UPGRADED Modern Horizons Commander Precon Gameplay | Disa VS Satya VS Ulalek VS Omo

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  • @DrivingCr00ner
    @DrivingCr00ner Před 23 dny +372

    Just saying, if Aaron were ever inclined to produce a “deck building” content series, I’d pay cash dollars for it. And be super psyched about it. Amazing deck builder!

    • @starmanda88
      @starmanda88 Před 23 dny +21

      I hate to say this because I love them all but Aaron really is GOAT status

    • @broodstar8872
      @broodstar8872 Před 23 dny +28

      as someone local to them, when you see Big Aaron at an LGS you can shoot the shit with him pretty much all the time

    • @woopertrainer
      @woopertrainer Před 23 dny +12

      I love all his builds

    • @rachelzmak4784
      @rachelzmak4784 Před 23 dny +7

      For real, it would be really cool to maybe have a patreon level where Alex can fine tune Patron decks, and if he had time/energy, to do deck videos (maybe as shorts!) that aren't Patron limited

    • @downinfrontpodcast5357
      @downinfrontpodcast5357 Před 23 dny +3

      My $$$ will support this video series

  • @groknartheterror
    @groknartheterror Před 23 dny +191

    I think that pregame joke may have been lowkey one of the best openings ever

  • @Kestral287
    @Kestral287 Před 23 dny +69

    Since this somehow hasn't been a comment yet, for the discussion at the end: both Atraxa and the Goyfs have the card types listed solely as reminder text. You'd use whatever the most up to date list of card types is, so Atraxa does see kindreds and Goyfs do see battles.

  • @alexanderullman5353
    @alexanderullman5353 Před 23 dny +63

    Alex's joke before the game begins was just... :chef's kiss:

  • @burningpapersun1
    @burningpapersun1 Před 23 dny +42

    Pyrogoyf was the mvp with that graveyard spell.

    • @DiabloTommaso
      @DiabloTommaso Před 23 dny +2

      True! Every edh show i saw show showed how good that card is

  • @isaacbaker8784
    @isaacbaker8784 Před 23 dny +12

    This is gonna sound corny but I love the chemistry you all have in these videos. I really enjoy the interaction you all have and it brings a genuine smile to my face. Literally my favorite CZcams channel

    • @Radiodad
      @Radiodad Před 22 dny +3

      No you are 100% correct, they all have a rapport that just makes you feel there and part of the fun!

  • @HeraldsHorn
    @HeraldsHorn Před 23 dny +32

    Thank you so much for the shoutout! :)

  • @aeorling
    @aeorling Před 23 dny +24

    The table talk is just lovely. :)

  • @Wulfarwacht
    @Wulfarwacht Před 23 dny +81

    I love how Reddit ripped the Graveyard deck a new one, yet it constantly delivers and upgraded it absolutely shreds.

    • @broodwarjc1517
      @broodwarjc1517 Před 23 dny +24

      No one played removal and the best new creature from the deck Pyrogoyf got down early and stuck around way longer than it should have. The goyf side of the deck might not be as bad as some think, but overall I think Coram's graveyard plan is better than Disa's.

    • @plasticmotif43
      @plasticmotif43 Před 22 dny +3

      I literally said in two posts that it is the strongest precon. People are just mad that it didn't include a few other tarmagoyfs. It definitely looks like it was started as Coram as the face commander though. Either commander at the precon helm is very strong.

    • @lionlanger1804
      @lionlanger1804 Před 17 dny

      I love disa everyone seems to focus on the first Paragraph but her second one is really good and her first Paragraph is basically a you win Button with buried alive as you Assembler a pyrogoyf/polygoyf/anger pile and go to town

    • @natebeal18
      @natebeal18 Před 8 dny

      ​@@plasticmotif43 It's not even remotely close to the strongest. Upgraded it's playable but the Simic Lands deck out of the box is absolutely broken.

