China's Oldest and Most Powerful Combat System
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- It is said that Shuai Jiao has over 3000 years of history!
Belt cracking in Shuai Jiao is not only a visually impressive skill but also a crucial training tool. It helps develop explosive power, precision, and control - all essential elements for effective grappling and throwing techniques
Especially thanks to Master James Lin, a direct lineage under GM Chang Dong Sheng
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I would love to see more kungfu styles like Bajiquan, Praying mantis, White crane etc. Keep up the great videos Kevin
@@projectkara-wt4isanyone you know that’s great at Praying Mantis?
@@KevinLeeVlogI know he lives in Australia, but i recommend "monkey steals Peach" his content is awesome
@@KevinLeeVlog How about Monkey Steals Peach channel on youtube? He practices Taiji Mantis. At some point he collabed with Jesse Enkamp, maybe Jesse can hook you up?
@KevinLeeVlog How about Kung Fu San Soo?
Legend says that this Chinese technique was created after someone’s son got an A- in 1200 A.D
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Hahaha 😂
Good one @farting4348 haha. Somehow I find this hilarious, yet dauntingly traumatizing at the same time. Oh, the dichotomy!
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I'm learning sanda (Chinese kickboxing) and many of the throwing techniques we learn come from shuai jiao, and it's really a highly effective grappling system, I really enjoy training
It’s a part of kung fu strictly covering fighting
you learn this technique immediately after becoming a parent
There is Kung Fu in everything, even parenting.
@@brianquint6126 Everybody is Kung-Fu parentiiing 🎶
Well you used to anyway...
@@Flokoli1Oh great, now I have that song in my head. 😂😂😂
Neil Magny's burner account !?!
My mom learned this shit back in The 80s and in the 90s she became a master
Mine used the one handed technique.
@@vmarc4682 😀😀😀
Thank you for putting the work in Kevin! Good kung fu needs more exposure.
Thank you!!
When I first saw this I thought it was a way to train punches with resistance to avoid overextended the elbow, but this is pretty cool.
The double hand thrust then the throw are in Bassai dai shotokan karate kata...it's great when these things link up - they have the same roots
According to Patrick McCarthy, Tegumi or Okinawa wrestling (the roots of Karate's grappling aspect) is historically linked to Shuai Jiao since Okinawa was heavily influenced by Chinese culture.
@@combatsportsarchive7632 Not surprised with the old trade links. Karate people should look at all the South East Asian and Chinese styles - you often see the exact movements from karate katas being used
It's so nice to see that a lot of techniques of different fighting styles stem from the same roots. Amazing class! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🥋👊🏻
You can see the muscles he's built up in his arms. It good strong core, balance and speed with momentum.
In chinese they called this 摔跤 shuai jiao, in japan 柔道 judo, and in the west called wrestling. Almost similar in techniques, just a little differences in small details
In india we called it ghusti
In Africa laambe
in Malaysia it's Gomol and Silat Jatuh
@@nagamalaya4232 I wanna learn silat, who is the best
@@k.d1524 I don't know what you mean by who is the best but there is no the best martial arts in this world, the best is the martial artist himself in controlling himself and his enemy. If you mean what Silat school I recomend, I'll recomend Silat Gayung Fatani or any Silat Jatuh/Jawi school in Southern Thailand or Northern Malaysia
As a Chinese i can confirm that this is an age-old technique ingrained within our very bloodline, and becomes active the microsecond my parents see my exam results.
wrestling is always the core of martial arts, no matter the period and no matter where the art is !!
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Not true even though wrestling is a martial art other things that we call martial arts were around long before wrestling yes u can argue all grappling is a form of wrestling but you weren't talking about that
@@Azraerll grappling is growing lately but striking and wrestling is the core for very long time, there were no soft mattress so once you get throw to the ground it's kinda over. Even today you can see countless CCTV where a guy KO other guy (in a bar, on the streets, in schools...) with a punch or a throw, very little grappling/lock in those footages. Grappling is a must nowadays in MMA competition but it's the cherry on top. Wrestling and striking (emphasize on punching) is the core martial arts for thousands of years.
