Chêne Gear Presents | Under Pressure
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- čas přidán 5. 12. 2023
- A Tennessee Mallard project film with Dr. Bradley Cohen. Learn as his team conducts applied research to understand how habitat management and landscape conditions affect wildlife populations.
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Hunting PRESSURE. This is great seeing this film. Educating the public is key
First of all- this is NOT the ORIGINAL science project for this to be studied on. California “satellite refuges” at the Grasslands near Los Banos, Minnesota DNR (when they had permission from USFWS HPET Office in Fergus Falls) to take specific WPA’s and have them designated as state refuges (and this has been discontinued), and WRAP (Waterfowl Rest Area Program) that was initiated by the late David Boudreaux - contract biologist with USFWS from Crowley, Louisiana who was mentored by 2 legends in the waterfowl biology world, Johnny Lynch and Art Brazda. The "X" map outlined in this video? David Boudreaux initiated such in 1981, and these biologists were told such.......so much for being INNOVATORS.
All of the above mentioned were created to soften the impact of hunting pressure in certain locations across America……and it has worked.
Second to note- not one mention of all the flooded unharvested corn (shown in this video) has had an impact on mallard behavior? Their telemetry studies have shown mallards go to these locations and do not leave whether the water is frozen or not frozen, and these studies when presented to Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency was looked upon as a GOOD THANG……holding ducks in their state which historically has never been a wintering area, only a migratory resting location (such as Reelfoot Lake) which would catch ducks traveling back and forth along the Mississippi River corridor.
Third- this study is in the Mississippi Flyway, the flyway that has more duck hunters than the other 3 combined (which is why they have 60 days to hunt ducks in the general season compared to 74/100 days in the Central Flyway or 107 days in the Pacific Flyway) so yes, there is more pressure on these birds, always has been and always will be……but the Mississippi Flyway has also lost 10% of their duck hunters in the past years compared to gains in the other 3 flyways which has increased from 8% to 20% depending on the flyway.
Last remark- every one who watches this video (including the biologists with this study) should read 2 books printed by the Department of Interior/ USFWS printed in 1964 and 1984- Waterfowl Tomorrow and Flyways. Both these books forecast the DRAMA we are seeing now within the waterfowl hunting world, so considering it was foretold 6 decades ago it should be a lesson to all we need to learn from the past……..
Spot on Bobby!
So what you’re saying is.. The studies were already done on the migration.. sarcasm.. So this would tell me they disregarded probably the best Waterfowl biologist that ever walked the earth studies like they were never done? You think any of these guys know there once was a Canada goose migration to La ?
@@AmiteLa1 Let’s just say they would like the LEGEND attitude to fall on their shoulders since the ones I mentioned have passed away…..
The “X” map- Boudreaux’s idea, but didn’t do it with drones, walked to every blind in and around Cameron and Vermillion Parish. He accomplished it in 1981.😅
Barry Wilson, works for USFWS, was these fellas “voice of reason” towards the “X” map- problem is Wilson was extremely jealous of Boudreaux. I am willing to bet his name was not even mentioned to these fellas, but that is Wilson for you. Has a history of such.
Thanks for reading- waterfowl management is so twisted these days you have to look at the past to really understand the changing dynamics. Get a chance, check out LDWF Commission meeting minutes for 1968. It was when LDWF walked out of the MFC for 8 years- Canada goose shortstopping was the main reason.
It’d be great if other states would follow in your footsteps. Sounds like a plan for success and no wonder. A lot of people on this research that are professionals and know what they’re talking about. We need this. Our kids need this.
Ah, other states have done this PRIOR to this project, specifically the rest areas located where gun pressure is high. It goes back to some locations initiated in the late 60’s/early 70’s.
Please don’t Tennessee is a trash example. Half of the students in this study are against hunting.
@@duckhunternjm94 Students representing Cohen Wildlife Lab are against hunting????? What, they couldn’t FIND a job other than what Cohen was offering??🤦
I find that HARD to believe, but we are seeing both federal and state wildlife biologists that are non hunters but understand the resource and what hunting is about to help the resource to stay healthy for future generations.
Sadly, this STUDY has so much flaws in it, that you must understand HOW and WHY it was initiated. It was decided decades ago to provide opportunity to states not wintering waterfowl like Louisiana and Arkansas in the Mississippi Flyway. The end result was distribution of waterfowl now in the Northern areas of the flyway with the State of Louisiana wintering a small fraction of it one did- 11,000 white geese and 1,000 specks in the SW region in the latest survey taken 4 days ago. Blame it on CLIMATE CHANGE? Hey, not a denier of that by any means……but Louisiana didn’t lose their wintering population of Canadas in the 50’s because of fossil fuels, and how they manipulated the Canadas is the same way they did to the ducks, just added water to the equation.🤷
This was done in 60s by waterfowl biologists.. they called it short stopping..
This is an extremely important topic. Kudos to Chene for supporting such important research and great job Brandon Martin for putting together such a wonderfully shot video. The quality and content are absolutely top notch
According to the Wetlands Center in Lafayette, the individuals who made this video contacted them for clarification on this study……which means they followed the same format David Boudreaux did years ago., as I described in the comments.
