The Real Reason 11 Million Are Not Working in UK
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It is Brit laziness and started around 40 years ago.
You are a outright LIAR!; while there are 9,000,000 economically inactive working age people, only 1,400,000 of those are unemployed; the rest are NOT unemployed because they are either in education or training, or are disabled, or caring for a severely ill relative.
I'm a former technician and the reason people Dont want to work is because the money is crap and toxic work environments. Quantity over quality and a revolving door of staff.
Exactly this.
It has always been like this, something else has changed.
@@VincentRE79expectations due to improved living conditions.
@@VincentRE79 Nope, the value of pay has been slacking more and more behind in comparison to the needs of living.
And the welfare system provides an incentive not to work
Wages are far too low. You need to earn £45,000 a year before income tax to afford childcare for two children and most people dont earn anywhere near that so theyre better off not working. I earn £80,000 and still feel poor due to housing costs
You either live in Central London or spend too much.
That's not true - my wife and I together are on 6 figures and we live in Cardiff.. yet with mortgage, daycare, groceries etc. it feels like we are just getting by
@@travellingtom6091 I spend too much trying to live the lifestyle I grew up with when my parents were student nurses. I drive a Toyota, live in a modest 3 bed house in Devon which is £100,000 below the average house in my town. Had one holiday in 6 years. I have a motorbike which is my only enjoyment in life. Shoot me
@@emrebennett2857 How?!!! Break it down for us.
I consider myself extremely fortunate to be able to get by on £7,500/year... S**t's tough out there in the real world.
The notion that people are opting out due to idleness is a neoliberal myth. Speaking as a former university lecturer I can confirm that even this sector has been totally transformed into a profit oriented service industry driven by growth mania and the ambitions of a careerist elite. Despite working in much-needed tech disciplines (physics and engineering) I retired at the earliest opportunity from a chaotic, toxic work environment. This is the legacy of 40+ years of neoliberalism - and no, I’m not a raving lefty either. Let’s hope the future holds a more rational approach to economic development than a rentier economy presided over by ruthless monied entitled toffs.
Of course you're a raving lefty, you use phrases such as 'neoliberal myth'.
Hit the nail on the head. Good comment sir x
You sound like alayabout > You never worked in the apalling conditions I worked in yet I worked untill I was 70!
Working seems more like punishment than working. Poor management makes it 100x worse than it should be. There is an awful abuse of power when people earn a management position and no one wants to be a victim of them.
Your comment ought to be the top rated one
That started in the 80's when thatcher pushed it and based it on the american Hellish model. Prior to that you could get really good employers, smaller businesses who valued people who worked for the. Once big business took over workers became drones, a number and the service industry is one of the worst!
Recently left a company that a lovely lady that had worked at the same company for 17 years had retired.. a week too early to get the miserly 5% bonus, at the advice of her director. She worked until the end regardless. Family run business. Poor management exists beyond large corporations. Wasn't all bad, the owners, sons of the original entrepreneur, all had lovely new cars. And it was a bad year, so they'll be fine. Good luck Janet, you are a beautiful soul.
@@CleverContrarian many thanks 👍
Stop being a victim blaming others. Plenty of good places to work.
I worked in I.T. for 20 years and in that time I received just two days of training. No investment in staff, no career progression, no employee care, awful colleagues and managers with blame culture, hiring managers lying to you about what the job actually entailed. I gave up caring and just went for the money - I didn't care what I did in the end.
What job did you move into?
Join the club! I've been in IT since 1994 and have had the same experience.
I am 3 years into my career in software development and I can relate.
36 years for me. Only training was in the early years when I worked for the NHS. Recently made redundant and seeing how long I can manage without a job as my skills are so outdated. Thought about training for newer tech but the market is so messed up that I'd probably be senile before I found something.
My primary objective was to retire as early as possible because I hated my J.O.B (Jackass of the Boss). My managers didn't care about what I did and had no interest in my career progression and were only interested in their own progression. My UK directors were desperately trying to sell off the successful tech company I worked to foreign companies so that they could buy a large yacht and retire. The middle management I worked with were awful and had constant tribal battles to win one other each other. By 54 I was part-time and by 56 I was in the financial position that I could retire. So I had the last laugh. I can spend more time with my child which I really value.
Alot of people not working-->More Job openings--> Applying for a job --> Get rejected for no reason.😂😂😂 What a cruel world.
there is a reason. actually, there are 5million reasons. cheaper too.
Easy to point the finger ay. Lazy thinking.
In 2020, I was 59 when I got thrown out my job because of Covid. Like many others, I was forced to look at my pension, savings, debts etc. As I had no job at all, and got zero help financially I had to make a few difficult choices. I moved to Bulgaria (where property is cheap), bought a house outright and settled down. We can manage on what we have. I went back to work for 6 months or so in 2023, but frankly I prefer being at home. I'll be 64 this year. I claim nothing from the UK Government, or Bulgaria.
funny how the East came to the West for a future, now the West comes to the East for retirement.
Wages are so low you cant see a long term vision of prosperity through work anymore. For Gen Z and Millenials the hyperfocus on wealth in social media and politics is highly unmotivating
The more you work the more you get taxed.
I earn 48.5k. I take home £2.7k per month after tax, NI, pensions and shares.
I’m grateful for my salary but in no way do I live an extravagant life.
£2.7k is nice. If you live on half and save rest for buying rental properties.
Nobody thinks that's extravagant. It's definitely comfortable though for a single adult
For that income do you have to spend a lot of time at work ?
You're very lucky
that literally takes the p1ss 48.5k ... and you take home just under 3 k I hope you dont work long hours.
How do we have a system where some of those who work need to rely on benefits? Why is the tax payer subsidising inadequate wages?
Tax threshold
@ihshaikh because of capitalism where profit for the sake of profit is the only thing that should be focused on
Considering the average salary (£35k) no longer allows you to have an average life (3 bed house, 1 car, 2 kids, 1 holiday per year) why would people bother working? Even couples on average salary each are struggling right now.
Why do you assume two kids? Nobody forces you to have them.
@@tancreddehauteville764 because the average person has two kids. I’m saying that the average salary should give you an average life but it does not.
@@christopherspriggs4179 clearly only the rich should be allowed to breed peasant /s.
