Modern Horizons 3 Spoilers | Eldrazi Titans Return, Flares, Flipwalkers, Six, Eladamri and More MTG!
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- Today we officially kick off MTG Modern Horizons 3 spoilers with one of the biggest preview days of all time! Eldrazi are back, the Flare cycle is complete and so much more! Let's discuss!
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0:00 Start
1:17 Flipwalkers
1:27 Tamiyo, Inquisitive Student
4:28 Sorin of House Markov
7:39 Ral, Monsoon Mage
10:10 Grist, Voracious Larva
13:46 Eldrazi Titans
14:05 Ulamog, the Defiler
18:15 Kozilek, the Broken Reality
21:54 Eladamri, Korvecdal
25:43 Shadow of the Second Sun
28:18 Arna Kennerud, Skycaptain
31:44 Flares
32:24 Flare of Duplication
34:22 Flare of Fortitude
36:28 Flare of Malice
38:05 Six
41:14 Genku, Future Shaper
44:17 Pearl-Ear, Imperial Advisor
47:08 Thief of Existence
48:53 Volatile Stormdrake
53:22 Wheel of Potential
56:30 White Orchid Phantom
1:00:13 Powerbalance
1:03:16 Detective's Phoenix
1:05:09 Special Guests
1:07:00 Retro Reprints
1:07:24 Breya
1:08:03 Kaalia
1:09:08 Medallions
1:10:02 Deserted Temple
1:11:08 K'rrik
1:13:18 Frogmyr Enforcer
1:13:56 Grim Servant
1:14:35 Witch Enchanter
1:15:49 Brainsurge
1:16:21 Glimpse the Impossible
1:17:44 Thraben Charm
1:18:28 Commons and Uncommons - Hry
A note regarding Kozilek, what wasnt touched on the review is that he manifests from the hand (as opposed to the library) and it's forced if you choose a player. This means you can basically Mind Rot your opponent, if they have 2 or less cards in their hand you can force them to become empty handed before he hits the battlefield since the cast trigger will resolve first. And it also means you can reliably draw 4 as long as both players have 2 or more cards in their hands. I think he has been undervalued in every review I've seen so far, I'm not sure if he's powerful enough to replace cards in the current version of Tron, but he's in no way as bad as people make him out to be.
Yes! I was yelling at the screen saying "it's also a mind rot!!" That and, well, tidings as the OG lol
Yeah but he also gives them at worst two 2/2s. That might not be wroth two cards.
Yeah, kozi is 100% going to be the most played of the new titans. New emrakul requires a shell that can madness it reliably. New Ula doesnt beats old Ula. New kozi makes 19 power, draws up four cards, can force your opponent go down two cards, and also pumps your other eldrazis for shits and giggles. For me its the stronger of the cycle.
I think Seth addressed this the same way I did with my group: Kozilek is powerful, no doubt, but it doesn't feel very... Kozilek-y. The flavour of an eldritch abomination that warps reality should be something more than just "Big bodies go smash". Maybe if it did something weird like if the two players manifesting cards manifest them on the other player's side of the board or something, that'd be more flavourful. It's not weak, just disappointing for an eldrazi titan that it's so... basic.
He did tho, he said it was good against control decks because they will probably manifest counterspells or whatnot, but not against creature decks because they get to transform them.
He said the thing! “ Good in soul sisters “
If you use the new Elzdrazi land to cast Ulamog, then whatever you’ve exiled with it will be the baseline for counters which could make it huge.
Seth that’s not how Second Sun works. Beginning phase is AFTER second main
Just came down to see if this had already been commented
I love that sphinx of the second sun is one of the most misread cards, and instead of writing it in a way that is actually understandable, they just did the same mess of a text again.
He also forgot that it gives pseudo vigiliance to creatures unlike the green enchantment
@@ilikepeople1795 YOU need to read it. It triggers at the beginning of post-combat main, but ends with “after this phase”. It gives a beginning phase after post-combat main. It’s worded the same as Sphinx, which also confuses people with this same wording.
@@zuterwer1835 there really isn’t a better way to word this kind of effect. The best way would be to “at the beginning of your postcombat main phase, after this phase, you get an additional beginning phase”
If you choose to make opponent manifest with Kozilek, they MUST manifest. Kinda makes opp discard
Justine Jones did the Kaleidoscope Killers secrets lair with Ur Dragon and Sliver Overlord. She also did the Shivan Dragon for 30th anniversary countdown calendar along with a bunch of the line art cards from AFR and Baldur's Gate and the Beadle & Grim packs. So that Beholder on the AFR collector's box is her.
