Amateur MMA Fighter & Bodybuilder vs Kyokushin Karate Master

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    A pretty nice showcase of the Kyokushin skillset against somebody unfamiliar with the ruleset.
    To be clear this is NOT meant as anything else than a short but impressive display of Kyokushin fighting skills and how debilitating it can be to deal with when you're not used to it.
    Thanks for watching!
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  • @SaikouKarate
    @SaikouKarate  Před rokem +53

    I Trained Full-Contact Karate In Japan For 3 Months! 🇯🇵🥋
    czcams.com/video/K2ii1VBCOrs/video.html

  • @abdelhakym8283
    @abdelhakym8283 Před 2 lety +3697

    This is why you learn takedowns,just in case you square up with a guy that moves like a Tekken caracter

    • @kellenparker4783
      @kellenparker4783 Před 2 lety +273

      I think the MMA guy might know takedowns and grappling techniques(or not)… But I guess he’s fighting under Kyokushin rules… hence no takedowns or grappling.. otherwise it’ll suck for the Kyokushin guy (unless he too knows how to grapple)

    • @JR-ch8rt
      @JR-ch8rt Před 2 lety +9

      Lol

    • @markmessi9020
      @markmessi9020 Před 2 lety +103

      A whole style of Jin Kazama's trying to juggle you with kicks

    • @seraphinaaizen6278
      @seraphinaaizen6278 Před 2 lety +126

      @@kellenparker4783 There are throws and some basic grappling in some styles of karate. So if the grappler is inexperienced, a skilled karateka might still be able to escape.
      In this fight, I think the biggest difference maker was experience. The MMA guy looked rattled after that onslaught, like he wasn't used to being attacked (even though those strikes were really controlled), but there was a BIG gap in both experience and skill level here. He started getting clubbered and didn't know what to do.
      Even if the guy was allowed to do takedowns, I'm not convinced it would have helped him. He was getting smothered.

    • @carritohmc
      @carritohmc Před 2 lety +29

      True, although to be fair, as some others have pointed out there are some takedowns in Karate, I know in Juko competitions basically all Judo techniques are legal, and Karate Combat is even allowing very limited ground and pound, which is very good, it might turn them into full-on ground fighters, but exposes them to enough grappling to develop some awareness of hips, underhooks etc. But yeah, that guy moves like Jin, and looks big too.

  • @sig1761
    @sig1761 Před 2 lety +2267

    I love how light the kyokushin guy moves despite looking so heavy

    • @ibastratepi
      @ibastratepi Před 2 lety +88

      Thats what I notice with kick martial arts - excellent light feet, balance and positioning

    • @johnsolberg5611
      @johnsolberg5611 Před 2 lety +30

      The other guy didn't even throw a punch.

    • @grandwonder5858
      @grandwonder5858 Před 2 lety +22

      Too busy running away and avoid getting hit!

    • @mizmera
      @mizmera Před 2 lety +3

      Amazing.

    • @SgawCules
      @SgawCules Před 2 lety +9

      @@ibastratepi you're obviously referring to east Asian martial arts when it comes to that aspect because there is nothing light when It comes to Muay Thai or lethwei

  • @wdtripps44
    @wdtripps44 Před 2 lety +1199

    The man is extremely good, doesn't take much of a trained eye to pick up on that. And the MMA fighter was being very respectful as well.

    • @nobodyharder6575
      @nobodyharder6575 Před 2 lety +75

      Nah the MMA guy just sucked. He was flinching at his every move lol he's scared to spar

    • @denisl2760
      @denisl2760 Před 2 lety +16

      @@nobodyharder6575 Could be just not being used to the rules. Idk maybe his instinct is to close distance and clinch but its not allowed?

    • @you-pingyang2644
      @you-pingyang2644 Před 2 lety +54

      @@nobodyharder6575 this guy is a CZcamsr who pick on mma one or two years ago, he wasn’t representing mma or challenge this guy, he was just trying to see different martial art and experience it, so yea, he’s not good but that’s not the point

    • @tiffanycrotts6936
      @tiffanycrotts6936 Před 2 lety +4

      Everything is allowed in Kyokushin as it is a bare knuckle, unless gloves are agreed upon like here for head contact, take down, choke, submission full contact karate. Only joint kicks/hits or anything to the spine is not allowed.

    • @joespears5082
      @joespears5082 Před 2 lety +2

      He did good for an island boy🎶🛶🏝️

  • @StockyDude
    @StockyDude Před 8 měsíci +56

    Kyokushin is a respectable version of Karate because it’s students are actually expected to do some sparring before being promoted, not just demonstrating good form in a choreographed presentation.

    • @SuperBC10
      @SuperBC10 Před měsícem +4

      They also take belts away too if the instructors feel the students have neglected their training.

    • @Cailus3542
      @Cailus3542 Před měsícem +2

      I'm not sure what karate styles you've seen, but every dojo that I've been to (Shotokan and Wado-ryu) requires kumité and self-defence during grading, plus participation in competition for prospective black belts. The first night of my 2nd Dan grading, they literally kept me going until complete exhaustion, switching between kata, pairs work, kumité and other things constantly. It turned out that they were testing my character too, to see if I would give up or keep pushing through the exhaustion.
      All that said, Kyokushin looks brutally tough. If I ever find a dojo, I'm not assuming anything based on my experience, even if the sensei offers to start me at a higher grade. I'd start from the beginning, keep my mouth shut and do the work.

    • @AnthonyLauder
      @AnthonyLauder Před 27 dny

      @@Cailus3542 there are plenty of karate schools, particularly in the USA, where even little kids age 7 or 8 are getting black belts. No way are those kids capable of real sparring, other than against other kids their own age. These are "all must win prizes" belts. And a lot of schools pretty much have a schedule, where students are put forward for belts based on how long they have been there.

    • @UrbanDefenseSystems
      @UrbanDefenseSystems Před 13 dny

      @@Cailus3542 you know exactly which one's he's seen. the fact you're being obtuse to something so readily recognizable shows you know.

