This Master Proves That Wing Chun Works In UFC
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- čas přidán 7. 06. 2024
- UFC Coach Greg Nelson helping me to breakdown how he teaches sensitivty concept from Wing Chun to his fighters!
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Defeat jeff chan with wing chun in a mma cage fight, now that you had lessons
Or if he is too big for you, start with defeating gabriel varga with wing chun. Have a look at his signature moves, most professional fighters specialise in a small set. Like jeff with his double leg takedown, two step low kick and his intercepting cross. Then go to the coach or fong and ask them how to cope with it, finally crush him with wing chun.
If get the chance go visit Kevin Secours. He’s a Systema guy which by itself sounds laughable, but he’s an interesting guy who can show you a lot of cool stuff. And he spars! haha
Some type of esgrima! or hema!!
If my background was Wing Chun I would try to feel the strength of fighters from Ashihara or maybe Kyokushin for the purpose of finding a method to protect myself against that kind of brutal attacks. I would start with Ashihara myself.
I've been saying this for decades, "It's NOT the art, it's the practitioner. Their training in the understanding of the engagement that determines the outcome."
Everyone can go through the same medical or law school, but the outcome is different. It is up to the individual to understand and apply the skill learned. It makes no sense to say that this martial art is better than the other martial arts.
Why does it have to be one or the other?
It's also the teacher and the school. A talented teacher can make the most of an art, a bad teacher makes the art die.
@peezieforestem5078 cause people can be taught something and still can't use it like Math in school
@@Alden-Smith That doesn't explain it. People can also be taught false and inefficient things, like bloodletting.
DUDE!!! For the longest time I show and tell many people that wing chun is very useful on the back on the floor too! I’m so glad he was able to show it!!! You really leverage the floor on your back to chi sao while laying on the floor!
His hands look extremely heavy too! He is definitely an experienced Wing Chun practitioner
En Brother Not a practioner myself.but I Always SAW that application. BTW in Fraizer v Foreman you also will se some Wing Chun esque techniques.
I been saying that too! But I do admit it never occurred to me that it’s effective against the cage!
@@kalterverwalter4516its just chinese bare knuckle boxing
Very underrated form of defense for sure
Boxers have been using trapping and frames forever . George Foreman really implemented them in his comeback fights
Great observation. I noticed this years ago in one of his “over the hill, out of retirement” fights. He was always using one hand to pin the opponent’s.
When you’re much older and slower, you fight smarter
@@guanonline Exactly . Duran is another one I finally picked it up while re-watching as well.
That's because the "cross guard" came into boxing directly from wing Chun /Chinese boxing. (The cross guard being where the "philly shell" came from too btw) Although it actually exists in a few other martial arts as well such as traditional jujitsu.
@@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812The cross guard is in European pugilism forever. And yes, many other styles too.
@@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812play current boxing known today had influence from Filipino martial arts.
Great video ! Greg Nelson definitely embodies the whole absorb what is useful, reject what is uselesss, and add what is essentially your own. A fantastic coach!
I am a former amateur boxer and was a top ranked fighter USKBA kickboxing…. Used small bits of wing chun ALL THE TIME. And the sensitivity training so useful on the inside… as well as grip fighting in grappling
How many years did you train your wing chun?
Thanks for sharing this video Kevin ! TMMA is def key to everything and in life. I appreciate you for showing us this video
God damn, that man is a fighting genius
Amazing stuff!! Thank you both!
Yes! I love that you covered how it isn't about the art, more so the person! A key can open many doors and keep others locked. However, what use is a key if we want to bake a cake? People tend to struggle using the right art in the right way:) Expand the MA toolkit but also love and appreciate each art. Every single one can offer us something if our minds are open. Everything has a use and application! Thanks Kevin!
Ok this is propably your best vid for information how to apply trapping. Gorgeous.
So cool watching Nelson move! All his fighters use tuishou all the time! Now we know why! Great video Kev!
