Cascadia, DD15 coolant contaminated with oil and how to fix it.
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- čas přidán 16. 07. 2021
- Common problem with the DD15 and DD13 is oil will start to contaminate the cooling system. The first place you will notice this will be inside the coolant surge tank (expansion tank). The tank will start to get dark and stain with oil.
This will most likely be the seals at the oil cooler. This will require the complete oil/coolant module to be removed in order to gain access.
The job will take about 6-10 hours, after which the coolant system will need to be flushed (cleaned).
Oil that is removed, must be replaced with new motor oil. New oil filter and coolant filter must be used.
Oil seals will need to be replaced, oil cooler can be used but you must pressure test before reinstalling. Oil cooler must be torqued to 22 ft lb, new mounting gasket must installed and torqued.
If you have any questions, please consult a professional or your manual. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
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After watching this video, I never knew how oil got into surge tank. Now I know...thanks and great videos
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Hi, Pedro. Another great video. Ive done this on mine. Btw there's a drain plug for the coolant in the module. I'd still changed the oil just in case. Ive just done injector cup seals because my truck mixed fuel in coolant and it stinks. Im interested in what kind of product you use for the flush and what procedure you prefer.
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My 2015 was recently rebuilt and jan18th 23 just found oil in the coolant resevior. I hope this is all it is.
So i was running little bit hot than engine was used to and also running really hot when hauling 38-44k lbs. noticed less than inch of oil over coolant in coolant tank. Oil dipstick "seems" fine with just oil in it. So my question is what are chances that my head gaskets is out? Or is it this issue you showed us? I do leak coolant somewhere that i can not figure out. Also i can see that drivers side of engine is wet.
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Hi Pedro thanks for sharing this helpful video, I’m working on exactly something. And unfortunately I can’t find these orings oil seals. Dealer keep giving me different ones when I provide the VIN#. I even physically showed them and they can’t help. So could you please help me the part# for exactly oring you replaced. Thanks
Let me find out tomorrow morning. what is the last 6 of the VIN
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How much would it cost to repair that?
Thanks for the video Pedro I have a question what year freightliner cascadia do u recommend I’m looking for a single axle day cab?
Probably the 2014-2015 or newer, they have a slightly different set up when it comes to the DEF system. The One Box is almost the same.
I would look into a DD13, local work they are a good way to go. Seem to have less issues with the after treatment.
@@CarlosDieselElectric thanks should I get the 113 model or 125 model
Can I bring my 2016. Dd13 wiring problem to you?
So why seals get cracked. That is why people are saying DPF is overheating the engine
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you what's crazy I replace the gasket on that oil module if I had known while I was there I could have replace those gasket to not have that problem in the future. My next oil change I'm gonna pull it back down and drain coolant and replace those two gaskets. I rather that than oil and coolant mixing then be force to do it.
How did you come cooler being problem? How do you rule out cylinder head or cracked sleeves?
Head would be coolant in the oil. Here you have oil in the coolant.
Would the EGR cooler be a possible culprit for the oil in coolant? Maybe even the transmission cooler that’s on the radiator?
Coolant goes through the cooler to cool off the exhaust gases. So oil in the coolant would be coming from a different source. Not likely from the radiator, although might be possible. The seals on the oil cooler are usually the source of the problem. How many miles are on the truck?
@@CarlosDieselElectric ahh that’s right. I was thinking it was like a Cummins. They got a big problem with the seals for the egr cooler. I think the truck has like 300k maybe. I replaced the seals 1 time already and the oil cooler. Gotta get some time to check it out again
@@le3ch90 The seals over time get hard and that is where the leaks start. I would start there, least expensive place to start. Mostly labor, try doing it when the truck is due for service.
My detroit 60 series has oil in coolant resevoir and coolant level has been going down very rapidly as well. Is this head gasket issue? Or a transmission cooler or an oil cooler issue?
I would lean towards the oil cooler. Most likely culprit
Is there any recommendation when we should replace it or is it one of those things when it breaks you fix it.
I have seen them last many miles before any issues or problems present themselves. Usually the tank starts to get cloudy before any signs of oil are present.
Where u located
Nuevamente muchas gracias por la información ……. Pero lo que me está pasando a la Freitliler le está entrando coolant al fuel ….. mi compañero cambió los seals en los injector cups pero está haciendo lo mismo habrio hecho una equivocación mi compañero o puede ser otra cosa antemano muchas gracias espero y me pueda ayudar
Las copas tienen su propio seal aparte de los inyectores.
Puede ser algo en el cabeza or en el módulo de combustible
How long did you have this issue before you fixed it and where is the shop
The issue can take time to present itself. The driver needs to looking at the coolant tank to see if there are any changes.
Once the customer saw the issue, he brought it in right away. The job takes around 10 hours, plus you will need to flush the entire cooling system several times in order to get as much of the oil as possible.
The flushing of the system takes 4-5 attempts
Thanks for the video, how much will that job cost with parts and labor.
Parts and labor are going to run you about $1500-2000.
That includes gaskets, seals, oil cooler, new motor oil, new oil filter and miscellaneous parts.
@@CarlosDieselElectric ok thanks
@@CarlosDieselElectricwhere is this shop and got another question how long can you run before you replace and before it gets bad
@@abdiqaniadan2349 how long you can you run like that depends on the seals or the leaks. There isn’t really a way to tell how long it will last before everything goes sideways.