  • @seabee0733
    @seabee0733 Před 2 lety +428

    The words here are Master and amateur. Big difference. Looks like the Master is in his own Dojo. If you have ever spar a true Master in kyukoshin you will never forget it. Especially a challenge in front of his students. I would like to see how well the mma guy would do in a no rules match though

    • @eeroekebom1147
      @eeroekebom1147 Před 2 lety +62

      Not well against this Master, I think it is clear. The master is really taking it very easy on the guy.

    • @user-nu8vw1ow4n
      @user-nu8vw1ow4n Před 2 lety +6

      Karate Had The Choping Hand to Chop People head when they try to tackle not even Use Elbow and Knee at all (No Rule)

    • @hiranom20
      @hiranom20 Před 2 lety +7

      @Frederic Rikam A serious Japanese-style karateka from any school (old school training) of similar ability and experience to an mma fighter would be a good challenge.

    • @bryanshaw4434
      @bryanshaw4434 Před 2 lety +15

      I started martial arts in 1972 and got a first-degree in Isshinryu karate and then a seventh degree in Taekwondo plus kickboxing and other martial arts training. I wish when I started I knew about kyokushin karate. That just puts it all together.

    • @ryansiroproductions
      @ryansiroproductions Před 2 lety +37

      Against a dude with wrestling Experience they would get pickup up slammed taken to side control or mount and then beaten up.

  • @CaptBane-mt2sw
    @CaptBane-mt2sw Před 10 měsíci +82

    I met the kyokushin guy during a kyokushin training seminar in the Philippines last december 18,2022. He’s actually a shihan on the taiwan branch, a really kind guy and a fun guy to be with. He does mma as well with kyokushin as his foundation. Really skilled fighter with a humble attitude. Great teacher as well

    • @jimihendrixx11
      @jimihendrixx11 Před 6 měsíci

      Is he from Japan or Taiwan

    • @NewNew-cp7wn
      @NewNew-cp7wn Před 3 měsíci +2

      He's a solid unit

    • @CaptBane-mt2sw
      @CaptBane-mt2sw Před 3 měsíci

      @@jimihendrixx11 Taiwan

    • @DennisBLee
      @DennisBLee Před 3 měsíci +2

      holy shit, as someone who has trained in BJJ and MT, this dude is legitimately scary. Just goes to show traditional martial arts still has a lot of merit.

    • @MichaelDamianPHD
      @MichaelDamianPHD Před 2 měsíci

      What is his name?

  • @beetalius
    @beetalius Před 2 lety +203

    How nimble he is, and how light and controlled those strikes! True master

    • @Slycoop
      @Slycoop Před 2 měsíci +2

      I'm genuinely impressed. I talk smack on karate usually but those crescent kicks were actually super viable and almost worked as a set up for a question mark kick. 👏

    • @percy9228
      @percy9228 Před 22 dny

      @@Slycoop in a sport like bodybuilding athletes take their own pictures and they all look like they will win the competition until they compete on stage and you can see they weren't as big as the photos made them look out to be.
      I've learnt (and I think many others) to not put to much emphasis on this dojo fighters. yes his feet where quick but fighters show more aggression and plan ahead. against this karate guy, you'd try to charge at him and take him to the floor. MMA shows what techniques work. not many are learning karate if any

    • @Slycoop
      @Slycoop Před 22 dny +1

      @@percy9228 yea ofc this guy wouldn't last two seconds in MMA. But we know elements of it work (Wonderboy, MVP, ect)
      I saw some clean techniques here. Give those techniques to a well rounded MMA fighter and he could actually make em work is what I'm saying.

    • @percy9228
      @percy9228 Před 22 dny

      @@Slycoop agreed but how long did it take to learn those techniques. how ingrained are they in his fighting style? will he be able to adapt, because I think its decades worth of training on just those leg kicks. his punch at the end was weak, I know he didn't try though.
      also notice how smooth the kicks were, in MMA you barely got time to have that much freedom, how well does he do under pressure.

  • @ryanbarclay7939
    @ryanbarclay7939 Před 2 lety +550

    Question: What is with the sudden animosity toward Karate in these comments? Last I checked, Karate (and Kyokushin in particular) was widely respected in the MMA and kickboxing communities. Kyokushin (with cross training of course) has produced numerous top-notch strikers, including the likes of GSP, Bas Rutten and Raymond Dekkers. Expanding to Karate generally, you can include Lyoto Machida (Shotokan), Stephen Thompson (Kempo) and Michelle Waterson (Karate style unknown by me, maybe someone in the comments knows).
    They're good at kicks. No one is pretending they have it all, but if you want powerful, dynamic highly accurate kicks, cross train some karate (or TKD for that matter). Kyokushin will get you really great at landing head kicks. You may be vulnerable to head punches, but boxers are vulnerable to leg kicks, and wrestlers are vulnerable to choke holds. Just cross train, you will be fine.

    • @Taekwon-Brando
      @Taekwon-Brando Před 2 lety +74

      As someone who cross trains BJJ, Muay Thai, Judo, And Taekwondo I wholeheartedly agree with this statement! Keep training man 🤙

    • @kerpal321
      @kerpal321 Před 2 lety +45

      connor mgregors style is also heavily karate based

    • @LeyvatenLoop
      @LeyvatenLoop Před 2 lety +99

      The sudden animosity towards Karate comes from the "the thing I like lost, so I feel personally attacked and need to retaliate" mentality. Pretty common around the internet :v

    • @kamiloo86
      @kamiloo86 Před 2 lety +23

      Great comment and very true i know world champion in Kickboxing who started as a kid in Kyokushin. Kyokushin helped mu a lot with bulding core muscles, stamina, precision and this beast mental - never give up/surrender. We should respect all martials arts, Budo (center) is one

    • @bikerslow2598
      @bikerslow2598 Před 2 lety +34

      Keyboard warriors...

  • @AlexHellene
    @AlexHellene Před 2 lety +325

    People look at UFC, and say ''only Lyoto Machida from Karate was a top fighter.''
    However the K-1, which was the world's greatest strikers, many Karate fighters did well in it (almost all from Kyokushin), that were more celebrated fighters than Lyoto Machida. Andy Hug (1 time) and Semmy Schilt (4 times) are former K-1 World champs, Francisco Filho was arguably the most feared fighter in K-1 when he first came in, Sam Greco, Ewerton Teixeira, just to name a few.
    I agree that point scoring based Karate, and their techniques are questionable, as highly effective martial arts.
    Kyokushin Karate though, which is full contact, and power based techniques is on a different level though, and that's been proven in the K-1.

