How BANKS Engineered the best DURAMAX L5P TUNER
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- The Derringer is the most advanced inline tuner available for the 2017-2020 GM Duramax L5P, not only delivering 61hp and 112lb-ft but it's the only tuner that communicates with your truck's computer. Derringer is packed with features that will keep your truck safe and you happy. Watch as Gale Banks compares the Derringer to the competition. Order your Derringer L5P today at bankspower.com/l5p
Banks Derringer Tuner, includes iDash 1.8 DataMonster for use with 2017+ Chevy/GMC 2500 6.6L L5P
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Banks Derringer Tuner, includes iDash 1.8 Super Gauge for use with 2017+ Chevy/GMC 2500 6.6L L5P
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Banks Derringer Tuner, with power switch for use with 2017-18 Chevy/GMC 2500/3500 6.6L L5P
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Gale is a very unique man. To still be ahead of your time, consistantly for more than 5 decades... Its simply unheard of imho.
Gale, I for one am astounded and thankful for guys like you. I myself am a hotrodder at heart and know any vehicle can be made more efficient and put more power to pavement with the right tools and products. God has blessed you with the talent and skill to do things some men only dream of. I just wish that the fuel industry would produce a higher grade of diesel with higher cetane numbers. Companies that produce renewable diesel fuel have cetane #'s between 70-90. G-diesel produced by ARC in Nevada is right behind them, followed by B20, B5, Roadmaster XL Premium Diesel and Chevron.
Gale is a national treasure. Keep on trucking, sir.
In GOD we trust, all others must provide data. Thank you Gale Banks!
Ordered one for my Duramax. Glad I watched this.... could listen to these guys for hours
Well how does it perform now?
This video is 2 years old, but around 10-13:00 mins was the best information a newbie like me could hear. Plus I figured out why I’m refining a lot 🙃
479$?! That’s half price to now lmao
Just installed mine and wow its night and day difference 🤘🏼
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Great to hear! Just received mine on Friday. Just waiting on the new truck. Thanks!
Does it void the warranty? I just got a new 2020 GMC Denali 2500, its powerful enough, but i want more lol, i think my 08 Duramax with Efi Live by idaho rob would definitely smoke my new one up a hill pulling my 36FT fifthwheel.
Banks needs thanksgiving shirts that say “Lets bang this turkey” and use the banks B in the logo for the B in bang. I’d buy one!
Can’t wait for the derringer for the powerstroke , Mr Banks and his staff are awesome.
Mr. Gale you and your team are true Americans. I'll be only purchasing your products. Love your informative videos.
I'm sharing all these vids.
I just watched a 26 min add for banks and it was to short love it.
Gale is the best teacher!
Unlike his engines, Mr. Banks himself has NO FILTER!! The man is not only a genius, but a riot!! Lawd he's a mess!!Throwing expensive shit in the garbage...it's shit and expensive and belongs in the garbage! The man is a national treasure!
I would love to see a stock L5P with all your performance parts and call it the “Banks Edition” package
A safe, effective tuning device.
Dang it, Uncle Gale. It's almost 2 AM and I gotta go to work tomorrow! :-P
Gales a motorsports superstar
Dave Dudley and 6 days on the road. "Theres a flame from her stack and that smokes a blowen black as coal"
I was on hold about buying but great detail video will be purchasing now
After watching
When is the Derringer going to be available for the 2024 3500?
Love it. So is this effectivily a tuner of some sort that basically takes a stock L5P to maximum safe operating limits? If so....thats what I want!!! And how does this effect warranties.
Same with any programmer, unplug before you go to the dealer. They may not care but why risk it?
When is the 2024 GMC 2500HD CAI gonna be available? Its already August yall. Cmon.
Very interesting and accurate interpretation!
Actually I don't understand why these Mickey Mouse boxes are so popular in the US. Here in Germany these are mostly gone and have overall bad reputation.
