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I would definitely give this title to Prost. Especially because all of them were in their prime except Lauda.
And that post prime Lauda was still good enough to edge him to a world title. Prost was a different animal.
Prost teammates were Watson, Arnoux, Cheever, Lauda, K. Rosberg, Johansson, Senna, Mansell, Alesi and Hill.
@@marvinblackheart623 that’s an insane line up
@@hamirthapar6788 I think that lauda's most impressive title
Yeah senna was crazy competitive 😅😅
Alain Prost might be the most under appreciated multiple time F1 world champion.
Agreed. It's because of Senna's mythical aura. Many see Prost as the boring asshole when really he seems like a nice guy and was the biggest brain on track along with Lauda. He was in the fight for the title constantly, even when his car was lesser like in 1990. In 1982 with Renault, had reliability just been "okay" he would have been champion aswell. Legend
@@hugolouessard3914 I have him as the 3rd greatest.
@@hugolouessard3914 Prost had a faster car in 1990, maybe you're confusing it with 1991, because he himself the 1990 ferrari was the best car of the field
*why can't there be saturday races in F2 or F3 cars and regular races on sunday ?
why does every year have to be what car is the fastest and never also get to find out who is the fastest ????*
With the modern point systems he is a 7 time World champion
I definitely think Fernando and Lewis were absolutely intense. Fernando probably developed his team-mate killing powers in the aftermath of the 2007 battle. In turn, Lewis's desire to be number one without question or pause probably came from that battle.
If it wasn’t for Lewis Hamilton, Fernando would arguably be a 4x world champion at the very least
@@millionn18 If Alonso is just 2 time world champion is only because of his career decisions and because of Ferrari being unable to give him cars which weren't half a second slower than Red Bull at best.
Until 2014 and Mercedes' rocketships year after year, everyone on the paddock agreed on Alonso being the best driver on the grid. Hamilton wasn't even in the conversation. Lewis has nothing to do with Alonso being just 2 time world champion but the cars Alonso drove during his prime.
As Adrian Newey said, his only regret in F1 is not having worked with Alonso. He explained in his book that him and Horner met with Alonso and his manager several times but Alonso always ended up declining their offers hoping a championship with Ferrari.
Get back in the attic!
Oi oi Laws
@@amendiluze He said he'd like to have worked with Hamilton and Alonso both
@@amendiluzethis is a lot of copium for a driver who won 2 straight titles against Schumacher to get defeated by the rookie Hamilton. Must hurt. It wouldn’t hurt me tho, Alonso is still one of the all time greats.
Alain Prost. Here's why:
1980 - John Watson, a good benchmark for a rookie driver, guy who wasn't exactly a GOAT material but was still a top class driver;
1981-1982 - Rene Arnoux, top of the midfield driver and another good benchmark driver;
1983 - Cheever, probably the weakest of all Prost's teammates, still a high midfield driver at the time;
1984-1985 - Lauda, enough said;
1986 - Rosberg, wasn't at his peak anymore but still wasn't someone that could be easily written off;
1987 - Johansson, basically Nick Heidfeld of the 1980s, Prost's second weakest teammate but still far from slouch;
1988-1989 - Senna, enough said;
1990 - Mansell, enough said;
1991 - Alesi, rising star of the period and was considered championship winning material by many (that didn't age well);
1993 - Hill, guy who managed to jump into top car in his second season and perform like a beast.
Only teammates Prost lost to were Watson, Lauda (once) and Senna (once). In case of former, he was a rookie that year so it can be "excused". In case of latter two, however, both were champions and Prost both times finished 2nd in the championship with only few points behind them.
Professor deserves a lot more appreciation.
Hey man I’m not exactly a maestro on 80’s drivers, who would you say be the equivalent of Watson, Alesi, Johanssen, and Arnoux in the modern F1 grid?
Prost is the 3rd greatest in my slightly objective opinion.
