Slava - The OG Soviet Railguns
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- čas přidán 3. 08. 2020
- The Slava has returned to the game, bringing with it the most ridiculous guns the game has to offer. 406mm shells with incredible vertical dispersion and penetration, capable of citadeling any shit at 20km+. However 406mm has suffered a fair bit of powercreep since we last saw it, and the ship has lost some bow armor.
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Man I just did my first stream in almost a week yesterday, and can finally make videos again, sorry about the absence, moving is a pain! Still some echo in my PC room, need to work on that, but Slava could not wait!
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Was the stream deleted or something? I can't watch it anymore
@@won-tonjohn4418 Yeah, since it was TDT and he deletes the VOD due to the possibility of a DMCA.
Flamu help me I found designs of Soviet CV's and I already know what's going to happen
Prolly need some filter on the mic, for those echoes
To balance this out we need you to recommend the USA tier X USS Missouri 91' lol
2:40 "Even the Kremlin can get punished at 20 km"
Da, comrade. In Soviet Russia balans ships get balansed by another balans ship
Slava: Snipes from across the map
Flamu: Records from across the room
Love your stuff though!
хороший микрофон и шумопоглащающий поролон в помощь ;-)
They made the AA strong on purpose so they can nerf it once everyone complains about the gunperformance.
Actually they can't
@@timlenzke872 Actually they can. This is not a premium ship.... This is a RB ship. So they absolutely can.
imoenbg1 They ‘could’ nerf a whole lot of special and freemium ships, but they’ve consistently never done so. The ships get removed from sale rather than nerfed.
It’s easier to just accept that this ship will never, ever be nerfed.
@@ShawFujikawa they said they would never nerf a premium
@@timlenzke872 These tier X "premiums" are actually considered "freemiums", ships you can't acquire with real money, and therefor can be nerfed if needed, WG has made very clear statements about this, even going as far as to give freemiums a special symbol in port (the ship inside the golden crown is silver in freemiums, and gold in premiums). Of course, WG avoids nerfing them because it's such an obvious shitstorm waiting to happen that even someone as dense as WG devs would see it coming a mile away. No one wants to grind 60k RP for an Ohio, or 30k steel for a Bourgogne, only to have it be nerfed to the ground right after.
She has better dispersion like most of the cruisers...blessed by Stalin
Stalin aims the shots for you, himself
So is it time to say goodbye to other BBs in competitive mode?
WG: Comrade, Slava only have 25mm bow and stern plating so she is a cruiser. 👌 All is balans, cyka blyat!
@@absboodoo Reminds me of the T10 Premium CV: Comrade Balansokov
Wonder when they add this
@@nicz7694 just before the italian bbs
Russian Navy irl: pretty sub par ngl
Russian Navy in wows: ONLY NAVY ABLE TO DEFEND AGAINST EXTRADIMENSIONAL THREATS
love this lol :)
They are compensating at this point tbh
Even Cthulu thinks twice when he sees the Slava....
Same in Azur Lane too
Wargaming: makes in game armor viewer so people can understand better how to deal and play certain ships.
also wargaming: let's make slava and puerto rico with hidden armor so people can't see how broken it is.
I’m just gonna get this out of the way: Slava is a Champagne equivalent at Tier 10 enough said
It has a style - an incredibly selfish style reminiscent of Battlecruiser playstyle Bbs
thedailybounce.net/world-of-warships/final-review-soviet-tier-x-reward-ship-slava/
All the important armor things you need to know:
Deck: 32 mm = everything can farm this
Bow plating: 25 mm = 15-inch guns onwards can farm full AP pens
Citadel: weak af but thanks to the low freeboard it can be hard to aim at unlike other Russian bbs
Weird armor plates?: slavas main belt uses a distributed armor scheme so the front part of the belt is thicker than the amidships belt - it has a front bulkhead NOT PART OF THE CITADEL, 420 mm thick sloped inwards down = you ain’t bow citadeling it
Turning circle = outright massive, makes Moskva look good
AA = decently strong
Typical commie tactic, hiding data, they do the same in WOT, show you one thing, but they never mention the hidden stats, the true stats
@@neonlight1214 Eh no bad accuracy is a thing, just how Guassian dispersion works in WOT makes the numbers impact not as relevant after 8.something when the new mechanics for dispersion were introduced. The hidden stats do matter more since OTM, on Rotation and after firing stats are important more so than base accuracy.