All serious Tuner go into the ECU only and reprogram these! Example? VW 2l tdi is stock 150 HP, after 180- 190HP. OF COURSE MEASURED AT THE WHEELS!
der Jack, if you personally can figure out how to program & tune the un-crackable ECU/ECM on the new L5P Duramax you need to move the the US and collect a huge paycheck.
@@truckguyjoecan be done now lol. 5 years later though
I would love to see a derringer for the LML!
We're getting very close to releasing the Derringer for the LML! Stay tuned for the announcement. 👍
Gale you are a diesel genius! How will running this thing on the highest power setting affect drivetrain reliability/longevity if you're not really abusing the truck?
With AutoRate®, TransCommand®, and ActiveSafety®, the Derringer keeps an eye on dozens of key parameters to ensure your engine and trans last the long haul. Leave it on Level 6!
Level 6 towing?
Can't wait till the derringer for 18 f350 comes out
He dont like fords. He just likes Cummins and chevy
Are you guys planning on one of these for the Cummins 5.0?
Can you do a remap on the factory computer to see how underrated it actually is? Is there anything there along the same lines as a supertune?
So if you got a massive exhaust turned up the boost the other boxes would help to not run lean but you wouldn’t know what would be safe
Really need this for the titan xd for safe emissions tuning done right. You guys put the other guys to shame.
Informative , Entertaining, Realistic and Factual .. Im saying I like this Gail Banks guy and I think he might be on to something. He makes a guy who has never owned a diesel wanna run down to the dealership ans drop 80k ..
Do you do any personal consultation? I have an 02 Chevy duramax manual 6 speed . Would like to know what protocols you would suggest to increases power correctly. Thanks
What is your input for Duramax tuners? They are now using HP tuners mpvi3 switch on the fly.
Ordered mine on Thursday after watching the install video. Can't wait to get it and install it. Funny because i don't haul any more than 1500lbs...i just want a fun truck!
Please let us know how you like it!
Banks Power I just finished my install and have driven it around for about 20 miles. I am extremely pleased with the linear power delivery and smoothness of it. I purchased the kit with just the switch as I did not want any extra gauges showing in my truck, I actually flipped the switch to sport and tied it up in the fuse panel with the extra wiring because I will not take it off of that. I would say the toughest part of the install was getting the wiring into the cab because that boot is very thick. For anybody wanting this I highly recommend it just be careful of the brittle GM connectors because they will break.
Watch Gale Banks for what not to buy!
If the Derringer doesn't throw a code after a voltage failure, how do you know it was a voltage failure?
Hope there will be one for the 3.0L duramax. Mr. BANKS what do you think of how Gm has designed this new 3.0L?
The Derringer for the LM2 is currently in development alongside a few other Derringer products like the Ram 6.7L Cummins and the Jeep EcoDiesel. Like any company, we have a staggered rollout period for new products, with the Derringer, we are going to be releasing the Heavy duty tuning for the Cummins and the Power Stroke engines first in the spring. After these are complete, we plan on rolling out the light-duty Derringer tuning like the Ram/Jeep EcoDiesel and LM2 Duramax Derringer tuners.
Gale should get a 7.3 as a project to show how much gains he can get! Lol
Just ordered mine 🤤 for a L5P
How about fuel mileage? How does the Derringer affect fuel mileage?Thank you!
Jeff, we're not making any MPG claims.
Having only run it through the weekend, it seems to be about the same mileage running on the interstate ~80mph in plus mode IF you can keep your foot out of it. The power is much better, but simple physics tells you it takes more energy to accelerate something more quickly. You're gonna burn more gas, and smile while you do it.
2013 f150 3.5 Ecoboost
What does it mean when the box turns off? I’m a little unclear if this is normal if I add a turner or is this just to be expected
I just installed mine last week. It's got a simple toggle switch to select off, plus, and sport mode. That's one way the box "turns off" off, but I believe they point they were making in the video is that the competitive boxes corrupt the factory ECU such that it doesn't function properly if the tuner suffers a power failure or other malfunction. The Derringer is piggybacked on the existing ECU, but doesn't actually corrupt the programming. So if it fails or malfunctions, the factory ECU and programming is right there to run the motor as well as it ever did.
