da immortulz would win, i mean they after grimgor was killed by archaon and the slayer of kings da immortulz crippled the Swords of Chaos, some of the greatest knights in the history of Chaos
@@hunterskidmore1672 You cant hurt me Kroq-Gar *THE UNENLIGHTENED MASSES* *THEY CANNOT MAKE THE JUDGEMENT CALL* *GIVE UP FREE WILL FOREVER, THEIR VOICES WONT BE HEARD AT ALL*
Prince Sigvald the Magnificent vs. Crone Hellebron Malus Darkblade vs. Gorfang Rotgut Count Noctilus vs. Alberic d'Bordeleaux Morathi vs. Teclis Lord Mortkin vs. Boris Todbringer
The problem with Teclis (or Tyrion) vs anyone is the verdict just doesn't matter. They both have a non disclosed magical item called the writing team and it's by far the strongest.
I'm imagining a still image of a gutted Vlad lying chest up with Kroq-Gar standing over him holding the Von Carstein ring in his left hand between the thumb and index finger while looking down at the corpse. That and Grimloq looming in the background. Someone please draw that…
I can't really see Felix beating Kemmler. Like, in the lore he actually fought Gotrek and Felix and a bunch of powerful wizards at the same time without Krell backing him up and they still didn't manage to kill him. What the game kind of fails to represent is the fact that the smoke of mist and shadows makes Heinrich Kemmler a genuinely scary duelist as he just turns into a big, swirling cloud of smoke and it's impossible to really make out his shape in there and he will just reach out and strike with the chaos tomb blade from unexpected angles. It's specifically noted about him that he is an unusually capable and nasty melee fighter for a Nechromancer and that more than one assassin expecting to just quickly take him out were absolutely cut down. And Felix... He really just isn't outstanding as a combattant, he isn't a wizard, he doesn't carry any stupidly overpowered gear around... His main method of winning fights is letting Gotrek do the heavy lifting.
@@ethanfox8979 No. It's just ridiculously light while losing none of it's mass so it hits like how an axe that big wielded by an Orc who can beat giants in arm wrestling would hit but to Grimgor it feels like he's swinging air. Grimgor is just a very skilled combatant known for performing very well executed parries and counter attacks alongside that very daunting offense.
@Kim Jisoo oh ya, that's kind of Teclis's shitck. A rat could beat him in a hand to hand fight. Thing is: Teclis is so magically powerful that nobody has been able to get within hand to hand range. I don't think Morathi is any different.
@@brodieknight772 Actually, as mentioned during Teclis' appearence in the Gotrek and Felix novel Giantslayer (Which is still canon I believe), with potions to amp him up he's only slightly worse than the average High Elf in terms of strength and speed. In that book he was capable of facing Orcs in close combat. "The greenskin chieftain struck with the speed and fury of a summer storm. His blow fell like a thunderbolt, but the elf was simply not there. Moving with a swiftness that blurred sight, he moved around the orc’s strike, and his own blade bit home into the orc’s upper arm. The creature bellowed with fury and aimed a stroke that would have decapitated the slim elf had it connected. Teclis ducked to one side, executing what seemed almost a courtly bow, and the blade passed above his head. His return stroke was driven upwards with all the force of an uncoiling spring. It bit into the orc’s ribs, drawing greenish blood. Only the orc chiefs own lightning swiftness had kept the blade from burying itself in his bowels. Strokes passed between the two almost too fast for Felix’s eye to follow. The elf gave ground gracefully, moving backward like water flowing over stone. The orc pursued, grunting mightily, until he was almost past Felix. In his fury, his concentration was entirely on the mocking elf who danced away taunting him in his own language and who was slowly inflicting a dozen small cuts on him with his ripostes."
@@Prince__Teclis I read that one. I didn't remember him being that good in a fight, but I was mostly exaggerating anyway. What I was trying to say was that in comparison to other legendary lords, he's tissue paper. Speaking of which, who do you think would win a hand to hand fight with no magic involved: Teclis, or Mazdamundi? Mazdamundi gets his beating stick, but not his dinosaur.
@@brodieknight772 This is not how they fight so it's a bizarre matchup but if we had to make a guess between a melee duel with Mazdamundi and Teclis with no magic, mounts or magic gear then it would obviously go to Mazdamundi. Even though Slann suck in melee combat atleast he's not made out of glass like Teclis.
"they don't follow the laws of nature, they actually get stronger as they get older" That's actually how real crocodiles work, sort of. They don't suffer from getting older, they just get bigger. They only ever die of injury or disease. So theoretically, if there was no disease anything, crocodiles could live for hundreds of years. Eventually they would get too big and their heart wouldn't work, or they'd die by way of bad luck.
The white dwarf slaughters and if you couldn't tell by my profile pic I'm an LM fanboy. If he were fighting me that's an Even fight but Gor-rok will just eventually fall.
@@lastdefenderofxhotl I don't think even you could beat him, honestly whenever the question of who is straight out the strongest single character in the Warhammer world, my answer is a somewhat uncertain 1st place for Grombrindal with Venerable Lord Kroak coming in as the close second.
