of using Bluetooth should works well? Not really! Proceed any TrainerRoad over/under workouts in ERG mode, you will experience abnormal “higher resistance” (not lag) although the resistance should drop after “over” threshold power period. The abnormal higher resistance will sustain about one minute. Be aware these issues of GRAVAT 2 if you are TrainerRoad user.

    • @endribudiwan3420
      @endribudiwan3420 Před 4 lety

      Does the problem still persist in TR?

    • @blackdidi
      @blackdidi Před 2 lety

      @@endribudiwan3420 GRAVAT2 is now working with TR without issues.

  • @11-inch
    @11-inch Před 5 lety

    Can you control the Gravat 2 with Wahoo Elemnt Bolt?

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 5 lety +1

      I didn't try this. Yes in theory. It's ANT+ FE-C.

    • @kitttt2002
      @kitttt2002 Před 4 lety

      u can

  • @p3entro660
    @p3entro660 Před 5 lety +1

    wow nitro

  • @thankyoujesus2836
    @thankyoujesus2836 Před 4 lety

    Have you tried their smart bike?

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 4 lety

      Magene have a smart bike?

  • @DennisTeohKokEe
    @DennisTeohKokEe Před 4 lety

    Could you compare this to Magene T100?

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 4 lety +1

      I'm not familiar with the T100... A quick look a the technical specifications.... 2% maximum gradient simulation. That's not much at all.

    • @DennisTeohKokEe
      @DennisTeohKokEe Před 4 lety

      @@gplama, at least better than Lemond Revolution? Better than D2R shadow?

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 4 lety +1

      @@DennisTeohKokEe I wouldn't say so until I've ridden it. The Lemond Revolution is one of the best 'training' trainers around.

    • @DennisTeohKokEe
      @DennisTeohKokEe Před 4 lety

      @@gplama, the second hand value of Lemond Revolution is very close to this Magene T100. Since Lemond Revolution standard packaging does not come with the watt box sensor. Also can't do any gradient simulation. No speed nor cadence reading until we do the hacks to add a speed and candence sensor as per your previous video back to few years ago.

  • @louisboulton9334
    @louisboulton9334 Před 4 lety

    Is it just me or is that an identical twin to the kickr core 🤨

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 4 lety

      The legs are similar. This is more like an original Kickr14 in operation/power meter/etc.

  • @NickiKhonsari
    @NickiKhonsari Před 4 lety

    Hello, Would you review Magene T300?

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 4 lety

      If I can get one, yes.

    • @NickiKhonsari
      @NickiKhonsari Před 4 lety

      @@gplama I can assist you with that!

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 3 lety

      Here it is. Magene T300 Smart Trainer: Details // Ride Review // Lama Lab Tested: czcams.com/video/H6By1BYufeo/video.html

  • @johnnyboy4711
    @johnnyboy4711 Před 5 lety

    why risk this over a wahoo?

    • @gplama
      @gplama  Před 5 lety

      Alternatives are good. It keeps everyone in check.

  • @GsLincoln10
    @GsLincoln10 Před 5 lety +2

    Oke so that's why I don't trust the Chinese riders at Zwift during a race.. dude you think you have a gap, and in no time riders from 1H+ or +1S (hell no idea what that means) are catching you :D Btw all respect to people from China who don't cheat!

    • @szoasis
      @szoasis Před 5 lety +1

      many pros from +1s team, i dont think they are cheating

  • @AaronGoodTimes
    @AaronGoodTimes Před 5 lety +1

    I honestly could not imagine doing calibration and spin downs all the time for a trainer or power meter. Well, I can imagine it, but I also imagine not enjoying it. No calibration for the win!

    • @stevenf4511
      @stevenf4511 Před 5 lety +1

      The trainer's manual stipulates calibration once every 4 weeks. I have one and can vouch for that recommendation, (I actually rarely need to calibrate).

    • @TaichoCyclist
      @TaichoCyclist Před 5 lety

      I hardly re-calibrate mine to be honest. It does not show any abnormal power readings for the lack of spindown calibration.

  • @Tideman11
    @Tideman11 Před 4 lety

    I think they just copied the design from the Wahoo Kickr, which is fine, but not very creative.

  • @allent1277
    @allent1277 Před 5 lety +1

    HAHAHA JUST POUR IT DOWN AHAHAH!

  • @Vifferboy
    @Vifferboy Před 5 lety +2

    Looks like a Chinese Kickr Core ripoff.

    • @JoeJoe-lq6bd
      @JoeJoe-lq6bd Před 4 lety

      Funny enough, Magene had this design first. Wahoo stole the design from Magene most likely.

  • @spartanbike2260
    @spartanbike2260 Před 5 lety

    Magene they reverse engineer a kikr core + a stages powermeter chinese knockoff LOL

    • @TaichoCyclist
      @TaichoCyclist Před 5 lety

      Gravat 1 & 2 were released before KickR Core to be honest.

  • @Mine96craft
    @Mine96craft Před 5 lety +1

    Yay more Asians doing 500+ Watt races on Zwift by tickling that little button in the back with their feet while sitting on the couch and eating chips.