Also players: mY bROaDsiDE is STroNG
I don't get why there isn't a pro armour viewer WITHIN THE GAME that shows everything, it can be hidden in the options menu if they have to, but I want that data without having to go and pay gamemodels3d to data-mine it.
Playerbase: Can't get any worse after the made up Kremlin and Petropavlovsk
WG: Hold my kvass .... there you go comrade take that Stal...uhm Slava!
The kremlin honestly doesn’t even bother me because of the trash dispersion. Yamato dispersion is way better from medium to far range while Kremlin excels in close quarters combat. Kremlin may have “low” vertical dispersion, but with all of the sigma and AA nerfs I honestly would rather play the Monty for more consistent games.
Tamás Kerecsényi imagine still thinking that petro is op lmao
Atleast you can kill this thing in a reasonable amount of time.
Arctic Wolf doubt
@xellossaxon Don't feed the troll pls, if Kremlin was that I wouldn't be able to hit/kill DDs with him in ranges of 16-18km... Also, would like to see Monty tanking 5-6mil (or even more) potential alone vs 5-6 (or more) ships and sink at least 2 before going down. AA? AA is a joke except the Halland and CV AA systems. Size, turning circle, rudder-shift, armor, HP pool, penetration and vertical dispersion makes Kremlin a monster in ranges up to 19km.
wow man 2020 cant get any worse.
Wg: slava!
ffs-
incoming another dockyard for Christmas that requires you to grind 2x as much as the PR
@@SDZ675 it'll be a RP ship
@@antoniohagopian213 yup. If new USN BB's split got 40 secs reload I cannot imagine how long it will be on ITA BB's.
5:45 "Bad close range dispersion"
@managarm1349
FDG: misses every single shell on a izumo at 3km
FDG: my job here is done
"Hm, it's been a few months maybe I should try Warships aga-"
WG: Slava
"Nope."
Q: Why do I play low tier?
A: Slava
Q: Why do I quit WoWs
A: HE Spammer
Q. Why this game is having less active players？
A. Tons of balancing problems yet to be answered or simply rejected because of stupid reasons. Company also never listened to content creaters and player base opinion and do only what they wanted to.
Q. Why do I only play PT
A. Because I balans Soviet bots with my German balans
Here’s me asking WG about 2 CVs per side in lower tiers and Radars everywhere at higher ones. WG SOLVED
Hello Commander,
Thank you for contacting us.
In this regard, I'd like to remind you that aircraft carriers are an essential part of naval history and an essential part of our game now, too.
We understand the importance of balance adjustments and they are made as we collect relevant statistics, the current version of the CVs will be further developed and fine-tuned.
When being focused by an enemy CV, you've got to reinforce your AA defense by using consumables (and, perhaps, opting for AA-based mounts), asking for help from allied aircraft carriers or sticking to the ships with better AA defense.
We can only hope that you'll like our upcoming updates more. Should you have any questions regarding our game, please let us know.
Best regards,
@@GeoffParsons1469 lol
This ship is just a big middle finger to the whole community.
I think WoWS community really needs one...
Like most things WG has done in last 3 years..... And community just keeps on taking it!
@Blue Angel Yup, waiting for Assasins creed Valhalla and Cyberpunk myself, playing a bit RDR2 in the meanwhile.
@American Man I totally agree. Its just a shitfest these days. They just stack new OP ships on top of each ogher and push CVs into everything.
especially to newer players who don't understand the game well
getting deleted from 23km is rage quit material for beginners in a t8
Funny how Russian navy ships in this game are so powerful, yet i can't recall a single great russian naval battle ever won in history.
Well just google, maybe they didn't naval battle that much
They lost at Japanese - Russian war
In real life Russian navy was the joke of the rest of nation's navy
Sidenote always prefer to call it Clowns navy
They won the battle of the Dogger Bank, where the mighty Baltic fleet took on three fishing trawlers and their own cruiser Aurora KEK
@@bndfer I know the russian sub fleet once sank several passenger ships trying to flee the baltic states too during ww2.