@@ap0llo.0ne51 OK, let's go:
Watson = Sainz (high class driver, not exactly top caliber but definitely up there)
Alesi = Piastri (young hotshot that impressed everyone in his rookie season, set up high expectations for future)
Johansson = Norris (fast and reliable driver, but that first win just keeps evading him)
Arnoux = Perez (good midfield driver, couldn't quite pull it off in top machinery)
*why can't there be saturday races in F2 or F3 cars and regular races on sunday ?
why does every year have to be what car is the fastest and never also get to find out who is the fastest ????*
Arnoux the same calibre as Watson is ridiculous. Watson was way ahead of Arnoux. Watson was basically a world champion that never was, had significantly stronger race craft and was only let down by the quality of his machinery. Arnoux was a midfield driver who just happened to find himself in a top car twice. Watson beat Lauda in 2/3 seasons as team mates
Shoutout to Martin Brudle. Had both Schumacher and Senna as teammates
Brundle never had Senna as a teammate in F1 (they were title rivals in British F3 in 1983 though). He did have Mika Hakkinen though at McLaren in 1994. And some other solid teammates as well during his career in Stefan Bellof (highly-rated talent sadly taken far too soon), Mark Blundell, Olivier Panis and Rubens Barrichello. And of course, Schumacher at Benetton in '92.
I've been watching F1 since 1985.
I can't remember Senna and Brundle in the same car either
And now we have Lewis jumping into a Ferrari to go up against leclerc. Now that's balls right there 😅
Hamilton and Prost comes immediatly in my mind for this question
Alan Prost , hands down.
I'd argue it is not only about equal machinery but more importantly about mental strength.
why can't there be saturday races in F2 or F3 cars and regular races on sunday ?
why does every year have to be what car is the fastest and never also get to find out who is the fastest ????
Ahh yes, finally; people giving Prost the credit he deserves.
Prost would have 7 titles if we use the modern points system
I agree button alonso pairing is a banger of a lineup, becuase alonso is aggressive and button is measured
why can't there be saturday races in F2 or F3 cars and regular races on sunday ?
why does every year have to be what car is the fastest and never also get to find out who is the fastest ????
Prost is actually the GOAT. Disgustingly underrated.
Frankly, I say that we have a herd of GOATs lol. How do you honestly choose between Fangio, Clark, Stewart, Lauda, Senna, Prost, Schumacher, Hamilton, Alonso and Verstappen?
(And possibly more. I'm not a fan of Piquet, never really rated him despite his obvious success, and though I naturally leaned towards Mansell when he was fighting for a championship, he's not in my particular herd. To others, both would be in it. Horses for courses and all that. Neither would I argue about including Graham Hill - but then I've always been an unashamed Damon fangirl - and Mario Andretti.)
The listed 10 were/are all outstanding, and if we could get a time machine, put them in identical cars - say at the peak of their powers (though we'd have to go forward in time to work out when that will be for Max lol) - I reckon we could have a full season with all fighting for the championship throughout. I wouldn't even want to vaguely speculate as to who'd become the winner.
*why can't there be saturday races in F2 or F3 cars and regular races on sunday ?
why does every year have to be what car is the fastest and never also get to find out who is the fastest ????*
That's sure this guy is amazing, 51 wins with this level of competition and pooor car reliability is just amazing
There can’t be a goat in F1
He definitely isn't. Everyone In this comment section is saying how amazing he is
At the start of the video you mention that nobody has made a video of who had the tougher teammates throughout their career but I think that mr v’s garage did a pretty good job on this topic with his video where he was giving an elo to every driver that has raced in f1.
Not really the same thing is it though, that's like comparing the best tennis doubles teams vs ranking every tennis player
@@mitchhifi9192 I thought that in both videos they were comparing the driver with their teammates, but while the other considered the strength of the drivers in the time they were teammates, Aldas also considered the legacy that they will achieve even after they were no longer teammates
@@omuuboi That the meaning of 'inflated stat' e.g., a driver gets much higher ratings because of having either mediocre or inexperienced teammates for longer than a decent one and having dominant cars over other top 5 drivers who drove average cars at the same times.