Does that address what you're asking?
Hey Gale I'm impressed with the Derringer and the HP but what kind of fule economy do you get with the 6.7 ?
Mileage can vary depending on the trucks environment and other modifications. Some customers have reported between 1-3 mpg increases.
Damn I’ve got the stealth don’t I feel dumb
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Scary! Can’t trust any companies I guess however gale has his facts and numbers to trust him and banks
Are you guys gonna build a version for the 2016 (LML) Duramax?
Not only are we designing a Derringer for the LML, it's scheduled for release this August! 👍
Any model for ford ranger T6 in your inventory ??
As quoted from Banks below: "Yes, Gale's 2017 Ram 2500 has been the subject of 100+ hours of R&D on the new Derringer inline tuner. ETA is toward end of summer or early fall."
Today is 29 December 2018 and still no release of the Derringer for the 2017 Cummins. Please just admit that you aren't going to produce one.
We just need to get rid of the EPA and CARB emissions regulations and get better emissions through tuning, not by adding things onto an engine and choking it down.
When you open your eyes to it not being about "emissions" and more about "using more fuel" you slowly realize the issue. There are many other systems that don't require fuel dumped into the exhaust that work far better, yet they have been using these systems for 10 years now. Tuning = Cleaner emissions every time. Dpf = more gallons of fuel burned over the life of a vehicle. Making emssions devices on vehicles removal a crime is a crime in itself. The government does not have the authority to tell me what to do with my personal property after I own it.
The problem lies with those who like to "Roll coal". That's where all the emissions stuff started. Just to make the problem worse Volkswagen decided to exacerbate the problem by using illegal emission defeating systems to pass smog checks. Then people started to sell delete systems for "Off-road use only" and you are wondering why all this stuff is here? Well the problem is all in the "CZcams Certified Mechanics" that are out there. This is no different then the 60's and 70's with gas engines. It's just a different fuel medium. Biggest thing to remember when tuning your diesel is this. Black smoke is power that you can see but can't use. It's amazing how much of an effort someone like Gale goes through to give you a powerful diesel without killing your investment.
ask any diesel guy if you are going to make more power with no smoke or black smoke, the answer is more smoke because the less smoke the higher the air/fuel ratio, less potential energy, less power. The amount of time someone rolls coal vs. normal driving where there isn't smoke rolling out is so small, and when you are accelerating when you want the most power to get up to speed. Everyone complains about how slow trucks accelerate, how often do you see old semis (no emissions) blowing smoke driving down the highway or interstate, not many, when they accelerate they are trying to get up to speed you choke those down with emission it just slows them down. Also people complain about how expensive products are becoming, one reason is because of the increased cost to purchase and maintain these emissions engines used to transport goods.
Is banks going to work on something for the 3.0L duramax??
Yes, we do have plans to work on the 3.0L Duramax, but that will come down the line. Right now, we have no eta.
When will this be coming out for titan diesel? Or do you guys not plan on making anything for them?
We have plans to make new products for the Titan diesel, but we have no ETA yet.
@@bankspower its the one thing that I've been waiting for to put on my XD because i don't want to delete it but would like the safe power for hauling.
Nesto LIAM That’d be like polishing deck chairs on the Titanic, wouldn’t it?
Any chance this will be available for the 2.8L Duramax?
Yes, this is a possibility. Our product development for the 2.8Lduramax will start sometime in the fall or winter. Right now we are laser focused on our current projects for the 6.7L Cummins, 6.7L Powerstroke, & 6.6L Duramax.
Wish you guys would make this for the titan xd diesel. I'm sure yoy would have lots of buyers.
It's on the R&D list. But no ETA just yet.
Cool. Looking forward to it and the ram air for the intake for the titan.
Do you have plans of making one for the late model Ram cummins? And if so is there an ETA?
