Dodge Dakota Durango No Start
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- čas přidán 20. 01. 2015
- Dodge Dakota Durango No Start
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This video is not meant to be a definitive how to.Always consult a professional repair manual before starting your repair.I am not responsible for any problems that you might incur by watching or following this video.Follow at your own risk. - Auta a dopravní prostředky
For those wondering if you dont have the trigger wire flashing. I changed my crank position sensor and got spark back. Really great video!
(Follow up from my message yesterday)
I changed the ignition coil today and it fired right up! It felt like within a half of a crank it was running and running Absolutely Amazing. Definitely better than it has in the past 6-7 years.
KEEP IN MIND that this truck has been sitting for Approximately 5 years! So the gas, fuel pump, plugs, wires, distributor, exc. have been sitting for that long aswell.
Thank you again for the video.
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Excellent Video! Explains how to check for power and a ground signal trigger to the ignition coil while cranking the engine over. I have used a test light to check for the ground trigger from the PCM but it is hard to see as it is really dim so the LED light is a great tool to have but a test light will work as well in a pinch. Thanks for the video!
I like the way you don't guess and buy a bunch of parts you test
Thanks for this video. I applied the same technique on a 1997 Dodge Dakota with a 2.5l and sure enough, it was the same thing. Thanks again
Great description and video, checked everything as explained. Got the test light & pulsate on both wires. Bought new coil, still no start unfortunately :(
Thank-you sir. Until I watched your video I wasn't sure if the 2003 Dakota had one coil or one for each cylinder. Great video!
Never thought I'd see Peter Griffin doing mechanics
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How does one "do mechanics"?
Yes!!! I knew this would be said I’m the comments haha first thing I thought! Lmao
Omg I thought the same thing
thanks for a very good video, after watching it I was able to replace our coil and get it running as good as before.
Great video-excellent troubleshooting techniques. Like the home made LED tester.
Nicely diagnosed and repaired mr richpin :-))
That coil must be driven by low current pulses for you to use an led, a good safe load :-)
Ive found a 21 watt bulb on wires to be very handy if a commercial test light isnt present, i do like to load the circuit up to see if the voltage drops so indicating a bad joint or faulty switch/module, good for checking trailer lighting sockets :-))
Ugh!!! I really need to try that on my Dakota. The testing of the voltage and the signal wires on the harness. Already replaced coil, plugs, wires, cap, and rotor. Started looking at the relays, but did not think of checking the power to the coil. Really liked the high speed, low drag tools used to check this several points of interest. Thanks for the tips. All thumbs up!!!
Did u find out what the problem was?
The problem was isolated to the ECM. Pin C17. Apparently after so long the pins tend to become loose, causing this sort of problem.
nice explanation on the diagnoses it helped me out
This is good to know. I bought a Dakota in non-running condition, and in a while I'll have all the preliminaries completed, so that I can crank it & see what happens. If there's no spark, I'll know what to do first! Thanks!
Thank you so much for your video! I tried the test light, it lit up, now I know what I need to get tomorrow. Fingers crossed. I'll let you know when/if it worked. Either way I now know that my computer is giving power to that point atleast. I can smell the fuel so I'm 90% sure that's where the problem is. That coil.
Thank you for the plug
It worked I had to push in and tie it off
Thanks for the video. I have an identical Dakota to that one.
2002 Durango 5.9 crank no start.
Coil signal wire is not 'fluttering'. Key on is solid at 12+ volts for a second or so, as it should, then off. When cranking LED test light attached to coil trigger wire is solid . . . . at 12 to 10 volts per trusty Harbor Freight voltmeter.
Instruments show no problems. Coil itself tests good, even tried a second coil - same behavior.
Checked each and every fuse. Went through what I think are all the obvious factors.
Coil outlet terminal shows a sold 12v when cranking, but no sparking to ground when using spark plug tester.
Any insights welcome.
awesome video!!