Slava: Shoots toward your general direction
Me : Guess I'll detonate
Sees Slava on enemy team
Me: Ok time to keep his position in mind at all times and stay somewhat angled.
My Team:
Hippity hoppity my broadside is now his property!
This ship just warranted my 2nd retirement from this game
I quit the game for good. The only Real prize i wanted was Odin (even though it is unplayable) that just bound me to the game. Well, move on and start searching again. At least this game gave me my interest in warship history.
@@balistik4901 warthunder hast the first bigger ships in it now, I switched for warthunder now, didn't regret for a second, the grind is heavy tho, but the ships are much more realistic and fun to play, you can even aim your secondaries manually
WG:"Slava has 25mm of bow plating as a balancing factor"
Oh, so it gets its ridiculous guns in exchange for being really vulnerable to bow-in citadels?
"Well, yes, but actually no."
But 150 mm upper belt side Armour. Balanced for a 20km sniping ship with 91k. No bias at all
"The Slava has returned to the game, bringing with it the most ridiculous guns the game has to offer. 406mm shells with incredible vertical dispersion and penetration, capable of citadeling any *shit* at 20km+." ~ Yeah, OP ship would pen any shit.
That is a actually the main problem
Let's not mention the side Armour which is incredibly high for a 20km ship.. 150 upper belt Armour? I mean close range ships don't even go close that value
Ahhh, here we go again...
Kremlin: poor long range dispersion
Slava: poor close range dispersion
Yeah, "poor disp". Meanwhile Pommern will be added with 1.5 sigma...
Yeah, a ship that rewards passive BB gameplay! Exactly what the game needs!
Let's see what excuse wg comes up with to leave this ship in the game..
Money ? As you now can buy Research Points in September update...
because it isnt a good ship...just get Thunderer
@@gabysse can you really? Wtf?
Similar to how you could buy steel from Odin dockyard by buying extra stages early on
@@Ermy1996 Well, with the future Anchorage construction, any of the 20 phase you overdo is rewarded, just like for Odin. Except it's with Research Points instead of Steel (600 if I remember well). So yeah, you can pay for it now ;)
Flamu : "Hates" anime
Also Flamu : Has Azure Lane "dock"
he doesnt hate anime. He is hidding so other part of his viewers stay subbed. He is big weeb.
Yes, he is actually a big Weeb. You should see him play Azur Lane.
And those lovely facial reactions when twitch sends him links lmao.
Slava at 20km:- 7 hits form 9 shots
GK at 20km:- 7 hits from 9 volleys................
Flamu, your bathroom has beautiful acoustics!
Why is WG keep ruining the game? :((
I really liked this game when it first came out......
Because of two things
1) $$$$$$
2) Russian server stats were down hence this long line of ego padding brokenness
They need to please their "tiny dick" community they have in the RU server, there is where the money is, they do the same in WOT for many years and they will do the same here, they dont care the rest of the servers, just RU
When you cater to the lowest denominators who spend money play a few month then bugger off ....you get slave, Smolensk and broken cvs
It was fun during Alpha wave 2 and 3. Japan only had Battleships and Destroyers, USN only had Cruisers and Carriers.
Slava NDA gets removed in the middle of the stream
Ship is so broken that flolo doesnt need 3 weeks to get a good game to show
WG: how disgusting do we want this ship to be?
WG: yes
immagine slava accuracy, velocity and penetration with kremlin caliber and hull being put together, and called it Soviet Balance
The moment i see this....
I cant wait for russian fantasy carriers.
Armed with tsar bomb :D
Go to Hell! Don write about it, DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!!!!!!
dominges I thought about it
Great content as usual, thanks flamu
WG, do you want to balance this thing?
I tell you what you do: *40 SECONDS OF RELOAD TO MAIN GUNS*
Have you seen that amazing ram at 3:54? 632 vs ~75k health
Nice catch!
Another Russian ship with an utterly impossible armour scheme. I wonder why.