  • @herrvonhagen4139
    @herrvonhagen4139 Před 23 dny +18

    stumbled over this channel a few days ago, been watching a lot since. cool content guys

  • @BiGGyCLD
    @BiGGyCLD Před 23 dny +4

    i LOVE the out and in aspect of cards you guys remove and add and then show the actual cards. that was cool

  • @RussellJonesZBT
    @RussellJonesZBT Před 23 dny +1

    Some really great decisions in deck building, there are some cool directions to take these. Great job, Aaron and team!

  • @jacobtrahan1993
    @jacobtrahan1993 Před 24 dny +4

    Solid as a rock never gets old! Thanks for the great vids as always

  • @hellNo116
    @hellNo116 Před 23 dny +7

    This and I can't stress this enough was a precon game holy macaroni batman.
    This is not our grandpa's precon decks

    • @jfoley3484
      @jfoley3484 Před 23 dny +7

      Upgraded precon, important distinction.

  • @michaeltermine5015
    @michaeltermine5015 Před 22 dny +3

    its weird, because a lot of the cards in the everything deck care about a variety of lands (lotuspost and the gatemaster) but not a variety of creatures. glad to see aaron resolved that issue

  • @Strawb_milk5
    @Strawb_milk5 Před 23 dny +61

    Boo alex (the editor told me to do this)

  • @SadDogofShimano
    @SadDogofShimano Před 23 dny +7

    I've discovered this channel recently, the content is amazing!!And Aaron should do guides about deckbuilding, he' so good at it.

  • @WayneyMTG
    @WayneyMTG Před 23 dny

    Great job on the upgrades, im being convinced even more to pick up one of these precons, or just all of them

  • @NEALMateo
    @NEALMateo Před 23 dny +3

    Damn...Jund-Goyf was reaminating and swinging. Nice!

  • @KidAlphaMax
    @KidAlphaMax Před 23 dny +14

    This makes me want Graveyard Overdrive so much!

  • @BlackWaltzWaifu
    @BlackWaltzWaifu Před 24 dny +1

    As always, fun times and good banter

  • @DPreirinha
    @DPreirinha Před 23 dny +4

    As always, loved the content. Just an FYI, the side camara is doing a weird zoom, last video was like this as well. Hopefully you guys already noticed that and that it's not me xD. Keep it up. Thanks

    • @JustinNovack
      @JustinNovack Před 23 dny

      Yeah.. agreed. I think the zoom may be a bit over-aggressively used. A highlight zoom here and there sure.

  • @Cephalopopo
    @Cephalopopo Před 21 dnem

    You guys are great. You just hit the right balance of playing for the win and having fun that is actually rare. I hhonestly do not like cedh yet I find myself to surprisingly enjoy your cedh videos the most, it is really the clean way you guys play skilled magic, still interesting decks and most importantly the post game wraps. Its just really well balanced gamer content.

  • @EternalRoxas
    @EternalRoxas Před 21 dnem

    That was such a great game, thanks guys as always

  • @gabemango
    @gabemango Před 23 dny +3

    I feel like a lecture from Alex or Jim would give me the push to change my life

  • @taylorjohnson5148
    @taylorjohnson5148 Před 23 dny +7

    All I know is… I must see coram again!

  • @NoPodcastsHere
    @NoPodcastsHere Před 22 dny +1

    Aha! 26:43 We caught Alex red handed doing an Attenburg-esque voiceover, proving that he knows full well of the captivating effects of his impossibly smooth voice...

  • @adambowen4965
    @adambowen4965 Před 23 dny +1

    That just went south so fast for everyone else out of self mill.