    • @TaStiCleS_91
      @TaStiCleS_91 Před rokem +25

      Bas Rutten too

    • @sallhame
      @sallhame Před 10 měsíci +28

      The Kyokushin guy in this clip uses no power. He could have ended this fight in seconds if he wanted to. So he shows the right Kyokushin spirit. (I am a second Dan myself) Osu!

    • @belalabusultan5911
      @belalabusultan5911 Před 9 měsíci +17

      you still need to take boxing classes if you want to make Kyokushin work in a real fight, Kyokushin has curved punches, but it creates a blind spot on the head, because you learn not to care about protecting your head.... boxing will fix that.
      there are limited takedowns and no grappling in Karate, so you'll still need a grappling martial art too.

    • @majimamike4097
      @majimamike4097 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Συμφωνώ απόλυτα ωστόσο χρειάζεται και πυγμαχία φίλε μου μαζί με το kyokushin για να θεωρείται πλήρες το striking.

    • @thunderkatz4219
      @thunderkatz4219 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@majimamike4097I do Okinawan and boxing

  • @Roll_Vids
    @Roll_Vids Před 2 lety +48

    I love how he was smiling the entire time. Full control of those exchanges!

  • @bw5020
    @bw5020 Před 2 lety +36

    His opponent didn't throw any offense.
    I am not one to knock karate, with Kyokushin being a favorite, but... This really felt self-aggrandizing

    • @baqikenny
      @baqikenny Před 2 lety

      actually if one watches the entire episode with eng sub, they would know that guy in blue is just having fun letting the master do his thing, guy in blue has some good exp in sparring actually but he's mainly focused on conditioning

    • @RedgraveGilver
      @RedgraveGilver Před 2 měsíci +5

      He can't throw any offense because the Master is not letting him. Use your common sense bro jesus.

    • @HonkeyKong54
      @HonkeyKong54 Před měsícem

      Because this is bs. They pulled this bum off the street.

    • @HonkeyKong54
      @HonkeyKong54 Před měsícem

      Throwing those flashy kicks with your hands down is hilarious.

    • @ohboy7790
      @ohboy7790 Před měsícem

      yeah they sure meant amateur

  • @mackthnife3
    @mackthnife3 Před 2 lety +90

    I was fortunate enough to attend a weekend seminar with Mas Oyama and some of his instructors in the 60s, in Chicago. One thing not mentioned, is the emphasis he placed on physical fitness, strength training and endurance exercises....much of the seminar was gut wrenching ...
    Little emphasis was on technique ....I was glad when it was over...lol

    • @rtyler1869
      @rtyler1869 Před 2 lety +4

      That is so true with Kyokushin. Even now, 60 years latter there is a big focus on physical fitness, and in going for my 7th kyu in a few weeks one of thr items that crops up is improved fitness.
      When I graded to 8, in the following class, I was getting winded doing Kata, and was up to 8 in a role, my master chewed me out. Being swinging, biking and gaming on top of training 2-3 times a week just to get ready.

    • @mackthnife3
      @mackthnife3 Před 2 lety +2

      @@rtyler1869 , the one thing that sticks in my mind, about that weekend, was having to stand on our heads against a wall (no hands), while the instructors walked around slapping our stomachs...seemed like forever....lol...it was an unconventional experience as my school was a traditional Mu Duk Kwan TKD place. However, the dojang owner, was a very influential man in the Chicago MA community in the 60s , and had some relationship to Mr. Oyama...his name was Mr Shin.
      My instructor ( not the owner) invited some of us to join in...I dont think any of them spoke english. It was a very special experience in my martial arts journey...🙂

    • @rtyler1869
      @rtyler1869 Před 2 lety +4

      @@mackthnife3 ouch.
      The last time I trained in Karate was Wado Ryu back in the early 90’s. did not get very far into the style.
      Spent about 6 months training and early on, the style grand master came out from Okinawa, and the Dojo owner who was a Sandan had us do something like 90 push Ups and 300 sit ups on the trot.
      Here is me unfit 21 yo going at it and dying in the back of the class.
      Fitness is very big in Karate. Just some styles like Kyokushin take it to thur extreme. And we are all the better for it.

    • @mackthnife3
      @mackthnife3 Před 2 lety

      @@rtyler1869 I bet...it was intense....I was 15 years old...lol
      If you like old school karate stories, I did a series on Count Dante and the Chicago Dojo Wars....I was a young shodan at the time of that debacle and training in Chitown...feel free to check them out......nice chatting🙂

    • @francescosaso2522
      @francescosaso2522 Před 2 lety +1

      Combatte da solo l altro non reagisce

  • @rebkhai
    @rebkhai Před 2 lety +85

    That was awesome. I remember feeling those kicks and leg sweeps when sparring with Kyokushin fighters from Japan.

  • @darthclone7
    @darthclone7 Před 2 lety +21

    Damn honestly even amongst other Kyokushin I've seen, this guy stands out.. his personal style is just unique somehow

  • @R3adyUp
    @R3adyUp Před 9 měsíci

    Got to love them leg kick movements

  • @ricardoblikman2676
    @ricardoblikman2676 Před 2 lety +32

    Man you can see how good of a fighter he is due to the flow of technique choice for the distance and position he has not even one technique is wasted.

    • @johngilmore697
      @johngilmore697 Před 9 měsíci

      I'd crush him.

    • @santiagooarg6990
      @santiagooarg6990 Před 9 měsíci

      @@johngilmore697 yeah, it's easy when your opponent is not throwing anything. Was he actually a mma fighter?

    • @johngilmore697
      @johngilmore697 Před 9 měsíci

      @@santiagooarg6990 They don’t mess with the Daddy! KISS KISS BANG BANG

    • @halfdoc97
      @halfdoc97 Před 6 měsíci

      you would get thrashed mate. I can assure you that.@@johngilmore697

    • @HonkeyKong54
      @HonkeyKong54 Před měsícem

      Yes you can see how great he is throwing flashy bs, hands down, and gassing himself out in less then 3 mins 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @jdt1221a
    @jdt1221a Před 2 lety +9

    Very nice kicks and amazing control. Looks like a true master to me. I am inspired🥋🙏

  • @asentientbroccoli8658
    @asentientbroccoli8658 Před 9 měsíci +1

    If homeboy moves like this now imagine him in his late 20s. Crazy.