Her art is typically either black and white or leverages some funky colors. This is one of the first times I've seen something like a real life palette from her.
Extra fun note. Those Midnight Hunt alternate frames are also her art.
As always thanks seth for taking the time to talk about each meaningful card during these spoiler seasons!
Might I also add that Six fixes one of the best counters to Wrenn and Six: Your opponent killing Wrenn and Six. With a single land in your graveyard or hand, Wrenn and Six is 2 mana regenerate. +1 Wrenn to get back the land and retrace it after the stack resolves if it dies.
yep, then W6 can bring back saga, jund stuff
Shadow of the second sun gives you the beginning phase AFTER your postcombat main phase. It's the exact same wording as Sphinx of the Second Sun.
You go from combat to your postcombat main, then Second Sun triggers and gives you a beginning phase after this phase (this phase being the postcombat phase you're currently in). Once you leave your postcombat phase, you get the newly added beginning phase, and then go immediately to your end step.
People keep forgetting that wording of “after this phase” with these effects.
@@bronythekight7369 It is obtuse wording for no good reason. just write "After your second main phase you get a beginning phase." Why is it that complicated??
@@zuterwer1835 The thing is that, technically, that's not the same. If it said "After your postcombat main phase, you get a new beginning phase", you could simply get rid of that card at any point before the end of the postcombat main phase.
However, botth Sphinx and Shadow of the Second Sun trigger at the beginning of your postcombat main phase. Which means that, once you get there, the opponent cannot stop you from getting your beginning phase unless they counter the trigger itself.
Basically, this forces the opponent's hand before the actual postcombat phase. Otherwise, the opponent could simply wait and see if you're doing anything else that may be relevant, and then interact with your "whatever" of the Second Sun.
Quite frankly, it's not that relevant... But it's something that can make the difference in some situations.
Thank you for marking the timelines in the video so I can skip to the different cards you talk about. It helps me take in the cards you review on my own time.
*Thanks for the content!*
Seth, Ulamog counts itself with it's "enters the battlefield" since the value is decided while it is still coming down. So Living End, Indomitable Creativity and Dubious Challenge work to make it a 17/17 Annihilator 10
Pre-emptive edit: This works because Ulamog's ETB is a replacement effect rather than the usual trigger of "When ~ enters the battlefield, [...]". (614.12: Some replacement effects modify how a permanent enters the battlefield. (See rules 614.1c-d.) [...] To determine which replacement effects apply and how they apply, check the characteristics of the permanent as it would exist on the battlefield, taking into account replacement effects that have already modified how it enters the battlefield (see rule 616.1), continuous effects from the permanent's own static abilities that would apply to it once it's on the battlefield, and continuous effects that already exist and would apply to the permanent.)
Ok, so hear me out... Second turn volatile storm drake, exchange and get 4 energy, turn 3 wheel of potential, 7 energy, exile your hand and cast Ulamog for free as a 17/17
The stack is its own separate zone, not "in exile" in any way
@@mathkittie6472 No, that's why they specified other cards that have it enter from exile like Living End and Indomitable Creativity
Doesn't change the fact it doesn't do anything when entering except milling cards, I don't think it's that playable, and your effect would require another layer to even get there
@@lasterman94100 Exiles cards when casting. And it has a great Ward. Kozilek may be better, with its draw 4 and disruption, but Ula does look sweet!
Now im just imaging sorin just actually cooking up food and asking myself “why wotc, why did you let him cook?!”
if you smeeeelllll-!!!
Wait, if he cooks, does he not need blood?
@@TheKillerman3333he's cooking blood tokens 😂
Justine Jones did the kaleidoscope killers secret lair, so you hit the nail on the head with your “it looks like a secret lair” comment!
The other fun thing about Tamio is that it has evasion, so I feel like it works well with ninjas.
Tamiyo seems like a decent sideboard check to aggro in formats with Brainstorm and/or Faithless Looting, the plus 2 shrinks _all_ creatures attacking you for a turn and the Ult is threatening enough that the aggro decks would kinda be forced to commit resources away from killing you.
Is Seth misunderstanding Wheel of Potential's energy cost, or am *I* missing something? You're only drawing up to 3 cards right? Barring an energy deck.
Ok, I had my doubts, but “Eladrami” instead of “Eladamri” does it. Seth’s mispronunciations are on purpose, to drive interaction like this comment of mine. Look, it worked!
I love seeing comments like these, because even though I know it's not the case; it leads me to believe that local dialects, speech impediments, and reading impediments like Dyslexia are all wrong and must be fixed.
Like how people say fustrated instead of frustrated.