Wing Chun has always worked in ufc, it was banned from being your “main art” because of the brutality of some of the moves. Lot of throat, eye, and groin attacks. It was invented to be the ultimate self defense system in China, it’s idea was that anyone could use it, big, small, weak, or strong. It was invented by a woman and the art consists of using the proper angles and pressure points to your advantage.
Thats some steven seagal energy right there
You still need to have basic strength for any martial art. Weak people do not train martial arts. Tendon and ligament strength being even more important than muscle strength.
Ok.... the same technique can be applied to a legal target.... now what's ur excuse?
as you follow the rules, every martial art is perfectly legal in mma
@@DarkLight-Ascending don’t ask me, ask the UFC
One of the best episodes Kevin! Have him back soon
Hey! Excellent demonstration and explanation of applying sensitivity drills. You did great Greg!!
This master proves that Wing Chun, when used in combination with other arts, works in the UFC. What he's doing is very similar to the JKD approach to cross-training popularized by Dan Inosanto and his students.
The ufc, and mma as a whole all exist today because of wing chun. Bruce Lee popularized mixing martial arts with his invention of Jeet Kune Do, which the primary art in Jeet Kune Do is Wing Chun.
@@Haydean06Or Bruce Lee realised Wing Chun wasn't enough on its own so he added a lot of stuff from other styles. Bit like the UFC where BJJ and wrestling dominated, then the strikers started learning take down and grappling defences forcing the grapplers to learn more stand up skills until we got the hybrid style we have now.
Once again, Good Stuff! Thank you 🙏
SO AWESOME, yet again great interview & video Kevin, top of your game!
This man seems to be on another level, great video!
great video as always 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
This was great, thank you
great stuff, great coach! 👍
Love this- Great examples.
Been doing Jeet Kune Do past 2 years now and love learning trapping…👊🏽👊🏽
Excellent presentation, respect
A great video !!!! Thanks. And excellent new word : TMMA
Best post ever, Mr Nelson is incredible
Kevin, great video and interview. His trapping insights were brilliant. Can you do a trapping video? He's so quick in his movements that it's difficult to follow. Can you slow it down and do a video on the subject?
good coach... straight foward teaching... whatever it takes to get inside.. always 3-4 step ahead.. 👍😁
Very nice. I enjoyed these advises.
wow!!! this is Gold!!
That ground trap was great, would love to see a fighter pull that off but they often are too far into trying to finish w/ hammer fists/blows to stop and take the time to think about trapping the defending arm like that, but thats a secure way to finish pretty quickly and give the ref no choice.
This guys got some great moves 👏👏👏
The elbow hand trapping while in guard! I've done it, but now I know I should train it more
Great video!
Great video, very compelling stuff! And that's something that most of us over 30 have learned, it's the artist, not the art. Of course some of these kids commenting here on CZcams are so locked into whatever they practice that they're convinced it is the only effective thing. And I include mainstream MMA in that ("only MT/BJJ works! Karate/Judo is ineffective!"). Everything is effective in its way, it's a question of how skilled you are in applying those tools. It's the artist, not the art. 🙂
great vid and great guest
Amazing video!
A true martial artist 🙏
Really nice 🙌
Great video! Thank you! Where can I buy so wonderful sports trousers in old Chinese style ?
I’ve never seen taking the arm and trapping it under the thigh from top mount, it’s like like the straight jacket from back but now in front! In pure grappling That could be a great set up for Ezekiel chokes
lets gooooo!
😁😁😁😁
One of the best
Great episode again! Tbh i feel like there should be more videos about this topic. Wing Chun at this point is attached to such a stigma where the martial art is really suffering. We as Wing Chun practitioner are stereotyped as you do Wing Chun so it must be bad cause there are 0 UFC fighters that use Wing Chun. In fact there are definitely good Wing Chun fighters out there. I hope this voice/message can be heard and vocalized to a wider public.
Greg is such a Great teacher! What a Master and a Champion Maker he is.
Nice traps, in the mount position!
We may actually see these very soon
i appteciate your thoughts about absorbing pertinent aspects of the many disciplines
Good ideas come from everywhere and anyone.