@@CarlosDieselElectric name of this shop please
Do you have a shop if so where you located I have the same problem
We are in Montebello, Ca 90640
Is this the only place oil will get into the water system? Or was there a diagnostic test you didn't show ?
This is the only place I have found where coolant can be introduced into the cooling system unless possibly the cylinder head but unlikely. The oil cooler, seals or the module itself.
I have only seen the cylinder head be the issue one time and that was because mechanic that overhauled it prior to it coming to my shop installed an EPA 10 block with a GHG 14 cylinder head. They are not compatible.
Where did you get them service books
Purchased them from Valley Power Systems. City of Industry, Ca.
Hermano donde puedo conseguir el manual de reparacion y que numero tiene
Yo compré los libros en Valley Power Systems en la ciudad de Industry, Ca
Donde puedo localizarlo para hacer un trabajo con usted
Estamos en Montebello, CA. Disculpa la respuesta tan tarde
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How much torque for the oil cooler module ?
44-47 lbs foot
Hey anyone know why the coolant goes down on the surge tank when you accelerate DD13? Than when you let go of the throttle the coolant rises back in the surge tank? It literally goes below min and than back to max when you let go of the petal... once a week we have to add half of gallon...No egr leak... Please help anything ideas helps
You may have an internal problem. Could also be the surge tank. Try having your mechanic pressurize the coolant system.
How many miles does the truck have? What year is the truck?
I have coolant loss a gallon a day no external leak is it possible that I have same issue or it might be leaking inside egr cooler?
I would look into the EGR cooler being the issue. Check the cross over hot pipe, remove and inspect it inside. It should be dry and soot should only be present.
If it is wet, then most likely you have and EGR cooler. Try checking this after you run the truck.
@@CarlosDieselElectric I really don’t wanna keep my def I want to delete it since I spent so much money and still I get codes and have to do regen can a delete solves the issue in case I have coolant leak in my egr?
@@adamotak5145 first verify if you have an EGR cooler leak by checking for coolant in the cross over hot pipe (easiest place to start).
Deleting the after treatment will not resolve possible EGR cooler issue.
i have the same problem on my 2018 cascadia. i changed the cooler 2 times from 2different mechanics. but still oil is going to coolant. what else could be wrong.
So if you replaced both seals and the oil cooler and you still have the problem. Then you may have a bad module.
@@CarlosDieselElectric OK THANK YOU I WILLL CHECK ON THAT.
@@CarlosDieselElectric hi i changed module as well but still having same issue. what else could be wrong please advice
Me to, I replaced the gasket and the oil cooler but it still leaks into the antifreeze. What can I try again
When we supposed to adjust valves. My freightliner 2019 has 300k
The interval Detroit recommends is at 100,000 miles, 250,000 miles and then at 500,000 miles.
I don't completely agree with this interval because I have seen valves need adjustment every 100,000 miles. So there are different factors that come into play when it comes to valve adjustment intervals.
@@CarlosDieselElectric when do you recommend to clean or get a new DPF . Is this also every 100k?. Thank you in advance. I wonder what's the difference between overhauled and I inframe or rebuild.
Where you shoot video from.
Do you mean what camera?
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Oil in coolant..oil cooler and o rings not leaking..what is next to find oil leak and repair it..
This could be something in the block, head gasket or cylinder head.
You will need to start digging deeper.
Can I reuse the engine oil
And coolant
I would not. Once I remove motor oil I always add new. I personally won’t run the risk of damaging the engine because of debris or something in the oil (or container) that was removed.
Coolant, if you have contaminated coolant then it gets dumped and go with new.
Not sure what years but in 2013 is best to delete water filter.
Now I know why Detroil deleted that coolant fitler on my 2016 Cascadia. I rather flush the coolant system every year than go thru this.
How much is it cost to replace
Parts are not that expensive, you will need to change the oil, flush the coolant system. That is where pricing will change depending on how dirty the system is. It may require multiple times before most of the oil is out of the cooling system.
It’s an e10 socket
My coolant in 2012 dd 13 going straight to oil pan
Sounds like a liner is leaking coolant directly into the oil system. You will need to remove the oil pan, apply some pressure to the cooling system and look for the leaking liner. This is most likely the issue.
@@CarlosDieselElectric recommended way of doing this without the oil pan
@tonybrown8692 in order to see which liner is leaking, this is the only way. Unless you have a cracked block or cylinder head issue. But coolant going directly into the oil most likely a liner seal that has let out. This will need to be fixed, not just by replacing the seal on the liner but finding the root cause.
@@CarlosDieselElectric will it make the oil pan gasket blow out
Something made my oil pan gasket blow. In no it wasn't ever overheating.
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How much u paid for this ?
Depends on how much oil has been introduced into the system. This requires coolant system to be flushed 4-5 times.
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this is a messing job i can do but rather not 😂
I agree this is definitely not fun. Requires a lot of work. Especially when you have to flush out the radiator system
That’s oilant not coolant 😂😂
that coolant oil module with the oil cooler is the stupidest thing ive seen, its not a good design if the cooler fails oil gets into the coolant and contaminants seals and other things
I agree, the seals are almost always the issue. I have not seen the oil cooler go bad. I usually just change them both.