@@Arbaaltheundefeated Alive lord Kroak without a doubt is the most powerful character in the franchise I mean Mazdimundi is practically a God and is a legitimate borderline if not equal competitor with end times Nagash for Christs sake and Kroak blows them both out the water. Grombrindal might even be able to beat Kroak but that doesn't necessarily make him more powerful, I mean Abhorrash can kill Archaon if one of the GW writers is to be believed but he's nowhere near as powerful. Anyway tho Grombrindal is an absolute menace to deal with but against Kroq and only Kroq is he facing an equal. They've got similar levels of gear which is literally never the case for Grombrindal considering hes literally an ancestor God and the Dwarfs are the best craftsmen race and yet all of Kroq's gear was made by the Old Ones which are a step even above Grungni. They're equal in ability, both are extremely skilled and intuitive warriors (with Kroq maybe being more naturally attuned to fighting) they've both got thousands of years of experience Kroq more so but at a certain point does it really matter. Physically they're equals as well both ridiculously durable, on par in strength, Kroq's faster but does it really matter. The only reason Kroq doesn't get the respect he deserves is because his lack of lore, but if we look at what little they have given us and apply some logic your left with a character who should never lose a fight like ever. Like outside of Kholek dismounted Kroq-Gar still kills or stalemates everything else, on Grymloq he just does it faster and arguably beats Kholek but still stalemates a few like Grombrindal and maybe Gotrek.
Another great video you two! Really enjoying these vs. series. A couple things I want to say: 1. Props to Erik. His animations and editing are really on point! 2. Glad to see the Lizardmen 3-0! No one trumps the Children of the Old Ones! 3. Call me childish, but 18:18 killed me haha! Poor Kroq-Gar...
I’ve been watching your videos for a while and I absolutely love them, great work! For your next “Who Would Win?” video could you do Grimgor vs Grombrindal? They are both absolute beasts and I have no idea who would win.
Some characters I'd personally like to see in no particular order: Be'lakor, Valkia, Arkhan, Aenarion, Noctilus, Vardek Crom, Caradryan, Valnir the Reaper, Zhatan the Black, Greasus Goldtooth, Neferata, Ushoran, Skreech Verminking , and Valten.
You know what would be pretty cool? If you told some - or at least the most - most significant achievment of the characters. While you do talk about it for some characters, there are some you do not...
Just so you know i got an ad at the start saying "Take advantage of the stock market crash! Invest now!" Which was pretty funny to me, anyways: Fay Enchantress vs Alarielle: Fay Enchantress +Useful spells: Awakening Of The Wood, The Dwellers Below. +Can kill Alarielle by looking at her. +Is blessed by the Lady, making things just miss her sometimes. -Has MUCH worse armor. Alarielle +While its not "good" her armor is tons better than Enchantresses. +While still a bad duelist, she is still better the the Fay Enchantress. +Useful spell: Arcane Unforging. The Fay Enchantress wins. Vlad vs Kroq-Gar: Vlad +Is a spellcaster. +Useful spells: Gaze Of Nagash, Raise Dead. +Though not NEARLY as effective as his opponents, Vlad can use his fangs to suck Lizard juice. +Can potentially be basically invincible. +Each time he wounds Kroq-Gar with Blooddrinker he heals himself. +Is one of the greatest (Non Blood Dragon) Vampire duelists of all time. -Is physically weaker than his foe. -Has a bit worse armor. Kroq-Gar +Even when disarmed, he can still use his fangs, claws and tail as natural weapons. +Is physically stronger than his foe. +Has a bit better armor. +Is UNIMAGINABLY skilled in combat. +Has a spoopy stick of an Old One. +Is resistant to Vlads magic. -Has no magic or ranged weaponry. Vlad wins. Lokhir vs Wulfrik: Lokhir +Is faster than his opponent. +His weapons are a bit lighter. +Has Warhammer Vibranium blades. +The Krakenhelm heals him. -Is physically a bit weaker than Wulfrik. -Cannot teach Wulfrik a lesson in trickery. Wulfrik +Is physically a bit stronger than Lokhir. -Is slower than his opponent. -His weapon is a bit heavy to swing. Lokhir wins. Green Knight vs Morghur: Green Knight +Is semi-ethereal. +Has 12x better armor. +His weapon is a bit lighter. +Is MUCH faster than Morghur. +When he dies, he just poofs out of a tree. +Can Treeleport. -Is half the size of Morghur. Morghur +Is 2x the size of his opponent. +Has regeneration making him very tough. +Even when disarmed, he still has his feet, sheer bulk and giant fuckoff claw, and whatever else grows out of him as natural weapons. +Is approaching a demigod in terms of power. -His weapon is a bit heavy to swing. -Is MUCH slower than his opponent. The Green Knight wins. Gor-Rok vs Taurox: Gor-Rok +Is insanely tough. +Even when disarmed, he still has his jaws, claws and tail as natural weapons. +Will know where da yeet point is. +Has slightly better protection. -Is physically weaker than his opponent (By a bit). -Has no ranged weaponry. Taurox +Is physically stronger than his opponent (By a bit). +Can breathe fire. -Has slightly worse protection. Taurox wins.
Wouldn't necessarily agree with that. Volkmar only won against Krell because he had some very specific advantages that played a huge role in that fight, like the Jade Griffon being able to counter the Black Axe of Krell and Krell just getting run over by the Chariot all the time. Kemmler is actually a much better fighter than Total War gives him credit to be and unlike almost all other Nechromancers and Vampire lords he isn't actually undead, meaning that a lot of Volkmars specific anti undead stuff doesn't actually affect him. The main question would be if he could effectively overpower Volkmars healing before Volkmar gets a hit so lucky that it just knocks Kemmler out.