Fact! wrestling bases martial artes + weapons training
@bongkem2723 now your bringing up striking what does that have to do with your modern wrestling is the core argument? Might as well say boxing is the core of it all U never said how it is the core when mixed martial arts was an event in the first olympic games, which was before modern wrestling all because I grab a person doesn't make it wrestling the throws on the video u can't do in wrestling the street fight videos on youtube shows most people can't fight 🤣🤣🤣🤣
WOW - the belt exercises - so practical. I totally didn't know about this. Very cool.
"Using belt as weapon more in Malaysian martial arts instead of belt ,Malaysian use "sarong / linen or scarf it s called 'Silat "❤
Yep! I am a Silat practitioner too!
@@KevinLeeVlog nice! Which style/styles you practice? You also train applicable ground techniques? Cause i find there is some groundwork in silat which are a good unorthodox approach to a lot of bjj principles
sarong is not a scarf
Another name for the scarf he mean is "cindai" or "selendang"
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This connected a lot of dots for me. Great video!
Awesome!!!!
Just so cool the many techniques Kev is bringing to us!
The shifu has massive forearms
Thanks for sharing the vid and introducing us to this wonderful teacher. I’ve always wanted to learn Shuai Jiao, but never came across a school that teaches it. Can’t wait to see the future vids!
Thank you for watching!
"not optimal"...this dude is amazing, and that answer has wisdom that i will likely spend a long time trying to fully understand
Thank you so much!!
Wonderful video, Kevin. There are so many training uses for old (abandoned😂 belts). As a kid we had to kick into a belt that was held infront of us in a loop. Once in a while the belt would "catch" our foot. We would have to jump around until we figured out that the secret was to turn our leg/foot to escape. I love lessons like this! Useful but also adds to the mysticism a bit too. Lets face it, it is a lot of fun too. Great guest, great messages, thank you!
Thank you so much!!!!
Sounds less mystic more like your coach turned training into a game to keep the kids healthy was teaching investee
It would be very interesting to see a person who is well trained in Tai Chi and Shoui Jiao
By the way Kevin could you do a video with Tim Cartmell?
He mastered several internal martial arts and has a black belt in Gracie Jiu Jitsu
dude this is perfect i've been wondering for years how to train a simple and basic grappling takedown technique but training it solo
That's very cool. My mom had this down by the time I was 2 1/2. Then she took off her high heel shoe and brought it to a whole nother level. I'd love to see the seminar. That's a lot of power.
Shuai Jiao is the Chinese kung fu wrestling form I took it in Miami years ago loved it like violent judo and original Jiujitsu
Great Demos, Great Body Mechanics Knowledge and Classic Method 👍 Keep making Chinese Grappling Videos.
These are positions along with some of the concepts being thought is how I teach the body mechanics of the “ginga” position in capoeira. I love how pure principles are repeated throughout martial art styles.
I was told that this is the grandmother of all kung fu.
Your presentations are always a pleasure, Kevin.
Thank you!!!
Another eye opening video. Thanks Kevin!
Thank you for watching!!
Holy cow that was crazy. Wow. I would love to see more from him.
This looks like it would be helpful for silat training as well!
So cool Kevin, love your work.
I practice praying mantis, and some of the mechanics could really help me out in the throws
Thank you very much for your so thoughtful insight and putting this on CZcams for public display very impressive🐼☯️🕉️📚💪 and komechi stance I've also had opportunity to learn some ideals from as well 🙏
Those images are depicting XinYi Ba from shaolin temple
Great episode!
Thank you!!! 🙏🏼🙏🏼
Many mothers have a black belt in belt cracking.
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It would be really interesting to see you experience someone who knows fajin and see your take on it
This was great. 👍
Great instruction!!!
Super cool 😎 …finally something to do with those older belts… as I’m 3/4th a form away from black belt! #shaolinkungfu #kungfulife #martialartslife gracias sifus!! 💫💚👏
This is great for Judo, I'll definitely be giving this a try.