@@omuuboi yeah but it’s still impressive that someone tried to make an elo rating for f1
I haven't actually seen that video yet and it didn't pop up during my research so I'll definitely check it out, thanks!
Im a Max fan but the move Lewis just made shows the massive balls he still has
and 2023 proved all the Lewis doubters (including myself) extremelly wrong
Nico Rosberg. Teammates with 7 time WC Schumacher and 7 time WC Hamilton
Schumacher was way past his prime at that point, though.
rosberg won against a falling Schumacher and mostly lost to lewis tho
@@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158 Nope MSC came in saying he was going to compete for titles and wins. He couldn't adapt to an understeer until 2012 thats all. The argument of prime doesn't work then we have guys like Fangio, Alonso and even Prost doing what they did and Alonso still doing.
@@afallenworld1581 Bro, I can also say that I'm king of the world, that doesn't mean that I'm one.
Schumacher was past his prime. He was out of F1 for 3 years and it showed. As for those guys you mentioned - Fangio was racing in a completely different era of F1 when drivers under 40 were considered young, Prost retired at age of 38 and Alonso is clinically insane and is an exception, not the rule.
@shauwengchee uhm Schumacher was past his prime and Hamilton having pu "failure" in Malaysia basically sealed the deal🙄
You'll never see Verstappen here lol
I knew it was going to be A Prost, I never thought he was underrated by anyone but I always had it in my head that he could have achieved so much more. Great video, thanks
Prost def doesn't get enough respect. The Senna documentary did a hack job on his reputation
Yeah it definitely didn’t make me particularly like the guy but I respect the hell out of Prost
Alonso could have been mentioned, as like Jenson, he also had 3 champions as teammates. Raikkonen, Hamilton, Button
Alonso had rookie Ham that he should’ve beat tho esp after winning the 2 previous championships
@@nateflores8160 Well he fight again Hamilton & team this is a plus like WC hehehehehe
actally 4 he had villeneuve too
Excellent video, this has to be the best out here right now, it's so obvious you are a true F1 fan and you have obviously done your research. Stay blessed and keep them coming. 💯👍🏽🇯🇲
Lewis stepping into Ferrari is a move that would make Prost proud
Alain prost has to be one of the most underrated f1 drivers ever. He is not talked about enough! He is in similar bracket to the likes of vettel, vertsappen, senna and schumacher!
Great video. Nice rundown. Good job Aldas
14:30 watching this after a week when Lewis is going to Ferrari, which is Leclerc's team effectively :))))
Which could retroactively increase the number to 5 if both George and Charles win a title at some point
Prost vs Senna was one of the most intense team rivalries I can ever remember in F1. Hamilton vs Alonso was a close second. Although if you look at it, Rosberg has had the two most successful drivers in F1 as team mates so you could argue he’s had the hardest team mates.
Prost
Lauda
Alonso
Fun fact : alonso had kimi, lewis, button, massa, trulli
This is absolutely top notch aldas! 👏 👏 👏
Great video Aldas! This should be brought to Alan’s attention as he even recently has stated that he is a vastly underrated 🏁 I think he’d appreciate your informed opinion that shows his incredible accomplishments!
i’d wna say damon hill because he was unfortunate enough to be teammates to both ayrton senna and alain prost back to back
But Senna was his teammate for just 4 races. If anything, Damon got lucky (in the worst possible way).
fair enough, but he was consistently a half a second to one second off him, i imagine mentally it must have been really tough@@whyareyoureadingmynickname8158
Lol, Damon was lucky to be put into those Newey rocketships he never deserved.
Hamilton with a Bottas level teammate in 07 and ‘16 and then a capable race director in ‘21 and he would be a 10 time champion.
i hate how often people forgets how great Alain was he was better than Senna he beat the best driver (for me) of the 70' Lauda and was highest win driver when he retired
For me Sir Lewis Hamilton and Alain Prost are the only two who can claim this honour. Especially now with the news that Hamilton is entering Ferrari in 2025, up against Charles Leclerc in his own team. No fear in that man, he is built different.