A lot of this is due to women going out to work too. It causes inflation as two incomes get applied to one household. Net result we are no better off but 2 people labouring and home life suffering. Great outcome!
@@tancreddehauteville764 Funny, because the birth rate has been on decline hasn't it? I wonder why?
I think a lot of people used to work even when they were sick or injured but now people don't want to live their life just enduring suffering. They want to be supported. And community doesnt exist anymore so they need to go to the gov first.
Things are very overwhelming, politics, cost of living, low paid jobs always seem to be in customer service, will never own your own home. No national pride either.
Im not saying ppl arent motivated to work but things feel very hopeless
True for many young adults, what are they working for? Unaffordable housing, low wages, increases cost of necessities like food...why bother. The system is clearly not working...actually no it works pretty well for the wealthy.
I cannot say why, but parts of some uk towns have sky-high levels of long-term unemployment .....Bradford, Luton, Burnley , Blackburn, Blackpool, Stoke . Its almost as if the people living there have rejected our society and our culture.
It's more, or at least equally, that society has rejected them. Actually offer them a decent job, and I guarantee most will be interested. (But of course, doing so would be communism, which is bad, so it won't be done.)
Hi lugo. Blackpool is 98% white British. What are you trying to imply?
Can't say about most of where you said, but as someone from stoke over half of it is boarded up and run down. Go into any towns high street and all you see is building after building of boarded up out of business stores, restaurants, bars etc. then the odd nail salon and Turkish barber. There's nothing here and the few places still standing are getting more automated so even those jobs are slowly disappearing aswell.
Critics say there is a skill supply shortage, arguing that many fields of education lack quality and market application, but I think studies should be carried out on the unreasonable demands of employers. It is often the case that simple work is now advertised with requirements that ask for far too much skill and experience.
I agree. I have been looking for IT roles for many months. I have years of experience in the fields applied for even to be told by recruiters your CV looks perfect for the role. I then get rejected just because I have no experience of one single what I consider the least important thing. I then see the job is still advertised 6 months later. It's not that employers cannot find people, they want a unicorn 🦄
@@David-bi6lf Some "employers" list jobs without necessarily needing any more employees. They can continue to collect the most recent CV details for data analysis, and frankly if it's not illegal to list vacancies with no real intent to hire, then its a very advantageous political lobby tactic adding pressure towards adjusting the Labour market to better suite employers over workers...
Employers want ready made staff because training costs time and money, trying to pass this back to the state by calling it a skills gap is crazy. This is never going to happen as skilled people are (generally) always in demand. University should always be about studying a particular field of interest, not just about training someone for a job. But try getting in most decent paying technical fields without a degree and it's at best difficult and likely you'll be paid less, or at worst totally impossible.
I in 7 adults have literacy of an 11 year old or less, nearly 50% of adults have the numeracy of an 11 year old. That's really scary.
@@hilarygibson3150 That's just how the tories and reform even more so like it. It means people vote for them. 😜
I am French based in the UK for a long time. The couple of times I had to claim benefits, my family were chocked by the amount. Here everyone gets the same amount but in many EU countries, calculation is based on your last salary lol.
So did it encourage you ti get back to work sooner?
Also, what's the overall standard of living compared to France?
Indeed I have been made redundant twice and both these times are the only two occasions I have ever needed to claim benefits. You quickly find out there is no reward for working when times get tough and if you have built up savings the deductions vastly outstrip the interest you could make thus they are quite clearly expecting you to use your savings.
@@Jay-xr3sb I went back to work when I found it - I never avoided work
How much did you get a month?
Work for what exactly ? the wages are terrible the money is being devalued almost every second, sky high inflation, unaffordable homes, younger generations getting poorer the list goes on
Bent greedy corrupt private firms who do not give a shit about you and rob your wages every month .
Younger generations will never be able to afford a home and to have a family either, life is pretty meaningless for them.
I definitely think that the uk coukd do with moving a lot of university courses to apprenticeships.
They are making bank off of foreign students. It’s a business for universities not a place to actually make the future bright. They only want high performing students to say theirs is the best and to get the most money from that good feedback. I actually heard a university president or whatever they’re called shout out loud in a graduation ceremony that ‘I want to DOUBLE international students here as they’re so good for our university and culture and country’ what I actually heard in translation from bullshit to English was ‘we’re making so much fucking money I want to make even more’
We've all got our wires crossed. University should be about studying an area of interest, it's not directly correlated to a job. College education should be more technical and hands on, but try getting a job in most decent paying fields without a degree and it's impossible.
Rising mental health problems are due to the system
People have seen to forgot that they created all those University places to try and replace all the apprenticeships in industry that where lost when manufacturing was out sourced. So I dont really see the the point in bring them back without the industry to employment them.
Construction will always have places but there is still a limit to how many are need, if we train 100,000s of plumbers a year all you will do is lower the wages of plumbers.
I worked in a Job Centre from 2021 when restrictions were still in place but lifting, there were two main reasons:
1. The under 25’s brains are fried by social media and tech use, every other young person had mental health issues with no services available to access. When you asked them about work, many wanted to be ‘influencers’
2. People no longer desire to work as they have little hope for the future. Far easier to adjust one’s life to fit in with your benefit entitlement than to attempt to progress in a society which taxes you so heavily you can barely afford to survive after working anyway. There were also those which received more in benefits per month than I did in my salary, and they would still complain it’s not enough.
Glad I no longer work there as it was so depressing.
What do you earn? What benefit gives you more than that?
@@ericritchie6783 it was between £20-30k, for some families with kids, especially lone parents, housing element of benefits included you could receive in excess of £2000 every four weeks.
I’m based in the south so that may skew things however that is a significant sum especially when some are working all month and not clearing that amount.
@@ericritchie6783 You'd have to have a few kids to receive that much benefits. Basic UC is £393.45 a month, less than £5000 a year.
What was the pay like?
It gives you time. One thing you will understand when you are on your death bed. Time is not something you can buy. Why work all the hours of the week when you can do other (cheap) things with your life.