  • @mrdcato
    @mrdcato Před 14 dny

    Very well done sir. Your awareness and decision making about your kicks is phenomenal.

  • @masjut1
    @masjut1 Před 2 lety +8

    Beautiful. The teacher moved so great. Respect!

  • @insuchaway
    @insuchaway Před 2 lety +9

    Impressive; it looked like he was floating from kick to kick. Phenomenal footwork.

  • @OGAntzmo
    @OGAntzmo Před 9 měsíci

    The black belt be moving like a Tekken DLC

  • @TimRHillard
    @TimRHillard Před 9 měsíci

    I love the bolo punch right at the end😁😁

  • @lucaslimal3
    @lucaslimal3 Před 2 lety +7

    Maaann!!
    This guy can sure control his legs.
    Amaizing skills!

  • @danielqu9926
    @danielqu9926 Před 9 měsíci +19

    If that guy is an Amateur MMA fighter then I am a professional MMA fighter

    • @frfx4eva
      @frfx4eva Před 27 dny

      FR

    • @turbotrup96
      @turbotrup96 Před dnem

      Dude was under flurry of kicks and you think you'd do better than him?

  • @MerumMinus88
    @MerumMinus88 Před 2 lety +16

    Amazing display of control and speed. Can’t imagine how is to get hit by a guy like him in his 100% power

    • @AMLagonda
      @AMLagonda Před 2 lety +7

      I dont think you would remember it, when you wake...

    • @HonkeyKong54
      @HonkeyKong54 Před měsícem

      He would be throwing flashy bs with his hands down while a real mma fighter would block and then feed him a vicious overhand 😂

    • @soysauce4087
      @soysauce4087 Před měsícem

      @@HonkeyKong54 And you’re here taking shit with no experiences whatsoever, lmao. Pathetic.

  • @TristanBehrens
    @TristanBehrens Před 2 lety +70

    Not exactly representative. The "MMA guy" clearly has very little experience as he's flinching and closing his eyes at every strike, and reaching out to try to block the kicks (this is the first thing you learn not to do if you train). He doesn't even throw a single strike whether due to lack of experience or out of respect, I don't know, however there were a LOT of openings for counters. I would bet from this video he hasn't trained for more than a couple of years consistently.
    Furthermore he's fighting someone very experienced in a rule-set that he has likely never trained under. Make that Kyokushin master wrestle with high-school kids and you'd see something very similar in the opposite direction.
    Having said that, the black belt is clearly very skilled at what he does, I dont want to sound like I'm bashing him, it just seems slightly unfair to me. Entertaining, nevertheless, however...

    • @timothyfreeman97
      @timothyfreeman97 Před 2 lety +1

      Why would that Kyokoshin want to wrestle with high school boys? He'd just kickbox them.

    • @TristanBehrens
      @TristanBehrens Před 2 lety +11

      @@timothyfreeman97 he'd get double legged and pounded...

    • @thelastmojican4480
      @thelastmojican4480 Před 2 lety +2

      you know what you're right ...but instead of trying to find a high school kid wrestler why don't you find the black belt master here and fight (spar) him yourself ?

    • @s0methingrarer
      @s0methingrarer Před 2 lety +1

      The young guy here is barely attacking. How much easier can me make it for the master?

    • @BalDevVD
      @BalDevVD Před 2 lety

      Let em have this, how many videos out there of MMA guys stomping over traditional martial artists who I wouldn't dare call experienced. Besides, the title clarifies, it's an amateur over there.

  • @davidverdugo6266
    @davidverdugo6266 Před 2 lety +6

    Dudes kicks are insanely good and incredible footwork and ability to cover distance.

  • @raymoe76
    @raymoe76 Před 2 lety +8

    What impressed me most was the control. Lightning speed but only connects with power when he chooses to. That's mastery!

    • @tyronekim3506
      @tyronekim3506 Před 2 lety

      Your words are spot on. I would add: his(the master's) attack was unrelenting.
      Be safe and in good health.

    • @raymoe76
      @raymoe76 Před 2 lety +1

      @@tyronekim3506 yes unrelenting is correct. Beautiful technique too, I loved watching it again. Lets all keep safe my friend.

    • @freetrade8830
      @freetrade8830 Před 8 měsíci +1

      I always found that using the right amount of force was extremely difficult when sparring. You obviously want to get a decent hit, but you don't want to cause too much pain - especially with smaller opponents.

  • @portofino8823
    @portofino8823 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Amazing moves.

  • @blackdog8245
    @blackdog8245 Před 9 měsíci

    Goddamn that kyokushin karate master wrecked that body builder dude.

  • @Ishowspeedshorts488
    @Ishowspeedshorts488 Před 2 lety +13

    I wish I could go back in time and train like that. Kyokushin is very well represented in this video, and will add kyokushin is a dangerous form of karate. It’s full contact form makes it dangerous to even practice, without getting injured.

    • @mattjack3983
      @mattjack3983 Před 2 lety +2

      I trained at a Dojo for a long time that didn't have any qualms at all with full contact training. Black eyes, busted iips, bloody noses were very common. Like, pretty much every night. Definitely not for everyone. We had a group of about 25 really dedicated students, all black belts and brown belts who were about to be black belts..and then there was a revolving door of white belts lol. The white belt turnover rate was really high. But hey, you either wanted to be there, and had what it took to be there and advance thru the ranks, or you didn't. I feel very fortunate to have been apart of that, and look back on those years very fondly. It definitely gave me a very solid foundation to start with when I started MMA.

    • @neutrino78x
      @neutrino78x Před 9 měsíci

      @@mattjack3983
      "I trained at a Dojo for a long time that didn't have any qualms at all with full contact training. Black eyes, busted iips, bloody noses were very common. Like, pretty much every night. "
      I feel like you're not really learning the essence of martial arts doing that. Might as well do western combat sports, at that point. A big part of real martial arts is spiritual and intellectual advancement.