  • @connorl0204
    @connorl0204 Před 21 dnem +1

    Getting stuck on three mana tends to happen when youre told to mill 10 cards and 8 of them are mana producing…

  • @Sleeqb7
    @Sleeqb7 Před 22 dny +1

    I'd love to see a rematch of these upgraded decks because OH BOY TARMOGOYFS RAN AWAY WITH IT

  • @BriggsMullen
    @BriggsMullen Před 21 dnem

    Haven't started the gameplay yet, but I'm excited to see the upgrades for tricky terrain care about creature types. Every gameplay video I've seen of that deck, people don't even put the Everything counters on any creatures

  • @jacuzzi_jake
    @jacuzzi_jake Před 24 dny +1

    I love the new layout.

  • @niklasbolz4267
    @niklasbolz4267 Před 22 dny

    Pyrogoyf doing work. Holy shizzle that thing is like a tribal Terror of the Peaks. Great episode as usual btw. Keep up the good work.

  • @charlied8284
    @charlied8284 Před 17 dny

    Definitely need a deck building series

  • @CharlesDeuschle
    @CharlesDeuschle Před 23 dny +1

    Incarnation Technique is my MVP in Meren. Glad to see it getting it's due in this game.

  • @ElDocBruh
    @ElDocBruh Před 21 dnem +1

    lol First Aaron threatens to burn Jan's house down, now he's gonna kill Bill's entire family. This man is a menace!

  • @Archelepago
    @Archelepago Před 23 dny

    Only tuned into the MH3 games so far, I've enjoyed the gameplay. Loved seeing the upgrades with this, even a few budget choices that I had completely overlooked when prebuilding my own lists. Would love to see what the upgrades to the decks look like without the budgets while keeping the face commanders.

  • @joedoe7572
    @joedoe7572 Před 23 dny +4

    Battles and Kindred both count for both Lhurgoyfs and Atraxa

  • @Harbord
    @Harbord Před 10 hodinami

    Every time I hear the commanders name “Disa” I’m always just waiting for some to say “Disa Nutz - HA! Gott Emmm”

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  Před 4 hodinami

      Patreon needs to be a bit higher before we can afford to get Jar Jar in the studio

  • @xhaerterlevich
    @xhaerterlevich Před 23 dny +5

    At my lgs, the owner was all like "why is nobody preordering the graveyard deck? Just wait you'll see that deck will be effing awesome" and now I saw it! Thanks! As soon as I see it (hopefully), i'll pick it up!

  • @disposableheero
    @disposableheero Před 23 dny +2

    Minor interesting item. Alex triggerd ulalek with an Eldrazi paid for by Path of Ancestry, which I believe will result in the delayed scry trigger from spending the path mana on an appropriately typed creature to be copied along with the eldrazi displacer resulting in two scry 1s instead of just one.

    • @Kestral287
      @Kestral287 Před 23 dny

      Depends on how he orders the stack, but you probably should order that way for it. The way he did it was wrong, but wrong in the sense of being suboptimal rather than being illegal.
      And I believe he left on top anyway, so it was immaterial.

  • @hanfjord
    @hanfjord Před 22 dny +4

    "Gamegenic bless us, every one" - Bill 🎁

  • @vincentmccue7481
    @vincentmccue7481 Před 22 dny

    I have never wanted someone to be able to cast Reins of Power more than the end of this episode.

  • @WolfdaLegion
    @WolfdaLegion Před 22 dny

    Aaron is a damn good deck builder.

  • @Nilmur2
    @Nilmur2 Před 22 dny

    I find it interesting that Jim refered to Satya as similar to Riku of Two Reflections but personally for me, I think Ulalek is a turbo Riku.
    I also believe that an everything counter on a land would only allow the land to tap for choice from WUBRG and not colourless, didn't impact the game but good to note.

  • @pelitheinsane
    @pelitheinsane Před 22 dny

    That blew up quickly!

  • @rpkgaming4287
    @rpkgaming4287 Před 17 dny

    Not gonna lie, when Aaron was moving the dice around I thought I saw Master Roshi on the dice

  • @Aldrnari956
    @Aldrnari956 Před 22 dny +2

    3:12 boo! Boo that man!