My perspective on work definitely changed after covid. I chose lower pay for a less stressful work environment. I haven't looked back one bit!
once you get a taste of not working, its difficult to go back to that slavery
Sir
I am 60 years old I have made applications to over 100 jobs since getting a lung infection in November whilst at recycling plant which was the only job I found.
There is a trick being played on the British "want to work" working people. I have made 10 applications to "a leading supermarket" alone, of which seem to have preferences to employ one race of people, of which are exploiting a visa loop hole.
I am not 100% but I can and want to work and your video does not represent my present position.
Thank you Chap 🇬🇧👍✌️
In 1980 I had a mortgage on a 23000 pound house, and I was truck driving and earning 150 pounds a week. Then in 1989 I sold up and moved to Greece. That house today is going for over 250.000. But is a truck driver on 1.500 a week???
The definition of 'economically inactive' is far too vague. Politicians (Tories and Reform mostly) use it and then pin everyone who is 'economically inactive' as 'scroungers'. The fact of the matter is most people who ARE on working benefits such as universal credit HAVE jobs but still need a top up in order to survive and continue working, then there are the genuine sick and disabled, most of whom want to work and run a normal life but literally cannot because of their health in a country where our health system is a wreck (thanks, Tories!). The remainder are a small number of people who should not be expected to be economically active and Labour will need to separate those from the rest to ensure they are NOT treated badly like they are now. People with severe autism cannot be expected to face the working world because there is no way they will function in it, yet they have to jump through loopholes and face the evil that is the DWP who literally care not a damn and try to fill a quota of 'getting people back to work' with no care or compassion for the individual.
Thanks for mentioning neuro diversity, yeah it does seem like that might just be lumped into "mental heath and stress" stat.. And then that's just all reduced to issues of "confidence and anxiety" when not necessarily much to do with that.
Thing is you can also be unemployed and still make the effort to do volunteer work, the economy being as it is doesn't necessarily value all kinds of work that might otherwise have educational or environmental value, or value to the community.
When they say "not working" they just mean not financially employed basically which is a little unfair.
Very well stated.
Most inactive people over 50 are ex public sector workers on massive gold plated pensions, my brother in law just retired at 53 on a sergeant police pension , don’t believe me watch any buying homes abroad programme, they are all ex public sector, rarely private sector.
Reforms platform of "face to face" pip checks. Do reform know why there currently are not those checks? Because nurses refuse to work that job. They are not esa workers, they did not get into their roles to persecute sick people.
I can't remember the last time a politician of any party referred to 'scroungers'. Are you able to let me know which particular politician you are referring to, with the quote ?
The UK lacks earnings-related unemployment benefits, unlike most other developed countries. This makes it spectacularly ungenerous to workers in their capacity as workers.
It ranks among the least generous in the developed world, especially for unemployment benefits.
While it performs slightly better for families with children, it still falls below average compared to other wealthy nations.
The system provides minimal income protection, particularly for workers, and has seen a significant decline in generosity over the past few decades.
Benefit generosity in Britain fell sharply in the early 1980s and has remained low compared to almost all European countries since then. The generosity of unemployment benefits in particular has collapsed, showing the highest percentage fall (44%) of any benefit among comparable countries.
The UK is also rated 4 out of 5 on the International Trade Union Confederation's (ITUC) Global Rights Index, meaning there are "systematic violations of rights" for workers.
This rating of 4 puts the UK with the USA and ranks it among the worst in Europe, with only Turkey and Belarus having a worse rating of 5.
This poor performance is evident in restrictions on strike actions, allowing the use of agency workers to break strikes, and overall limitations on workers' freedoms and protections.
We're not a wealthy country, London and the mega rich skew the figures. We're in further decline and can't fund an aging population.
You want even more expenditures for people who are useless to the economy? Increasing emoluments to unemployed is an incentive to stay unemployed. That is why the UK economy is falling so rapidly, everybody is holding out their hand for money.
@@Jay-xr3sbtrue. We are the sixth biggest economy in the world, yet in terms of GDP per capita we are the twenty seventh country behind most of our European neighbours including Ireland who are number three!
Increasing benefits? Must be a joke.
I think the benefits should be raised to a level where nobody has to go to work. It’s a pain in the arse?
The trouble with vocational qualifications is that society sees them as second class and attaches the noun Trades to them. Somebody to fix the plumbing or build an extension/new property not somebody of value to society. Rant over.
It’s a consequence of the class system. But it is changing, not least because of the large number of graduates with no obvious skills
I disagree. With A.I. trades people are the only ones with guaranteed employment. University education is pointless.
And yet we are massively short of sufficient skilled trades people in the construction industry - for most of the last 30-40 years we have had this problem and "solved" it by importing skilled people from poorer countries in EU. The sad fact is that the average of the skilled trades people we have is getting older. Plumbing, electricians, high quality plasterers for example now earn very good wages
I view the term ’trades people’ as derogatory. If you have the skills & qualifications for certain job then you are a professional.
Anyone with their head screwed on right will recommend young people become skilled in a "trade". Good, reliable work. Partly because of shortages, partly because it can't be automated within the foreseeable future.
Another good job many people don't even know exists is agronomist. There's a shortage there, too. My Dad earned very well indeed and had head hunters trying to poach him at the age of 63.
Going to work is costly. Car /insurance/petrol 5k before you even get a paycheck 11.44/h reality in small towns or rural areas.
Unemployment by ethnicity.
The overall unemployment rate in 2022 was 4%
White 3%
Combined Bangladeshi and Pakistani 9%
Asian ‘other’ 7%
Black 7%
Why break it own by ethnicity also where did you get the figures
@@jimpaddy79 because the media like to portray white British, 3%, as lazy unemployed. But the reality is different.
Also the figures show what people believe about those from the Indian subcontinent: 9% !
The figures come from the government website (gov.uk) report:
Unemployment
Published 28 November 2023
Last updated 26 March 2024
CZcams doesn't let me include the link.
You ever watched benefits britain
@@EmmanuellaUdofia nope.
He made them up.
Might have something to do with people getting terminally ill younger because the NHS is not functioning.