    • @freetrade8830
      @freetrade8830 Před 8 měsíci

      ​@@mattjack3983Good way to scare new people away from karate...

  • @cesaralvesdemoraes3187
    @cesaralvesdemoraes3187 Před 2 lety +3

    I love how much fun he's having with this

  • @markdeer952
    @markdeer952 Před 9 měsíci

    Pure Class

  • @realsoulenginecinematic375

    I really like this video, very insightful and awesome

  • @fcbfreviews
    @fcbfreviews Před 2 lety +15

    It’s in kyokushin rules so it’s not really fair can’t use face punches

    • @fcbfreviews
      @fcbfreviews Před 2 lety +3

      And no grappling since it’s not kyokushin what if the mma guys a grappler not striker

    • @SaikouKarate
      @SaikouKarate  Před 2 lety +10

      Of course it’s not fair. There’s no totally fair ruleset for two different martial arts stylists to fight.

    • @SaikouKarate
      @SaikouKarate  Před 2 lety +12

      @@Geburah82 MMA isn't fair or equal.
      As a sport it has factors that alter the strategy,
      It's fought with handwraps and gloves that fundamentally changes the dynamic of punching and punch defense. Without it you would see different guards, open-hand strikes to the face, different approaches to striking.
      It's also fought in a very specific type of arena that creates a very large focus on certain grappling strategies, as compared to an open mat or anything else.
      Soft mats in general create a very distorted view of grappling also. The focus on submission grappling is extremely skewed from the limited importance it has in reality.
      Regardless, throwing in specialists from various styles to fight each other really doesn't prove much. Throw in a boxer vs a Thai boxer and he will get his legs kicked out, sure. It still doesn't take away the unique skillset and value of boxing as a martial art.

    • @karatearmchairhistorian9825
      @karatearmchairhistorian9825 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Geburah82 Not at all. MMA rules are actually pretty hampering for martial artists who are trained in self defense arts that use strikes or attacks that are banned in the MMA. MMA only shows who is good at MMA under its rules and in its conditions (an "octagon", referee, timed rounds etc. , nothing else.

    • @SaikouKarate
      @SaikouKarate  Před 2 lety +7

      @@Geburah82 When you have UFC top fighters and champions getting knocked out by drunks at random bars maybe you need to have a little think about the difference between reality and a controlled sanctioned MMA bout.

  • @stevebrindle1724
    @stevebrindle1724 Před 2 lety +18

    I am currently 68yrs old and have studied several martial arts since my mid-teens and have always considered Kyokushin by far the best school of karate in the world!

  • @computermanjr.1805
    @computermanjr.1805 Před 9 měsíci

    You can see the karate guy is fucking around,insane skill...

  • @manojkandampully8521
    @manojkandampully8521 Před 2 lety

    One of most beautiful & powerful fight i have ever seen.. Respect both of you.. Oss!!👊🥋

  • @TheMartialMix
    @TheMartialMix Před 2 lety +5

    We need more videos like this 😂

  • @mheung910
    @mheung910 Před 2 lety +7

    This guy is more of a bodybuilder than a “MMA” guy... that’s for sure.

  • @jaytherestless2117
    @jaytherestless2117 Před 9 měsíci

    thats that proper karate, the type that utilise sparing

  • @santiagooarg6990
    @santiagooarg6990 Před 9 měsíci +2

    why was the other guy not throwing anything?

  • @King-uh8zz
    @King-uh8zz Před 2 lety +3

    He is like Jin Kazama. 💪👑👍

  • @pbeinandoaraujo7092
    @pbeinandoaraujo7092 Před 2 lety +12

    Este sim, é um karateca de verdade!

  • @krzysztof3963
    @krzysztof3963 Před 9 měsíci

    I guess, it works until you can't punch in the face

  • @HanniSeidenba0525
    @HanniSeidenba0525 Před 9 měsíci

    The Ushiro Mawashi at begin is like shadow kick, the mma guy missed to react to it.

  • @yetiking2057
    @yetiking2057 Před 2 lety +3

    Wonderful karate sparring. Inspiring.

  • @Antimortem
    @Antimortem Před 2 lety +3

    Good demonstration. Kyokushin application the best❤️👍

  • @meandyou2046
    @meandyou2046 Před 2 lety

    I don't subscribe to many CZcams channels and those that I have are by clicking subscribe by accident.
    This one was deliberate. This video is superb.

  • @ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique
    @ColossalSwordFormAndTechnique Před 7 měsíci +1

    0:14 He got double feinted, u know you’re in trouble when you get feinted twice in a row

  • @lorddeathspit1124
    @lorddeathspit1124 Před 2 lety +9

    I’m often critical of traditional martial arts but this guy is athletic and has extremely fluid movement. Impressive.

    • @samuraiz3746
      @samuraiz3746 Před 9 měsíci +3

      But kyokushin isnt a traditional martial art.
      Just because they wear a dogi when training doesnt make em a traditional martial art.

    • @GodOfTheInternets
      @GodOfTheInternets Před 9 měsíci +3

      Kyukoshin is from the 1950s. Not that old.

    • @neutrino78x
      @neutrino78x Před 9 měsíci

      it's the artist, not the art, man.

    • @BhaalSakh
      @BhaalSakh Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@neutrino78x It's definitely the art. There's a reason why taekwondo fighters all get their asses kicked by any competent fighters. Martial arts have movesets and techniques that are better than others for actual fighting. Kyokushin is one of the best martials for kicking ass.

    • @neutrino78x
      @neutrino78x Před 8 měsíci

      @@BhaalSakh
      "It's definitely the art."
      Then your age is definitely under 30 lmao.
      "There's a reason why taekwondo fighters all get their asses kicked by any competent fighters. "
      Look up Chung Le.

  • @jorgealameda
    @jorgealameda Před 2 lety +3

    Kyokushin is amazing!!!

  • @KingShotcaller
    @KingShotcaller Před 7 měsíci

    Who is this guy? Fights amazing.

  • @aikikan
    @aikikan Před 2 lety +1

    I will be glad to see this master to use this beautiful kicks in MMA arena.