Yes, Gale's 2017 Ram 2500 has been the subject of 100+ hours of R&D on the new Derringer inline tuner. ETA is toward end of summer or early fall.
Banks Power Great! Can’t wait to get one thanks for the quick response.
It's October. Where's the Cummins 6.7 version?
Sad this thing wasn't created for the Titan XD. Really would have made it better.
What is the bom cost on the Derringer electronics?
Derringer contains electronics worth at least 7X more than what you'll find in the Dr. Performance box. But we're not knocking the quality of the parts. Rather than pointing out the price of the electronics, it may have been better to point out the lack of electronics. You're paying roughly $600 for a box that does very little.
Do they make one for the 15 cummings for Ram?
The Cummings, huh?
When is the 2017+ ford powerstroke one coming out?
We're looking at a Feb 2019 launch for the Ford 6.7L.
Banks Power I can wait for that. Can you give us any idea on hp/tq or anything along those lines?
@@bankspower will the derringer for the 6.7 powerstroke remove the speed limiter?
@@aaronnladronka8848 No. You'd have to overwrite the ECU which the Derringer does not do.
Banks Power any luck yet for the 6.7? It’s March!!
So does you're mpg stay about the same??
While many Derringer owners see a slight gain in fuel economy, we haven't made any official claims of fuel economy gains. This is mainly because the tuner was designed to add horsepower. To do that, we command fuel and boost to maintain as close to stock AFR as possible. The bottom line, if you drive conservatively, you'll likely see a small gain in MPG. If you drive more aggressively, you'll likely see a slight decrease in fuel economy.
What about EFI live?
EFI Live is not available for the L5P. And even if it was, it would void your warranty.
okay more HP and Torque, what about more MPG?
Making more power requires more air and more fuel. To give you more MPG, you'd have to take some of that fuel away, which means less power.
Does the derringer work with factory warranty or is going to void it just as other programmers do?
The Derringer is not a programmer. It does not alter the ECU in any way. It's an inline tuner. When you remove it, it leaves no footprint.
pretty much, what they're saying is if you take it out before taking it to Gm. They will never know the difference lol
Correct!
You’re Derringer is $869 with the gauge in the memory chip
Does the derringer stiffen the shift in the transmission?
No, the Derringer does not stiffen the shift of the transmission. The Derringer intercepts MAP and FRP signals.
Will this ruin my warranty
The Derringer is an inline tuner. It does not alter the truck’s ECM in any way, unlike a flash tuner that permanently alters the truck’s ECM. Treat the Derringer as you would with altering the truck’s suspension. Most dealerships understand accessories like upgraded suspension systems are harmless, however, some dealers are not as forgiving. Always check with your service advisor prior to dropping off your truck. Are they ok with aftermarket accessories? When in doubt, simply remove the Derringer and engine harness. It takes less than 10 minutes. After removal its presence is undetectable.
open the stealth module, the one that connects to the injector harness.
We did. And we showed internals.
This one. It connects to the injector harness not the fuel rail pressure sensor.
www.stealthmodules.com/products/ram-cummins-6-7l-13-18
Not sure what you're trying to point out. The Stealth box for the Cummins intercepts the fuel rail pressure sensor. It is not connected to the ECU.
Banks Power the module you tested connects to the fuel pressure sensor, two or 3 wires. the module I am pointing out connects DIRECTLY TO THE injector harness. the harness that controls the fuel injectors. each connector connects to 3 injectors. 6 wires for the front bank and 6 for the rear bank, 12 for the injectors. look at the photos on the web site, or lookup a video of the install. you will see that they disconnect the injector harness, NOT the fuel rail pressure sensor, the kit I'm showing has nothing to do with the F.R.P sensor. look carefully and you will see it. the kit has 4(6 pin) weather pack connectors, front and rear bank. front in/out & rear in/out. hope that clarifies the question. LMK. thanks
These modules are different! If you going to be dishonest,then just say it. But don't pretend they are the same. You now have two examples of what I am talking about. The stealth module, plugs in line with the injection harness, the other module does something completely different.