All excellent points but there was an omission of the role of ageism (...I'm not a fan of ..."isms" but let's call it like it is) in the workplace. This may disincentivise senior workers from re-engaging with the workplace, should they be pushed off the ladder at any stage, say by an employer's "re-structuring". In many white collar contexts the assumption will be that new entrants will be young and you'd have reached a managerial position by middle age. This effectively freezes out senior workers trying to get back on the ladder in new sectors. For those who manage to do this, a culture of banter assuming you'd have a view on who you fancy on Love Island etc effectively makes the senior person a pariah. A lot of work needs to be done in changing the culture of employment if valuable human capital isn't going to remain on the sidelines.
Mental illness being the largest contributor to the inactivity is interesting. Mental illness is serious, sometimes fatal illness which is woefully under served by NHS/public sector. However, it is also almost certainly the case that some, maybe even many, people who are current out of work due to anxiety types of illness, would find their mental health improves by getting a job and critically having the daily routine that having a job entails. Sadly we have a system of benefits that increases anxiety, that has no or virtually no interrelationship with the NHS to assist those people to work up the courage to take the difficult and often panic inducing step of getting back into the jobs market
The trouble is mental heath is not necessarily all to do with "chronic anxiety" or lack of "confidence" or structure and purpose day to day. In many cases yes your right getting a meaningful and realistically structured job would be great, however the jobs available to many would simply not be and could just make things worse.
@ericritchie6783 most MH claims I see are BS.
get a job and you'll feel better, we don't do that, we just throw money at people
@@sparkymmilarky The trouble is if your not really in the position to tell the difference, you might come across a few examples that are laying it on a bit too thick, then that'll just be your disposition towards people's MH issues in general.
It seems like some people have an easier time spinning BS if they just have the knack to do so, like in many areas of society.
So then other people trying to make a genuine cases with the slightest of nuances, who might not be prepared to lay it on thick enough get fobbed off over and over.
The assessment process encourages just laying it on thick to try and convince a random heath professional, following a formulaic administrational consultation working under a private profit firm, who don't necessarily have any experience with the given condition they're assessing...
They only have to had any kind experience in an area of heath such as being a "general nurse" or "physiotherapist" ect which is not necessarily related to what's indicated on the claim...
@@ericritchie6783or corrupt doctors who may know the patients or have bias on cultural or ethnic lines to give them all the green ticks necessary to earn as much as possible. This may come across as something a lunatic with no insider knowledge may say but without giving much away I know how these things operate across the government. Corrupt ‘officials’ (doctors, lawyers, responders etc) there’s a reason it’s not mentioned much as obviously it’s because it ignites the racial divide and it’s sensitive in that regard however you can’t pretend the truth isn’t happening that’s pure conspiracy against the population. 72% of Somalis live in tax payer funded social housing. That’s OVER FOUR TIMES the self identified native British population. Do you think Somalis are 4x more likely to be disabled? if you don’t point these facts out the divide in politics and society will increase.
@@Aaron19987... I wouldn't know about any of that, it's definitely not a doctor that's knows the claimant though when claims are reviewed.
Just a "health practitioner" employed by an independent assessment contractor for profit, employing people with, presumably, targets to complete as many consultation reports as possible over a certain period, perhaps with bonuses for completing extra I'd have thought.
Awesome. Brilliant content. Spot on. Well said.
Thanks, an interesting video.
I have for the last year been waiting for treatment for an ankle issue, cardiac problems and a double hernia and I’ve been struggling to do 3 days a week as a carpenter. My partner is a nurse and was off sick for 9 months before she finally got the all clear and is now back to work. It is NHS back log which is keeping the working age out of work. Funny that many of my retired clients are being dealt with straight away by the NHS. Its almost as though there is an2 tier system in the health service atm.
I'm not paying heavy taxes towards this crap show. As long as I can pay my bills and buy food, I'm alright. I like learning myself using the infinite information and free courses on the net but if no one is going to adequately compensate me, forget it.
9:18 You pretty much gave the answer.
1. You asked “several employers” - but didn’t ask several (also inactive) employees.
2. Just before, you mentioned that “anxiety, mental problems” were the single largest statistically known group.
Now, if (more) working people feel anxious in or out of work, what does that tell us about “the economy”? Could it be a sign that our economical model is flawed, by not expressing metrics for this outcome?
Why is “growth” easily measured as GDP, while “losses” from this increased anxiety are measured in “some degree of nonconforming personal attitudes”? What happens to capital value if those “socioeconomic negatives” were given a metric, and held against GDP? What happens if ecological constraints are given values, and held against economic growth?
I think questions like these are behind the increasing sense of individual precarity, but cannot be easily expressed. Even most economists can’t, as doing so is also precarious for their careers (according to numerous campus supervisors). Sociologist do, though - but “economy” has way more political influence.
In a political economy, after all…?
You did not mention the real problem until the very end "low wages".
The average full time wage of 19k in 2000 would need to be 42k today to have kept up with inflation it is in fact 36k.
So many people in full time work are still on in work benefits. In Fact most of the benefits bill is paid to people who are in work.
I quite strongly hold the belief that a properly functioning healthcare system pays for itself. A healthy population (physically and mentally) is an economically productive population.
The problem we have right now is that things are getting bad enough that we need a chunk of forward investment which won't pay for itself for a number of years, while political parties and less aware voters are only looking 4 years into the future.
Not enough healthcare emphasis in the education curriculum for starters... Healthcare should treat wellness before it treats illness.
People have just got used to relying on free healthcare instead of looking after themselves, their wellbeing and their diet.
@@dan44zzt231 Not necessarily to do with employment if people have or not.
As others have mentioned here, good health education is also very important. Prevention is always better than cure.
Things will still always go wrong for many people at some point in their life though, and we all need to be able to be treated appropriately so we can get back to work and continue being productive. Whether that's something relatively easily prevented like obesity or diabetes, something we often don't realise is a problem until after it hits us like mental health issues, or whether it's something that just comes with age and the wear and tear of certain careers, like knee or back problems or RSI, the chronic pain of which can be debilitating on it's own.
I quite strongly hold the belief that a properly functioning healthcare system doesn’t. It costs a lot. The Attlee government of 1945 claimed back then that having the world’s first single-payer health system would pay for itself because our labour productivity would immediately speed ahead of France, Germany and Italy, boosting tax receipts. That’s not what happened. France, Germany and Italy spend the money we spent on the NHS re-tooling their factories. As a result, they got richer, and could then pay for better health provision from their larger pay packets.