Thanks...needed that
Peter Griffin is that you? #FamilyGuy
Donnie Boyles lmfao! I thought the same thing!
es un correcto video gracias amigo
Great video, thanks very much.
Great video Rich! I am so glad that you are back doing diagnostic/repair videos than visiting local junk yard to yank random parts out from random cars :-)
Great video! Thank you Peter!
Your welcome.
Thanks for info. If light does not flash continually but stops for 2to3 seconds before flashing again what is wrong.
Thanks
Christy
Yes!!!! You sound exactly like Peter Griffin. "There was no SPOCK present. Lol
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I have a 2000 dodge dakota with 3.9l v6. Cranked but no start. Computer good,sensors all good. Turns out the engine had 2 cracked heads. Rebuilt it and all is good.
As u can see there was no Spock present. Gotta love Peter griffin. This video really grinds my gears.
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Thanks for the nice video Rich. Did you run a current limiting resistor in series with the LED to ensure it didn't burn up, if so what value?
Also what voltage was the control voltage at, if you know. I currently working on a 2003 no start, cranks fine, just don't have spark. Changed the Coil and the Distributor Module, so I think it's a CAM Position Sensor but I liked your little LED set up so I'd like to build one myself. Thanks for sharing. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
Ground to the aluminum A/C hose ? This guy needs to be on family guy
This guy sounds just like Peter Griffin! Lol
Thank you
Good video and diagnostic techniques. What motor is in the truck? I ask because the 4.7L motors of that vintage have a coil-over-plug ignition system.
It has the 3.9L
So if a ground wire is messed up somewhere, even if I put a new ignition coil in…it won’t start but still crank?
What do you recommend if you have spark and fuel to the rail?
...also, aren't LEDs polarized? Which side goes to ground and vice versa?
Thanks!
I have 1997 dodge ram van 2500 3.9l v6 the same problem it cranks wont start. I try to change crank position sensor same it wont start i return the new crank position sensor. I check ignition coil no spark so know thanks the video.
Willa bad coil cause engine to stall when at operating temperature and lose spark to the spark plugs?
excellent job, tnks vey much body.
great vid. so to make that tools test light. just solder some wire onto the leads off the led light?
There is a resister that needs to be installed.
How big?
Richard Cowtails
I wish i could remember better yet i wish i made a video of it.
haha yea, totally. great idea! good job, man
AWESOME VIDEO,,TNX.....
Most welcome
Everybody.........Loves........ Raymond
no spock = no stot. Nice fix!
Lmao
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I did the spark test with new wire and it was sparking in the spark tester, I am going to say that I need to replace the cap rotor and should I change the plastic base plate as well?
Just swap out the distributor ass’y, make sure it is torning while the engine turns over
U r pretty good I am wondering if u can help me I have 2000 Dodge Durango 5.9 4 W/D 4 wheel drive grommet rotted and now does not go in any gear & truck will not go into drive revere etc tried to replace grommet on 4 W/D shifter but grommet went under the front of frame I am wondering even if we do replace the grommet to 4 W/D shifter is that even the problem cuz it not in 2 heel dive? We keep getting different code PO 1056, PO 1068 plus our check engine light Is on, sometimes we don't get no codes but our car starts no problem just won't move to go anywhere. Hope u can help me cannot afford to buy another car. Thanks so much.
How do you get the crank position sensor out i have a 92 Dakota 318 what size Allen Head to get it out can u buy it at Lowe's rural King
I have a question if anyone knows the answer that is working on a similar truck that would be awesome. on my 95 Dodge Dakota I have crank no start condition with no spark. I have no signal at the trigger wire which leads me to think something is wrong with the computer but what has more confusing is at the green wire with the red/orange stripe that should have battery power (which the schematics says it should have in this video confirms it) has ground instead, does anyone know why this is? Could it possibly have a short to ground?
My truck will stall on me a lot then won't start back up but a few hours later it starts right up &I when it does run it runs fine could it be the coil? I have the same truck as you
I have seen coils and crank sensors heat and fail then cool down and work.
