@@PaintBoss it is super efficient. I wonder if there’s a way to create the same type of system without using all of the plastic? Honestly if someone could design the same situation using wax cloth or something it would be worth a fortune
Hi Paint Boss, Newbie question, so many different opinions! I have a massive room with high ceilings with a cornice that needs to be sprayed. The ceilings and cornice are white, and the walls are blue. I am thinking that if I spray the walls first, intending to mask the walls to spray the ceiling, the coloured spray will get on the cornice and will be hard to cover. Or will the white paint for the ceiling cover any overspray from the walls? 1. Should I spray the ceiling and cornice first, then mask it before spraying the walls? 2. Spray walls first, having masked the cornice? Many thanks
@paint boss, you mentioned caulking the walls then doing the blue tape to get a clean edge. I’m trying to figure out how this works. Small hole in caulk to keep it tight to the corner I’m guessing you wouldn’t smooth out caulking, and then the blue tape hugs the bottom bead of caulking? Normally I blue tape then caulk. How long do you wait to remove all the tape and plastic. Thanks in advance for reading my questions.
hello Dave, so definitely doesn't have the hang time that southwest builders has, but it's not bad at all. I always lean on the side of caution and I don't build it too heavy. Whites stay up a littler better but the ultra deep bases like to take off, so I do 2 medium coats instead of 2 heavy. I really do love the stuff though! one of my favorite trim paints to use...just a little pricey
According to most airless spray gun manuals you're supposed to hold the gun straight at the wall. You're not supposed to waft. Does it not matter in this case because there is no texture finish and it's all flat? I'm brand new to painting and recently purchased a Graco X5 Magnum. Any information helps!
Hello Daveed, thanks for the question! And welcome to the painting world. Yes, you are right, you always want to try to be and straight on to whatever surface you are spraying, we always do what's called laying off our line when we stop, so you don't get any visible start and stop marks. Kind of like feathering with a brush, same principle. So yes always spray straight in front and then when you move direction or need to stop always train yourself to lay it off. Thanks for the comment 👍 🙏
Can this be with any color celling? Because I have been trying to do this with my company, I am on a solo job and the plastic I am using is Sherwin-Williams 12x400 .31 mil High Density but idk how to set that up by myself, so am I better off using the hand masker? Also what size of masking film did you use?
my favorite new paint channel. Got a question that none of the other channels can answer: Spraying woodworks: in what scenario do you ever paper out the walls? I see videos and sometimes people paper the walls to spray the trim and sometimes they dont. I know its becuase sometimes the trim paint can flash, but how do i know when i should do it?
Hey, thank you so much! I really appreciate you saying that 🙏💪 So when we go into a repaint or new construction job, we always try to shoot the trim first, so we can overspray the walls, saving masking time, and not having to mask twice, as long as you sand down the overspray on the walls, it will turn out great! In a case where the client only wants base and case, we will paper or mask the walls. The only pain is that this requires masking upside down, but we do it all the time. I have learned that it actually saves time in the end to set the line with just some blue tape, and then run a masker with tape and paper to the tape. This gets a better line and actually saves time in the end. We like using 15inch paper, and 2 pieces in the corners. Thanks for the comment 👍🙏
@@PaintBoss 2 questions! 1. if you shoot the trim first, and intend on shooting the walls directly after, how do you manage the masking of the trim? do you run the tape up that tiny little edge on each door & window casing? how about when you've got "boston headers" or other various fancy trim-outs? 2. masking ceilings! when it comes to that first round of tape, how do you achieve a consistent line and still have it not take all figgin day? im also a fan of doing the first round of tape to establish a nice line, and then sending the hand-masker up there to finish it off. but the biggest challenge has been mastering that first round of tape. ive tried that cute little blue roll of tape that comes with the "roll on" dispenser but the proprietary tape they sell for it is garbage and not nearly as thick as i'd like it. honestly though im a big fan from peterborough ontario thanks so much for sharing ive learned a lot watching your channel.
People also paper out walls when spraying lacquers. Putting 3 coats of laquer on a wall in over spray(prime, 2 coat finish) can have you get a build on wall as laquers dry hard. That will make it flash when you go ahead and do walls.