Health technologies become ever more expensive, we have ever more elderly patients, and we wind up with a dysfunctional health bureaucracy which prioritises DEI officers over surgeons, etc.
We are taxed to death (AND AFTER) in the UK
the majority of my incomes goes to tax. Im sick of it. What do i get for this? VIRTUALLY NOTHING. none of our services work.
This country is just done and labour arent going to fix anything.
Taxes are designed to keep the plebs down and to prop the wealthy up.
I am working 15 hours a week part time but isn't enough for the government they want people to work more hours.for years they told us to work 15 or 16 hours now they want people work more hours. but employer doesn't have more hours to give.
The rising levels of sickness do not surprise me. The UK's population has always been chronically unhealthy due largely to choosing to live American-like lifestyles i.e. poor diets and minimising physical activity by driving everywhere (hence why we have some of the most congested roads in Europe). Any attempt by governments in the past to advocate healthier living has always been met with cries of "NANNY STATE". Unfortunately, reality is the ultimate dictator, and actions ==> consequences, with those consequences sometimes coming to pass in the future. Unfortunately we seem to be trying to adopt American-like attitudes in the workplace with exploitation and some of the highest levels of inequality in Europe (one contribution to that illustrated nicely with that net income change per income band graph in the video). We need to stop being so insular and start adopting a combination of personal and collective responsibility.
I think nanny state criticism is valid as the UK managerial class only propose solutions that involve sanctioning and penalising people's behavior. They almost never propose solutions that actually create an environment that makes want people to adopt healthy habits of their own free will.
I have type 1 diabetes, severe liver problems, bone thinning and various nutrient deficiencies causing various problems (partly from celiac). I was able to study for one hour yesterday. I was thrown off esa because I didn't answer a checklist properly.
I have known others with similar intractable problems. People's issue is not that they are not exercising enough. It's that NHS waiting times just let people stay sick, and dwp makes the problems worse.
Generalizing about the US is one of the worst eurotrash habits. Look at US productivity. And wage growth.
But these people are not sick. They just see the (too generous) benefits system as an excuse for not working. Benefits should be capped and time limited for all but the most needy.
@@kevinsyd2012 Say you were to try and do that. Distinguish the genuinely sick from those that are screwing about. It would cost about 10x as much as it currently does. Perhaps more. PLUS, in my area at least, if you are applying for an office job, the recruiter will have about two weeks of back to back interviews for one role. So the jobs aren't necessarily there.
Doctors are not paid lie detectors. People in the health fields generally object to having to do anything like that. So if symptoms are reported to them they believe the individual. To actually understand the data that would be needed, such as blood test results and such, PLUS, the experience and intelligence to fit symptoms into context, the government would have to hire a lot of VERY SKILLED medical professionals, doctors, consultants etc. Out of a group of people that have employment options and doesn't like doing that kind of work. The NHS is low on staff anyway.
The following story is true. I know that the left lie whenever the facts are lacking in their narrative, but I am not left and have not been since 2015. I have lost a lot of "friends" over this. But I used to have a female friend, who had one of the most difficult problems. She confided to me after I got a book in the area that she thought the problem was borderline. But she would go to doctors and they would ignore her. She had been seen by doctors since her 20's and no one could do anything (but she never saw a psychiatrist on the NHS!). So she would NEVER be approved for help under a strict system. But she did one of the only things that a borderline can do to truly prove her symptoms. She killed herself. She jumped off beachy head.
So in order to get around these problems. The government doesn't do anything about those that are scamming the system. I looked up the ESA checklist that I "failed" and it is online on disability charities etc. If I had the energy and intention to get ESA it would just be a matter of following that guidance which people that lie are more likely to do, as a general rule good liars will put as more effort into lying than they would incur telling the truth. So the government if doing the whole thing properly would have to distinguish between skilled liars such as addicts, that are the most skilled liars on the planet for all the practice, and difficult situations like the immediate last one where the cost of failure is high.
Instead what they do is hire workers for probably like £27k and give them a checklist.
Oh wow you made one from my question haha, thanks! That was insightful
For my part I'm 65 but Waspi, working part time from home, would love to go back to employment in teaching but waiting for a vital operation on the NHS. If I got the op now I could be back in September, but the waiting list is 18 months minimum.
Stop Agencies running the UK it’s expensive 😊
“We do want to match people to the right skills and that might take time.”
Yes, but economists want to push round pegs through square holes as quickly as possible if it means muh green GDP line to go up.
“Many sectors like lorry drivers, fruit pickers, carers, medical staff; they say there’s a shortage especially of native-born workers who don’t particularly want to go down that career path for whatever reason be it economic or personal.”
Economic = bad pay; personal = too far away. I hardly doubt anyone would pass up a fruit picking gig if it paid £1m/yr, even if it were 5 hours each way to get there.
"Bringing up children can be beneficial to families"
I’d hope so lol.
"many people who have to stay at home to look after family would actually like to be out working"
No, I think they would rather do anything other than having to look after family, I don’t think most people necessarily want to go back work. If anything, they’d probably want a break!
The reason why there are so many unemployed and not seeking work, if it isn’t because of an illness, retirement, between jobs, or having won the lottery, my guess would be that Britain is now the ‘juice isn’t worth the squeeze’ economy, where most people will work merely to subsist, in an society that’s unwittingly introduces more competition into an already overworked, underpaid, exhausted people and economy.
There’s a lot of employers who want fully qualified, experienced staff but who also want them to be apprentices so they can pay them a fiver an hour. One employer was looking for an `’apprentice retrospective risk assessor” and then there’s the employers who, if they can’t get an apprentice in, will be looking for under 25s because they are cheap.
Answer: Torynomics. (Loads of jobs eg in retail are just part time anyway.)
Offshoring of colossal factories have left lots of British without tertiary eduction unemployed. On top of that, the crumbling and creaking NHS also exerts ruinous impacts on the public health which has tanked Britain's economic output and productivity. As stated explicitly by Keir Starmer previously, Labour will not click on the spending button while taking over the reins which insinuates that the harrowing status quo won't be improved any time soon.