@Vladimir Putin no
@Vladimir Putin 150 upper belt side Armour.. Yes, "weak". Let's not mention that she's a 20km sniping ship so u'll tank with air dragged shells
Ah yes, seeing this makes me cry when I have a great shot at a Montana in my GK at 19km range and only hit 1 of 12 grenades and that's an overpen
You better improve your aim
KM BB life man. I was playing a game in the Gniesenau earlier, and a Fuso backed around an island at 5 km, I shoot with the front guns and all four shots miss, 2 over and two under
@@AH-pq7yw improve my aim? Are you kidding me? The shots went FAR and SHORT!!! they were on target horizontally. In other words: it wasn't my fucking aim
@@andrewduan5123 now that... Is ridiculous. And people say German ships aren't disadvantaged
@@vermas4654 i think its a combo that Im running a secondary build (no aiming systems) and its the absolute worst possible rng on the gniesenau's already questionable guns. Edit: he died anyway cus Gniesenau has torpedoes, but still...
"Hello, Hello. Today, I talk about the day Russian bias is SO obvious, that the game is killed."
Haven't logged into the game in 3 months now. After seeing this I'm not tempted to anytime soon.
I don't know if it's a combination of the best pubstomps or your playstyle of avoiding any frontline ever but it's impressive how you see in this vids entire games of multiple people (pretty much the entire enemy team) broadside and oblivious of your spotted presence, in my games every body is doing hard turns for their life and also my team people in full life battleships is waiting 25km away and running to the next map patiently waiting for me in some light cruiser to soak damage for the win
You hit that 100k and seemed to quit posting as much. Need more vids! lol. Awesome content as always man
This is the way
Wargaming is best when it comes to ruining their own games....
Well idiots that keep playing their games make fun of themselves..
slava has been in testing longer then the cv rework.
So they removed the Slava from the game, boxed it up, brought more ships into the game and reintroduced the ship in near-identical form since they did "bAlAnCe" the ship.
Every now and then I like to check in and see if people are still torturing themselves playing this utterly broken games.
bru this sheep would greatly benefit from 3 charges of rapid reload. That would be good balans.
Damn, i was waiting for a Pommern review
WG: *Introduces tons of HE spamming, deep water torpedoes, fast loading torpedoes, dozens of ships that excel at brawling, OP CV gameplay, extremely OP russian cruisers and battleships that also excel at mid-close range combat.*
Also WG: "Why won't players push in? Let's introduce a dedicated Balans ship to fix things."
Is it official on what currancy or how you can get one when its released? reserch, free xp etc ?
that thunder ram was great
Unlike Champagne, Slava can atleast have some tankiness with those side plates. But sheer consistency of the shells is madness. I think WG will stop selling them soon lol
So, the takeaway is that Slava excels at surprise buttsecks.
I was just laughing during this entire video..
Now I've got a well developed sixpack, cheers :)
the one good thing is, that people cant blame rng for not hitting with this ship.
You cant angle against two slavas in a team though.
@Flamu your aim is so amazing. Can u give us a little guide for this? Thank u!
This game should be called world of Russian bias warship.
the reason why long range snipers are being played more, is simply the power of HE spam, when cruisers and DD's can melt a BB in less than a minute it makes the big ships too vulnerable especially as their reload is 30+ seconds on most, if WG reduce fire damage people will want to brawl more.
Guess we know what competitive line-ups will look like for a while.
Is there a release date for this balans?
The real reason why naval cannons are different from AT guns, even USSR didn't use railguns like that at sea is barrel life. There is so much pressure in firing naval shells that the rifling will be worn after ~ 50 shots (for 220mm Moskva guns), which affects accuracy immensely . Imagine having a gun almost twice the caliber. You would have to change the barrel every 10 shots or so.
But WG is like "hurr durr new flavor" and give guns that would literally tear itself apart every shot 10x accuracy of proven, well-made & well-maintained USN guns
IMO these russians BBs need 2x GK dispersion & 120s reload to swap those barrels
I'm sure having seen THAT, it it will prevent people from hiding behind islands ...
Waiting to see triple slava division that can crossfire from any point across the map
Can we get an update of this video @flamu for the commander/skill rework?
Thanks for making low tiers great again, WG!
At around 62,000 RB points, the gate is fairly high. You'd need to redo all the lines of at least 2 nations. That's a fairly long grind.