  • @D.K.M.Espers
    @D.K.M.Espers Před 22 dny

    I am 1000% getting that Jund precon. Wow.

  • @Theorak
    @Theorak Před 22 dny

    Turns out, free reanimate and tokens is still the hottest thing :D
    Realized with the Fallout Engergy deck as well, needs more board wipes in those colors to stand against creature spam.

  • @TheMeatsiah
    @TheMeatsiah Před 8 dny

    11:50 Question, is there a pre made printable “everything” counter like this that can be found somewhere?

  • @abrahamwilliams2280
    @abrahamwilliams2280 Před 22 dny

    Does battle for icoria help that jund deck at all? Otherwise its a scary commander, if you get everything is a lycrophanthied goif. Good quicky though.

  • @tbmagoo
    @tbmagoo Před 22 dny +1

    Shoutout PC blue menu sparkling water

  • @daanverschaeren7197
    @daanverschaeren7197 Před 22 dny

    Satya’s effect reminds me more of Rionya. Copying creatures seems like a shared strategy.

  • @tatezierke7478
    @tatezierke7478 Před 21 dnem

    Does Ulalek copy the scry off of Part of Ancestry when copied? Because the land is also colorless if I remember Ulalek’s text box right.

  • @SkyFallenNerolin
    @SkyFallenNerolin Před 19 dny

    16:00 this deck also need an Battle so its 1+ more for the Lhurgoyf
    its so sad that only in march of the machines came battle.
    i want more.
    they are great and funny.
    give the enemy something they need to defent or i get something great or Big.
    like invasion of Gobakhan and New Capenna
    really great Invasions/Battles :D

  • @CodenameJD
    @CodenameJD Před 21 dnem

    Every game with these decks serves to prove my hypothesis: the Goyf deck might have the lowest reprint value, but it's easily the most fun deck.

  • @andyspotshop
    @andyspotshop Před 22 dny

    Was good he didn't play around the TecEdge. The land says if "an opponent" has >=4, so it was already live from Aaron even through Bill only had 3 lands. What a weird way to phrase the ability, wotc

  • @MrSaucesome
    @MrSaucesome Před 22 dny

    Ashes of the fallen would be a pretty good upgrade to the goyf deck as a 3rd maskwood nexus effect.

  • @beanslinger6
    @beanslinger6 Před 23 dny +1

    Best intro 😂

  • @allanturmaine5496
    @allanturmaine5496 Před 22 dny +1

    Let's go, Bill!

  • @AndreaGiuseppeCastriotta
    @AndreaGiuseppeCastriotta Před 23 dny +1

    Sorry for the question, but why adding Conspiracy and not Ashes of the Fallen to the Jund deck?
    Technically for Disa effect they work exactly the same, but AotF costs 2 generic compared to the to 5 with BB of Conspiracy
    I guess for Pyrogoyf Conspiracy is better?

    • @Kestral287
      @Kestral287 Před 23 dny

      The Altar too; giving your team trample is nice if you haven't already gotten super wide.

  • @ModAnonMTG
    @ModAnonMTG Před 23 dny +2

    if you guys dont get the sparkling water sponsorship after this they are messing up

  • @BlackLotusGaming89
    @BlackLotusGaming89 Před 22 dny +1

    Me before watching the video wondering why it’s so short:
    Me after 👁️ 👄 👁️
    Oh yeahhhhh…

  • @matthewstewart2298
    @matthewstewart2298 Před 22 dny

    Jim milling 10 and hitting 0 was amazing

  • @chriswhitright9097
    @chriswhitright9097 Před 24 dny +2

    Alex I laughed and I hate myself a little bit.

  • @cas126
    @cas126 Před 23 dny +3

    The jund popped off. Should get another couple games to see the other decks interact more.

  • @henriklundporsgaard4393

    I know it probably won't happen, but it would be fun to see more games with these exact decks. It seems some luck/misfortune was involved in this one...