I am 81 and am living in the Central Europe. I worked in China for decades and had a strong opportunity to return to working in London some time ago. Even on a lecturers salary living in London is an unenviable condition full of trying to make ends meet. Central Europe ,because they have their own low value currencies offers much better living conditions for a third of the cost if you have a pension from the UK and/or online work for the UK from Central Europe..
My back has been wrecked by my working life. Chronically understaffed, ever increasing demands on the worker, longer hours, faster pace of work demanded all the time, inability to have a lunch break or even get to the toilet as no staff available to oversee while you take an essential break. Wages no longer cover the most basic essentials like shelter, food and energy especially for the working class. It appears that only those at the top can make progress by making life harder for those in lower positions than them. When you're ill your told to meditate 🧘♀️ as if that would solve your working and financial woes. It's a joke.
I’m 55 and stuck in a well paying job I hate but have no chance of retiring till I get a state pension if I reach that age . My company is full on diversity with no interest in me because I’m straight and white so career progression is nil. Training is non existent but they will spend a fortune on diversity hires and signage , aggressive Hr who target anyone who stands up for themselves driving you out for legitimate issues . Toxic management who treat staff like crap and seem to enjoy it and circle the wagons around each other . At 55 it’s too late to change career and having a contract does give me some safety as they cannot sack me or treat me like they do to an increasing number of agency staff . If I leave I would be lucky to find work at my age and would have no chance of getting a contract anywhere . Sickness is frowned upon and punished with a three strikes and your out rule . Even having unite as an embedded union just means them caving every time there is a new pay deal they give up some terms and conditions to keep in with management and I was even threatened by my union to shut up or else suffer consequences so I changed my union and at least they are on my side. As for the young white males they see no future and know they will be living under their parents roofs with no chance of their own homes , raising a family and diminishing returns on their labour with no career progression allowed. I’m trapped and to subsidise my family I must carry on working in a job I hate , where I’m not wanted , not appreciated and treated poorly but anyone seeing me doing what I do is not likely to bother starting on that treadmill to hell .
I retired 3 months ago at the age of 55. I am now what you would class as economically inactive. I spend my day doing what I want and enjoy myself and I will let younger people pay off all the debts. I worked for 39 years in a boring job in the same company but thank goodness I got the final salary pension. When I go out into the world I just smirk and laugh all the drones working away while I get final salary money every month paid into my account. 😁😁😁😁😁😁😁
In our town we have a local jobs listing on our local town internet site. I went through it the other day. Every single job was via an agency, so every single job was such that your wages get cut by the agency. The agent can take 50% of your earnings. The problem is what you get for that 50% is negative in value, because it is all about protectionism. Why can't these firms just advertise directly? I skip all agency ads myself. I will only sign a contract with the firm who wants the work doing. With agencies you introduce a level of indirection.
Your graph at 1:00 looks relatively flat knowing the pop increased like 20% between 1970 and 2020. Just a side-note 🙂
The culture is get by on as little staff as possible, putting more strain on the staff that are still working, eventually causing burnout and sickness. I purposely work as little as possible whilst raising my children so I don't have that happen.
I'm lucky that I bought my house about 14 yrs ago so by the time kids came, I was well into paying my mortgage down and didn't get caught up in paying over the odds. I do feel sorry for the ones starting out.
I have people tell me that 5hey have given up their jobs as they were going to lose benefits, this is crazy, job seekers should be for 3 months only while you find a job or can be allocated one
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Thankyou once again for a well informed and researched video, always nice to hear the truth behind the the numbers rather than political rhetoric we've been given over the last few weeks.
Employer's drive for 💰 profits (dividends) with the government creaming off (taxing) incentifies the relatively low wage culture.
This is boosted by second parents [now] having to work coupled by a sources of overseas labour accepting in their experience relatively high wages 🤔
Many can't get the medical help they need to go back to work and companies get away with murder cherry picking
Who they like and if you're face fits and the pay for more jobs are appalling as well as the conditions
Ive noticed a massive change in attitudes in the work environment (at all levels) and I even think it feeds into the early retirement phenomenon too
The UK has the poorest management and leadership culture I have ever experienced! If you the UK continues to go like this, the country will be in huge trouble by the end of the decade.
My son has severe skin allegies so keeping a job is hard for him. He under performs then he leaves job one and gets into another. But it is a struggle because of his health. He will soon start another but his health is really bad and that affects him mentally.
I am out of work due to my health but have not got into benefits.
As I have let my house out and moved in with my son to save money. I feel tired all the time and don't have the energy to do much, started with physical problems with bad back and knee and now I suffer memory loss. NHS giving poor serviced so we cannot get proper help from Drs. We are both on waiting list for test and not getting the problems sorted, that is holding us back from going back to work and stay in work.
Free gym membership would help people like us as I go swimming once a week, I cannot afford more sessions. My son would benefit from sauna to help his skin but he cannot afford it
There are many people out there willing and able to work. But you have to have experience every time. Companies don't want to train people. Definitely revolving door situations.
You also need to look at the disability rates in the Travellers, Bangladeshi and Pakistanis especially. It is a combination of inbreeding and fraud. How else to have rates over 1/3?
And then their women don't participate in the labour market.
There are millions now and it counts. Every single below average person who comes here drags us down, endless people coming here to earn below median income.
Mass Immigration has caused wage and productivity stagnation whilst exacerbating the housing EMERGENCY and driving overcrowding and lowering housing standards. This is because the Law of Supply and Demand is valid for housing and labour supply too.
Mass Immigration is not sustainable in any way not economically, culturally, socially or environmentally.
You need to address this reality.
Your statistics aren't right. Bangladeshi's have 10% disabled rate at 16-49 vs 6% for 'other white'. Indians and Chinese are both below 6%. Much higher rates for gypsies/irish travellers - though they aren't 'immigrants', are they?
www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/healthandsocialcare/disability/articles/protectedcharacteristicsbydisabilitystatusenglandandwalescensus2021/2023-05-17
I see it a lot where I am, older people from Muslim countries, the Carribbean, Africa, etc who don't speak or barely speak English so clearly haven't been here long enough to integrate with our society or work and contribute, but maybe have been brought over by younger relatives to use our healthcare and elderly care. Are these younger relatives working enough to make the equivalent contribution of two elderly people's lifetimes? or are they taking from what the rest of us, natives as well as long term immigrants, have built up through our working and taxable lives. On top of that you have irresponsible inbreeding bringing in a greater proportion of disabled children which could be avoided and take even more resources from childcare as well as creating a tragic life for the kids themselves.