Very squishy glass cannon. 2-3 ships HE spam her and burn her to sink. AP overmatch nose and ass. Reserved ONLY for PRO who knows how to avoid enemy shells. Even torps are very dangerous. 3-4 of them and sunk. Very nice and pleasent on Flamu's hands who is a PRO. Dont ever think for a moment you can repoduce what Flamu is doing ...
so to balance this out can the US bbs get increased pen angles if they shoot super heavy ap why only leave it to the cruisers, US line is already powercreeped to hell
This is a Cruiser Player's Battleship : )
How much more accurate are these guns compared to thunderer or yamato?
Busted.
Please review German Pommern. First t9 bb with torpedoes
I feel really bad for german BB players...
German BBs are designed to brawl, but with things like this hanging around they will never get close enough to use any of their secondaries...
If you spec full secondary on German BB's you can be spotted from Mars and get HE spammed/farmed before you even get into secondary range.
I don't even bother playing my GK anymore, Need to respec it one day just for normal BB captain skills.
Basically most BB's these days you have to spec concealment and fire prevention, Otherwise you are the first to die within 5 minutes as they spot and farm you. What's worse is even just to get a few good shots in from main guns,The German BB's dispersion is so bad you are forced to get in closer just to consistently hit anything.
david and martine albon you know if you angle against Slava she can't do shit right
GK should hv something like 55-56 deck Armour to balance her huge superstructure. Strong, but pennable by some ships. Instead, we have Kremlin with non existant superstructure and unpennable central deck. What a joke of a game
How Van i get the slava? Will it be a premium to buy? Your Streams are the best ❤️
Typo in the description.
"capable of citadeling any shit "
How easy is this ship going to be to obtain? Is it at least a steel ship so only a relative few will get it or?
When will it be released and for what currency?
Imagine, with the CV snip division by Yuro, GZ and Slava.
Wish my Bismarck had this bad short range dispersion.
Thanks to iChase in finding this in the first place. See iChase's Twitch Mentoring Tuesday stream from this week. Aerroon helped iChase test this also in the stream and it's on his stream from the same day, but without the 3D armor views iChase has. I find it most interesting that WG doesn't show this magical extra Soviet armor in their in-game armor viewer?
Another ship from the stalinium line. And we still get 7% dispersion after the grind of your life with Yammato. The turrets could be nailed down to the deck for all i care but 7% dispersion? really... Maybe they want all of us to play russian ships?... dunno...
No experience playing it yet, but I can guarantee the Pommern cant hold a candle to this thing. Any chance of a Pommern review soon?
Still better than CVs for the game imo
CV is cancer and planes and their pilots should go to world of warplanes. Remove planes from the game.
Cant wait to see 2-3 of these on each side in every game.
Not going to ruin the fun of the game at all!
Reminds me of when they introduced Kremlin... and Smolensk... So glad WG moved CB to tier 6 this season
@@saltefan5925 every time they introduce a new Russian ship they have to make sure to that it's the best ship in the game to please the Russian player base it seems. Shameful.
Any idea of how this ship can be obtained? Steel, Coal, Research Bureau?
Research bureau I think
Research bureau...i think cost will be 63000 Rp.
@@laszlohodosy2490 I don't know if I'll be glad that not just anyone can get it, or dread that most likely veteran players who will know what they are doing can get the ship.
Beautiful o7
There’re GK captains that snipe? I take them out with secondaries myself.
would this be any good in a comp meta or no
19.5km on Montana with daft time to target, 4 citadels 😳
someone mention the description yet?
You sound so very tired, I figure it was because of the move but i also can't help but think the flolo is very tired of the return of this monstrosity
He's probably tired of WG's shit, the actual shit going on in the world at large and probably from moving house.
*Chuckles* time to send out more tickets to the gulag
Flolo, still working on sound dampening I presume? Mainly bass dampening from what I hear.
herr flamu, what can we do to prevent this ship and petro from running all random battles?
Krishna Kandury angle
So Slave range upgrade too snipe cvs??
Maybe it could be balanced by classifying it as a CV. I think I will uninstall. High tier is unplayable nowadays
sooo what im getting is the fact that this was what iowa was supposed to be ingame but never was so instead they add slava...........
Wonder if Soviet "sikrit" document has Carrier too?
@Flamu thoughts on the Pommern?
"citadeling any shit" :D
Ships that were actually build should always be more powerful in game that paper magical ships