Excellent B reel my friend, it makes all the difference
Good list! It brought back some fond memories. Prost was a BEAST! His battles with Senna are legendary.
Lance Stroll has had some pretty hard teammates let's be honest, albeit most past their prime
This is so well done.
Lewis has beat 3 WDC teammates in equal machinery, Prost has beat 5 WDC teammates in equal.
Those two (imo) have had the strongest WDC teammates, and they've both beat them all in equal machinery. 🐐 x 🐐
Hamilton had amazing performances against all his teammates and showed he is one of the goats.
But he lost in 2016 a WC to his teammate Rosberg. He lost in 2011 to his teammate Button and was outscored by Jenson overall in their 3 years together. And couldn't beat Alonso in 2007 even with McLaren sabotaging Fernando. In fact, Alonso beat Hamilton in 10 out of the 17 GPs in 2007.
That's why I can't consider him the goat. But he is one of the greatest for sure. Top 5 I'd say.
@@amendiluzeAlonso was not sabotaged. Hamilton beat him as shown by count back. Agreed on Rosberg and Button though
@@tombardsley3081 Ron Dennis: "we are racing Fernando".
FIA: "stewards to guard over Alonso's car and equality at McLaren after Alonso's irregular tyre pressure at chinese GP".
Come on...
@@amendiluze racing Fernando after Fernando made his own mistakes and was throwing his toys out of the pram because a rookie Hamilton dared to challenge him. Alonso was favoured at the start of the season compared to Hamilton so you can't sit there and say Hamilton was favoured
you are deceiving yourself.
Alonso asked the team to put more fuel in LH. They did until Canada.
He didn't allow he see his telemetry data why having access to lH.
He was bribing engineers to come to his corner from LH
Lastly, he still had to blackmail the team when nothing worked
Now please who is the first driver according to this data
@@amendiluze
that's why for me prost is maybe the GOAT, this guy is insane. Put him in a era of reliable car and number 2 teamates and this guy will be 7 or 8 times world champion and maybe have more than 100 wins too
JB is criminally underrated and I used to be one of the people criminally underrating him, until I went back and watched the 2003-2020 seasons multiple times and watching the 2005-2013 seasons at least 10 times. Button’s biggest weakness is that he tended to lose motivation when the car sucked. It’s why he sometimes looked quite average when he was Barrichello’s teammate at Honda. Button seemed over it and Barrichello was trying really hard.
A VIP fact regarding the famous 2007 Alonso/Hamilton points tie is that Lewis got thousands-and-thousands of miles worth of testing in the MP4-22 vs Alonso only got a fraction as much time. I believe all the super stars of the sport have shown that you’re just as fast in your rookie season as you are a few seasons later with the main difference being that you a develop a little better race craft and maybe learn how to communicate better with the engineers.
Very true. Alain Prost was a beast back in the day.
He was unlucky that the point scoring system didnt favour consitent drivers.
Meaning drivers who crashed, their point losses didnt count as much.
Only Prost and Hamilton.
This is why my list of greatest
0. Jim Clark
1. Hamilton
2. Alan Prost
3. Schumacher
4. Fangio
5. Senna
6. Jackie Stewart
7. Lauda
8. Alonso
9. Vettel
10. Verstappen
Mansell, Piquer etc .
From here on, I don't mind who you think
Alonso did have talented teammates also, LH, Kimi and Button
Lewis teammates have a combined wins of about 87wins and he had all of them in their prime years. Lewis is by far one of the greatest to enter F1
How is vettel so low? hes had webber and kimi as his teammates
@@mesh8349Very high peak but high lows also.
@@mesh8349 Although Vettel 2015 was extremely underrated in my opinion, but his losing immediately when in an uncomfortable situation where a teammate is exactly placed below him makes slightly lower e.g Riccardo and Leclerc.
As soon as I saw this video on my feed I immediately thought of Prost, other than René Arnoux, iirc every single one of his teammates have been champions, and fierce competitors as well.