It is said but can you and they provide archeological accuracy? All moves exist in very similar manner (but better) in Capoeira. In fact in the beginning that picture was a really good example of Capoeira’s Calçadeira. Also Cintura Desprezada Bandada com Giro is performed.
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing
Kevin please take some more lessons with Dr. Cheng about 24 forms martial performance of Tai Chi as his explonation is really acceptable for everyone who is interested at the subject🎉
I wonder how Tai Chi would fare against Shuai Jiao.
Great stuff again.
What a great instructor
Similar to staff drills.
Very cool Kung Fu system
thank you Sir for that extremely informative video, excellent!
Very effectiveway to learn osoto gari. Wich is a very good introduction to brazilian jiu jitsu, wich is good for wrestling and mma 😜🙏🏼
Interesting video. I give it a 8/10 🥋🥋🥋🥋🥋🥋🥋🥋
Shuai Jiao! It predates Luohanquan.
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@KevinLee, which school of Silat do you practice?
@@SoldierDrew I train under Guro Dan Inosanto. We do Maphilindo and Pencak.
Chinese wrestling is the real kung fu
@kevinleevlog You should typically have your back heel down with your body weight on your heels. We know from body mechanics being off your heels causes a massive loss of balance for only a minor increase of power. There are a few times you should purposely be off your heels, but in general it is a bad habit that puts you at a disadvantage.
great teacher!!!
He sure is!!
I trained Kung Fu at a school, who did Sanda, Tao lu/traditional & Schuai Chiao long ago. Would it be appropriate to label Sanda & Schuai Chiao Kung Fu styles & part of Kung Fu per-se tho?
amazing. Thanks for your efforts
Mu Shin Martial Culture channel debunks the notion Shuai Jiao is this old. It created by Manchu Qing Dynasty during late 1800s drawing inspiration from Mongolian Bokh.
Oh, wow!
With this kind of videos it becomes clear that all Chinese martial arts styles and their derivatives have the same theoretical basis. I think that most of the so-called traditional masters need to reset their misconceptions about striking, blocking and kicking. They need to think more about real hand-to-hand combat so that they can really interpret the techniques that are represented in the Tao Lu, even if the movements do not seem like it at first glance. Thank you.😉
Thanks 🙏🏼
Thank you!!
As a BJJ blackbelt, do you think the Chinese Shuaijiao technics can be used in BJJ takedown system? If so how will you compare them with Judo and Wrestling takedowns? Thanks!
Yes!!! There are so many things he showed so that would work really well for BJJ practitioners!
Yes it can I know a few shuia chiao students who practice BJJ as well and it’s a great conversation
Is that Mark Chengs garage?
Yes it is!!
Reminds me of the Manriki Gusari!
Great video
滿洲跤 Manchuria Wrestling
I love his horse stance
Wasn't this uploading yesterday
yip, tis unlisted now. They're the same length though, nothing seems changed
Yeah, I noticed a small error so I reload it. 😅
will this work, if I replace the belt with my nunchaku? It looks like it will work, but what do you think?
Is this a re upload?
@@jerediahgonzalez2315 Yeah, I noticed a small error so I decided to reload. 😅
Good stuff!!! BTW, Shuai Jiao is not 3000 years old. If you go back to the proginators of the 3 main Shuai Jiao styles ( Wan Baye of Beijing, Cui Xiu Feng of Tianjin and Ping Jingyi of Baoding). Their wrestling is directly descended from the wrestling of the Shan Pu Ying which is Mongol- Manchurian or in the Qing era "Buku". Yes China has many folk wrestling, but it is not connected to Shuai Jiao as many kung fu people AND Shuai Jiao people claim.