@@darthplagueis13 if he is on the war altar of Sigmar, Volkmar almost cannot be harmed by magic. Even if Kemmler can fight, Volkmar is still a warrior priest, i don't think Kemmler can overpower him in melee
Well, wouldn't be Kemmlers first warrior priest. The thing is, it'd basically end up as a wet noodle contest. Kemmler would have no issues at all taking down the horses pulling the war altar because where Krell got knocked around, Kemmler would just turn into a puff of smoke and get out of the way and then stab the horses in the throat or another vulnerable spot in no time. Volkmar can't really hit Kemmler and Kemmler can't deal any lasting damage to him, that's kind of the issue. Volkmar is a pretty good fighter but he isn't that fast and Kemmler managed to avoid getting chopped into pieces during a fight against Gotrek, Felix and a bunch of Wizards and Gotrek is an absolute monster.
@@lordcorax6918 "@Darthplagueis13 if he is on the war altar of Sigmar, Volkmar almost cannot be harmed by magic. Even if Kemmler can fight, Volkmar is still a warrior priest, i don't think Kemmler can overpower him in melee" Kemmler can just float in the air spaming an army at him.(cloak lets him fly in the lore/tabletop) Volkmar is undoubtedly more powerfull, but Kemmler can just cheese the fight.
For my wishes/suggestions if you make more parts: Kroq-gar vs Greasus Goldtooth, Lord Mazamundi vs Nagash (pre end-times of course), Deathmaster Sniktch vs Shadowblade, Prince Apophas vs The Changeling, Magnus the Pious vs Alcadizzar (with fellblade)
Hey loremaster, just a quick question, where did you find all your info on Kroq Gar, I really want to read more stuff on him and ot seems the wikis are pretty barebones
I wonder who would win between Archaon the everchosen vs Valten the exhalted of Sigmar. They fought a total of twice, both times interupted, so who would win if they were left to their climactic final duel?
Will you release a new episode before the DLC is announced ? Because after this there is gonna be plenty new content to cover, so even less likely to get an episode
So... I'm currently running a homebrew warhammer fantasy RPG game. The plot involves a lone waywatcher (the sole survivor of her unit) carrying the heart of Morghur the Shadowgave as far north as possible, to ensure that when it 'resurrects', it'll be as far away from Athel Loren as possible. As it is, the heart is contained within a brooch made of heavily warded amber, sealed by Ariel's tears, but even so, the corruption bleeds out of it, and I've heavily implied that the brooch will eventually erode, allowing the heart to escape. In the meantime, the heart is 'calling' to all corrupted beings within the region the party travels through, attracting beastmen that lurk nearby. The way how I have it, if one of the beastmen takes the heart (which has already happened), and opens the brooch (not yet), it will begin to gradually corrupt the beastman's form, twisting it inside out, and gradually causing the form of Morghur to subsume the beastman's previous form, thus bringing about his resurrection. I humbly ask the glorious loremaster if this whole concept fits well within the lore, as the research I've done doesn't explicitely state how Morghur is resurrected.
Huh. Alarielle probably? Then again, her power is mostly easy to use against Daemons and such. Very specifically. Huh. You know that Unicorns are actually pretty freaky in their actual mythology. Um. Kroq. I mean, Vladdy can come back, but... uh... eventually he's going to blast that ring, either on purpose or by accident. Then again, Vlad is a vampire... but Kroq is a Saurus. So... he might get digested though, right? Like, if Grimloq swallows him... Oh but I forgot about the wizard thing. Magic might actually tip the scales? Just a bit? I dunno. Probably not though. I just don't see a bloke, even a vampire, getting around the whole giant T-Rex monster thing. Oh. This is... this is fascinating. Wulfrik vs Lokhir? I'd imagine Wulfrik given he is used to fighting Elves. That being said, it wouldn't exactly surprise me if Lokhir could pull it off. That being said, I'd go for the sword and board over sword and little dagger. Just personally. The Green Knight? I have no bloody idea. Not only are they both coming back, but... I mean Morghur isn't going to be able to mutate the Green Knight I'd imagine... so... I mean... I dunno. I mean, he isn't going to be able to scare the Green Knight either. So I'm sticking with the Green Knight. Eh. Gor Rok? Nah, sounds like Taurox wins after the description. Oh. Maybe not. But I don't see how a mace is going to get to that weakness since it is probably too big. Taurox breaks his neck on shield, that would be hilarious. I mean... every action has an equal and opposite reaction. So he is hitting himself with the same force he is hitting the shield with. Especially if he can't budge that shield at all. Oh. So it is a straight up Achilles heel? Yeah, okay then. Okay. So. What could actually beat any of these Lizardmen characters? Also, I now just kinda want to see more Green Knight. Giles vs Aenarion? No, that might be a bit much.
Vlad vs Mannfred Red Duke vs Khazrak Malagor vs Orion Belegar vs Hellebron Arkhan vs Teclis Caradryan vs Kouran Darkhand Malus vs Louen Plz, come back!!!!!
Question: Did Wulfrik the Wanderer ever get sent to duel a major character, it seems kinda odd that he's constantly sent out to fight obscure fodder, but is never sent to challenge someone like Settra or Fellheart, or Leoncour.