Too bad you didn’t follow up or know this subject as I was told on such, but hey…..someone always wants to be the cheerleader for someone, go get you some.🙄
@@bobbycrenshaw5167 I’m missing the point of your incoherent message. What you mad for bro? It’s an important subject. Everyone should be talking about it. Kudos to ALL the researchers doing such great work and for those making fantastic videos to educate the public. Hopefully even more research will continue to be done and Brandon will continue to report on it.
@@1TnRiceFarmer Point is Hoss, no mention of the individual who came up with project in the first place!! X MAP- same words the late David Boudreaux described it 40 YEARS AG0!!!!
@@bobbycrenshaw5167 😂 Is that what has your panties tied up? Brandon wasn’t doing a phd dissertation that included references. He was reporting on one research project being conducted currently that helped prove previous research as is done in all of science. How about we redirect your anger towards important things such as child molesters like JB. 😂😂😂 🎉🎉
@@bobbycrenshaw5167 😂 Is that what has your panties tied up? Brandon wasn’t doing a phd dissertation that included references. He was reporting on one research project being conducted currently that helped prove previous research as is done in all of science. How about we redirect your anger towards important things such as child molesters like JB. 😂😂😂 🎉🎉
Chene putting out some awesome videos lately. Y’all keep it up!
Very educational and thought provoking how Mallards respond to pressure, see and experience same out west on the Lower Columbia River ,Lewis & Clark Wildlife Refuge Refuge.
Informative and entertaining, I like the style of the filming/video too. Thank you.
Man love it keep it up love your gear.
Very interesting. Great vid!
Cohen is an awesome place and great to see what they’re doing to help
Help? How is having and studying flooded unharvested crops HELPING waterfowl hunting in the Mississippi Flyway? They already found birds don’t leave when the water freezes over, so it helps ones who do such?
Sorry, I hunt in NW Louisiana and Cohen Wildlife Lab hasn’t shown anything but to assure ones that flooded unharvested crops keeps birds from flying South. BTW, these individuals who did the video- they talked to USFWS Wetlands Center in Lafayette, Louisiana to find out about WRAP (Waterfowl Rest Area Program) which is something in effect when they were still in grade school, like KINDERGARTEN…..🙄
@@bobbycrenshaw5167they’ve figured out how to hold more birds in mid to northern latitude areas.and it’s only going to get better for those states and worse for Louisiana and Arkansas. Now they’re attacking public land woods in Ark after already delaying early flooding. It’s all about the $$$$.
@@andrewn.5117 Louisiana has a new governor, Andrew- already shook up LDWF.
Southeast Missouri says hold my beer to West TN when it comes to hunting pressure.
Excellent film and interesting research. Kind of grim information but brings hope that the research will lead to better hunting success as well as longevity for the duck populations.
Interesting stuff. I'd like to see some research done in and around the Middle TN refuges and public blind WMA's. Why the duck numbers have decreased so over the last 20 plus years and is the migration corridor shifting west.
Thank you Chene for your hard work.
Amazing video, what an awesome job the Cohen group is doing. I think that’s one of the coolest careers
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My question would be what has changed in the past 5-7 years to cause this. A majority of those same blinds have been in place for decades. Most areas in the bottoms have far less pressure now then they did 15-20 years ago. Most public land closes at 3pm now. But in the past people would hunt daylight until sunset. The whole idea was for it to give a place for the ducks to rest in the afternoons so they would use those areas.
I think its a combination of things. Too many million dollar clubs now creating millions of acres of artificial habitat. Ducks are not returning to public land. Why would they do that? In the past they had to because thats where the large majority of habitat was. Not the case now. Its sad but duck hunting has become a business and that has ruined everything.
I agree! I don’t know it is only hunting pressure. Every refuge is surrounded by hundreds of acres of flooded fields with standing crops. Why would a duck get up and travel long distances for food when he has all they could eat in the area. They have no reason to go to public land or or travel any distance from the refuge at all.
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@@brandonjones6703 Hopefully things will get so bad that people will stop hunting. Revenue will go down and they will see the light. I dont really think that will happen but its the only thing that will make a difference. I would love to see a new law limiting the amount of land you can flood. Would also love to see a no baiting law. NO flooded food.
@@onlysanepersonleft I do not see anything like this happening. Most of these clubs and people paying for leases are #1 supporters of DU and other local waterfowl organizations. They have ties to state and local government and will fight any attempt to limit those things. They will and can argue that it supplies more habitat for ducks and other animals.
The only way any of this is going to return things to the way things were is to limit the amount of artificial habit you can create. Also they need to outlaw baiting (artificially flooded food) There are million dollars clubs all up and down the fly way. The are all creating hundreds if not thousands of acres of artificial habitat. Ducks do not need to migrate as far anymore to survive. Over time, generations of ducks have learned this behavior. Public land is done. Sure you can get lucky a few days out of the year but its never consistent.
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They days of getting a few ducks for a good gumbo.are over finding a place to hunt cost thousands not worth anymore.
Open up the refuges
You can dress up in Camo and act like your for the duck hunter if you want to. Last thing a Duck hunter needs is more area you can't hunt!Ducks need more resting areas? Ducks will find a quite place with out any refuges period. Refuges never where interested in making hunting better for the public.
Sky busting sure doesn't help matters.