Yep it gets hot and dies ....cools down and runs again ....ez fix u can do it!
I have a 1999 Dodge Durango 5.9 SLT and had a crank, no start condition and a check engine light. Slapped a code reader on it and the crankshaft position sensor was bad. $70 part and $70 labor.
My understanding, If i want to run an aftermarket coil. The green with red stripe would be positive. The black would run to negative.
Why use a test light? You need 10-12 volts at the connector. What if you have 5 volts at the connector? That light will still illuminate but you'll still have voltage to low
Was this a 3.9v6?
Would ignition coil be located at the same spot?
Thanks I am going to go do this right now on my neighbors Dakota 1999 I will let you know.
@Ryan Shepard Yes thank you for reminding me they went to mexico and they don't need it but I am going to get to it this weekend. Thank you Ryan for reminding me.
Very good I learned something ...
My 98 Dakota 5.2 will start up good and run for about 4-5 minutes then dies , will not start after that , if I let it sit for about 15-20 minutes it will restart and run for a few minutes as before then die again ,, I`m lost on what this could be , any ideas ? Thanks Bill
Do you have remote starter if so its stuck in valet mode
@@mikecollins1752 Hi no remote starter , few days ago my friend and I checked , everything , had spark even after it died , checked fuel pressure and nothing , so have a new pump on its way , had to order off FleeBay as my local dealer here said pump Obsolete from Dodge now here in Canada ...
@@88s10Durango cool good luck
@@88s10Durango was it the pump?
@@TammyMartinBLUE Hi , yes after checking everything it was the fuel pump , I bought just the pump ,,, not the whole canister with the pump , fuel guage , presure regulator all in one , I now wish I had because my fuel presure regulator needs to be replaced .
On a side note it is way easier to pull the bolts out of the truck box and lift it or remove it than to drop the fuel tank , much easier and faster . Good luck Bill
Make sure you get the right pump !! ,
Theres a different pump canister for the 16 Gallon and 22 Gallon fuel tanks , the 22 Gallon has a longer ( deeper ) length .. :)
Did you need to use an LED tester? Couldn't use a test light like you were before?
Yes you can
Can I check for spock at the coil with a test light since I don’t have a tester??
What if I have no voltage to the green and red with key on
Great video man and no offense but you sound alot like Peter griffin from the show family guy
No offense taken i get that a lot...lol
So, both sides of the coil are positive; how can that be?
it gets ground where it mounts
Rusco321, the coil gets power on the green with the red trace, then, the ground, which is controlled by the ecm, is triggered by the inputs of the crank position trigger, and the cam position trigger, which are located at the back of the engine on the passenger side for the crank trigger sensor, and inside the distributor cap for the cam position sensor. If either of those two are failed, then the ecm will not send the proper signal to the coil on the black wire with the white trace.
I replaced the coil as well but still does not start for me, changed rotor and cap as well. Any suggestions?
Are you getting spark.
@@RichpinTv Yes I am I am leaning towards the timing chain jumped a tooth.
Spray a little break clean in the intake. If it runs then it's a fuel issue
What if my test light didnt light up where as at 3:36 for you it lit up help please!
Hey I'm having same issue did you ever find a solution to this
My truck when I turn the key nothing happened the batter is chargerd I know what’s Ron with it
What happens if the fan thing don’t spin?
Ok Peter from family guy Hahha
That coil looked real bad too
Does it have no bus on the dash
Will this test work on a 96 ram 5.9 ?
Yes
Anyone know why he was sticking a paper clip in the back of the plug. Couldn't he just have stuck his test light point into the front of it
No you don’t want to stretch those terminals at all
Could someone please send me a message telling me where to put my 15" rim on my 2000 Dodge Durango SLT sports utility V8 I have No trunk Please and Thank You
Ok peter griffin is lois holding the cam or stewie ??