Elector Count Battle Royale!!! Karl Franz (with or w/o Ghal Maraz, or wielding Dragontooth) Boris Todbringer Marius Leitdorf Adelbrad Ludenhof Theoderic Gausser Valmir von Raukov Wolfram Hertwig Alberich Haupt-Anderssen Helmut Feurbach and Emmanuelle von Liebwitz All fight to THE DEATH!!!
Aenarion with the Widowmaker still gets slaughtered by Grimnir. One's an ancestor god with two axes that by themselves allow two Mortal Dwarfs the ability to outright defeat Gods. Grombrindal would be an interesting fight but only if Aenarion has the Widowmaker. Grimnir basically has two Widowmakers in his axes which is why Gotrek, Thorgrim, and Grombrindal are so fucking powerful because they're all wielding axes of Grimnir.
da immortulz vs the mirror guard
da immortulz would win, i mean they after grimgor was killed by archaon and the slayer of kings da immortulz crippled the Swords of Chaos, some of the greatest knights in the history of Chaos
@@darkwarrior7101 thats end times, so it doesn't count in this series, however my money is still on da immortulz
I just immagine Kroq Gar sitting there confused after the 2nd time vlad got up, just like wtf ???
@@bobthetop3242 nanomachines son
@@hunterskidmore1672 You cant hurt me Kroq-Gar
*THE UNENLIGHTENED MASSES*
*THEY CANNOT MAKE THE JUDGEMENT CALL*
*GIVE UP FREE WILL FOREVER, THEIR VOICES WONT BE HEARD AT ALL*
I want to see Grimgor on Kroq'gar the two scariest "never struggle to lose" guys to fight.
Finally a good show of Kroq Gar power, so many people under estimate him, since he doesnt have a whole lot of lore !
Yeah it's so hard to kill him and at the same time he can obliterated most things in seconds
@@fritz8393 Yeah, Skrolk insta-kills Grymloq, Kroq-Gar insta-kills Skrolk, the Carnosaur relies on the Saurus, not the reverse.
Prince Sigvald the Magnificent vs. Crone Hellebron
Malus Darkblade vs. Gorfang Rotgut
Count Noctilus vs. Alberic d'Bordeleaux
Morathi vs. Teclis
Lord Mortkin vs. Boris Todbringer
All these are great If I might add another one Belegar vs Tyrion sounds very fun.
The problem with Teclis (or Tyrion) vs anyone is the verdict just doesn't matter. They both have a non disclosed magical item called the writing team and it's by far the strongest.
Yes indeed I like this list
The mashup of kroq gar just killing vlad eternally would make an amazing short film. Like just a mashup of vlad dying over and over.
I'm imagining a still image of a gutted Vlad lying chest up with Kroq-Gar standing over him holding the Von Carstein ring in his left hand between the thumb and index finger while looking down at the corpse. That and Grimloq looming in the background.
Someone please draw that…
It would be better if it was Mannfred dying on repeat, but that will do.
"Kroq-gar, I've come to bargain!"
@@warhawk9566 so accurate
If vlad survives the first few times, he'd probably just try to escape and or come with back up next time.
Im so happy that Kroq Gar won. He's my favorite LL from total war. I was wottied at first when i saw he was up against Vlad. Go team Lizardmen
We need the dlc to make the lizardmen rise for it is the Great Plan of the Old Ones.
In terms of pure fighting characters Kroq defeats most, there are very few I can think of that can actually beat him.
King ofSauce Lowkey I don’t think anyone is better than Kroq-Gar in terms of pure martial prowess.
@@kingofsauce1319 oh you talking about lore, otherwise in the game queek kills him
Grimgor vs torax
Helman ghorst vs felix
Grey seer thranquil vs throni ironbrow
A skavenslave vs a zombie
A skaven slave all alone without any upranked skaven around to threaten him? Zombie wins by forfeit^^
Skavenslave vs zombie vs peasant mob
I can't really see Felix beating Kemmler. Like, in the lore he actually fought Gotrek and Felix and a bunch of powerful wizards at the same time without Krell backing him up and they still didn't manage to kill him. What the game kind of fails to represent is the fact that the smoke of mist and shadows makes Heinrich Kemmler a genuinely scary duelist as he just turns into a big, swirling cloud of smoke and it's impossible to really make out his shape in there and he will just reach out and strike with the chaos tomb blade from unexpected angles. It's specifically noted about him that he is an unusually capable and nasty melee fighter for a Nechromancer and that more than one assassin expecting to just quickly take him out were absolutely cut down.
And Felix... He really just isn't outstanding as a combattant, he isn't a wizard, he doesn't carry any stupidly overpowered gear around... His main method of winning fights is letting Gotrek do the heavy lifting.
Grimgor's axe, Gitsnik, has the same effect as the Mace of Ulamak so Grimgor wins.
@@ethanfox8979 No. It's just ridiculously light while losing none of it's mass so it hits like how an axe that big wielded by an Orc who can beat giants in arm wrestling would hit but to Grimgor it feels like he's swinging air. Grimgor is just a very skilled combatant known for performing very well executed parries and counter attacks alongside that very daunting offense.
A thematic one would be Wolfrik vs Nakai to see who really is the true Wanderer
You my friend are a genius.