Northern nomadic wrestling styles date back to before the Mongols and tartars to the xiongnu and even earlier so 3000 years is not unrealistic, it's a pretty conservative estimate. Point taken on the lack of Chinese origin
@@KingoftheJianglYup. I mean both Mongolian and Manchurian wrestling came from Khitanese wrestling, so yes asiatic nomadic wrestling is 3000 years old. But if you really trace back the wrestling origins of Shuai Jiao, you would literally end up going back to wrestling tradtitions of the nomads since the very groups of people who are in the Shan Pu Ying are mostly Mongols and Manchurians who have their own wrestling culture and the birthplace of Shuai Jiao, Beijing, is literally the Manchu's home. But many people missed this point regarding the origins of Shuai Jiao.
Pretty Interesting.
Yep!!
Great video. The first time I saw this "belt cracking" exercise was in an old CZcams clip of Beijing WSL Wing Chun Sifu Wang Zhi Peng demonstrating how he integrates Shuai Jiao into chi sau. He is absolutely ferocious in throwing his student Jai Harmon. Very impressive. Check this link at about 1:55 -2:10. Note the long deep "arrow stance" unlike typical Wing Chun stances (other than in the pole form). Beautiful integration of WC striking and SJ throwing. All good kung fu needs all ranges, like the old saying "Ti da shuai na" or "Kicking, punching, throwing, locking"! czcams.com/video/4LSzcRCQZEI/video.html&ab_channel=ExperienceWingChunandTaijibySifuSergio
I’m just wondering what is this style called besides the oldest style of martial arts
@@aurelioruiz1344 it’s written in the description. lol it’s called Shuai Jiao.
@@KevinLeeVlog thank you I didn’t see that lol
Everybodys kung fu fighting
Funny how the most powerful martial arts forms are almost never put to the test and when they are, they almost always get their asses kicked.
Look up Sanda competitions. Sanda takedowns are taken from Shuaijiao
I think in John wick movie the wick use the same steps with belt right
I see a filipino martial arts logo in the back!
Correct if I am wrong but this is similar to Shuai Jiao ;)? I mean Chinese wrestling :)
@@mieszkowisniewski835 this is Shuai Jiao 😅 Belt Cracking is one of the techniques they practice in this system.
Awesome!!! :)
Thanks! 😄
What name of that system... I'm curious about it exist also in Netherlands 😊 ;)
@@mieszkowisniewski835 Shuai Jiao!
I don't know about the Netherlands, but I know here in the USA, there is a branch of Chang Dongsheng Shuai Jiao that exists in Ohio.
@@Rainbow_Oracle I check this and they have
We Asian learned this when we don't get an A+ in school!
Pranayama breathe also my brother 🙏✌️❤️🔥
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こちらは戦場の道を歩く為の武術ですよね？。
yes, from Mongolian grassland and northern China.
@@Zen-ep6mc 習いたい戦闘術が、たくさん有る😁。
@@user-he3ps5un7c Cheers)
Could this be Judo's roots?
Chinese people never used the name Martial art in their history.
Is it true that in China, sifu is what they call cab drivers etc.? I was told that you would not call your martial arts teacher sifu. Just curious. Interesting video, Thanks
@@bongdonky2568 yes and no. There are different words used for that matter but both sounds very similar in the pronunciations. Shifu (師傅）is used to call someone with a specific skill set. Ex, technicians, drivers and et. Sifu or Shifu (師父） is a teacher who teaches you a skill set, specially in martial arts, Chinese opera, and etc.
James is a master. So you wouldn't call him "sifu".
What is this art called?
@@joss1578 Shuai Jiao!
@@KevinLeeVlog Thanks!
What if no gi
What is the difference between this style and Judo?
I know they share some similarities but that would be a question for someone who actually knows the art. All I know is Shuai Jiao has been around over thousands of years.
@@KevinLeeVlog I read that Judo really comes from Shuai Jiao, which as you say is far before Judo.
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Judo came from Japanese Jujitsu, and the native Sumo (wrestling) of Japan.
The main difference is that the flavor of the two styles are very distinct. Both are types of jacket wrestling, so even if the fundamental techniques are not that different, the character is unique.
For starters, that deep bow and arrow stance is not typical in Judo. Shuai Jiao uses that and even deeper versions of this from what I've seen.