I'm not against immigration but it should be reserved for those people who value our culture and lifestyle and want to contribute towards it while integrating into the country.
Wages are too low and the tax system disincentivises you from trying to earn more. Add on aggressive inflation and the reality is that work isnt lucrative. Also a lot of the jobs are mind numbing and manual only in place because businesses don't invest in better infrastructure and system. labour is so cheap just through people at the problem. After covid people began to value non monetary things, time with family, general well being, health, travel etc.....
Yesss, exactly. The more you earn the more tax you'll be paying. This doesn't affect the wealthy though, they have their loopholes.
The reason is computers have been used to make people in warehouse and distribution ( 20% of the workforce ) more efficient ( like robots ) . They are simply being worked into physical and mental in health.
We are at a position were robots are just about to take over their jobs but right on the cusp of this a very unlikely generation are being expected to work like robots under the control of computers.
I earn £38k a year, 27 years old with a promise of going up to £40k by the end of the year. I earn about 4k more then average wage in my area.
On this salary, I live at home so I can avoid paying rent(if I rent I'd never be able to buy a house on my home) and I manage to save around 1000-1500k a month that I have invest fairly well(I'm up 50% this year!). Despite being in the top 10% of 27 year olds, and probably top 1-2% outside of London I doubt I'll even be able to afford a middle class lifestyle.
Realistically I will need to make £60-80 grand a year to afford kids(assuming public education), outside of London, and familial support. I'd prefer it if my partner didn't have to work because that would cut childcare costs(and reduce the burden of chores for me).
That is assuming Labour doesn't increase taxes on the "rich". I'm also fully aware that I'm one of the "lucky" ones.
Its all due to mass immigration which pushes growth which pushes land and property prices exponentially whilst lowering wages. In the 1950s if you lived in a slum hard work could get you out of that and you had a future. Now you have thousands chasing every available job and a place to live. Mass immigration impoverishes the majority and for some working is simply no longer worth the effort. In the next 3 years 1.6 billion jobs will be lost due to Ai its already hitting Banking Warehousing Administration and Retail Shopping. On top of that you have HR departments on a youth cult trip which sees employees reaching 50 and are thrown out to save paying them a pension. When all this impacts poor people they have no hope and no chance so they hit the sick and who can blame them.
There is a ticking time bomb of those that have taken their pension at 55, in some cases cashing in a defined benefit pension. A significant proportion of these people are spending at an unsustainable rate.
I believe in UBI. replace all welfare with UBI, not means tested. If you work, you get ubi and your salary.
There is too much incentive to NOT work.
I think marriage should aloow for 25k personal allowance for a single wage earner
Poor management has been a UK cultural problem since the 1960s & this has an impact on sickness rates, retention rates, & productivity. Local Govts are no longer major employers & one of the primary drivers for decline in the high street retail sector. Likewise, the skill shortages in the NHS means longer working hours, less breaks & higher levels of stress taking into account more bureaucracy & more managers. Nurses prefer to work nights & weekends as a consequence of poor management. 50% of Managers are unqualified, & those who are qualified don't seem to be strategic thinkers or supervised appropriately. Managers have little integrity & rarely know how to motivate, coach & develop teams. A lack of opportunities is down to poor strategic decision-making by Govts & employers. Benefit system including pensions is one of the worst in Europe. People have had to become more frugal with what they have because of poor policy decisions. Cuts in benefits & wage stagnation has a ripple effect on local economies, often leading to stagnation & decline of specific industries, eg, retail, hospitality. There are very few good employers & the UK economy is highly dependent on sub-contractors & the self-employed that drives higher prices, eg, house building. Higher unemployment & economic inactivity (underestimates volunteers) is down to poor strategy by govts & employers, eg, resource planning, managers performance, & lack of investment in existing employees & new employees, eg, apprenticeships, to ensure optimum productivity & efficiency. The number of successful tribunal cases has tripled, particularly for those over 50 who may have been victimised in one way or another by incompetent underqualified managers. Higher prevalence of medical conditions means more people will retire earlier to guarantee at least 5 years of a good quality of life. This will have a wide ranging impact on employers to deliver what employees & customers want. For example, 20% of UK farmers will retire by 2027. Govts fail to create the right conditions to improve outcomes for anyone. When Govts fail at everything, they blame the unemployed, the disabled, the immigrants. What's the point of regulations, policies & guidance if Govts & employers can just ignore them, eg, health & safety?
8 million people living with benefits..is not affordable!..at all!,but the half of them or more are working ilegaly..when i was living and working in uk for 2 years my Sister,s partner and her family living with benefits and working both and their old son ilegaly..they have a BMW X5..my question is..why the council cannot check this!!
No profit in working, time bills are paid thats if you can , theres nothing left. So why bother.
Ahem…….can you + 1 that intentionally unemployed figure….Taxed to oblivion
To pay for the work shy if they worked then taxes would not need to be so high.
@@terryj50 V A T used to be 8% + lower stealth Tax…..just sayin
@@kim007250 and why did it go to 20%
@@kim007250 again all you lazy people who won’t work and you still have to pay 20% but your just using other people’s money who are taxed 45% because you won’t work.
VAT was introduced to defeat Napoleon. Last time i checked, he died over 100 years ago so why are we still paying 20% of our wages on VAT? @@terryj50
Immigration has helped big industries to keep wages down, Immigrants do not know the wages are way too low and make life difficult for all.
If the government did something about it, none of this would have happened. But hey, no one likes to talk about legal bribery aka lobbying
I am a skilled labourer and landscaper done it for 30 years as soon as they hear my date of birth. We will call you back you can hear them scrunching up the note.
Lots of work/jobs out there but hard to find stuff that goes anywhere.
I've done my fair share of graft, delivering and tedious retail. There's more in me than lifting things up and putting them down 😂
You could use that poster now and just replace the words unemployment office with NHS waiting list.