  • @chazzer5968
    @chazzer5968 Před 23 dny

    Aaron.... what the heck was that turn?

  • @furak
    @furak Před 23 dny

    Pyrogoyf was an absolute powerhouse in every game i've watched with these decks, without it on the BF the deck is way less threatning.

  • @heirophantpm
    @heirophantpm Před 23 dny +1

    if Aaron reads these comments, I'd love to know your stance on how many board wipes to run in a given casual deck. this game is a prime example of a single boardwipe being able to completely change the pace/explosiveness of play.
    I'm guessing cards like Cyclonic Rift are "too expensive" but there's no reason something like Whelming Wave (I think that's the name?) couldn't be run... otherwise you run into this situation where the decks that can quickly explode onto the battlefield outpace everyone else and there's no rubber-band style effect.

    • @mtgaaron
      @mtgaaron Před 22 dny +1

      I run a couple in any given deck but I typically don't include them in precon upgrades (I also generally add more on theme ones when possible). That being said, Whelming Wave would be great addition that's also very thematic.

  • @Lyr00
    @Lyr00 Před 22 dny

    4:01 for some reason i hear something different from "gamegenic bastions" xD

  • @ajaydassani9931
    @ajaydassani9931 Před 22 dny

    Aaron is goat at deckbuilding

  • @gnomersy1087
    @gnomersy1087 Před 22 dny +1

    Looking at the cards in and out and how skewed this game ended up I really question trimming board wipes in decks that were already running probably too few of them to begin with given that their strategies were either slow, creature light/not creature focused, or grindy.

  • @Shenmue728
    @Shenmue728 Před 22 dny

    That goyf deck got wide fast.

  • @gavinlee9999
    @gavinlee9999 Před 22 dny

    I want the eldrazi deck but it’s depressing that the deck isn’t available at a reasonable price anywhere :(

  • @waynetriba3281
    @waynetriba3281 Před 19 dny

    I didnt expect to lose the game. I was on a streak lol

  • @Bleuchz
    @Bleuchz Před 23 dny

    Pyrogoyf is unreal

  • @kstandish42
    @kstandish42 Před 23 dny

    I can tell Bill and I are the same age because my first reaction reading Rampant Frogantua was also I LOST THE GAME

  • @qut0n
    @qut0n Před 22 dny +1

    Boo(-la-la) Alex. I was told to do this.

  • @combosarefun4449
    @combosarefun4449 Před 22 dny

    Its quite the card.
    Pyrogoyf has been the MVP of the game everytime I've seen it.

  • @ViciousVic595
    @ViciousVic595 Před 22 dny +2

    Wow! A I lost The Game reference in 2024! That takes me back! God damnit I just lost The Game!

  • @Jjdude101
    @Jjdude101 Před 22 dny

    Christ. Aaron was playing a totally different game lol

  • @DJ_Khaalis
    @DJ_Khaalis Před 16 dny

    I think the graphic showing what cards got removed from Tricky Terrain was wrong. The decklist shows that an Island was removed, not a Forest.

    • @DJ_Khaalis
      @DJ_Khaalis Před 16 dny

      Well either that or the decklist was wrong and it was meant to remove a Forest instead of an Island.

  • @Pyrophyte5
    @Pyrophyte5 Před 23 dny

    8:57 How did Bill cast his commander? Shouldn't Cloudpost tap for 0?

    • @mindforz
      @mindforz Před 23 dny

      Cloudpost is a Locus, it counts itself

    • @Pyrophyte5
      @Pyrophyte5 Před 23 dny

      @@mindforz Missed that, thanks!

  • @diskuslars7527
    @diskuslars7527 Před 14 dny

    I also play Tricky Terrain and in 20 games i never draw that bad as Bill does ^^

  • @fugitiveweaboo1625
    @fugitiveweaboo1625 Před 22 dny

    is it me or at 11:05 alex played the comander without thinking of the cost reduction of herlads horn?