The angles for the body drop are kinda weird. Feel at liberty to use techniques freely, but from what I've seen, Japanese Judo tends to do the body drop very formulaic and square to the opponent's stance.
You don't see framing like the kind shown in this video for Shuai Jiao in the style of Judo. The typical judo grip is lifting-pulling, with that lifting hand usually being in that upper cut position. You basically learn to do all the basic throws with that grip, learn the extended sleeve grip version, and then move onto other holds.
Shuai Jiao has lots of different grips. Basically every grip imaginable, and then a few more. Sometimes I feel like a third of Shuai Jiao is just sweeping hip throw from 30 different grip positions. You can definitely approach it that way as a beginner.
Overall, I feel like Shuai Jiao is more of a do-everything style of wrestling, using all grips and all combinations imaginable, whereas in Judo while you can use it freely, they tend to favor perfecting a few core techniques with only a couple common variations.
Judoka are more light on their feet and tall, whereas Shuai Jiao wrestlers are usually pretty well planted. Thus Judo throws tend to be more up and down, and Shuai Jiao throws tend be more straight down I feel. I don't think that is practical to try and footsweep a Shuai Jiao wrestler. Not from walking steps anyway.
Shuai Jiao has leg levering and forced stepping which is not a very Judo thing to do. Judo tends to force the opponent to move more by pushing and pulling with the arms. I feel like more of the technique in Shuai jiao works by warping or ruining the opponent's posture, more in their spine, rather than just getting their whole structure in motion and off their base of support.
I'm not aware of kneeling finishes in Shuai Jiao, like how in Judo they often dive down on one or both knees to finish a throw. From what I've seen, Shuai Jiao has a more "stay on your feet" mentality. A little bit lit Taijiquan, sacrifice throw techniques seem to be forbidden, or if not, then extremely heavily frowned upon. The ground is usually ceramic after all.
Otherwise you could say that Judo techniques tend to feel more like the goal is to trip the opponent with your body, whereas Shuai Jiao technique has a very strong emphasis on wheeling the opponent with your body. Both styles block, and both styles wheel, but they favor different things.
Overall, the legs are much more strongly emphasized in Shuai Jiao than in Judo. The most common throws in Shuai Jiao are leg throws with many variations. You can hip throw without adding the leg in Judo, but that seems really rare in Shuai Jiao. If you can use the leg, then you add a leg.
In Shuai Jiao, if the leg is absent in a hip throw, a pressing palm on the leg or hip is usually substituted instead. I've never seen a Judoka attempt a hip throw with a pressing palm, and that is definitely not a standard nor orthodox technique.
Belt cracking is not a typical Judo practice. This is a very Chinese thing. As is the associated chain cracking. The most similar apparatus exercise for Judo that I've seen is the rectangular iron frame that Jigoro Kano is said to have constructed to hone his technique. It's overall similar in concept to belt cracking, but lacking any actual cracking.
Slams are illegal in Judo matches. I'm not sure if they are illegal in Shuai Jiao matches, but there are definitely several very well known and traditional shuai jiao techniques involving lifting and dropping, if not slamming per say. The switch hip drop (whatever the official name is) is definitely unique to Shuai Jiao, and is one of the most distinctive and flashy techniques in all of martial arts. You really don't see that anywhere else. It's definite a boss character technique.
That's everything I can think of off the top of my head.
Judo and Shuai Jiao feel very distinct to me. Kinda like how "men are from Mars, and women women are from Venus". They are the same, but different. They are familiar in shape, but alien in manner. That's my take.
@@Rainbow_Oracle thanks a lot for your great explanation!!
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Shuai jiao?
Sweet.
Thank you!!
Bodhi dharma introduced kungfu to China
Who is the dark skin figure in the old paintings?
Many Martial Arts or Kung Fu came from China !
Why don't you find out about Islam. And you can compare the Quran and the Bible. In Islam, Jesus is a prophet, not a god.
And God is one, not three.
Irrelevant to the content of the video.
One mythology is as good as another. And no objective, verifiable evidence has ever been presented to validate any of them.