Enact a law s.t. the highest paid person (probably CEO) should earn (including bonuses) at most x2 times the average employee salary. Problem solved.
You are about to witness the shortest Honeymoon in History. It won't take long for people to realise immigration has exploded and their taxes have gone up to pay for them. Labour will be a disaster as they always have been in the past
Every political party is a disaster, especially if they remain in for a long time. They've created and maintain a system that incentivises the worst of them.
The electorate wants open borders, that’s what’s been consistently voted for over the past 60 years. Throughout all the different flavours of government-or so the electorate believe-policy to have wider and more open borders with redder and more rolled out carpets has only ever gone up.
Just you watch tomorrow; one of the “more immigrants, please!” parties will get elected, but the electorate will bemoan seeing more immigrants. It’s a conundrum.
@@Carl-hs420a The 2010, 2015 and 2017 Conservative Manifestos ALL promised to reduce net immigration to "tens of thousands" (i.e. the level it was when John Major was PM, before Tony Blair abruptly quintupled it). By the 2019 Manifesto, they'd given up saying "tens of thousands", but did say they'd reduce it "substantially". They wound up increasing it to 1.2 million gross in a single year in 2023.
There are various reasons why they have failed. The OBR is filled with immigration accelerationists, who threaten governments they'll make hostile dire forecasts for the UK economy if they implement the will of the voters. The government's own legal advice is that the combination of the ECHR, the Blair Supreme Court and judicial activism makes it impossible to control the UK's borders. So they don't even try to.
Why would more Immigrations lead to more tax whats the link? With the exception of refuges since Brexit all immigrates need a visa so have a job or are students paying fees.
Are you trying to say that immigrates use more Government services then local people because all the evidence shows the opposite, they are on average younger so dont use the same amount of medical services and their education/ training has already been paid by there home country.
@@jimpaddy79 1) In 2023, 102,000 foreign students arriving in the UK brought dependents with them. Overwhelmingly, such students came from Nigeria and India. Almost zero students from the USA and China brought any dependents with them.
2) In 2023 around 20% of people issued visas to come and work in the NHS and the care sector never showed up for work, even though they entered the UK.
3) In London, around 47% of social housing (what used to be called council housing) is occupied by a household in which the head of the household was born outside the UK.
4) In Germany 45% of those receiving unemployment benefits are not German citizens. In Austria 60% of recipients have a “migrant background”.
5) A study by the Danish Finance Ministry found that non-Western immigrants are the people most likely to be lifelong recipients of public finances. A Dutch study by Jan H. van de Beek at the University of Amsterdam found that the Dutch government spent around €17 billion per year on migrant support. If the UK undertook a similar study, I imagine it would find similar results.
What group do full-time parents (housewife/househusband) fit into?
Usually they're included in Carers as they're caring for children.
Great video and very interesting. Thank you. One thing in unemployment you did not mention that for capitalism to work we need a certin level of jobless to make sure that they would not drive up inflation due to shortage of labour. Flakiness may also may be due to too much going on rent, food and energy costs and one will tend to think what the heck, why bother I am just filling my landlords pockets. Also have you a video of the effect of too much money flowing to the rich and superich. Would a wealth tax help? Cost of family also far beyond man people.
Observational evidence only but where I live there are loads of stay at home mums, but when their kids are older they don't go back to work, they and the family are financially used to staying at home and not having that additional income so they never go back to work.
Go to any town in the country and there are no men of working age about (unless they are working) its all retired and stay at home mums marching the streets.
I got ill after having the vaccine and have had heart and autoimmune problems. They make me feel like I'm the problem with the country even though I've worked full time since i was 17 and now I'm 40. I think no one is talking about the fact it went up after the vaccine I was forced to have or lose my job. I had it got ill and lost my job anyway. Now waiting to be forced off disability and forced back to work or not be able to pay my bills or feed my kids.
the Hello Fresh Ad......this in itself deserves analysis
Treat workers with respect many in the private sector especially agency workers are not.
Easy way to get people working, pay them enough money so they can live instead of a subsistence existence.
No public buses and trains to get to work.
Where did they all go?
A lot of employers insist on you having a car, even if they're just down the road and you can just walk there, as they'd like to be assured that a person can turn up at all times of the day or night, anywhere they are, not just restricted to more limited public transport places and times.
On the other hand, car ownership is almost as expensive as paying the rent, so you need so much more work just to pay for your own transport.
Only for all the cars to be scared off the road in wintertime by snowflakes falling, while you can still walk to work just fine.
Wages have not increased in relation to cost of living so in effect same job now to 20:years ago means much worse quality of life !!!!!
Time to cross the pond 😢
The same thing is happening in the United States since the late '70s when you drastically increased welfare programs especially disability. I live in a very poor area of Northern New York when the factories left in the '70s because unions in labor cost got too high The vast majority of these people just went all the sudden on disability everyone has a bad back and all of them work under the table part-time make more money doing this and pay wayyyy less tax. Literally all of my neighbors fall into this category there's seven of them within 1 mile of my house most of them are in there '50s by now perfectly able to work It just don't want to. You know you can always work for yourself you don't need to work any toxic work environment or get paid too little by the man for all you guys that think it's so easy to create a great job that pays well with great work-life balance go start a business and see how easy it is.
Its not attractive to work with low wages and long hours. We have some of the longest working hours and lowest wages in Europe. The (capitalist) system simply hasn't worked for the huge majority.
But hey, we can always blame immigrants. As the politicians would like us to do.
Very insightful video. You are talented enough to appear in any advertisement on a British web series. Hello Fresh are lucky to have you!
Good commentary but what arethe solutions
Stop pushing growth with mass immigration. Start building stuff that people want and need. Train people to do the jobs.
Don’t think ppl wanted to go back to work after the pandemic
Employers do not reply back to people….
Especially if you don't have high qualifications.
I earn 148,000 as a NHS doctor. 48,000 into my SIPp. No child care fund’s etc just not saving enough. Mortgage is 4,000
Struggling. 5 ppl from my department have left for Dubai and USA. I am now thinking the same 😢
our population is 70 million and rising.... 10 million = 1/7th
You forgot to mention the black market its always been a big employer where i live the north east the rewards are massive if you can mentally tolerate the occupational hazards.