Ain't no one's linguistic capacity being destroyed by mispronounced words, purposeful or otherwise.
so much to digest! Thank goodness for "it works in Soul Sisters". I am very curious about the reprints on Arena for sure.
In regards of Ulamog 16:00 he checks all cards in exile. It doesn't need to be from a opponent. So, if you use a Chrome Mox to exile a thing with high mana value, you can use that to give Ulamog more counters.
Somehow exile Draco and laugh ur ass off as ur opponent stares down a 20+ power ulamog 😂
Yessss! Hour long spoiler!
Powerbalance could be funny in a sort of lantern control archetype.
I also want to note that based on the card image gallery powerbalance is confirmed to be the promo in the bundles.
Important to note about Shadow of the second sun- the additional beginning phase happens AFTER a postcombat main phase. The first half of the wording is indicating when the second half triggers; "there is an additional beginning phase after this phase.
Also, with the niche interaction with World at War- Shadow would give you a third beginning phase after the additional main phase granted by World at War, as any main phase after the first round of combat is considered a postcombat main phase.
Tamiyo seems pretty dang good even without Brainstorm. It goes off with Faithless Looting on your turn, too. It's going to be relatively easy to sneak that in on t2, leaving OP with a 4 loyalty planeswalker that shrinks attackers. Seems pretty good.
My friend and I are looking at in artifact decks too :) one mana legend is good with mox amber
Faithless looting's been banned for years.
@@MakeVarahHappen In Modern, yes, but not every format. I wasn't clear. You could play Looting in Historic, but not Brainstorm, for example.
@@jkdeadite Ah, yeah that makes sense.
That's the thing. Tamiyo is designed with cards like Brainstorm and Faithless Looting, cards that we don't have in Modern but we have in Legacy and Timeless. So, unless they give us efficient Burst Draw cards (cards that allow us to draw a lot of cards), Tamiyo will be basically the only Flip-walker that will be good outside of Modern but not in it
Without dismissing all the negative things to say about this set: Baby flip walkers are cool. Just such a fun design space.
there is no negative thing to say about the set. It has interesting cards that open the game in modern, as well as interesting commander cards.
@@user-tc9fn9ux2uthe only negative thing is how high the price is. If the price wasn't so high this would be an almost ideal set.
@@cj-c3135 I'm nervous about the power creep that comes along with every Modern Horizons set (as evidenced by the apparent mandate to include free spells in every set), but the price point is easily the biggest issue. If the set were cheaper, I'd probably be higher on the whole thing. Because flip walkers! They're cool!
@@user-tc9fn9ux2uI have a negative thing to say about this set: modern sets should have cards for modern, not commander cards
@@ICantThinkOfAFunnyHandle not necessarily, that had been the main critique for years for all MH sets that came out. And it is not really true--- I mean, Modern Horizons had always commander cards as all sets, almost everything is interesting for commander. The only thing really that stands out are the commander decks, but the main set is still made for modern. I think the main twist for MH3 is the question "What would happen if we would bring commander all-star cards into modern?". I think it is an insteresting point. Also remember that the the MH sets do not try to push already healthy archetypes, but expand the meta to open modern more.
Thank you Seth for popping the bloons
On Seth's note about blink decks. I've actually made my blink deck token focused, with most of my big ETBS making big tokens like Trostani Summoner instead of the classics "blow everyone's stuff and draw cards". Turns out it becomes a blink deck people actually enjoy playing against and if you throw in a janky overrun like Titanic Ultimatum it gets the job done :)
Tbh One Grist thing about having a naturalize attached is it feels like it might stabilize the you really well against graveyard hate, at least in theory.
26:00 The additional beginning phase is after the postcombat main phase so you don't get the land untap for your second main.
i think kozilek is actually pretty strong, forcing your opponent to manifest is reasonable close to discard, this kinda gives you a +4 on cards and a massive board
A note on Eladamri that Seth didnt realize, its really good in Yawgmoth because its essentially a cheaper Elven Chorus that can be Chorded for and also that last ability can be put under Cauldron.
Eladrami*
@@MasterMetallica1 Read the card please, Seth pronounces it like that but it's not how it's spelled.
@@JulioDRai thatwasthejoke.jpg
Note for shadow of the second sun: you don't untap during your postcombat main phase. You untap after, just before you're end step
Shadow of the Second Sun looks like it would work in a Curse deck, as you can enchant an opponent if you wish. Modified also refers to Auras in addition to Equipment and counters.
Modern coffers sometimes plays torment of hailfire out of the wishboard. It would also be fun to copy a magma opus
White Orchid Phantom triggers on ETB, too, so you get to flicker your land destruction, hehe.