I'm reasonably certain that Nakai would either eat Wulfrik or just feed him to the nearest Carnosaur.
Jon Hooke we will now see
Gromm the Paunch vs Greasus Goldtooth would be a very interesting matchup.
Greasus would bribe Paunch to turn his chariot around.
Teclis vs Morathi would be cool.
Teclis would crush Morathi. He's basically the most powerful warm blooded magic user in existence. Morathi is just a bad mommy.
@Kim Jisoo oh ya, that's kind of Teclis's shitck. A rat could beat him in a hand to hand fight. Thing is: Teclis is so magically powerful that nobody has been able to get within hand to hand range. I don't think Morathi is any different.
@@brodieknight772 Actually, as mentioned during Teclis' appearence in the Gotrek and Felix novel Giantslayer (Which is still canon I believe), with potions to amp him up he's only slightly worse than the average High Elf in terms of strength and speed. In that book he was capable of facing Orcs in close combat.
"The greenskin chieftain struck with the speed and fury of a summer storm. His blow fell like a thunderbolt, but the elf was simply not there. Moving with a swiftness that blurred sight, he moved around the orc’s strike, and his own blade bit home into the orc’s upper arm. The creature bellowed with fury and aimed a stroke that would have decapitated the slim elf had it connected. Teclis ducked to one side, executing what seemed almost a courtly bow, and the blade passed above his head. His return stroke was driven upwards with all the force of an uncoiling spring. It bit into the orc’s ribs, drawing greenish blood. Only the orc chiefs own lightning swiftness had kept the blade from burying itself in his bowels. Strokes passed between the two almost too fast for Felix’s eye to follow. The elf gave ground gracefully, moving
backward like water flowing over stone. The orc pursued, grunting mightily, until he was almost past Felix. In his fury, his concentration was entirely on the mocking elf who danced away taunting him in his own language and who was slowly inflicting a dozen small cuts on him with his ripostes."
@@Prince__Teclis I read that one. I didn't remember him being that good in a fight, but I was mostly exaggerating anyway. What I was trying to say was that in comparison to other legendary lords, he's tissue paper. Speaking of which, who do you think would win a hand to hand fight with no magic involved: Teclis, or Mazdamundi? Mazdamundi gets his beating stick, but not his dinosaur.
@@brodieknight772 This is not how they fight so it's a bizarre matchup but if we had to make a guess between a melee duel with Mazdamundi and Teclis with no magic, mounts or magic gear then it would obviously go to Mazdamundi. Even though Slann suck in melee combat atleast he's not made out of glass like Teclis.
"they don't follow the laws of nature, they actually get stronger as they get older"
That's actually how real crocodiles work, sort of. They don't suffer from getting older, they just get bigger. They only ever die of injury or disease. So theoretically, if there was no disease anything, crocodiles could live for hundreds of years. Eventually they would get too big and their heart wouldn't work, or they'd die by way of bad luck.
Lokhir used to have a giant hydra as a mount but one day it collapsed and he fell hard.
Neferata vs Valkya the Bloody.
oh hell yes
I'd like to see a 2v2 between Teclis and Tyrion vs Kemmler and Krell.
Wouldn't be fair on Kemmler and Krell.
What about the entire Warhammer fantasy lore Vs the game workshop writing team
That matchup already took place, and we all know who lost.
I demand the White Lizard VS The White Dwarf
I've said it many times, THE GREAT WHITE LIZARD VS THE GREAT WHITE DWARF IN A POOL FILLED WITH GREAT WHITE SHARKS!!!!
The white dwarf slaughters and if you couldn't tell by my profile pic I'm an LM fanboy. If he were fighting me that's an Even fight but Gor-rok will just eventually fall.
@@lastdefenderofxhotl I don't think even you could beat him, honestly whenever the question of who is straight out the strongest single character in the Warhammer world, my answer is a somewhat uncertain 1st place for Grombrindal with Venerable Lord Kroak coming in as the close second.
@@Arbaaltheundefeated Alive lord Kroak without a doubt is the most powerful character in the franchise I mean Mazdimundi is practically a God and is a legitimate borderline if not equal competitor with end times Nagash for Christs sake and Kroak blows them both out the water. Grombrindal might even be able to beat Kroak but that doesn't necessarily make him more powerful, I mean Abhorrash can kill Archaon if one of the GW writers is to be believed but he's nowhere near as powerful. Anyway tho Grombrindal is an absolute menace to deal with but against Kroq and only Kroq is he facing an equal. They've got similar levels of gear which is literally never the case for Grombrindal considering hes literally an ancestor God and the Dwarfs are the best craftsmen race and yet all of Kroq's gear was made by the Old Ones which are a step even above Grungni. They're equal in ability, both are extremely skilled and intuitive warriors (with Kroq maybe being more naturally attuned to fighting) they've both got thousands of years of experience Kroq more so but at a certain point does it really matter. Physically they're equals as well both ridiculously durable, on par in strength, Kroq's faster but does it really matter. The only reason Kroq doesn't get the respect he deserves is because his lack of lore, but if we look at what little they have given us and apply some logic your left with a character who should never lose a fight like ever. Like outside of Kholek dismounted Kroq-Gar still kills or stalemates everything else, on Grymloq he just does it faster and arguably beats Kholek but still stalemates a few like Grombrindal and maybe Gotrek.