  • @elijasuiters9932
    @elijasuiters9932 Před 2 lety +29

    Everyone in the comments is so mad for some reason.
    A jiujitsu guy will typically perform more impressively in jiujitsu than an mma fighter, because those are the rules he trains for. The same way that a karate guy will usually perform more impressively in a karate ruleset than an mma fighter. Just because mma has all ranges of combat doesn't mean that an mma fighter will be god tier at every combat sport.

    • @tiffanystevens3595
      @tiffanystevens3595 Před 2 lety +3

      Very true! It's the individuals who truly don't understand martial arts, these same said individuals believe that MMA is the be all to the end all!

    • @eclipsewrecker
      @eclipsewrecker Před 2 lety +1

      You don’t think that some of the “mad” comments are due to the dishonest/braggadocios nature of these types of videos?
      It’s almost like it’s an answer to a question no one asked. If it were a longer video then we might know more.

    • @GMunoz-oj5zb
      @GMunoz-oj5zb Před 2 lety +3

      MMA: Jack of all trades, master of none

    • @eclipsewrecker
      @eclipsewrecker Před 2 lety +4

      @@GMunoz-oj5zb hahaha probably most of the time. And sometimes, “Jack of all trades, master of one.” And rarely: “Jack of all trades, master of some.”

    • @GMunoz-oj5zb
      @GMunoz-oj5zb Před 2 lety +1

      @@eclipsewrecker true too

  • @hurkjinyo
    @hurkjinyo Před 2 lety +7

    This guy in Taiwan issued his black belt 2 Dan by himself in two years, and then became a 5 Dan in the third year. Transferred to Nakamura Dojo to become 6 Dans.

    • @chrisgrudge6964
      @chrisgrudge6964 Před 2 lety

      He’s based in taiwan? Do you know where?

    • @hurkjinyo
      @hurkjinyo Před 2 lety

      @@chrisgrudge6964 He is in Pingtung, Taiwan
      is fake kyokushin master

    • @chrisgrudge6964
      @chrisgrudge6964 Před 2 lety +1

      @@hurkjinyo I see. You know his name? I’m in taiwan

    • @jyuangrace4502
      @jyuangrace4502 Před 2 lety +1

      His skills is bigger than his belt color. Awesome kicks. Forget about level of dan or some other things. His already good.

    • @hurkjinyo
      @hurkjinyo Před 2 lety

      @@jyuangrace4502 Sure,but he is fake kyokushin

  • @Ninja0608
    @Ninja0608 Před 9 měsíci +1

    So funny how people think you just have to take down someone that knows karate to win the fight but seems to forget that people that know karate can also know how to fight on the ground lol

    • @Cailus3542
      @Cailus3542 Před měsícem

      I mean, yeah, but most karate practioners would still lose to a good judo practitioner on the ground. I sure as hell would.

  • @user-tr9wk2xr2k
    @user-tr9wk2xr2k Před 9 měsíci

    If sensei want the first kick that goes above the head will be ko. He specially throw it like that because don't want to hurt him.

  • @henriqueblackops
    @henriqueblackops Před 2 lety +5

    As a MMA fighter I guarantee this guy doesn’t train MMA. 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @Tespri
      @Tespri Před 2 lety

      He only trains karate and pretends to be mma for sake of video. Even an amateur knows how to deal with those weak kicks.

    • @hmantc712
      @hmantc712 Před 2 lety

      this dude did train for like a year or two and have one amateur match under his belt but yeah you can tell he is not an elite mma fighter czcams.com/video/nUoi7QVEPzU/video.html

    • @combatsportsarchive7632
      @combatsportsarchive7632 Před rokem

      You provided no evidence whatsover to prove that the MMA guy is a Karate practitioner, r-t-ard. That's not fact checking works. It's keyboard clowns like you making the MMA fanbase looks mindless.

  • @Potatodrumcrow
    @Potatodrumcrow Před 2 lety +13

    I have a buddy that is a black belt in this style and when he trains Mma his striking is phenomenal. You’ve seen how Muay Thai Mma is mixed with a wider stance to move in an out and to sprawl on takedowns. He does the same with this style karate and it’s super lethal.

    • @rjamaio
      @rjamaio Před 3 měsíci

      Absolutely, when you eliminate the rules of this style. martial arts is striking or wrestling, nothing else. I don't care what style it is.

  • @mpforeverunlimited
    @mpforeverunlimited Před 8 měsíci

    This is why you need wrestling

  • @walterhough5263
    @walterhough5263 Před 2 lety +3

    Wow I wish I knew about kyokushin 20 or 30 years ago.
    If I had ten or twenty years left to study. Very powerful straightforward martial art. Respect, Ous!!!
    Shorin Ryu practitioner
    Domo arigato

  • @Randoverse
    @Randoverse Před 12 dny +3

    How does this MMA fighter have no takedown skills? Could of easily done a double or single leg takedown. Ground game would have crushed this dude.

  • @raymondrocco8607
    @raymondrocco8607 Před měsícem +2

    That Teacher would lose badly in a MMA Cage !! MMA Is another world !

  • @Maartun
    @Maartun Před 9 měsíci

    Are they trying to KO each other or just friendly sparring?

  • @oliverjameshall2288
    @oliverjameshall2288 Před 2 lety +3

    I remember briefly learning kykoshin as a child. Was great fun. Sadly I was more interested in watching night rider on TV than going to classes. Such a shame really.

  • @Andrewcch74
    @Andrewcch74 Před 2 lety +14

    That is the culture in martial arts world, usually when you spar with the masters, it doesn't look good for the master if they got beaten so the juniors always don't go all out in the situation like this. This is called respect.

  • @mpc79
    @mpc79 Před 9 měsíci

    That's real Karate! Not that McDojo nonsense. 👏

  • @alantacher7145
    @alantacher7145 Před 3 měsíci +1

    Watches UFC once: "Yup, I'm ready"

  • @pupilmonk
    @pupilmonk Před 2 lety +13

    Such incredible speed and flexibility for someone who looks on the heavy set side very impressive demonstration could do well in a place like Glory or even the UFC if he learned grappling to go along with his striking skills

    • @Tespri
      @Tespri Před 2 lety +2

      It just looks impressive because his opponent refused to do anything than run away.