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I want Gale to explain why vehicle manufacturers don’t tune their diesels for optimum fuel economy. Why do you need a programmer or tuner to get decent mileage out of modern trucks and still get better performance
Simple... The EPA
How about developing a tuner that develops fuel economy instead of unneeded #truckbro power?
Maximizing fuel economy is a very challenging task. The best way to accomplish it is to lean out the air-fuel ratio. Adding a Banks Ram-Air will allow the truck to command more boost and improve the AFR. Now, getting rid of the #truckbro power, that's a whole 'nother story. 🤣
@@bankspower whats an banks ram air
Can someone please tell me how is it automatics are better? All this could have been avoided with a pedal and shifter
Automatic is constant power thru shifting manual releases power every time that clutch is pressed which means the turbo also blows off rather then staying spulled up thru shifts when modifying this is a major advantage
L5p is cracked and can get emmisions intact custom tuning so you might as well get that over a box
Are you aware of how much that option costs? Not everyone wants to spend that coin and have no chance at retaining warranty. C’mon now.
Yeah for someone wanting a little more power the derringer is great but to say it's the best isn't true just a better option out there for more money but the guys that want big power tend to shell out the money
Holy crap, my cheapass OBD2 ebay scanner dongle gives me more info than all that overpriced crap! Too bad I don't have a Duramax... yet. ;-)
Alright Gale you don't have to BS us like you are doing around the 9:00 mark. We're not drag racing most of the time and I don't remember the last time I took my truck from 0-90mph or even 0-60 at WOT. Most of us get on our trucks every once in a while but rarely to WOT. You are better than that sort of crap and we are smarter than to buy that kind of BS.
There are plenty of use cases where guys are at wide open throttle and need more power. Take for example our customer Walter who lives above Denver. When he pulls his 40' fifth wheel up the grade at high altitude, he's at wide open throttle because of the lack of oxygen. Well, that was until he bought the Derringer. Now he has some headroom. Or, how about when you're towing and you're trying to pass a semi truck? Here's what we suggest to those that don't believe us. Join the Banks Derringer Owners' Facebook group. There are 400+ members who can give you plenty of real-world experience. Poll them randomly and ask if they ever drive WOT. You'll be amazed. Side note, the page is run by owners, not us. Finally, you'll want to note that the Derringer adds power beginning at 35% throttle. It's not all top-end power as it was when we released this video.
I'll agree with you there but that's not what the video illustrated. It just showed a WOT run from 0-90 mph. Now when towing something heavy up a heavy grade I can understand the need for WOT but then for that example you shouldn't be shifting through multiple gears. Don't get me wrong I like Banks Power I just thought that particular part of the video was outside the realm of normal driving. If you reread my comment I mentioned the 0-90 mph run and that was part I had an issue with. The idea of driving an unladen truck at WOT. I know that Banks Power can load their dyno to simulate pulling a loaded trailer up a grade and if that had been the example, like later in the video when demonstrating what happens when power is lost, I would not have had an issue. Like I said earlier Gale is better than that sort of cheap marketing ploy. I have a ton of respect for Gale Banks and I am planning on buying some Banks products for my 2008 Dodge 6.7 Cummins.
You obviously don't live where I live. Every diesel truck around here is racing all over the place at wot, belching soot out the exhaust at levels that would give Al Gore an anurism, while yelling "ROLL COAL!!!" out the window every 5 seconds.
I'm only slightly exaggerating.
Plenty of people drive at wot just because they can. They enjoy it. They never use their trucks to tow or work, they use their trucks to go fast and make smoke and do burnouts on 40in tires, or 33in tires on 28in wheels.
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But..
But but..
"ROLL COAL!!! I HAZ DEEZEL! I HAZ 2 ROLLL KOOOLLL BKUZ SMOKS R KUUL!!!"
Says all the deisel guys with stacks and lift with 10in blocks under the leaf springs.
I’ll take the boxes you tossed in the garbage.....
Apparently, you missed the whole point of the video. Haha.