I like that grim servant can tutor up Nykthos even on its own. This can be good if you never drew it, if your opponent answered your first, or if you just want legend yourself for a second activation in one turn. I now its kind of obvious a tutor can tutor but with mana value restrictions its sometimes easy to blank and forget lands may still be an option.
The new land Ugin's Labyrinth exiles a colorless card mana value 7 or greater from your hand, so in an eldrazi heavy deck new ulamog could have like annihilator 10 if you have another eldrazi exiled with it
Looking at Ulamog, I can think of a couple fun things including Doc Aurlock + Fblthp. And then there's Ugin's Labrynth since the card you exile will count for that ability.
Genku seems like a cool commander for Tomer's Moonfolk Deck. It works really well with OG Moonfolks from Kamigawa.
new newlamog looks like a great extra turn deck finisher, with how many extra turn spells cost a lot and exile themselves
Gonna make a deck around that sorin in commander, lurrus companion eggs. Sounds really fun and really strong
Genku is Tamiyo’s husband and the tokens are their adopted children
Damn, I never knew that. It is kind of sad to think of how Tamiyo went... I'm so conflicted because Tezzeret is my favorite MTG character but he directly led to what happened to her.
Speaking of Tezzeret, man, I wished he was in the cycle of baby flip walkers. Oh well, maybe next time.
Don't forget that the new Ugin land let's you exile cards from you hand. Seems good for Newlamog pt.2.
Justine Jones is an awesome artist. She did a lot of the showcase stuff for AFR/Baldur's Gate and she did some stuff for the Borderless Poster-style cards in the Special Edition LOTR set. She also did the Kaleidoscope Killers Secret Lair, which had Reaper King, Ur Dragon, and Sliver Overlord.
lol, they put a may on wheel of potential because you could pay 0. Whoops, no one has cards in hand, haha.
Im honestly just excited for the modal land cards and volatile stormdrake for my Zedruu deck.
White Orchid Phantom is the same as the Wight of the Reliquary. It is Knight of the White Orchid, now dead and as a hatebear :D
Hey Seth, is Pearl Ear- Imperial Advisor legal in pioneer? If so, would Pearl Ear boost orzhov boggles or would it be a minimal upgrade?
Ulamog combos with the new land that taps for 2 if you exile a big boy from your hand
Shadow of the second sun doesnt give the extra steps up until you have finished the second main phase (and before the end step) so you cant use the mana for sorcery stuff and creatures
I love the design of if you storm off spells, Ral becomes beastly
I LOVE thos Flip-Planeswalkers
Ulamog, the Defiler is going into my Xander mill exile deck! 🙌🏻💯🤯🤯🤯
Justine Jones did the poster art for the one ring and Sauron, she also did the secret lair sliver overlord and ur dragon
Flare of duplication might be very funny sideboard tech in MonoRed timeless versus reanimated decks.
As with the sphinx, you didn't understand how the shadow of the second sun works: basically you get the trigger ability at the beginning of your post combat main, but the beginning phase will be after that, so basically just before the end phase. So you cannot use the mana in your main phase
I mean grim servant can always at minimum search up a land as well
Could use it in mono black devotion/coffers as a tutor for nyxthos or coffers. Or the channel lands if you need them for whatever reason
With the token / blink moonfolk if you play things like the token doubler or tripler form mother of machines or all will be one. Make a bunch of tokens when you blink or fetch. Also imagine playing power balance and counter balance together,
Seth, a cool against the odds deck might be Flare of Fortitude with Ad Naus and/or Command the Dreadhorde
Evolution Witness is a great commander card. Wurmcoil Larva was made extremely safe in its cost and power/toughness breakdown but I love it for casual concepts like recursion and artifact reanimator. Izzet Generatorium is super cute and part of me wants to see a tier 2 or 3 energy deck in modern but I'll admit I fear what we once had in standard coming back with a vengeance.
You can flip Tamiyo on turn one in Timeless. Tamiyo, Mox Amber, Brainstorm.
Arna can make blood forged battle axe VERY explosive, and uses many of the same synergies
Can't wait to open my Commander Horizon bundle
I like that ulamog doesnt say in opponents exile so that the new sol land counts toward the biggest thing in exile
I think flare of duplication might be good in a goblin deck, as a way to double up your goblin grenades.
Tamiyo flips easily in modern too. All you need is to attack with it once and play a bauble. Bauble sac on their turn+clue sac+ card per turn.
So uhh... When exactly did Seth talk about Flare of Cultivation? 🤔 I can't find it anywhere
Does Izzet Generatorium indicate there will be cards that hate on opponents energy counters?