"I demand satisfaction"
This has become my favorite Warhammer series on any channel. Keep up the great work guys!
Great job with this serie man, watching 1hr straight without getting bored whatsoever. You rock!
I'd still like to see Sigmar VS Gilles :D
I love this series man so good!!!
So happy my boy Wulfric wiped the floor with that Edge-Elf. #beardsforthebeardgod
Oh this is a pretty fun series. First time coming across them. Neat. =)
Best one yet sooooo cool ! Loved it !
Gor-rok and taurox would be like a mini kaiju fight.
Another great video you two! Really enjoying these vs. series. A couple things I want to say:
1. Props to Erik. His animations and editing are really on point!
2. Glad to see the Lizardmen 3-0! No one trumps the Children of the Old Ones!
3. Call me childish, but 18:18 killed me haha! Poor Kroq-Gar...
It’s finally here! I love this series.
That last fight was so god damn awesome
Love this series!
My god, I REALLY love those videos
Awesome video!!
Would like to see another match up with vlad at some point, a fav character and would like to see how he sizes up against others
Thanks man i really really enjoy your commentary.
These are so awesome please don't ditch this series
Booooo! Not allowing Vlad to use his Isabella-mount..
Vlad just sits on Isabella's shoulders for the whole fight
@@AJCherenkov I don't think that's how Vlad would mount her.
@@JasperLane fuck-fighting on a whole new level
A sorcery duel .. Nagash vs Kairos Fateweaver (lord of change)
Nagash. Nagash beats everybody not named Mazdimundi for sure and maybe Malekith, Alarielle, Ariel, and Teclis. All for varying reasons.
love this series
You guys are the best keep it up
Loved this video keep it up
I’ve been watching your videos for a while and I absolutely love them, great work! For your next “Who Would Win?” video could you do Grimgor vs Grombrindal? They are both absolute beasts and I have no idea who would win.
Some characters I'd personally like to see in no particular order: Be'lakor, Valkia, Arkhan, Aenarion, Noctilus, Vardek Crom, Caradryan, Valnir the Reaper, Zhatan the Black, Greasus Goldtooth, Neferata, Ushoran, Skreech Verminking
, and Valten.
You know what would be pretty cool? If you told some - or at least the most - most significant achievment of the characters. While you do talk about it for some characters, there are some you do not...
When are the Chaos Dwarves gonna get a good matchup? Byzantine boys need some love.
Just so you know i got an ad at the start saying "Take advantage of the stock market crash! Invest now!" Which was pretty funny to me, anyways:
Fay Enchantress vs Alarielle:
Fay Enchantress
+Useful spells: Awakening Of The Wood, The Dwellers Below.
+Can kill Alarielle by looking at her.
+Is blessed by the Lady, making things just miss her sometimes.
-Has MUCH worse armor.
Alarielle
+While its not "good" her armor is tons better than Enchantresses.
+While still a bad duelist, she is still better the the Fay Enchantress.
+Useful spell: Arcane Unforging.
The Fay Enchantress wins.
Vlad vs Kroq-Gar:
Vlad
+Is a spellcaster.
+Useful spells: Gaze Of Nagash, Raise Dead.
+Though not NEARLY as effective as his opponents, Vlad can use his fangs to suck Lizard juice.
+Can potentially be basically invincible.
+Each time he wounds Kroq-Gar with Blooddrinker he heals himself.
+Is one of the greatest (Non Blood Dragon) Vampire duelists of all time.
-Is physically weaker than his foe.
-Has a bit worse armor.
Kroq-Gar
+Even when disarmed, he can still use his fangs, claws and tail as natural weapons.
+Is physically stronger than his foe.
+Has a bit better armor.
+Is UNIMAGINABLY skilled in combat.
+Has a spoopy stick of an Old One.
+Is resistant to Vlads magic.
-Has no magic or ranged weaponry.
Vlad wins.
Lokhir vs Wulfrik:
Lokhir
+Is faster than his opponent.
+His weapons are a bit lighter.
+Has Warhammer Vibranium blades.
+The Krakenhelm heals him.
-Is physically a bit weaker than Wulfrik.
-Cannot teach Wulfrik a lesson in trickery.
Wulfrik
+Is physically a bit stronger than Lokhir.
-Is slower than his opponent.
-His weapon is a bit heavy to swing.
Lokhir wins.
Green Knight vs Morghur:
Green Knight
+Is semi-ethereal.
+Has 12x better armor.
+His weapon is a bit lighter.
+Is MUCH faster than Morghur.
+When he dies, he just poofs out of a tree.
+Can Treeleport.
-Is half the size of Morghur.
Morghur
+Is 2x the size of his opponent.
+Has regeneration making him very tough.
+Even when disarmed, he still has his feet, sheer bulk and giant fuckoff claw, and whatever else grows out of him as natural weapons.
+Is approaching a demigod in terms of power.
-His weapon is a bit heavy to swing.
-Is MUCH slower than his opponent.
The Green Knight wins.
Gor-Rok vs Taurox:
Gor-Rok
+Is insanely tough.
+Even when disarmed, he still has his jaws, claws and tail as natural weapons.
+Will know where da yeet point is.
+Has slightly better protection.
-Is physically weaker than his opponent (By a bit).
-Has no ranged weaponry.
Taurox
+Is physically stronger than his opponent (By a bit).
+Can breathe fire.