Awesomely interesting video
Not a Ham fan, but now with Leclerc, what a list. Alain is an absolute beast new school fans don’t understand. He’s also nearly an additional 4 titles too. Anyway, Mansell’s teammate list is insane too. Piquet got lucky against Mansell. A tire explosion and a broken leg basically cost him two titles.
Something about Button that often goes overlooked imo is his super smooth driving style and Prost-style approach to race weekends. Mechanical DNFs aren't just a matter of bad luck, it shouldn't be surprising that the driver with the gentler touch had far fewer breakdowns in those tissue delicate Mclarens and thus was able to match Lewis' points haul in 2010 and 2012, and beat Lewis and Fernando one year each, despite "lacking pace". Intuitively knowing the limits of a car absolutely is a skill.
Great video. As for Prost being a hypothetic 8 time world champ with number 2 teammates...
he would be a 7 time world champ if modern points system was used back then. Also Alonso would have beaten Hamilton in 2007. In general, thinking about how much the points system influenced F1's history, it would be an interesting topic for a video. Maybe you could try to make it more optimal or look into giving out points further down the grid. Just an idea tho.
I kinda feel we are sleeping on Prost.
Alain Prost
excelent video. Would be genuinly interesting to see what happens when and if Max Verstapphen comes up against a title winning teammate in F1, my guess is he would be able to be them but would love to find out
absolutely, great posting - and great analysis about Lews - if lewis had bottas level teammates would have won against button and rosberg. Plus, if Verstappen didn't have Checo as a teammate (or if Lewis had a Checo level driver - bottas is greater than checo), for sure the 2021 season would have been closer.
I only know of one other person to have discussed this (Mr V's Garage) so I 100% agree this is an under-discussed topic.
Edit: It is mathematically possible to beat the 0.5 point record for closest championship - but it has to be a win by countback.
why can't there be saturday races in F2 or F3 cars and regular races on sunday ?
why does every year have to be what car is the fastest and never also get to find out who is the fastest ????
Aldas claims he did research and couldnt find a video on the subject, but if he actually did he would of come across Mr V's Garage video from months ago titled "I watched EVERY SEASON of F1 and worked out the GOAT is..." that has 125k views about this very topic where he actually put in the work.
This^^^
Claiming your the first whenever someone else has done a much more thorough job is a bit foolish innit
Aldas does fantastic work and gives commentary in such a way that makes the content very accessible. I’m a big fan!
However, we also have done some analysis on this-others are definitely thinking about this!
Guess it means it’s an interesting topic of discussion
Cheers!
it doesnt only discuss the hardest teammates and if u dont watch the video u wont know he talked abt that
@@rodsitamara you don't have to watch the video to know because in the very first line of the description it says "The only true way to compare F1 drivers is to see who beat who in equal machinery - right?
So that's what I did, I made a chart of EVERY pair of teammates in F1"
A small correction, at the time of his 4th championship, Prost was still behind Fangio who already had 5 championships.
I really think the Vetel Webber combination should have a least got a mention - as per the title who had the hardest team mates
Prost's run of quality team mates was absolutely insane, only LH is in anything like the same bracket.
I cannot hear "equal machinery" without giggle
This is what I mean. Both Senna and Prost could have had over 5 WDCs if it weren’t for each other basically
Mansell - team mates with Andretti, de Angelis (could have been champion had he survived), Rosberg, Piquet, Prost, Hill, Hakkinen, and behind all them Patrese and Berger who both won multiple races. He avoided having equal partners over the second half of his career after being on the receiving end of second best treatment compared to Piquet and Prost - 80s and early 90s teams often put more resources into the No.1 car and driver and the second one broke down a lot more often.
Prost had number one status against virtually all team mates, and McLaren were basically the only team of that era that managed to run two equally good cars.