@@johngelfand1298 @Paint Boss I have the same questions! Not sure how to tag paint boss to bring these questions up again, but if you see this, would love to know your thoughts! Thank you - great channel!
Superlative, I do not walk the ladder. I have a step and a long Tent pole, that holds my masker, hi-up on the wall, for when I move my step. And I agree, the very best lines, very fast and a super finish.
One question why when I put blue tape on wall to spray or roll trim when I try to take the frog tape I damage the wall …? And I use a good paint , super paint matte (1-2 days after painted the wall )
@@connorcarlin6056 sorry I don’t understand your question I ask if I have a customer who want to paint just the trim , cabinet etc , and if I put the frog tape on walls when I want to remove it I remove with paint
Hello Terry, so we usually leave that as an option or "upcharge" to the client, but out here no one likes the stipple from rollers on these smooth walls, so usually yes just spray, which definitely makes our touch ups very technical to make go away...We have come up with some ways to do it that look really good, but when there is a patch any bigger that 2-3ft we usually write in the bid to cover the cost of re shooting or rolling corner to corner. I'm originally from California where we back rolled everything, but out here no one does it. The really smooth wall is really sought after out here in these really custom homes, so we have all adapted to make it work 💪 thanks for the comment 👍🙏
So the most common we use is called 3m masking film and it's built to put on a masker so you connect your plastic to your tape, quickly and efficiently!
If I remember correctly, it was neutral ground..😬😬...I think. I will get better about taking a shot of the product and color so I don't rely on my memory😅 Thanks so much for the comment
Yes, agreed! it drives me crazy too, but we have all learned to work around it and we all practice and get in the habit of starting and stopping on our masking to try to minimize. Thanks so much for the comment brother 🙏💪
@@johngelfand1298 oh I didn't catch that! I guess there are two types of extensions. 1) the gun is in your hand and the extension is on the tip of the gun, creates a large volume of fluid between the Tigger and spray tip. Durring Tigger on/off the paint fluid takes longer to reach full pressure and causes splattering. 2) gun is on an extension there isn't larger volume of fluid behind the tip but in front of the trigger. Works just like the normal gun would, perfectly
@@physicsudel2013 if you want to minimize spits try out thr graco cleanshot valves. Basically it replicates a shutoff at the end of your extensions when it detects a drop in pressure, and you can dial it in very nicely and practically eliminate spits. It works so well some people even use it by itself on the gun even when not using an extension.
I know, I agree. They all have real respirators, but some prefer to use just n95 while around latex. I wish everyone would use respirators they are definitely better.
Great job and efficiency
Love the prep work and information. Keep the videos coming
Hey thank you so much Michael 🤝👊💪 I really appreciate the comment 🙏 thanks so much!
This is some professional results , you have an extremely solid crew, thats pretty hard to find. Thank you sharing this with us.
I'm really liking the process you guys have worked out here. Seems extremely efficient.
Thank you so much Alex 👍 we really appreciate it 🙏 Always trying to streamline and this crew just makes it happen!!
@@PaintBoss it is super efficient. I wonder if there’s a way to create the same type of system without using all of the plastic?
Honestly if someone could design the same situation using wax cloth or something it would be worth a fortune
Hey gents, thank you so much, its so cool to learn and get tips. Thank you
Retried from application of protective coatings on industrial, commercial, and residential -- great job ... here. ;-)
Beautiful job guys!
Thank you so much William, we all appreciate it very much 🙏
Excellent!
Great team work👌🏻
Great work
A super team and a brilliant video. Did you guys caulked the blue tape before masking
Wow! Alex is good at doing the ladder walk!
I know right! 💪 That is some amazing talent right there!!! World record time set for masking walls caught on camera. Thank so much for the comment 👍🙏
What paint do you use on the coving is it the same as you do the ceilings, thanks
Hi Paint Boss, Newbie question, so many different opinions! I have a massive room with high ceilings with a cornice that needs to be sprayed. The ceilings and cornice are white, and the walls are blue. I am thinking that if I spray the walls first, intending to mask the walls to spray the ceiling, the coloured spray will get on the cornice and will be hard to cover. Or will the white paint for the ceiling cover any overspray from the walls?