Great video :)
Guy is in great shape to be instructing, actively thinking about what Kevin and he will do next, countering, for that long and not being tired
Kevin, Greg can play the character Stick from Daredevil! Great VIDEO!
simply beautiful
When I first started Bjj, I was about throwing everything away I trained in my Kung fu days. But after training several years, I’ve been seeing how Kung Fu helps with grappling.
Heck I’m starting wing chun this week hopefully it improves my Brazilian jujitsu game
Some kung fu styles are stand up grappling it makes sense
Wonderful.
Is this a repost? I swear he posted this video before under a different title?
Looks very effective
Greg Nelson is a legend, his techniques to enter the clinch and clinch work is awesome. He's one of the main reasons Brock Lesnar did so well
Good video.
Excellent video. Gung Fu is very real and very effective in the right hands!
I like Greg Nelson's use of chi sao and bong sau it's really effective Wing Chun which means He's been practicing for a long time with a partner
This dude's voice and overall style reminds me of like an MMA Tony Hawk. He has that legend status.
Is your school is nyc?
I myself Practicing the Native Kali of Philippines. I find Wing Chun concept of Defense and attack similarities and effectiveness only closed Combat Actions. He's right to utilized his knowledged of Filipino martial arts and Wing Chun if it's needed to shift into these modes immediately when needed. Of course if the attacker prefers to long distance high kick and rolling over hitting it's time to shift to another grabbing, trapping , like Judo or JetKundo or Muay Thai boxing,
I actually see you in these videos. It's like these five martial arts are coming out of your way of fighting.
For me I see these 5 martial arts works effectively to get the opponent to play your system and put him down & win the fight . Not the other way around. Totally Agree with him.
Yeah I thought hang on a second, this looks like FMA, and then hubud comes up and all the rest hahah. Awesome video.
Most ppl that see Wing Chun application in the cage don't know it is Wing Chun, they just automatically assume it is muay thai, boxing etc. Too many casuals watching MMA these days.
Dude, you are on a fantasy trip. Any way to justify a martial art that is crap.
@gregory4154 Anderson Silva, Tony Ferguson and Jon Jones disagree with you. Sit down casual.
@@silveriver9 Nice try. But work on taming your insecurities about an art that has as much practicality as a tai chi master on crack isn't believable. The real truth is, it is boxing, Muay Thai, have techniques that work, not the wing chun. As someone who has been in a few real life and death struggles, I would never suggest wing chun. I would bet my life on that and have. Not buying into the cult fees and kool aid.
@@silveriver9 Hey leaving you a gift: Why Wing Chun Gets Destroyed by Lawrence Kenshin Striking Breakdowns. It funny, he mentions those names you throw outta hope for proof. Only if you have the courage to look.
@gregory4154 Sitting on your armchair doesn't automatically grant you the rank of "expert" 😂. Keep typing piffle to compensate for your insecurity and lack of knowledge of the game.
Enjoy your channel Kevin. My Sifu, Alan Orr, has also taught Wing Chun as the stand up and striking art to coach his fighters for MMA and other combat sports with great success.
Not enough people talk about Alan Orr. He's been training fighters for many years using Wing Chun as the base martial art.
Alan Orr is the best at applying wing chun into MMA!
Love this guy’s work and open approach.
When Master Chigurh speaks, we listen! 👊
Experience also Kurodaiya the revolution in Martial art
wing chun always reminds me of HEMA just hand to hand instead of with weapons
Indeed. The 'knife hands' are a big clue, aren't they. It's just the term 'boxing,' I think, that gives people the wrong idea about its key open hand philosophy. As without swords or spears, it needs to rely on elbows to get the job done - to pressure for a 'bind' (sticky arms), and then trap for the elbow finish. Tony Ferguson Vs Petis is a good example to follow and shows the efficacy of such an approach. You gotta keep constant pressure on and hunt down the opponent whilst looking for the trap and elbow, though - as he says, space to run away is the problem.