-Has slightly worse protection.
Taurox wins.
Deathmaster Snikch vs Shadowblade, the death that walks unseen
Volkmar the Grimm vs. Heinrich Kemmler
If he can defeat Krell (as we saw here), Kemmler is not match for him.
Wouldn't necessarily agree with that. Volkmar only won against Krell because he had some very specific advantages that played a huge role in that fight, like the Jade Griffon being able to counter the Black Axe of Krell and Krell just getting run over by the Chariot all the time. Kemmler is actually a much better fighter than Total War gives him credit to be and unlike almost all other Nechromancers and Vampire lords he isn't actually undead, meaning that a lot of Volkmars specific anti undead stuff doesn't actually affect him.
The main question would be if he could effectively overpower Volkmars healing before Volkmar gets a hit so lucky that it just knocks Kemmler out.
@@darthplagueis13 if he is on the war altar of Sigmar, Volkmar almost cannot be harmed by magic. Even if Kemmler can fight, Volkmar is still a warrior priest, i don't think Kemmler can overpower him in melee
Well, wouldn't be Kemmlers first warrior priest. The thing is, it'd basically end up as a wet noodle contest. Kemmler would have no issues at all taking down the horses pulling the war altar because where Krell got knocked around, Kemmler would just turn into a puff of smoke and get out of the way and then stab the horses in the throat or another vulnerable spot in no time.
Volkmar can't really hit Kemmler and Kemmler can't deal any lasting damage to him, that's kind of the issue.
Volkmar is a pretty good fighter but he isn't that fast and Kemmler managed to avoid getting chopped into pieces during a fight against Gotrek, Felix and a bunch of Wizards and Gotrek is an absolute monster.
@@lordcorax6918 "@Darthplagueis13 if he is on the war altar of Sigmar, Volkmar almost cannot be harmed by magic. Even if Kemmler can fight, Volkmar is still a warrior priest, i don't think Kemmler can overpower him in melee"
Kemmler can just float in the air spaming an army at him.(cloak lets him fly in the lore/tabletop)
Volkmar is undoubtedly more powerfull, but Kemmler can just cheese the fight.
I love that you do these with Turin. Do one with milk and cookies some time
Can we see Kroq-Gar and Grimloq vs Throgg and/or Gor-Rok vs Grimgor?
That would be my favorite matchup. I think Kroq would win, by being more intelligent and having better gear !
@@kingnathiii1927 He is pretty much made and equipped to kill things like Throgg. Hopefully we'll see the expert's opinion.
For my wishes/suggestions if you make more parts: Kroq-gar vs Greasus Goldtooth, Lord Mazamundi vs Nagash (pre end-times of course), Deathmaster Sniktch vs Shadowblade, Prince Apophas vs The Changeling, Magnus the Pious vs Alcadizzar (with fellblade)
Kroq-gar vs Gor-rok :)
Grimgor vs either one of the above.
Requesting anything Lizardmen, for the Great Old Ones!
Any more of these coming soon?
YEAHHH FINALLY ! BEEN WAITING FOR THIS !
Will we ever get another of these? Love them!
Queek vs Kazhrak
Wulfrik vs Crom
Neferata vs Khalida
Thanquol vs Balthazar
Grimgor vs Gotrek
Mace of Uli'mak? More like the Crotch Crusher.
Hey loremaster, just a quick question, where did you find all your info on Kroq Gar, I really want to read more stuff on him and ot seems the wikis are pretty barebones
Imagine grombrindal riding that unicorn
I wonder who would win between Archaon the everchosen vs Valten the exhalted of Sigmar. They fought a total of twice, both times interupted, so who would win if they were left to their climactic final duel?
Thanks for having Kroq-Gar! 8D
I would like to see gotrek verses what ever you can throw at him really
You guys should make all the winners fight each other
yup. knockout competition ftw
SOTEK HEAR MY PRAYERS! Can we get a Grey Seer Thanquol vs. Tehenhauin? Love the vids btw keep up the great work!
Will you release a new episode before the DLC is announced ? Because after this there is gonna be plenty new content to cover, so even less likely to get an episode
18:18 love how krog gar turns around so vlad can stab him where the sun don't shine XD
Isabella doesn't count as a "mount" in this scenario ahahaha
Holy shit!!!!!
Warhammer tanks make Nokia phones look like apple products.
You can make something like a trail of grail knights to make cannon ball fly right back on the enemy?
You could use the Mixu Lord mods for more interesting lords for ingame models
SOTEK IS BIASED AGAINST DADDY VLAD NOOO.
I loved this one a bunch. The last was unexpectedly fun.
When is the new one coming out?
Gotrek Gurnisson vs Ungrim Ironfist.
I fucking love these videos keep it up guys. Can we have a Grimgor Ironhide vs Kroq Gar?
Are there any good books abour croq guar out there??
Gotrek vs Arhaon?
Chakax the Eternal Warden vs Deathmaster Snikch would be a fun (and thematic) fight
Settra The Imperishable Vs Kroq-Gar
Also Sigvald Vs Alith Anar
The cow has an off button for his life.
I miss this serie... 🙁 where is episode 5 :)
So... I'm currently running a homebrew warhammer fantasy RPG game. The plot involves a lone waywatcher (the sole survivor of her unit) carrying the heart of Morghur the Shadowgave as far north as possible, to ensure that when it 'resurrects', it'll be as far away from Athel Loren as possible.