    • @ScorpionSuerte
      @ScorpionSuerte Před 2 lety

      He's running forward with his head totally exposed

    • @combatsportsarchive7632
      @combatsportsarchive7632 Před 11 měsíci

      @@Tespri Too bad you have not seen the good examples like the fight between Lechi Kurbanov and Travis Fulton.

    • @Tespri
      @Tespri Před 11 měsíci

      @@combatsportsarchive7632 bunch of no names. Just because one karate guy once wins, it doesn't make it viable martial art. Just as some one can win once with aikido as well. What matters is high level performance and stable winning rate. Karate sucks in all of these and karate kids are laughed to the hospital if they even dare to try street fight. You know.. place where punching to the head is legal ;)

    • @ordinaryavgguy
      @ordinaryavgguy Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@@TespriLaughing at the comments saying this guy would last in Glory or the UFC. He'd look like Fred Ettish in there.

  • @yetiking2057
    @yetiking2057 Před 2 lety +11

    He might have taken less damage going forward, that masters kicks where epic. That being said I can understand wanting to back up from that!

    • @Tespri
      @Tespri Před 2 lety +2

      Nah, it just means that guy isn't MMA fighter or even experienced fighter. Heck it's also sign of low IQ. You can completely eliminate kicks impact by closing in. Since all the momentum is near the feet, thus you can eliminate the impact's strenght by closing in and then grapple the leg that was used to kick and make a take down.
      Simply put this video is actually 2 karate practitioners making propaganda for karate. There is a reason why Karate never wins any tournaments.

    • @doromizu.
      @doromizu. Před 2 lety

      Mate its in the title, its a kyokushin sparring. Tf you talking about take downs for lol

    • @yetiking2057
      @yetiking2057 Před 2 lety

      @@doromizu. Talking about going closer to cut off kicking and punching power. I felt he was basically at a perfect range for his opponent to deliver powerful kicks. I mean either way he looked like he was in for it!

    • @combatsportsarchive7632
      @combatsportsarchive7632 Před rokem

      @@Tespri Some of them did win titles in early MMA such as the ones who participated in a MMA event called "All Nihon Combat Sports Championship" (1995). The footage for that MMA tournament is already available on this website. Just search a video titled "Full Contact Karate in Early MMA" to find it. That venue also brought other fighters from modern combat sports such as Combat Sambo and Shooto.

    • @Tespri
      @Tespri Před rokem

      @@combatsportsarchive7632 Early? So basically with some bs karate rules. Since clearly now all karate kids get demolished.

  • @MarceloBBorba
    @MarceloBBorba Před 7 měsíci

    In Brazil we say "tamanho nao é documento", "size is not document", basci it means that your size in a fight is not a big deal

  • @freashty
    @freashty Před 2 dny

    The set up for the foot sweep mixup from that last bodyshot was actually insane

  • @Docinaplane
    @Docinaplane Před 2 lety +12

    Those kicks were very good, powerful and accurate. What I don't understand is why such a short match and why didn't the MMA man do anything. Forget pressure, etc. in time, the karate fighter would get tired with that much output.

    • @hypnoticskull6342
      @hypnoticskull6342 Před 2 lety +13

      It's because MMA is more careful, while stuff like Kyokushin is just, "Fuck it. I'm going in."

    • @JanKowalski-pe9lo
      @JanKowalski-pe9lo Před 2 lety +14

      Because he couldn't punch in the face. I know dumb but thats the powerful tool. If you know you CAN be punched in the face you not going like this karate guy. I know what I'm talking about coz as a former kickboxer we used to train with kyokushin friends on their rules. Tough bastards they are but being able punch in the face changing things dramatically. Love those times :).

    • @Docinaplane
      @Docinaplane Před 2 lety +1

      @@JanKowalski-pe9lo My teacher's teacher was promoted to black belt by Mas Oyama :-)

    • @JanKowalski-pe9lo
      @JanKowalski-pe9lo Před 2 lety +2

      @@Docinaplane Yeah that`s a pretty clean lineage. Lucky you ;)

    • @Docinaplane
      @Docinaplane Před 2 lety +1

      @@JanKowalski-pe9lo Thank you! He changed my martial arts life for the better. I'm not as good as my teacher, but I do the best I can. Best!

  • @EPFForsyth
    @EPFForsyth Před měsícem +3

    Utter BS....He would get crushed in a fight...Point fighting is not fighting.

  • @Gawain_Phoenix
    @Gawain_Phoenix Před 2 lety

    Both of them being so respectful each other.

  • @stjfv01
    @stjfv01 Před 2 lety +1

    This guy moves like a video character 😅 and looks like a casual dude. His spin kick was so smooth and was throwing with good pace but just touching. ✊🏽cool stuff

  • @seraphinaaizen6278
    @seraphinaaizen6278 Před 2 lety +8

    Smothered. There's a BIG difference in skill level and experience here (I don't think the MMA guy has a lot of experience getting hit, to be honest. He seemed to get rattled despite the karateka taking is easy on him).
    I've got a lot of time for karate. Although when I studied karate it was essentially a belt factory (bad dojo), when properly taught karate is an extremely functional and effective martial art. It's no joke.

    • @goldehh1069
      @goldehh1069 Před 2 lety

      nice pfp who is that?

    • @Tespri
      @Tespri Před 2 lety

      So functional that they never win mma

    • @seraphinaaizen6278
      @seraphinaaizen6278 Před 2 lety

      @@Tespri What the heck are you talking about? There are several extremely successful karate fighters in MMA.
      Is it too much to ask that you fact check what you're about to say before you open your mouth and prove that you don't know anything whatsoever what you're talking about?

    • @Tespri
      @Tespri Před 2 lety

      @@seraphinaaizen6278 name one that uses only karate moves

    • @seraphinaaizen6278
      @seraphinaaizen6278 Před 2 lety

      @@Tespri .....Okay, sit down kid.
      Nobody in MMA uses ONLY karate, just like nobody in the MMA uses ONLY kickboxing. It's called "mixed martial arts" for a reason. There's no single martial art in existence that offers the complete skillset that a fighter is going to need inside an MMA environment.
      There are fighters who use a kickboxing base. There are fighters who use a karate base. But all these fighters will need to cross-train in other styles in order to make sure their skillset is filled out.
      Every single question you are asking at this point makes it abundantly clear that you don't know what the heck you're talking about. I would suggest, before you put your spindly little fingers back on the keyboard and ask another one, that you decide if this is the hill you want to die on or if you've done enough trolling for one day.