Prost never once had number 1 status. He did however have number 2 status to Lauda in 1984
Senna and Prost in the mp4/4 is definitely valid
Very good video
If two drivers can enter the last race of the year level on points, its not impossible for their to be a half point difference in the final drivers standings. It is exceedingly unlikely with every race they add to the calendar but not impossible.
its a very commonly debated thing, not sure where you researched if you didnt find any mentions of it
Mick Schumacher 100%, imagine having to be Mazepins teammate 💀
0:41 i remember a more recent version of this
"Literally no one has been asking"
Mr V's Garage would like to have a word.
Haven't watched yet but first thought was Alain Prost, going up against the likes of Lauda, Senna, Mansell and Hill throughout his career. Then i thought a bit longer and there's a couple of Ferrari Brazilians who come to mind. Felipe Massa had to deal with Schumacher, then Raikkonen, then Alonso all in a row, although he did have Stroll at the end go ease him out. Barrichello also had Schumacher for five of his seven world titles, and then Button for his one too. Is Barrichello the best number two driver of all time? Statistically he might just be. Would be an interesting topic for a video I think.
To be fair, Damon was only ever as good as he was because Bob Mortimer gave him a Scotch Egg at the British GP.
Alain Prost, the man who threatens Lionel Messi in the conversation of The GOAT of Sports, despite him already retired three decades earlier.
I think it's still mathematically possible to repeat championship win by 0.5 points (in case for some race only half points awarded) and given that total points tallies are higher now, that would atguably be even closer contest than the one between Prost and Lauda
had the 2021 season panned out differently in some races with the Spa farce still awarding half points it's very possible we might have been able to see the 0.5 points gap at the end
The analysis is very interesting Indeed, but the dynamics have changed since the late 1990's. Champions since that Time were able to make the team around Them, like Schumacher with Ferrari, Alonso with Renault, Vettel with Redbull, Hamilton with Mercedes ans Verstappen with Redbull.
Aldo another thing, all these drivers I just mentionned went against great drivers who had themselves the team very much behind them.
Schumacher vs Hakkinen 2000 and Raikkonen 2003
Alonso vs Raikkonen 2005 and Schumacher 2006
Vettel vs Alonso 2010 and 2012
Hamilton vs Vettel 2017 and 2018
Verstappen vs Hamilton 2021 (although I hope for him there is more to come)
Is this Gordon Ramsay’s son?
He tries to low-key bout it
I have seen this topic been discussed before but mainly in comment sections etc.
nigel is a briliant driver, his major downfall was his car didn't work most of the time
but when it worked
he did well
13:10 Spa 2021 would like to have a word with you!
Mr V's garage has a great video on the matter
I think Hamilton has, 3 world championship team mates and Russell who dominated the junior ranks but he can still go toe to toe with in his late 30s!
It's funny how people claim Hamilton had 3 champions as teammates...
When one of them became a champion AS HIS TEAMMATE on a field where the only thing he had to beat was the other side of the garage.
Prost for me had the hardest teammates, and IMO is the best performer against them in the history of the sport. He gets shadowed by Senna's brilliance, but Prost IMO was just as good or arguably better than him. In 1988, if not for the ridiculous points system where only the best 10 or 11 finishes counted, Prost would've actually beat Senna. Prost was a very consistent driver, not as fast as Senna over 1 lap, but had race pace and was less mistake prone than Senna.
I’ve always said that Lewis and Prost are the two greatest formula 1 drivers of all time. This video adds more proof! Thanks Aldas!
To me it's Prost but I think Kimi Raikkonen deserved a mention
Senna seem like he should be up there but if it's very little I still think it counts even if little was preformed Senna has race with at least 3 world champions. even though his teammates were young in his carrier he really pushed the limit to be better than everybody although Damon Hill's career with Senna was short it was something he was building up to maybe challenge Senna for the title if he lived.
I would say it's a tie up between Prost and Hamilton. Prost had more world champion teammates, but he did lost convincingly to Senna (I say convincingly despite popular belief saying that it was tight, all you need to know is their h2h stats, and the fact that Prost ran away from Senna) and most of his world champions teammate have passed their primes.