As it is, the heart is contained within a brooch made of heavily warded amber, sealed by Ariel's tears, but even so, the corruption bleeds out of it, and I've heavily implied that the brooch will eventually erode, allowing the heart to escape.
In the meantime, the heart is 'calling' to all corrupted beings within the region the party travels through, attracting beastmen that lurk nearby. The way how I have it, if one of the beastmen takes the heart (which has already happened), and opens the brooch (not yet), it will begin to gradually corrupt the beastman's form, twisting it inside out, and gradually causing the form of Morghur to subsume the beastman's previous form, thus bringing about his resurrection.
I humbly ask the glorious loremaster if this whole concept fits well within the lore, as the research I've done doesn't explicitely state how Morghur is resurrected.
I have but one counsel to you, Kroq-Gar against Settra the Imperishable.
Ungrim Ironfist vs Grimgor Ironhide!
Huh. Alarielle probably? Then again, her power is mostly easy to use against Daemons and such. Very specifically. Huh. You know that Unicorns are actually pretty freaky in their actual mythology.
Um. Kroq. I mean, Vladdy can come back, but... uh... eventually he's going to blast that ring, either on purpose or by accident. Then again, Vlad is a vampire... but Kroq is a Saurus. So... he might get digested though, right? Like, if Grimloq swallows him... Oh but I forgot about the wizard thing. Magic might actually tip the scales? Just a bit? I dunno. Probably not though. I just don't see a bloke, even a vampire, getting around the whole giant T-Rex monster thing.
Oh. This is... this is fascinating. Wulfrik vs Lokhir? I'd imagine Wulfrik given he is used to fighting Elves. That being said, it wouldn't exactly surprise me if Lokhir could pull it off. That being said, I'd go for the sword and board over sword and little dagger. Just personally.
The Green Knight? I have no bloody idea. Not only are they both coming back, but... I mean Morghur isn't going to be able to mutate the Green Knight I'd imagine... so... I mean... I dunno. I mean, he isn't going to be able to scare the Green Knight either. So I'm sticking with the Green Knight.
Eh. Gor Rok? Nah, sounds like Taurox wins after the description. Oh. Maybe not. But I don't see how a mace is going to get to that weakness since it is probably too big. Taurox breaks his neck on shield, that would be hilarious. I mean... every action has an equal and opposite reaction. So he is hitting himself with the same force he is hitting the shield with. Especially if he can't budge that shield at all. Oh. So it is a straight up Achilles heel? Yeah, okay then.
Okay. So. What could actually beat any of these Lizardmen characters? Also, I now just kinda want to see more Green Knight. Giles vs Aenarion? No, that might be a bit much.
Where's the rest of theeesseeee
Alith Anar vs Shadowblade
What about the Lady of the Lake vs Sigmar (post death)? Clash of Deities
Vlad vs Mannfred
Red Duke vs Khazrak
Malagor vs Orion
Belegar vs Hellebron
Arkhan vs Teclis
Caradryan vs Kouran Darkhand
Malus vs Louen
Plz, come back!!!!!
Gotrek vs grimgor
Anerion vs settra cause both are super op and they have a lot of OP magic items
Aenarion is hard to use. As aside from his equipment. We don't really know what the blesding of Asuryan really does.
Hell yeah 5 for 5
Question: Did Wulfrik the Wanderer ever get sent to duel a major character, it seems kinda odd that he's constantly sent out to fight obscure fodder, but is never sent to challenge someone like Settra or Fellheart, or Leoncour.
I wouldn't mind seeing some order vs. order fights like Teclis vs. Mazdamundi or Tyrion vs Kroq Gar
Both of those are blatantly unfair to the elves, try something like Karl Franz vs Belegar Ironhammer.
You just wrote a scenario in which not even the greatest of GW plot armor could save those elves.
@@lastdefenderofxhotl Not even the plot weapon of GW could save those elves.
Luthor harken vs Konrad von Carstein seems like interesting matchup between two undead lunatics
Do Kroq Gar vs Grimgor !
Grimnir vs Sigmar, please!
Elector Count Battle Royale!!!
Karl Franz (with or w/o Ghal Maraz, or wielding Dragontooth)
Boris Todbringer
Marius Leitdorf
Adelbrad Ludenhof
Theoderic Gausser
Valmir von Raukov
Wolfram Hertwig
Alberich Haupt-Anderssen
Helmut Feurbach
and
Emmanuelle von Liebwitz
All fight to THE DEATH!!!
Where episode 5 at doe?????
As it should be, both the Lords of Bretonnia and the Children of the Old Ones remain undefeated against their foes.
Lmao wish i had a pc so bad 😿 it's a oof for me
Aenarion vs Grimnir best warriors from their races!!
Lord Krok vs Nagash
Shadowblade vs The Deathmaster
Aenarion with the Widowmaker still gets slaughtered by Grimnir. One's an ancestor god with two axes that by themselves allow two Mortal Dwarfs the ability to outright defeat Gods. Grombrindal would be an interesting fight but only if Aenarion has the Widowmaker. Grimnir basically has two Widowmakers in his axes which is why Gotrek, Thorgrim, and Grombrindal are so fucking powerful because they're all wielding axes of Grimnir.
Kroq gar vs nagash!