1. Should I spray the ceiling and cornice first, then mask it before spraying the walls?
2. Spray walls first, having masked the cornice?
Many thanks
So when painting ceilings and walls with texture is it better to spray or backroll?
@paint boss, you mentioned caulking the walls then doing the blue tape to get a clean edge. I’m trying to figure out how this works. Small hole in caulk to keep it tight to the corner I’m guessing you wouldn’t smooth out caulking, and then the blue tape hugs the bottom bead of caulking? Normally I blue tape then caulk. How long do you wait to remove all the tape and plastic. Thanks in advance for reading my questions.
Caulking just to fill gap between wall and ceiling. Blue tape is just to hold plastic to protect wall.
Super Awesome!
Thank you so much Joey 👍 we all really appreciate the comment 💪🙏
Great video man, what did Alex shoot that crown with?
Looks good again Boss! How is the vertical sag resistance on the Dunn Edwards Aristoshield?
hello Dave, so definitely doesn't have the hang time that southwest builders has, but it's not bad at all. I always lean on the side of caution and I don't build it too heavy. Whites stay up a littler better but the ultra deep bases like to take off, so I do 2 medium coats instead of 2 heavy. I really do love the stuff though! one of my favorite trim paints to use...just a little pricey
According to most airless spray gun manuals you're supposed to hold the gun straight at the wall. You're not supposed to waft. Does it not matter in this case because there is no texture finish and it's all flat? I'm brand new to painting and recently purchased a Graco X5 Magnum. Any information helps!
Hello Daveed, thanks for the question! And welcome to the painting world. Yes, you are right, you always want to try to be and straight on to whatever surface you are spraying, we always do what's called laying off our line when we stop, so you don't get any visible start and stop marks. Kind of like feathering with a brush, same principle. So yes always spray straight in front and then when you move direction or need to stop always train yourself to lay it off. Thanks for the comment 👍 🙏
Hey man, how do you do pricing on a big project like this?
I’m interested in that pole sprayer set up please expand on the parts that are used. Thank you. Great crew you guys have by the way.
I think he's using something similar to the HYDE 28680 QuickReach Telescoping Spray Pole. I've never used it but it looks interesting
What type of masking did you use that dropped down to covver the walls.... ?
what u do with the over sprayer?
Do you cover the floors?
Can this be with any color celling? Because I have been trying to do this with my company, I am on a solo job and the plastic I am using is Sherwin-Williams 12x400 .31 mil High Density but idk how to set that up by myself, so am I better off using the hand masker?
Also what size of masking film did you use?
my favorite new paint channel. Got a question that none of the other channels can answer: Spraying woodworks: in what scenario do you ever paper out the walls? I see videos and sometimes people paper the walls to spray the trim and sometimes they dont. I know its becuase sometimes the trim paint can flash, but how do i know when i should do it?
Hey, thank you so much! I really appreciate you saying that 🙏💪 So when we go into a repaint or new construction job, we always try to shoot the trim first, so we can overspray the walls, saving masking time, and not having to mask twice, as long as you sand down the overspray on the walls, it will turn out great! In a case where the client only wants base and case, we will paper or mask the walls. The only pain is that this requires masking upside down, but we do it all the time. I have learned that it actually saves time in the end to set the line with just some blue tape, and then run a masker with tape and paper to the tape. This gets a better line and actually saves time in the end. We like using 15inch paper, and 2 pieces in the corners. Thanks for the comment 👍🙏
@@PaintBoss 2 questions!
1. if you shoot the trim first, and intend on shooting the walls directly after, how do you manage the masking of the trim? do you run the tape up that tiny little edge on each door & window casing? how about when you've got "boston headers" or other various fancy trim-outs?
2. masking ceilings! when it comes to that first round of tape, how do you achieve a consistent line and still have it not take all figgin day?
im also a fan of doing the first round of tape to establish a nice line, and then sending the hand-masker up there to finish it off. but the biggest challenge has been mastering that first round of tape. ive tried that cute little blue roll of tape that comes with the "roll on" dispenser but the proprietary tape they sell for it is garbage and not nearly as thick as i'd like it.
honestly though im a big fan from peterborough ontario thanks so much for sharing ive learned a lot watching your channel.