Hamilton have slightly less world champion teammates, but they are all in their prime age. Moreover, one of them was the absolute all time legend Fernando Alonso, and Hamilton beat him in his rookie season. People can discredit Hamilton all they want, but having the pace to put him in the position to beat an all time legend in his rookie season is a feat that is most likely never repeated again. Lastly, Hamilton have never been beaten convincingly so far. Alonso was his closest match, and even then it was against rookie Hamilton. Not a big fan of Hamilton, but he definitely is the best driver since Senna.
Senna didn't beat Prost comprehensivly. Senna surely dominated the qualifying by taking almost every pole position available, but the points are given on sundays. As with the 2007 season, Lewis got preferential treatment and a shit load of testing mileage before the season. And they got equal points, Lewis only beat Fernando on countback.
Fernando is and will always be the ultimate snake of a teammate.
What do you mean you haven't found any? When hamilton said it last year there were tons of them.
the 2007 mclaren season doesnt have to been taken in discussion, the both finish with the same points and mclaren box where divided, sabotaging both of them (in my opinion i think Alonso was a bit more sabotaged)
It is common for people to dump on Prost because he was Senna's adversary and Senna is all but worshipped as a god among F1 fans (including myself). However, what is not often celebrated is how massive a talent Prost was. I still put Senna over him, though, if for nothing else but his wet weather performance, but still, Prost was a fantastic driver.
That's why Prost is clearly the Goat. By miles.
Moped by Senna😂
Massa:
Frentzen (3 wins, 2 poles, 18 podiums, 2nd in 1997)
Fisichella (3 wins, 4 poles, 19 podiums, 4th in 2006)
Villeneuve (11 wins, 13 poles, 23 podiums, 1x WC)
Schumi (91 wins, 69 poles, 155 podiums, 7x WC)
Kimi (21 wins, 18 poles, 103 podiums, 1x WC)
Alonso (32 wins, 22 poles, 106 podiums, 2x WC)
Bottas (10 wins, 20 poles, 67 podiums, 2nd in 2019 & 2020)
In 15 seaons he only beat his teammate in the standings 3x (2005 villeneuve by 2 pts, 2008 kimi by 22 & 2017 stroll by 3 pts). Therefore he had the hardest teammates ever! 4 champs (11 chips in total) & 2 runner-ups!
Yeah you gotta feel for the guy. Probably looked forward to a chance of being Ferrari's main guy when Schumi left, only to have Kimi and Alonso as his next two teammates
Definitely Prost. I mean, he had m'fuggin Ayrton Senna da Silva in the other goddamn car.
why can't there be saturday races in F2 or F3 cars and regular races on sunday ?
why does every year have to be what car is the fastest and never also get to find out who is the fastest ????
It has to be Prost
Mansell, Senna, Rosberg, Hill, and Lauda are enough to shoot him to the top
So, if Lewis had beaten Nico, he would have less champions to fight with in this list, so he would be lower?
Obviously. Same way the Mercedes cars were less dominant than Verstappen's championship Red Bulls because Verstappen was better able to keep up with them than Mercedes can keep up with him.
Strong claim that nobody has thought this. I have definitely seen some analysis on this before. Cool video though.
Was Rosberg included ??
Or Shcumaher or Vettel??
Prost and Senna.
Obviously the driver who had the hardest teammates in F1 is 2016 FIA Formula 1 World Drivers' Champion Nico Rosberg, who beat 7 time FIA Formula 1 World Drivers' Champion Sir Lewis Hamilton and 7 time FIA Formula 1 World Drivers' Champion Michael Schumacher in equal machinery.
But no, in reality it is Prost
Oh hell naa its daimen yes lewis had alonso and resberg but u saying u would rather have aryton and prost
why can't there be saturday races in F2 or F3 cars and regular races on sunday ?
why does every year have to be what car is the fastest and never also get to find out who is the fastest ????
@mr v’s garage has done this
109-109 2007.
Alonso, Prost, Senna, Hamilton. The Goats.
Damon Hill imo.
Alain Prost was every bit as good as Senna, Schumacher, Hamilton & Max. Cream of the crop, best of the best. In my opinion, he could beat all of these drivers.