Well the empty handed movements of wing Chun are largely based on the knives form of wing Chun. That's the same for most martial arts. You wouldn't train a soldier to fight one way with a weapon then a completely different way empty-handed, you would base them off of each other and use the same movements for both.
@@willtherealrustyschacklefo3812yup, and the swivelling butterfly knives give a clue to the heart of style more than the chain punching, perhaps - the necessity for the change of ranges from outside the phonebooth to inside the phonebooth.
@@Erime well "chain punching" is actually just a training exercise for developing certain things, it's not a "technique" intended to be used in a fight but to develop movements/ways of moving which you will use in a fight.
@@Erime although it too is also part of the knife from
When I was learning JKD this is exactly what we did. I would be shocked if my teacher and him hadn't been to some of the same seminars because everything, even the language, is the same.
From where does this "whobad" come? I have heard of Chi Sau of course. With time it will almost be as if you are reading their mind, or you feel as if Sifu is reading yours. Sensitivity to the max.
where is your school?
Exactly man, be like water my friends.
Its foolish to say that any true martial art is useless in ufc, theyre all forms and movements of the human body. Everything I see in life is useful, it just depends on the situation. Tbh as of late I've been most impressed by Tai chi chuan movements, id love to see someone in ufc applying it.
Everything can be implemented from any martial art and add to another one just like MMA mixed martial arts
Thats the point of mma take the best of everything the jabronies miss that point
Chi Sau sticking hands is one of the most useful fighting skills Yes because its fantastic for setting up moves and its freely spontaneous what a joke if some one doesn't have these skill sets it exists in a crude form in some systems although they don't train it as a separate skill.
Great video 😊
This is very good teaching and extremely effective but yet haters put down Bruce Lee saying he wasn’t a real fighter when he was a master at this.
Dude looks like Sensei Benny 20 years ago.
hubud? so more about kali/silat than wing chun?
Jon jones front kick to the knee is a wing chun strike... Anderson silva did wing chun too... I think tony Ferguson also... etc
That was awesome! Real application and not form based religion.
What gym are you at? It looks a little like mine.
I was at MKG in Minnesota.
@@KevinLeeVlog God damn it lol, I was there at the same time. We must not have bumped into each other. Great place, Rick really knows his stuff.
@@LastStar007 sorry to miss you! I was there to assist Sifu Francis for his seminar! Guro Rick is amazing and very knowledgeable!!!
Thank you!
Kung Fu is used all the time in MMA, by the definition of Kung Fu.
Shaolin Quan is used too. Many of the techniques are seen in many martial arts.
Vincent Meng in the ufc
nice
“No, we’re just trapping 🔥💰💯”
Great. Will practice before some idiot tries to challenge me to a fight again lol
I think ppl who only know Wing Chun cannot fight. But it is good for enhancing your skill set.
Mientras el adversario se mantenga en equilibrio durante el golpeo habrá intercambio por lo que la base es mantener fuera de su centro incluso cada vez que golpea o chequea cada pak sao ,tan sao o golpeó el adversario hay que mantenerlo fuera de su centro.🙏🙏🙏
IMO - a lot of martial arts can and do work.
But we don't train them in a way that lets them be effective any more.
Seeing stuff more and more like this where UFC is providing a place where we can get that back and incorporate some of these things in an effective way again.
the best style for a muscleman is tai chi. Western boxing is tai chi used with a fist.
Problem is that many kung fu teachers know the drills but they cannot apply it in a real situation because they have no experience or knowledge in that. They have good sales techniques only.
Then people try to fight like they do during a training drill and they fail and then they say kung fu stinks. Sticky hands is just one drill, a game, to train specific skills. People do that game all day and then try to apply it from a long distance and without reap experience
TMMA. I like that
I just made a video about this a day ago, mentioned Greg and Rose, perfect timing lol
I watched it. Great work 👏
@@TheKillaMethod 🙏👌
Like every martial art it only does well in combination with other martial arts, someone who has only trained in wing chun is going to fail in mma but that goes for bjj or muat thay aswel, we can’t give probs to any one martial art, it’s all mashed together now.
It's about how one trains & he was innovative.
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