  • @MrHitotsumusha
    @MrHitotsumusha Před 2 lety +6

    Technically speaking the Kyokushin fighter is a Sensei or maybe a Shihan. Not a master in technical terms. But he could be considered a master of his own branch(s). If you look on the belt he has maybe 6 stripes and that's still a highly respectable rank. I love his kicking technique and how he's controlling it by pulling back his kicks so he doesn't hurt the other guy. Kyokushin is full contact fighting and so many great fighters comes from Kyokushin. Very impressive display. I wouldn't last 5 seconds with him.

  • @user-zx6dx8hw2x
    @user-zx6dx8hw2x Před 9 měsíci

    Красиво исполнил 👏

  • @CorporaMedicina
    @CorporaMedicina Před 2 lety +2

    The title should be "Human punching bag vs Kyokushin Master"

  • @san2476
    @san2476 Před 2 lety +4

    One day sensei is gonna learn to keep his hand up in a hard way

    • @nicklubrino2606
      @nicklubrino2606 Před 2 lety

      The Karate guy was kicking at will, with his hands down, because he knows he’s not getting punched in the face. Against a boxer, with his hands down, it’s unrealistic to last more than 5 seconds.

    • @giriprasadkotte9876
      @giriprasadkotte9876 Před 2 lety

      @@nicklubrino2606
      Kyokushin fighters are famous for taking blows to the face

    • @mandelamohammad904
      @mandelamohammad904 Před 2 lety

      @@giriprasadkotte9876 no they are not

    • @nicklubrino2606
      @nicklubrino2606 Před 2 lety +1

      @@giriprasadkotte9876 Famous for taking blows to the face? How can that be? I thought Kyokushin rules doesn’t allow punching to the face.

    • @giriprasadkotte9876
      @giriprasadkotte9876 Před 2 lety

      @@nicklubrino2606
      Yes. They aren't well prepared for face punches.

  • @nikeimizhongtomasch1880
    @nikeimizhongtomasch1880 Před 2 lety +3

    How about some MMA rules for round 2?

  • @michaeltrimble7680
    @michaeltrimble7680 Před 2 lety +2

    Kyokushin is one of my favorite forms of Karate. It’s karate, yeah, not everything is applicable in street or MMA fights, certainly not boxing, but the conditioning and rules make for a really cool, tough sport.

  • @stephensteele1213
    @stephensteele1213 Před 9 měsíci

    Master use his legs better than most people use their hands lol

  • @sigendymion
    @sigendymion Před 2 lety +6

    20 years ago I sparred against a kyokushin student.
    I got into a boxing stance, moved in, threw a jab, and he put his fingers in my right eye then kicked my stomach faster than I could move.
    A few months later I started karate, and never made that mistake again.
    A decade after that, ten years ago, I got my black belt, but truly.. it's not about the belt but the progress of learning

  • @zorioncosima7786
    @zorioncosima7786 Před 2 lety +4

    Kyokushin actually scary, they keep attacking and not backing up

    • @nicklubrino2606
      @nicklubrino2606 Před 2 lety

      The Karate guy was kicking at will, with his hands down, because he knows he’s not getting punched in the face. Against a boxer, with his hands down, it’s unrealistic to last more than 5 seconds.

  • @billymctaco721
    @billymctaco721 Před 9 měsíci

    Was he not allowed to fight back?

  • @jamescoward110
    @jamescoward110 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice kicks!!🙌👏

  • @solarjudgement4575
    @solarjudgement4575 Před 2 lety +4

    Not impressed considering the mma fighter didn't even try to fight back. Pretty sure he would lose but still. The karate guy just threw a puch of kicks with his hands down like he is practicing or something.

    • @SaikouKarate
      @SaikouKarate  Před 2 lety +3

      He tried to kick him back, he was overwhelmed and focused on defence, which you or most people unused to that level of pressure would be also. Throwing strikes back means opening up your defence which in this kind of situation ends up with a shin to your jaw.

    • @AndreiH1605
      @AndreiH1605 Před 2 lety +2

      @@SaikouKarate "unused to that level of pressure" lmaooo any so-called MMA fighter who is not used to people doing their best to kick him in the face is not a real MMA fighter

    • @SaikouKarate
      @SaikouKarate  Před 2 lety +2

      @@AndreiH1605 List me 10 MMA fighters who kick half as good as this. You don’t seem to understand the skill of a specialist vs a rounded MMA fighter.

    • @scottphillips8117
      @scottphillips8117 Před 2 lety +1

      @@SaikouKarate Exactly so. That's high level kicking and the guy was outclassed, period. Would he do so well in an MMA ruleset with takedowns and groundfighting.... maybe but probably not. Even so he's clearly a superior martial artist

    • @gongfutaijimy
      @gongfutaijimy Před 2 lety +2

      I think he could be fighting his reflex to punch the opponent in the face. That hesitation is enough for the Kyokushin guy to dominate.

  • @romachess4385
    @romachess4385 Před 2 lety +1

    Masterpiece of foot work!!! Wow! What was that?? Amazing!!

  • @defenceresearchanalysis4881

    Loved this ❤️❤️
    Great Kyokishin fighter

  • @edvardbavcon894
    @edvardbavcon894 Před 2 lety +1

    Fantastic technique, power and control

  • @andreamorrione
    @andreamorrione Před 3 měsíci +1

    Now we want to see vs an aggressive amateur... Hands up master

  • @taqytachiwa2855
    @taqytachiwa2855 Před 2 lety

    When takedown played, others are none

  • @benicavalera2543
    @benicavalera2543 Před 8 měsíci

    a wiseman once said; MMA is a mile wide, but an inch deep. karate is an inch wide, but a mile deep..

  • @micdlewis
    @micdlewis Před 14 dny

    Omg those kicks! Dude mov3s like a spirit.

  • @sangdopalri349
    @sangdopalri349 Před 2 lety +1

    Good geri skills and pressing. Weight?