People also paper out walls when spraying lacquers. Putting 3 coats of laquer on a wall in over spray(prime, 2 coat finish) can have you get a build on wall as laquers dry hard. That will make it flash when you go ahead and do walls.
@@johngelfand1298 @Paint Boss I have the same questions! Not sure how to tag paint boss to bring these questions up again, but if you see this, would love to know your thoughts! Thank you - great channel!
What is the name of the device that spreads the masking plastic?
Superlative, I do not walk the ladder. I have a step and a long Tent pole, that holds my masker, hi-up on the wall, for when I move my step. And I agree, the very best lines, very fast and a super finish.
One question why when I put blue tape on wall to spray or roll trim when I try to take the frog tape I damage the wall …? And I use a good paint , super paint matte (1-2 days after painted the wall )
Did you clean your walls before you painted. Or prime?
@@connorcarlin6056 sorry I don’t understand your question
I ask if I have a customer who want to paint just the trim , cabinet etc , and if I put the frog tape on walls when I want to remove it I remove with paint
Is your wall paint sprayed only?
No back roll, how do you touch up later?
Hello Terry, so we usually leave that as an option or "upcharge" to the client, but out here no one likes the stipple from rollers on these smooth walls, so usually yes just spray, which definitely makes our touch ups very technical to make go away...We have come up with some ways to do it that look really good, but when there is a patch any bigger that 2-3ft we usually write in the bid to cover the cost of re shooting or rolling corner to corner. I'm originally from California where we back rolled everything, but out here no one does it. The really smooth wall is really sought after out here in these really custom homes, so we have all adapted to make it work 💪 thanks for the comment 👍🙏
@@PaintBoss smooth walls? Tought i heard you say a light texture in the video. Smooth walls its a level 4 and up, drywall. I thought?
Oh wow, so much plastic waste!😮😢
Do you at least recycle? 🫣 surprise you don’t need a permit for all that plastic!😂
Nice to see you using La rasa.
So you only run one coat of spray on the ceiling? What about walls? One coat also?
Same question for me, but I run 2 coats, especially during new construction.
What is the 3M masking you are using?
So the most common we use is called 3m masking film and it's built to put on a masker so you connect your plastic to your tape, quickly and efficiently!
Cracking 100% CHEERS
Thank you! Cheers 👊👍💪🤝
What paint color is that on the walls?
If I remember correctly, it was neutral ground..😬😬...I think. I will get better about taking a shot of the product and color so I don't rely on my memory😅 Thanks so much for the comment
@@PaintBoss Neutral Ground or Natural Tan? Looks more like Natural tan but if it's Neutral Ground that is the color we are going with.
OSHA has a class for ladder walking 😆 🤣.
I alway get a ton of splatter out of the on start and stops when using extensions
Yes, agreed! it drives me crazy too, but we have all learned to work around it and we all practice and get in the habit of starting and stopping on our masking to try to minimize. Thanks so much for the comment brother 🙏💪
what difference does it make if the gun is attached to an extension pole vs. it being in your hand? genuinely curious.
@@johngelfand1298 oh I didn't catch that! I guess there are two types of extensions. 1) the gun is in your hand and the extension is on the tip of the gun, creates a large volume of fluid between the Tigger and spray tip. Durring Tigger on/off the paint fluid takes longer to reach full pressure and causes splattering. 2) gun is on an extension there isn't larger volume of fluid behind the tip but in front of the trigger. Works just like the normal gun would, perfectly
@@physicsudel2013 if you want to minimize spits try out thr graco cleanshot valves. Basically it replicates a shutoff at the end of your extensions when it detects a drop in pressure, and you can dial it in very nicely and practically eliminate spits. It works so well some people even use it by itself on the gun even when not using an extension.
ooohh, awesome alex, I really appreciate that brother 🙏 I will definitely try one out. Good looking out 👊
What your ig handle?
Sad to see guy spraying with that mask 😷! Protect your workers lungs 🫁 with the right mask.
I know, I agree. They all have real respirators, but some prefer to use just n95 while around latex. I wish everyone would use respirators they are definitely better.