    • @alexmcgregor8658
      @alexmcgregor8658 Před 22 dny

      Heralds horn only reduces generic costs, and Ulalek doesn't have any generic pips.

    • @fugitiveweaboo1625
      @fugitiveweaboo1625 Před 22 dny

      @@alexmcgregor8658 Kay thank you

  • @stevenboland9271
    @stevenboland9271 Před 23 dny

    @11:10 Alex missed an opal palace trigger 😭

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  Před 23 dny +2

      We were fairly sure that Herald's Horn wouldn't Reduce Ulalek, and I would have needed another mana to use Palace's second mode. -Alex

    • @DDDHunter
      @DDDHunter Před 22 dny

      @@TheSpikeFeeders it does according to reaper king's ruling on gatherer
      If an effect reduces the cost to cast a spell by an amount of generic mana, it applies to a monocolored hybrid spell only if you've chosen a method of paying for it that includes generic mana.

  • @rinconbigas
    @rinconbigas Před 23 dny

    Someone please clarify how he was able to cast Incantation Technique so many times?

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  Před 23 dny

      Demonstrate allows him to gift a copy of the spell to someone else to make an additional copy for himself, and on the second resolution he reanimated an Eternal Witness, which returned the original card to his hand when it entered.

  • @vincegod1996
    @vincegod1996 Před 23 dny +1

    If I'm correct @16:50 or so Aaron's commander only produce one tarmogoyf token (since its written one or more creature deals combat damage) which means also only one pyrogoyf trigger.

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  Před 23 dny +8

      Disa's second ability would need to read "One or more players" instead of "A player" to work the way you suggest. This maxes it at one per struck player, no matter how many creatures hit, rather than just one per combat step.

    • @veganpork7601
      @veganpork7601 Před 23 dny +3

      It's like professional face breaker, which creates a token for each PLAYER that was dealt combat damage, so they did play it correctly

  • @Son-of-Gloin
    @Son-of-Gloin Před 22 dny +2

    DAMN YOU BILL. I LOST THE GAME.

  • @taylorjohnson5148
    @taylorjohnson5148 Před 23 dny +3

    Amazing joke, alex

  • @aofie5151
    @aofie5151 Před 23 dny

    The term gas leak gets thrown around a lot, but I think even the decks had a little too much carbon monoxide this episode

  • @andrewwhite2123
    @andrewwhite2123 Před 21 dnem

    Jim is on the wrong side of the table! (The editor knows nothing about this)

  • @stefanstewart9079
    @stefanstewart9079 Před 22 dny

    Pyrogoyf appearing in the first 4 turns in almost every video with these decks seems sus.

  • @davidmink370
    @davidmink370 Před 23 dny +1

    smh y'all removed a goblin

  • @ekplayscards
    @ekplayscards Před 23 dny +2

    BOOING THAT MAN BUT NOT VERY HARD

  • @SahnigReingeloetet
    @SahnigReingeloetet Před 23 dny

    Graveyard Overdrive is a bad precon, Hans said

  • @enriquegd2977
    @enriquegd2977 Před 3 dny

    Omo doesnt need an everything counter sice the is arleady a shapeshifter

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  Před 3 dny

      Shapeshifter doesn't grant every creature type, however some shapeshifters do have Changeling, which gives them every creature type.

  • @BloodMoonGo
    @BloodMoonGo Před 21 dnem

    16:55 Aaron should have only made 1 token. Making Extra 5/6s really changed the course of the game :/

    • @TheSpikeFeeders
      @TheSpikeFeeders  Před 21 dnem

      The trigger was resolved correctly.
      It creates a token whenever one or more creatures hits a player, which happened 3 times in that combat. To behave the way you are describing, the card text would have to read "whenever one or more creatures deals combat damage to one or more players".