Powerbalance was made for my Keranos Lantern control commander deck. This set seems more like edh horizens more than modern 😂
One big downside to flair of malice is that it will hit a 1/2 Elvish Reclaimer over a 20/20 Marit Lage
I just realized Brainsurge isn't just a brainstorm at a safer cost, it's a divination cost instant that draws twice as much as divination, then you set back two. This might actually see modern play, and has got to find a home in any blue moon or merfolk moon deck.
I like to think of Kozilek as being a mind rot draw 4. Unless your opponent manifests creatures and even if they do they miss out on any etb effects
I think justine jones did the dnd monster manual arts, as well as the 5c secret lair with reaper king, sliver hivelord, ur-dragon etc.
Kozilek is kinda dope as your commander. I could see a rock deck that transforms into creatures.
Their of existence is a cast ability so if it never enters the battlefield you don't get its downside. Wonder if there is anything to do with that other than hoping your opponent misreads it and tries to counter it which would just be upside for you.
54:25 It's not that you'd combo it with draw punish, without the may it would be 3 mana pay 0 energy make your opponent exile their hand. Imagine mono red with that.
Thief of existence is great for answering Karn/ bridge in E-tron.
The G-Tron matchup, they always managed to top deck a karn into bridge the turn before you kill them :L
I love spoiler season. It's like getting an extra goldfish podcast every few days
I wonder if Flare of Duplication might be decent in something like 8 or 12 whack goblin decks? It could kind of double as more Goblin Grenades, or Lightning Bolts, as well as providing some protection from counterspells. I mean, imagine if you had 2 goblins on the field and Flare of Duplication and Goblin Grenade in your hand. You could possibly do 10 damage for 1 mana.
Wow that art on Sorin! ❤❤❤
Bestow phoenix could be good in some Hollow One style strategy where you use goblin lore and Burning Inquiry lots of stuff to escape it.
Wouldn’t you only need to draw 2 additional cards since tamiyo only specifies 3 in a turn? So like chart a course?
Why are the creature planeswalker's backsides two colors?
As a massive enjoyer of my mono green Treefolk deck I CANNOT WAIT for Six
The Powerbalance Emrakul hypothetical won’t work like you want it to, because your opponent puts Emrakul on the stack, extra turn trigger above it, and THEN Powerbalance triggers. So you cast your Emrakul and queue up an extra turn, but then your opponent’s extra turn trigger hasn’t resolved yet, so they cut you in line to take theirs first
Richard has a new bird commander in Arna lol he's gonna make a ton of dowsing dagger tokens lol
I know I’m late to the party but a couple thoughts: Powerbalance works well with Murktide deck because of DRC triggers and still has support with casting Instants like Consider to manipulate the top of your deck.
Also, with Flare of Duplication, I have a Murktide/Electrobalance hybrid deck….can someone say four 4/4 Rhinos for two mana turn two if you have a DRC or Ragavan out turn one? I know you need a lot of pieces but Sheeeshhh 🔥
Someone should make a super cut of all the times Seth has ever said “good in souls sisters”
Wait a minute, if Six is Green, and Wrenn and Seven is Green, and Wrenn and Realmbreaker is Green, where does the red in Wrenn and Six come from?
I dunno, if I tried to fuse with someone, I'd probably go a little red too.
Comes from wrenn, who is glowing red. Its just less intense with the other two, which are both larger numbers than six. Realmbreaker is a number.
Look I'm just excited for the commons to shake pauper up, I'm hoping for some good 1&2 drops for black and green
Isn’t shadow of the second sun super good in the epic enduring ideal list? Id love to see that deck make a comeback .
47:08 I know painlands aren’t fetchable, but a playset in your manabase could help with casting these eldrazi
New Ulamog uses ANY card in exile for its +1/+1 counters and annihilator check. Ugin's Labyrinth, Delve, even red impulse draw and slow blinks.
Funnily enough, it's not even tied to cards in exile. Just put +1/+1 counters on Ulamog. Ozolith artifact to mass dump counters and anything else you can think of.
honestly being tempted to build 3 arna decks cause of how different they would all end up playing
Eladamri doesn't have an R after the D, it sounds like Ella-Domri (like the gruul Planeswalker).
I think Thraben charm will be an auto include sideboard card in any W/X creature deck.
Flip walkers make me super happy. I like super friends and want to orchistrate a "finale of the gathering".
Finale of the gathering is a four player game of eldrazi vs nico bolas vs slivers vs Planeswalkers.
Is all of mh3 coming to arena? Or just a selection of cards like with mh2
Shouldn't Tamayo be a mono blue walker instead of simic?
I'm just happy Kaalia of the Vast is coming to Arena
Artwork on Sorin is sweet.