My Dodge Dakota starts well but won't start after its been running and hot. Then, wait for 10 mins, restart and boom, it hits and you are off. Could this be the CAM or the CrankShaft sensors?
If the engine spins but will not start it could possible be a crank sensor.
But wouldn't that give an error code? Mine will spin but not start when its hot outside and the vehicle is all warmed up. Also, if the crank sensor were bad, wouldn't it idle poorly?
2001 Dakota turns over won't start
sesrch
Is "No Bus" showing up on the dash? There are known issues with the computer solder joints breaking contact with the board from heating and cooling.Common issue with all electronics
You need to test for fuel and spark when it happens.
Jesus Christ !
On this particular "Ignition System", after he found "No Spark" with the Spark Tester from the Spark Plug Wire, the next step would be to put the Spark Tester on the disconnected Ignition Coil Wire...His results woulda been "No Spark" coming from the Ignition Coil.
Background: Southern California Smog Repair Tech.
I'm afraid your not understanding the dodge Dakota year 1992 ignition system, he is checking the cam timing sensor including the trucks ECM.
Southern California retired diesel mechanic. I own one of these great reliable work horse truck, everything under the hood is controlled by the, known as the Electronic control unit, or Module hence, ECM I'm not sure as why he's using a Led test light for the ECM side of the Coil sencing terminal, at a closer look I see he's pluged the two wires back into the coil after inserting a paper clip on the ECM sencor wire, I'm curious why would a LED light be necessary for checking the, better known as the brain.
@@ronaldbaak3183 the dodge Dakota in the video was most certainly not a 1992
I'm not sure what year it is im trying to find out what is going on with my dodge Dakota, I've changed the timing sensor, changed the ECU, changed the fuel pump changed the coil and changed the solenoids, still no spark.
@@ronaldbaak3183 change the crank sensor
Bro is literally Peter Griffen
excellent job
The test light did not come on when I tried this.What could that mean.
It didn't come on with which wire?
My didnt come on either on the green wire
Bad cam or crank sensor, break in the wires
How do I fix a 03 dodge dakota that reads no bus
Bad ECM
It's a bad bcm happened to me I changed the ecm no fix then I went to junk yard and got 1 for 25$ after 500$ on ecm n dealer
What do you do when the dashboard says “No BUS”?
usually No bus could be a bad pcm had that same problem with my 99 durango
Go catch the bus
one of the worst coil ever made high fail rate ase master tech
30 bucks mounted to the front of the engine, I’ll take that all day
I have no power to both wires need help
My 1999 Durango It cranks and cranks then it starts up no luck finding the problem
Well I didn't see Spock either, maybe he's back on the enterprise with Capt. Kirk.
Well did all that, put on new coil still no start. now what ?
Try putting the( AC its the same on mine) relay in place of the fuel relay if its that you can get to the parts store & I hope you've already got it going but??
@@TammyMartinBLUE No I disconnect the battery both cables, and let the computer reset it self and after that it stared fine. thanks for the help.
Kirk to Enterprise we found Spock.
I have a 2000 dodge dakota it starts and runs fine but once you shut it off it won't atray for about five hours then it will start and run fine again I have changed plugs wires distributor cap rotor button coil coolent temp sensor I am lost
on this one
Pick up coil in distributor.
During the period of 'no start',,, have you determined whether is has proper fuel pressure and spark? Several of my 5.2L and one of my 3.9L trucks had fuel pumps that got weak and the engine wouldn't start hot, but WOULD START once it cooled off to ambient temperatures.
Basically, you need to find out which system is failing before you know what to replace.
Hey Quagmire! No Spock!
You sound like Peter Griffin from Family Guy
Peter griffin
Star trek
= s p a r k====not spot=====
the ac line is not a good ground
It's not connected to the A?C line LMFAO --he's got it attached to the alternator !! Damn PAY ATTENTION !
Couldn’t have been a bad test, he nailed it
Thanks!
Thank you so much.